I love that you're talking about this, thanks! I agree that it's really hard to get people to listen to any ideas outside of their religion or belief system. Because it's often indoctrinated as part of their identity, they risk ego death. Their brain resists it. Most faiths discourage seeking outside info. Also, I think there's a lot of truth to this quote: "If you try to tell someone else what to feel, think, or believe, you've lost internal boundaries." - Kenny Weiss
There is one central question to ask oneself in all religions and Humanist isms to. It is Martin Luther Kings "Critical Question. "What am I doing for others"
Thank you so much for sharing ☺ I think it's important for us to ask what we are doing for others. But I don't think this should be at the expense of asking what we are doing for our Self. Western religion and thought often presses looking at what we are doing for everyone else or anyone else versus taking care of our Self first If we don't take care of our Self, we can be of very little help or value to anyone else. I think eastern thought, religion and philosophy may capture this better at times This doesn't take away at all from your central point of humanism and the fact that loving-kindness radiating out from us to community around us makes the world the place we would want it to be
It’s nice to be able to look around the world and across time and appreciate great human thought. Once we get beyond dogma and all of those rules and manmade touch points….most of us really are saying very similar things 🧖♀️💗🧘♀️
ok. here goes. i think faith and experience are as different as the menu and the meal, or the map and the territory.. spirituality is a personal journey and one that has led me the conclusion that everything is essentially made of consciousness. this consciousness is one "thing" and we all all localised parts of this holistically consciousness field. As such there are no objects as a materialist would think of them. time and space are also constructs of consciousness. even though this may seem an insane perspective from a western academic rationalist point of view it does seem to contain a measure of truth. i d love to know what other think of this. bright blessings. M
Great comment!! I tend to agree with your fundamental premise on consciousness and reality. For me I believe in the collective consciousness being this shared reality we all walk through every day. I also believe our individual consciousness creates our own individual consciousness bubble that then bumps into all the other bubbles of beings in the universe to create that collective. But then I also believe we are all one universal pantheistic whole and that is collective in and off itself I think quantum physics may agree with you more than you think. If you haven’t read it, I def recommend Max Plank’s ‘The Philosophy of Physics’. He also has an amazing quote outside of that work that relates to our discussion here: "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
Separating dogma from religious experience may be helpful in some cases but usually it is not. Dogma, the Apostle’s Creed for instance, sets certain boundaries and provides direction. Dogma, is always something that has been established carefully by many people over the centuries. We dismiss dogma at our own peril. What if my spiritual experience directs me to seriously hurt someone? All religious dogma would say, “Don’t listen to that.”
It’s true that people have always used religious arguments to justify evil doing. In Christianity, evil works are always contradictory to established dogma or doctrine. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water
I love that you're talking about this, thanks! I agree that it's really hard to get people to listen to any ideas outside of their religion or belief system. Because it's often indoctrinated as part of their identity, they risk ego death. Their brain resists it. Most faiths discourage seeking outside info. Also, I think there's a lot of truth to this quote: "If you try to tell someone else what to feel, think, or believe, you've lost internal boundaries." - Kenny Weiss
Def agree with all of that 🙏
Be open minded has been prob the most important part of my life
Love 💗 that quote!!!
Amazing and thoughtful video. Great job, mate! Hope you'll reach wide audience soon
We def appreciate the kind words and try and put out the best video we can. James is such an amazing person and subject!
There is one central question to ask oneself in all religions and Humanist isms to. It is Martin Luther Kings "Critical Question. "What am I doing for others"
Thank you so much for sharing ☺
I think it's important for us to ask what we are doing for others. But I don't think this should be at the expense of asking what we are doing for our Self. Western religion and thought often presses looking at what we are doing for everyone else or anyone else versus taking care of our Self first
If we don't take care of our Self, we can be of very little help or value to anyone else. I think eastern thought, religion and philosophy may capture this better at times
This doesn't take away at all from your central point of humanism and the fact that loving-kindness radiating out from us to community around us makes the world the place we would want it to be
Omnists believe that there's a bit of truth in almost every religion. I love studying all religions...
It’s nice to be able to look around the world and across time and appreciate great human thought. Once we get beyond dogma and all of those rules and manmade touch points….most of us really are saying very similar things 🧖♀️💗🧘♀️
ok. here goes. i think faith and experience are as different as the menu and the meal, or the map and the territory.. spirituality is a personal journey and one that has led me the conclusion that everything is essentially made of consciousness. this consciousness is one "thing" and we all all localised parts of this holistically consciousness field. As such there are no objects as a materialist would think of them. time and space are also constructs of consciousness. even though this may seem an insane perspective from a western academic rationalist point of view it does seem to contain a measure of truth. i d love to know what other think of this. bright blessings. M
Great comment!!
I tend to agree with your fundamental premise on consciousness and reality. For me I believe in the collective consciousness being this shared reality we all walk through every day. I also believe our individual consciousness creates our own individual consciousness bubble that then bumps into all the other bubbles of beings in the universe to create that collective. But then I also believe we are all one universal pantheistic whole and that is collective in and off itself
I think quantum physics may agree with you more than you think. If you haven’t read it, I def recommend Max Plank’s ‘The Philosophy of Physics’. He also has an amazing quote outside of that work that relates to our discussion here:
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
Separating dogma from religious experience may be helpful in some cases but usually it is not. Dogma, the Apostle’s Creed for instance, sets certain boundaries and provides direction. Dogma, is always something that has been established carefully by many people over the centuries. We dismiss dogma at our own peril. What if my spiritual experience directs me to seriously hurt someone? All religious dogma would say, “Don’t listen to that.”
It’s true that people have always used religious arguments to justify evil doing. In Christianity, evil works are always contradictory to established dogma or doctrine. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water