FTX Outlaw Custom Rear Anti Role Bar Assembly & Fitment
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Earlier this year I fitted a custom rear anti role bar. I've been asked by a lot of people about this so thought I'd share with you how to make and fit your own Sway Bar / Anti Role Bar.
Fantastic - Great video [Craggle RC]...Yes what a wonderful cure for the twisting when accelerating issue. Completed this with your advice just using a coat hanger (free upgrade) that is already plastic coated - 3mm also like most of them. No more twisting at all and now sorts out the problem a great solution and a great video for the explanation. :) big thumbs up for posting this Craggle RC.
Ha! A coat hanger... I never thought of that! Lol well done! Yes it’s worked a treat, totally changed the way it drives now, you can actually drive it hard as intended without losing traction rendering it just rear wheel drive.
Hi Kevin - I noticed you changed the wheels from the originals - Can you please post a link ? :)
They were bought through eBay, I searched for 2.2" beadlock aluminium wheels, they're a bit more pricey nowadays though unfortunately..
I was hesitant to buy myself one, now I know what I'm going to do 👍👍
The mod works well, no more loss of drive to the front axle.
Clever I be upgrading my Torro.Thanks
Great idea...have some stuff coming for my rock racer
Thanks Andy, it’s worked out really well, no “3WD” anymore, all 4 wheels planted, and yet it still has flexible rear suspension as before.
Thanks for posting, I will give it a go, but I have spent so much on upgrades and repairs for the FTX Outlaw, I'm thinking of calling it a day and buying an Arrma kryton 6s v4. £460.00
@Andy Fletcher Andy, I have spend a shed load on these I own three and I'm in to them for around £1200, anyway I've just bought the Arrma kraton 6s v4, so I'll see how that goes. I've got some cheeky upgrades that have been recommended by fellow UA-cam's 😉
hello, where did you buy the materials for the back? Thank you
Hi I’m a complete beginner in RC cars and I am planning on getting the Outlaw as my first RC but I did notice on other videos how the front right wheel kept lifting up and this was bugging me but couldn’t find any videos on why it did it or how to fix it, so thank you your video was very helpful.
Would like to see a video of your sway bar in action.
Hi Adrian thanks for your comment! Have a look at my other videos, you'll see a few development videos I've done of the Outlaw, one called "Speed Trial 4" shows how well the anti role bar keeps those 4 wheels on the ground.
Craggle RC Hi just watched the speed test video the sway bar works well. So as I say I’m a complete beginner in the rc world so where do I get the metal bar from and the other parts you got? Thanks
eBay's your best bet for it all to be honest. Search for 2.8mm or 3mm stainless rod for models, and I used a Kyosho Inferno sway bar kit (that's a 1/8 Rallycross buggy), I couldn't find any kits in the uk so had to order from the US, but was at my house in less than a week. Hope that helps matey!
Craggle RC that’s great thank you I’ll let you know how I get on.
That's great I'll be interested to see how you get on too!
That is exactly what i was looking for - Thanks a lot for sharing!! Do you think it is possible to use a threaded rod for this?
Hi, yes I don’t see why not so long as it’s not too flimsy. By adding the bar it’s completely resolved the 3WD issue by helping to keep all 4 wheels on the ground for the best possible traction.
@@cramalnig Thanks for the quick response! I asked because I constructed a new sway bar mount (the part that brakes the chassis in a Crash, I hope you know what I mean 😁) and 3D printed it. And now I'm curious if a threated rod rubs the printed mount apart.
With it being an abrasive face compared to a smooth bar then I suppose the new part would wear quicker, but nonetheless it’d still work well. Nice one!
@@cramalnig I just found out something very interesting - the original anti roll bar on my truck didn't work. It was wiggly and didn't compensate the torsion of the axle. But I just found a way to make it work: On the top part, (the part that is attached to the rod) there are two threaded holes which fit an M3 Screw. By adding these four Screws the anti roll bar becomes useful - well okay we will see how effective this is but ...hey. :D It seems that they just forgot to add these Screws in the Factory!
Great video! I teally want to do this mod but Im struggling to find a swaybar kit to use for the donor parts....any links??
thanks heaps!
Russ HP I’ve just been searching and there doesn’t seem to be any in the UK. I searched for “Kyosho Inferno MP9 sway bar kit”, there’s a few in the states or on eBay. Hope that helps!
Quick question could you not have placed the swaybar throught the next hole down on the arm link so it makes it easy to remove the uppet arm link or is there a problem doing it this way?
My Outlaw is turning up tomorrow and this will be the first thing i mod.
Love you videos on this car.
Hi, thanks for the question and taking a look! I looked at so many positional options to fit it, using the lower hole would result in the role bar running against the rear prop shaft, using the higher one gives it better clearance and it kills two birds with one stone as it supports the rear link arms at the same time. Mine has touched the prop shaft very slightly but that’s on extreme suspension movement. Easily cured by raising the rear end on the shock towers. Keep me posted on how you get on with it! Is yours the brushless version?
Craggle RC no standard brushed for now but brushless when funds allow.
found out why back end spinning out only rear wheel drive so some things broke or loose
Hello again, yes sounds like somethings come adrift there. The custom rear sway bar will keep the wheels true, both my Outlaws don’t veer off to a side now, they accelerate straight and true and don’t lift that front right wheels anymore.
When the car is off the ground and you accelerate, is any drive going to the front axles at all (wheels spin fairly slow, one more so than the other perhaps)? If so, check the drive cups on either side of the front diff, as you rotate the stub axles out to each wheel hub you’ll see a small grub screw for an Allen key, one of those maybe loose.
Or, are just the rear axles spinning and front wheels remain stationary? If so, then the plastic drive inside on the spur gear is chewed and the metal dog bone (front prop shaft) has wore it away. Let me know!
hi it was the grub screw that came loose front centre diff its got 4 wheel drive now i had to put a sixth hole on my swing arm as mine did not have one did not make a good job of it mine is still lifting the wheel also the other wheel but now then it slides the back end out to the side but thats because its like having a 2 wheel drive to much power to the back whheels my links are as forward as i can get them is that why its still lifting also my bar that i used is off a cooker shelf rack im not shore if its rigid enough im going to put up a video soon thanks for all your help would it help if i stiffened up the rear shocks
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Hi mate, I'd like to do this but i don't want to ruin its off road capabilities? Does the suspension still travel as much? Thanks mate. I've ordered that metal drive shaft by the way so thanks for the reply :)
Mine still goes very well off-road, it travels much better with speed, doesn’t lift that front right hand wheel anymore so there’s all 4 wheels giving traction. Peace of mind with the steel shaft, who knows when or if the plastic shaft would’ve worn.
@@cramalnig I'll need the steel shaft! I haven't even had a go of it yet and I've put a 64t steel spur and pinion in (nightmare) 4300kv motor 80 amp esc on 3s and 60k diff oil. Its still brand new! Haha
Crikey! That’ll have some top end speed, mine was crazy enough on 3S, 3800kv, and 23t pinion.
@@cramalnig I know! Oh and alloy wheel hex's. Its more of a Crawler/ultra 4 racer really that's why I put the diff oil in. Can't wait to have a go of it! Thanks for the videos :)
I believe you can buy diff locks for it to make into an RC crawler, cheap too!
Great vid, Just brought my 1st RC and went with the OutLaw - complete novice so looking for advise on doing this mod. Ive looked online for the bits but no joy so has anyone else done this and can point me to what bits to buy ? its getting the right sway bar kit I'm struggling with .
running on a 3000MAh battery and i get a lot of tyre lift from the get go .
Paul SatMan Thanks for taking a look! Yes I’ve looked at it seems the kit is only available in the US. I’m sure there are other 1/8 rallycross buggy sway bar kits available. It’s the little link arms which you’d need, unless you can make some up yourself from rose joints and a short piece of stud bar..?!
How long does the steel rod need to be? Around 300mm?
Hi Tony, yes sorry I didn't put that down in the description. The rods I bought came in 300mm lengths, just trim to suit then when it's fitted. You can see the tails of the rod sticking out behind the little link arms on my Outlaw. All it needs is those cutting off.
Hi, I've noticed that you have the metal upper and lower sway bar pull rods and need to do the same but can't find a way to remove the "Sway Bar Upper Pull Rod" from the "Sway Bar Rod". I've tried spinning it to unscrew it and pulling it off but nothing works...
Dean Chapman on the plastic fitting at the top you’ll see a little round hole, in there should be a small grub screw, I think they’re 1.5mm perhaps, there’s one on each side! Hope that helps!
@@cramalnig Ah that's it! Thanks for the help and the quick reply!
hi done your mod but now steps to the right on take off not got a 6th hole just a gap os solid plastic and a piece in the midle so put on 5th hole frome shock end do you tighten the ball end on the swing arm all the way tight
Hi Kevin, all the parts should be tight yes, and the ball and rose joints should be free to move around and undulate for the suspension travel. So your Outlaw doesn’t have a series of holes running along the trailing arms?
yes there is holes but no hole in the middle hole number six .starting right from shock mounting hole theres 10 holes mines in number 5 then theres a bigish space then 5 more holes ive only got movement will post vid on my chanel
looks like you have eleven holes ive only 10 but were your eleven are ive a piece of plastic running through as a cross beam in side looks like to strengthen it up a bit think i should just drill a hole
they move at rose joint but not 360 degrees just forward back
my shocks have been move at top to less of an angle vertical almost stiffer now could that also have somthing to do with it
ive got the bugsta wheels on mine
the bottom rose joint is it supposed to move or not mine moves
Hi Kevin yes it needs to pivot. The actual “ball” of the rose joint remains stationary and the surrounding rose pivots around the ball as the suspension moves up n down, same with the upper rose joint on the custom sway bar.
Ok thanks
How did it affect the articulation of the rear axle?
When it's running I can see very little difference to be honest in how the axle behaves, the way it bends on various gradients over rocks etc with the weight of the car and speeds it has when covering rough ground the suspension still travels freely on either side at a time. Having the bar fitted has helped to bring the car down so it's more planted. I found the car is now a lot more direct and doesn't wander so much as it did before.
hi ive lots of movement on my car will put up a video of it on my chanel could you tell me why please
Hi Kev, I looked but couldn’t see your new video. Play could be coming from any hinge point on the car, steering play is it? Check the following:
All wheels are tightly held on
Hex drives (behind the wheels) aren’t worn, are they plastic or Ali?
Rear trailing arms aren’t snapped which makes the rear axle twist around a bit, making the car veer off
Front suspension arms - screws aren’t loose
Any snapped components on the suspension front and rear.
Is the servo alright or does it click when “steering”?
Are the tyres still adhered to their wheels?
Craggle RC I’ve not put it up yet I’ve had to look after my 4 kids but will do later.
Can u pls help me with the stabilizers..., i cant find them, i live in europe, i can find a 3mm bar but i cant find the other pieces neccesary to finish it pls help me
Hi, I had to buy them through eBay from a model shop from the USA. I’ll try find the link to the parts again and post it up for you. Thanks for taking a look! It’s worked wonders for the Outlaw.
Kyosho inferno mp9 tki4 has 2,5 rear sway bar and even in dollarhobbyz I cant find set of 3mm. You used 3mm or 2,5m?
@@tivi6732 did you find it out mate I'm also having trouble finding 3mm ones?
Made and fitted a removable anti roll bar and tested it out today, no wheel lift at all. I posted some photos here www.msuk-forum.co.uk/forums/topic/220899-ftx-outlaw-owners/ plus another mod.
Many thanks for the inspiration.
Hi, yes I saw on the forum earlier today! (I'm t2boats) glad it worked for you aswell, the difference is staggering isn't it. And I like the removable method you came up with too, nifty! When first making mine I thought about ways to remove the bar to carry out maintenance, for replacing broken parts in that area, but I just thought - as sod it, I bought a whole bunch of bars so I'll just bend another one, only takes a moment.
still wheel sight up also
Gem
Hi im guessing its total destruction of the sway bar to disassemble?
If it needs to be removed for replacement of other parts then just disconnect the the little link arm and straighten out one side as best you can and slide it out. To perhaps make things easier I was originally looking for some sort of half moon clamp arrangement to attach it to the car but couldn't find anything suitable. I think it would be quicker though to straighten a rod & slide out than unscrew 4 small fiddly screws on two half moon clamps with what I had in mind. Then again, how many times could the rod be straightened out and bent again before it snaps? I'd just fit another new rod then seen as several came in 1 pack.
ftx forum soved it by cable clamp
2 part rods cable clamp
@@kevinbosworth3 do you have a link to the page? Thanks
up your volume pls :D
hi ive now put up a video on my channel so you can see the problem i have
Kevin Bosworth I’ll take a look!