Elaine Brown and Kwame Ture Interview (1993)
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Former Black Panthers Elaine Brown and Kwame Ture, formerly known as Stokely Carmichael, discuss the ideological principles of the Black Panthers that remain relevant today.
Credit To: Charlie Rose
“Next up the Israeli ambassador to the United States…” lmao. This colonizer couldn’t have ended this interview more appropriately
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lmfaoooo the ending "next up: convo w the israeli ambassador and sorkin" what a wild transition
haha that was wild.
@@tmsphere That was low ball, calculated maneuver, typical white washing by this liberal groping sexual harasser.
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One thing I've always loved about Kwame Ture throughout his lifetime of action, is his laughter and joy. How he can be talking of very serious matters, crack a joke with a big smile then keep it moving with his message like at 5:39. I feel this aspect of him, his playfulness and ability to relate with those he communes with, was a major part of him being so successful and well-respected among his peers.
Elaine Brown "a taste of power"
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You are so right ....such a wonderful spirit Our Creator sent us...
I read her book, A Taste Of Power when I was in prison 15 years ago. It made me thirsty for more knowledge…That shit changed my life !
Wow 👏
Right On✊🏾
Hell yeah!
I just purchased the audiobook.
11:47 Rose: "But you wouldn't advocate that, would you?" Kwame: "Why not? *smile*"
I love it
2:40 "I am a woman" ?
Always blessed to see new footage of Ancestor Kwame speaking. Also the interviewer was giving off cop vibes at the start asking where all the previous Panthers were.
Nah, he just didn't do his homework for the interview.
he's DEAD though, bwhahahahaaaaaaaaaa RIP WILLIAM LUTHER PIERCE
9:15 Comrade Elaine Brown knocks it out the park here, I love it. Handling the willfully obtuse Rose quickly trying to switch subjects constantly. Seeing these two so incredibly wise and enlightening and brilliant fills me up with inspiration.
God, Rose was so annoying. Brown and Ture are still very relevant, but to deal with the seemingly willful ignorance of Rose, who also attempts to derail the conversation multiple times, was so frustrating to watch. I really loved what Brown had to say. Thank you for finding this!
Oh, my gosh. Rise as the avatar of boogie liberals is perfect. His tone drop to that ugly parental intonation while talking about Malcolm X movie and Spike's "research" was so incredibly insulting. How can these fantastic people remain outwardly patient. I'm so impressed with them, their teaching even in the face of this man's simping for the capitalist elites, and continuing to speak out on the truth
You're really touchy.
I like the description "seemingly willful ignorance", but for me it's more the tactics of cajolery and faux-empathy ("I agree with you but look how much 'progress' has been made. Don't you like that?") of someone playing good cop before they offer the plea or ask you to confess. The battery and brutality through civility to get the maverick to finally conform and concede to the group.
Also, have you seen his interview of David Foster Wallace? Wallace is aware and evidences throughout that just having (publisher's publicity requirements) to be interviewed by that man is excruciating torture.
He's not ignorant -he's an arrogant white man!
Kwame Ture is raising consciousness here concerning power.
It is true, it is not enough to have black faces in high places; not without the mass movement and organization of the people.
Rose deliberately cuts off the flow of discussion IMMEDIATELY every time Kwame Ture hits the nail on the head about power, Malcom X, and criticism about military funding. Probably the most egregious display of persistent and willful ignorance of truths and facts from a host I've seen. As hard as this is to watch at times, it is eye-opening and I wish I was exposed to this type of content back in high school.
“They give us visibility but no power” the great Kwame Ture. Charlie Ross can’t engage this type of conversation, he doesn’t have the grasped of where these warriors are coming from.
Ever consistent Revolutionary Kwame Ture. Long may His Noble Spirit Live.
Baba Kwame Ture and Mama Elaine Brown are two of our great African politically self conscious leaders for freedom justice and equality.
Charlie Rose is an insufferable, rapid-fire, nay-saying, non-hearing, unknowing, uncaring nincompoop. What a tragedy it is to have to hear these two greats filtered by his idiocy.
Regardless, thank you so much for uploading!
I agree 💯
A taste of power is one of the most AMAZING books EVER. What a brilliant writer.
Surprised to see these two heroes on Charlie Rose. Unsurprised how stupid Rose can be with anyone who professes a leftist politic - and that can be Elaine or Kwame right up to someone like Gore Vidal who only espouses left rhetoric and did nothing. He had Noam Chomsky on once, and strategically wouldn't let the man speak! God forbid a coherent idea get out. "No is asking for 100% cut in the defense budget" - He harped on that strawman and dragged in Thurgood Marshall??
But I love me some Kwame Ture and Elaine Brown.
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Elaine brown aint no hero, she was a sellout undercover agent smh 🤦🏿♂️
@@kinderlokker0306 I think most of these people have been accused of being undercover agents or informants. It's a COINTELPRO tactic that seems to work by keeping us suspicious of everyone in the room
Kwame ture met my grand father and held my father that's so crazy
Charlie Rose definitely got bullied daily as a kid.
Charlie Rose way out his range trying to tell Kwame Ture what Dr. King would have agreed with. Dr. King was anti-military, and Ture--who worked with King--knew that full well.
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“ they give us visibility but no power” - very relevant
I'm always amazed at how much poise Elaine has...
Props to Elaine and Kwame,respect always
Salute to our Honorable Elders Sister Elaine Brown and Brother Kwame Ture (Better Known as Brother Stokley Carmichael) ASE'
I met his 2 stones in Africa they introduced them to me I didn’t know he married an African woman after makeba
JAH lives
UA-cam algorithm on fire today. Glad i found this video.
Two of our greatest revolutionaries!
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5:05 1992 forword
J. Edgar Hoover SMH
This guy was like the white American version of Leopold 2.
I’m watching this as I was born after this interview an even 30 years later their points and purpose is still relevant today. America must pay #cutthecheck
you cant learn anything from the movie but the movie can make you learn something about malcom
Kwame Ture: Was Indeed Correct about The Honorable Iman El-Haji Malik El-Shabazz (Better known as Brother Malcolm X)
Unfortunately KT didn't get to finish his answer regarding what Spike Lee didn't know in order to make a proper movie on El Hajj Malik El-Shabazz. But with any bio, the more we know, the less we're going to like the movie. Movies are a poor medium for life stories.
@@mharm1017 few of kwame friend and comrade also hated the movie mike like bob brown and mukasa dada
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🌟 "BLACK POWER." 🌟
Yo ... that transition at the end was a doozie
wow i rlly enjoyed this i wish this was longer
Thank you for the upload.
Charlie Rose-- if you ever want to get to the surface of things, he'll help. No ugly details or deeper issues necessary. Just TV-ready interviews.
Kwame & Elaine are so great, if Kwame wouldve been alive today he'd be doing the lefty podcast circuit, what a shame.
This is like watching a Vlad interview lol.
Lol!
EXACTLY
They all read from the same script.
Why are people calling Sister Brown a sellout and a double-agent? Her book changed my life.
thoughts:
I’m enchanted by kwame Tou’re
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why did he ask her questions just to cut her off 😵💫
I'm astonished at how little Charlie Rose knows about either of their books/histories, and as a result he asks questions that really don't get to the heart of what these two revolutionaries were about. Asking Kwame Ture if he saw the Malcolm X movie....Really!!?? Why would Kwame Ture need to see a reconstructed watered down version of Malcolm's life (not that Spike didn't do a good job, and that it won't inspire younger viewers) when kwame was alive and in the thick of the struggle at that time!!? Also Charlie has a rude habit of cutting people off before they're able to complete their answer to the question. Mr. Ture speaks about how he has read several religious books cover to cover, and Rose questions him as if he doesn't believe him....As excited as I was to see these two together, I was disappointed in Charlie Roses line of questioning...Thank you as always though for your wonderful channel.
The originator of Black Power.
ICONIC ✊✊✊
Beautiful Sista.... Gorgeous, Educated & Bout that life
Much gratitude
Heroes and Legends
great post thanks
This interview has not age nearly as well as I thought it would after 30 years.
There is no solution coming from the United States of America..Pan Afrikanism is the best solution for the improvement, advancement, and our ultimate elevation of "Our Afro Diaspora" Economically, Politically, Judicially, Public Affairs & Communications, Educational, and Health & Wellness.
This is what the white social structure understood/stands very deeply. Black revolutionaries, be they Toure and Brown here or Malcolm or Martin, struck fear in the hearts of the white nationalist neoliberal project. It knew that linking Africans of the diaspora internationally through economic and political solidarity would render the colonizing capitalist system weak and perhaps eventually obsolete. It did not want Africans- be they in the US, Haiti, Jamaica, England, or the African continent- drawn to a movement of unity that was bigger than identity within the individual nation state. These people had to be eliminated.
Beyond this, they had the power to potentially unite the underclass of all colors and THIS was really what needed to be crushed.
It’s getting rough, out here in these streets.
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Blacks, don’t associate with being African 🤦🏾♀️
Love this interview and the Panthers! They worked to eradicate the wealth disparities for Afro Americans which is the bottom line and was a threat to this gubment. As well as the right to bear arms and defend ourselves.
I saw Elaine speak at an event for black women in Sacramento about 6 years ago and she was as fiery as she is in this interview. She is still consistent with principles the BPP was built on before it was dismantled by the gubment and some of the members. I’m proud of Kwame, Elaine and all the BPP who gave their lives and time for Afro Americans. Proud of Malcolm too but not the NOI.
I wish AA had their mindset to unite on a nationwide scale for upward mobility/reparations but that has yet to happen. I’ve thought about relocating to Africa or somewhere else for that reason. What is happening though, is AA are switching from the slave master democrat party to the Republican Party and that’s a start.
The Panthers are the reason California lawmakers outlawed gun rights in California. They practiced the right to bear arms and defend ourselves. The gov started a shootout with them in the capital Sacramento years ago and used that as an excuse to remove Californians right to defend ourselves. As far as I’m concerned, the Black Panther Party’s revolution will always be alive!
They deserved a better interviewer honestly.
Elaine Brown states that Clinton was better than Bush (1) but that is ahistorical and just wrong. All US presidents get worse and worse (since 1865) because of the fact of capitalism imperialism with the exception of Franklin Roosevelt. And he was only "better" in the sense that the conditions of depression with the example of the successes of the USSR forced him into the New Deal. However...immediatly after his death it too began to defacto unravel due to the domination of the military industrial complex suckng wealth from the nation and those programs fullfilment. Kennedy was about to call into question the domination of the MIC and the Dulles brothers killed him for it.
This interview may have been done before Clintons worse crimes like the expansion of Blacks in prison and Nafta.....my guess is that if she is still alive she would agree with me. Biden will be worse than Trump....already he is threatening China, Whipping Black refugees on the border, increasing blockades on Cuba Venezuela etc and increasing military budgets....the man in the white house does not change the motion of history under capitalism during its death throes.
Elaine was seriously a revisionist, who disarmed the BPP in Oakland and cooled the revolutionary fervor.
You are exactly right. All six living POTUS should be hog-tied and frog-marched to the nearest jet then immediately flown to the Hague to be tried for their war crimes.
@@Hardcore_Ant ...Indeed. She admits in her book," A Taste of Power," that she was one of the sisters who convinced Huey, just released from the Shadows(ca1970), not to attack the White House at The People's Revolutionary Constitutional Convention in DC. There were thousands of us there, armed to the teeth, just waiting for the Minister of Defense to give the order.
I believe this interview was late 1992 or early 1993. Clinton had not yet shown his darkside.
@@SouthDFWrep 1994 Crime Bill
thank you !
cool to see my neighbor elaine speaking.
Wonder what Kwame would say about today.
"B l a c K P o w e r"
Im surprised Charlie was able to get his bosses to let this interview happen.
Right on!
The man who read (only) the forward of Kwame Ture's book seems amazed that Mr. Ture is saying that to know a person intimately is to study them and the forces that have impacted their life. The way my father, Augustine Morris, speaks about Brother Malcolm, it is clear to me that he did not just watch Spike Lee's movie.
There is no great power like the Power of God."
12:04 now that’s the real yt man 😁
is this the full version? looks like she got cut off at the end?
Does anyone know where I can find where Stokely had a debate with the hippies? Been looking for it for years
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A discussion that continues to be relevant and this interviewer was totally unqualified to interview these two intellectual giants.
Did the acclaimed journalist say he read the forward to Mr. Ture's book? Did he say that like it was something noteworthy?
It is incredibly important to listen and learn from this particular scenario into the concept of history in this country and nation ask how we as people will make a difference between doing the right things to make sure we will learn how to build a good environment in our society to live together as humans beings and not like humans that are specifically so naturally nasty and narrow minded of the psychological aspect of the past because they don't want to live like people who have good sense and today's day amen
Also very short time given to these guest who required several shows to cover their depth.
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Why would he ask a question 2 seconds before ending the interview..?
Does she mention 🤔 she was a(n) FBI INFORMANT???
The irony. Wow the WS talking points have not changed in over 20yrs. Listening to these to important soldiers in 2022 and nothing has changed . My God
Kwame is a born Trinidadian. The govt at that time damn near exiled him.
Kwame he looks like my dad omg 🤣
I read the Book
... throughout the Community....
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Charlie Rose owned!!!!!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
dodged the question.. but they explained it
7:10 🎉🎉🎉
...... this guy is asking some pretty messed up questions. It's almost like he's got a bone to pick with them, and a lot of these questions are so fast-paced that it really sounds like an interrogation more than an interview. that's totally freaking suspicious.
He was super rude to her. The whole interview
I had to give this a thumbs down only because Rose wastes time asking stupid questions and interupting. Brown and Toure are giants!!!
I dont agree with Brother Kwame & Sister Brown on much, however they were genuine, brilliant and had integrity. They were genuine revolutionaries.
they keep deleting this. give thanks
Got’em😂 8:59
Shh was a very beautiful young lady back in dah daze.
Is shh from Harlem, plzzz.
Damn, Thats Crazy Thats My Mamas Whole Name
Eye Nerves
Kwame ture is like Igor Müller
Even when you elect them as President of the country, they still say they have no power...!!!
Alcalde de San Kwame Ture
was elaine brown a fed?
cathleen cleaver is lying.
@@tmsphere Sis CC is not the only former BPP member who has outed EB for working with our enemies. I have heard it from a number of separate sources. Plus interviews included in the best documentary on the Party, "All Power to the People," by former Panther and one of the 9 Asians in the Party, Lee-Lew Lee, state the same.
I thought it said Kwame brown lmao
As if seeing Spike Lee's Malcolm X is a must for two of his most devoted contemporary Black revolutionaries...Charles Rose, please. His misstep should have been immediately recognized when Ture responded about what he thought of *the man* Malcolm X, while Rose thought of the movie. If the topic was Christianity, for example, would you expect two lifelong Sunday church worshippers to run, not walk, to watch a 2 hour movie about Jesus Christ?
hearing the name of sorken really make me mad.
Elaine Brown, agent Provocateur
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; -HOLY BIBLE
He read the "foreword" not the book! SMH!
Never liked Charlie - but was unavoidable but to watch