Saw Wilt being interviewed by the sideline and baseline. He took and made three hook shots in a row, all from three point land while not looking at basket. Take that Kareem!!
actaully 4 in a row, the team mate said "this is the one i am talking about for 5 dolalas wilt made the 4th and the guy looked stunned. but to take this further. Tommy heingesoon quoted as saying he once saw wilt made 20 out of 25 free throws/baskets from half court. t doesn't matter of it is practice or not either that is some real skill.
16:43 watch it in slow motion, a glimpse of what Wilt would have done in the 90s etc, people dismiss that block as a goal tending but watch how far forwards he jumps to get to the ball before it drops down.
In have Wilt in my top 3 behind MJ and Kobe. I would never have a problem with people calling Wilt the goat, because the stories about Wilt are insane. I think Wilt is the greatest athlete ever and the greatest Center (by far). I don‘t think any Center in history could guard Wilt. Other players like Bill Russell said that Wilt was holding back on the court, because Wilt knew that his strength and power could hurt others. Thank you tho for not disrespecting Wilt like many other people do. I think Wilt deserves it to be mentioned in the conversation. If there would be more footages of Wilt doing insane things on the court, I would even put him as the number 1 of all time. Have a nice day
Teams win. What did MJ win in the 1980s how many rings did he get in the 80s. Zero. The first thing people say to this is, Look who MJ had on his team. Same as Wilt, go back and look who he had on his team. Look at what his team did. They were out there shooting 1-12. You can't win ever. Its about the Greatest Player, not the greatest team. Not one person has won a ring by themselves. So in this conversation on who the best player is. Its Wilt. its been over 50 years since he retired. He is STILL the ONLY player to do certain things!
The reason why people bring teams up is because of the impact that they had on it,jordan had a very incredible impact on his teams,lebron had an incredible impact on his teams,wilt,kobe etc,so much impact to the point where if the player left the team would not do as good as if they were on it,you have to take that in account because of how much value in each of these players have
The only question we should be asking is this. If you were starting a new franchise, who is the first player you're taking in the draft, assuming the greatest are all available (rookies). The answer has to be Wilt. My all time starting 5 Point guard - Magic At the 2 - MJ Then Bird Hakeem at the 4 and Wilt the 5. With each in their prime and a great coach, couldn't be stopped.
Bill Russell career win to loss record 690-273 wilts win/loss record 672-373 MJ win/loss record 706-366 Wilt lost out on like 4 or 5 rings to bill russel in the playoffs that were all extremely close games. Wilt was an incredible winner even when he had bad teams. He unfortunately spent most of his career playing against the greatest team of all time. because of those close playoff losses to the celtics, there is like a 9 point difference between wilt having 7 rings instead of 2, or something like that.
also, the way rules were called in the late 50s through early 70s offensive fouls wer a big thing. wilt and other would barely touch a guy , brush them and it would be an offensive foul. so shaq for exmpale, under said rules would have fouled out in thefirst 10 minutes of every game and the way the ycalled travels, double dribbles, palint and other things, Jordan would have not been credite with probably even half his baskets and pretty much anyone else 1985 or after., and even worse today with today's rules and wilt's athleticism an d skills, he would score like 70 ppg becasue he could just keep running to the basket and dunking. however, he could have even done more of that in the sixites. but he was hated for his dominance and shot over sixty percen tof his shots as fadeaways, many which were 15+ feet from the basket and likely there was some in thre point rnage plus wilt only had 8-12 teams meaning he had to play the gerates tconcentration of the greatest centers to eve rlive inght in and night out.
I am still blabbing. I have no problem with 23 as the GOAT, nobody else is close. I will always think that Hakeem the Dream is in top 10. Some say Larry Legend is the GOAT. but I have not been one of them. That said, it is food for thought.
number of rings dows not make a player the best player which is what the goat is. for example i am a detroit lions football fan Barry sanders was the GOAT eastily or at least either him or jim brownwere. barry played 10 years and his TEAM and COACHES and ORganization never helped him win. th atis hwat you see with wilt. wilt had so many teams he played for, so many coaches, constnatly changing styles.until 1968 he always played on very subpar teams he alone brought the teams to heights they never would have even made the playoffs. wilt often improved tehse teams form previous seasons by like 15-18 games in an 80 game season also, teh celtics were the greatest dynasty by far EVER he took them to 4 game 7s they lost those 4 by a totla of NINE points one of the games wilt's temwas down by 1 point with 4-5 seconds left, they were supposeed to inbound the ball to wilt who easitly woul hd have ran down faster and easily scored 2 to win. but a boston player intercepted the ball on a bad throw another game. they were up by one and a last second shot by boston bounced of the rim 12 feet in the air rolled around for liek 3 seconds an somehow LUCKILY went in a 3rd game with the lakers. they were down by 2 with 5 minutes left. 10 minutes prior to th end wilt had a minor injury tht aneeded tweaking he wanted t sit out for 2-5 minutes max. but his idiot coach refused to put him back in to show who is boss , they lost by 2 point. he literally had the greatest player or top 5 in history easily and while he felft fine, refused. and lost by 2. mostliley wou ldhave won don't recall the 4 serioes wha thappened. but that coul dhdave easitly givne wilt 5 rings also, number of rings is silly. there wwer gys who were the last players on boston's bnech woh are nobodies who have 7-9 rings by simply being on the team. are they better than wilt? or kareem? or even an average player? no
For some reason the great Rick Barry had a bug up his ass about Wilt, and called him a loser and other bad things, and not the GOAT. However, years later, when retired, he said the question was ludicrous, as Wilt was by far the GOAT. Saw him a million times. Think that Kareem was better. They played against each other. Look at their rebound totals. Wilt was much better. Better defender, all the way. Look at the story Far and away the greatest. Wilt was much better. Better defender, all the way. Look at the story about a game at UCLA when he was retired, and beat up a very pissed off Magic Johnson.
wilt not better than kareem? i beg to differ . they played each other only once before wilt had one of the most massive knee injuries in history which would end most people's careers. they didn't have the medical and/or physical therapy they have now, the youngest guys in the best of shape today would take 2.5-3 yeras to ercover enough to play. wilt went back after 3-4 monhts, and only played for 2 more years after that so even when he reitried he was only at like 65-70 percnet. wilt at 36 and massively limited by this blocked Kareems skyhook just 3 times in one possession and 5 time in one game and likely 20-25 times overall plus wilt was far more muscular and heavier due to muscle mass. a prime wilt would have crushed him. at the time he played kareem as well, his coaches asked him to only take like 15-25 percent of the amount of FG attmeps he took in his first 7 yeras. and before that he already cut it in half to emulate bill russells playings tyle. but wilt outrebounded Kareem by a very solid margin. even with the injury as well as blocks, tha tthey did not officially show in the record books.
Chris Paul, Big Mouth Chuck, Reggie Miller, Ewing, etc., etc., etc.. never won a ring. I say that two is greater than none. His 66 team was great and they won.
Two is greater than none,but you need more than two to be considered one of the greatest as far as legacy,as a individual standpoint tho,he is up there
There are better clips you can find than this wilt clips used in this video which actually shows his highlights and play style. Try wilt chamberlain archives there are a bunch of good Wilt videos. One video all highlights from his best playing season/prime, there’s also one showing documentary style Wilt vs Kareem, and wilt most athletic giant is another good one that talks more about him in detail. There are a ton more but these are probably the tops. I recommend you try battle of the giants Wilt vs Kareem since you said you believe Kareem is better which is fair opinion. The video is entertaining although it’s Wilt old and after serious knee injury so he’s only a shell of himself.
Well,winning is not all i count for being the greatest,in order to be the greatest you have to win a ring to even be mentioned,if thats the case with your logic allen iverson,carmelo anthony and james harden should be on the list then
I'm sorry but Wilt is way better than Kareem Offensively, Defensively and in playmaking too. if you are basing only the videos ofc Kareem will dominate Wilt was 2 years away till retirement when him and Kareem faced and not to mention Wilt tore his Achilles several years before Kareem entered the league. Wilt pioneered the turn around fadeaway which is MJ and Kobe are known for.. Wilt was the first master of the fadeaway.. While Kareem only had the hookshot and a little fades Wilt was doing fastbreaks, layups, fades, finger roll, and his deep hooks during his early years in the league specifically during his rookie and sophomore years. Defense wise I don't think Kareem is even close, When old and post injury Wilt was able to held Kareem I don't see how kareem Would stand against a prime Wilt. Physique wise Kareem is slower and just an inferior athlete than Wilt
I'm 76. I have seen them all. Hands down Wilt is the GOAT.
Saw Wilt being interviewed by the sideline and baseline. He took and made three hook shots in a row, all from three point land while not looking at basket. Take that Kareem!!
In a practice,not in a real game,We talking about PRACTICE
actaully 4 in a row, the team mate said "this is the one i am talking about for 5 dolalas
wilt made the 4th and the guy looked stunned.
but to take this further. Tommy heingesoon quoted as saying he once saw wilt made 20 out of 25 free throws/baskets from half court.
t doesn't matter of it is practice or not either that is some real skill.
16:43 watch it in slow motion, a glimpse of what Wilt would have done in the 90s etc, people dismiss that block as a goal tending but watch how far forwards he jumps to get to the ball before it drops down.
1. Wilt
2. MJ
3. Bird
4. Kareem
5. Magic.
Not a bad list,me personally i have jordan 1
And quick question,where do you put kobe on the list?
Nahhh. There’s no reason for silt to be over any of those guys u less this is track and field and only individual prowess matters.
im subbing purely because you hate the false height argument, and so do i
Haha,thank you man i appreciate that
In have Wilt in my top 3 behind MJ and Kobe. I would never have a problem with people calling Wilt the goat, because the stories about Wilt are insane.
I think Wilt is the greatest athlete ever and the greatest Center (by far). I don‘t think any Center in history could guard Wilt.
Other players like Bill Russell said that Wilt was holding back on the court, because Wilt knew that his strength and power could hurt others.
Thank you tho for not disrespecting Wilt like many other people do. I think Wilt deserves it to be mentioned in the conversation. If there would be more footages of Wilt doing insane things on the court, I would even put him as the number 1 of all time.
Have a nice day
Yea,and honestly speaking he definitely is on my goat list and the stories that I’ve heard about him is INSANE
Teams win. What did MJ win in the 1980s how many rings did he get in the 80s. Zero. The first thing people say to this is, Look who MJ had on his team. Same as Wilt, go back and look who he had on his team. Look at what his team did. They were out there shooting 1-12. You can't win ever. Its about the Greatest Player, not the greatest team. Not one person has won a ring by themselves. So in this conversation on who the best player is. Its Wilt. its been over 50 years since he retired. He is STILL the ONLY player to do certain things!
The reason why people bring teams up is because of the impact that they had on it,jordan had a very incredible impact on his teams,lebron had an incredible impact on his teams,wilt,kobe etc,so much impact to the point where if the player left the team would not do as good as if they were on it,you have to take that in account because of how much value in each of these players have
The only question we should be asking is this. If you were starting a new franchise, who is the first player you're taking in the draft, assuming the greatest are all available (rookies). The answer has to be Wilt.
My all time starting 5
Point guard - Magic
At the 2 - MJ
Then Bird
Hakeem at the 4 and Wilt the 5.
With each in their prime and a great coach, couldn't be stopped.
Bill Russell career win to loss record 690-273
wilts win/loss record 672-373
MJ win/loss record 706-366
Wilt lost out on like 4 or 5 rings to bill russel in the playoffs that were all extremely close games. Wilt was an incredible winner even when he had bad teams. He unfortunately spent most of his career playing against the greatest team of all time. because of those close playoff losses to the celtics, there is like a 9 point difference between wilt having 7 rings instead of 2, or something like that.
Wow,i actually did not know that at all
also, the way rules were called in the late 50s through early 70s
offensive fouls wer a big thing. wilt and other would barely touch a guy , brush them and it would be an offensive foul. so shaq for exmpale, under said rules would have fouled out in thefirst 10 minutes of every game
and the way the ycalled travels, double dribbles, palint and other things, Jordan would have not been credite with probably even half his baskets
and pretty much anyone else 1985 or after., and even worse today
with today's rules and wilt's athleticism an d skills, he would score like 70 ppg becasue he could just keep running to the basket and dunking. however, he could have even done more of that in the sixites. but he was hated for his dominance and shot over sixty percen tof his shots as fadeaways, many which were 15+ feet from the basket and likely there was some in thre point rnage
plus wilt only had 8-12 teams meaning he had to play the gerates tconcentration of the greatest centers to eve rlive inght in and night out.
watch wilt chamberlain highlights the goat in his prime
Regardless of era, a foul shot is still 15 feet. Check out Barry's stats. Same with Babe Ruth re can't be the best.
I am still blabbing. I have no problem with 23 as the GOAT, nobody else is close. I will always think that Hakeem the Dream is in top 10. Some say Larry Legend is the GOAT. but I have not been one of them. That said, it is food for thought.
I have larry top 5,and honestly right behind bird is magic,hakeem and shaq are neck and neck too in my opinion
number of rings dows not make a player the best player which is what the goat is.
for example i am a detroit lions football fan
Barry sanders was the GOAT eastily or at least either him or jim brownwere.
barry played 10 years and his TEAM and COACHES and ORganization never helped him win. th atis hwat you see with wilt.
wilt had so many teams he played for, so many coaches, constnatly changing styles.until 1968 he always played on very subpar teams
he alone brought the teams to heights they never would have even made the playoffs. wilt often improved tehse teams form previous seasons by like 15-18 games in an 80 game season
also, teh celtics were the greatest dynasty by far EVER
he took them to 4 game 7s
they lost those 4 by a totla of NINE points
one of the games wilt's temwas down by 1 point with 4-5 seconds left, they were supposeed to inbound the ball to wilt who easitly woul hd have ran down faster and easily scored 2 to win. but a boston player intercepted the ball on a bad throw
another game. they were up by one and a last second shot by boston bounced of the rim 12 feet in the air rolled around for liek 3 seconds an somehow LUCKILY went in
a 3rd game with the lakers. they were down by 2 with 5 minutes left. 10 minutes prior to th end wilt had a minor injury tht aneeded tweaking
he wanted t sit out for 2-5 minutes max. but his idiot coach refused to put him back in to show who is boss , they lost by 2 point.
he literally had the greatest player or top 5 in history easily and while he felft fine, refused. and lost by 2. mostliley wou ldhave won
don't recall the 4 serioes wha thappened.
but that coul dhdave easitly givne wilt 5 rings
also, number of rings is silly. there wwer gys who were the last players on boston's bnech woh are nobodies who have 7-9 rings by simply being on the team. are they better than wilt? or kareem? or even an average player? no
Re the pace, the Celts played fast break basketball all the way.
For some reason the great Rick Barry had a bug up his ass about Wilt, and called him a loser and other bad things, and not the GOAT. However, years later, when retired, he said the question was ludicrous, as Wilt was by far the GOAT. Saw him a million times. Think that Kareem was better. They played against each other. Look at their rebound totals. Wilt was much better. Better defender, all the way. Look at the story Far and away the greatest. Wilt was much better. Better defender, all the way. Look at the story about a game at UCLA when he was retired, and beat up a very pissed off Magic Johnson.
Sorry about the misprint above.
wilt not better than kareem? i beg to differ .
they played each other only once before wilt had one of the most massive knee injuries in history which would end most people's careers. they didn't have the medical and/or physical therapy they have now, the youngest guys in the best of shape today would take 2.5-3 yeras to ercover enough to play. wilt went back after 3-4 monhts, and only played for 2 more years after that so even when he reitried he was only at like 65-70 percnet.
wilt at 36 and massively limited by this blocked Kareems skyhook just 3 times in one possession and 5 time in one game and likely 20-25 times overall plus wilt was far more muscular and heavier due to muscle mass. a prime wilt would have crushed him.
at the time he played kareem as well, his coaches asked him to only take like 15-25 percent of the amount of FG attmeps he took in his first 7 yeras. and before that he already cut it in half to emulate bill russells playings tyle.
but wilt outrebounded Kareem by a very solid margin. even with the injury as well as blocks, tha tthey did not officially show in the record books.
Chris Paul, Big Mouth Chuck, Reggie Miller, Ewing, etc., etc., etc.. never won a ring. I say that two is greater than none. His 66 team was great and they won.
Two is greater than none,but you need more than two to be considered one of the greatest as far as legacy,as a individual standpoint tho,he is up there
There are better clips you can find than this wilt clips used in this video which actually shows his highlights and play style. Try wilt chamberlain archives there are a bunch of good Wilt videos. One video all highlights from his best playing season/prime, there’s also one showing documentary style Wilt vs Kareem, and wilt most athletic giant is another good one that talks more about him in detail. There are a ton more but these are probably the tops.
I recommend you try battle of the giants Wilt vs Kareem since you said you believe Kareem is better which is fair opinion. The video is entertaining although it’s Wilt old and after serious knee injury so he’s only a shell of himself.
Wilt does NOT have 3 rings.
@@TheIcemanthomas lol I’m tripping, I don’t know what I was thinking.
Lol
By your "WIN" & "RING" logic, neither MJ, Kobe, LeBron qualifies as the GOAT and Bill Russell has to be #1.
Well,winning is not all i count for being the greatest,in order to be the greatest you have to win a ring to even be mentioned,if thats the case with your logic allen iverson,carmelo anthony and james harden should be on the list then
I'm sorry but Wilt is way better than Kareem Offensively, Defensively and in playmaking too. if you are basing only the videos ofc Kareem will dominate Wilt was 2 years away till retirement when him and Kareem faced and not to mention Wilt tore his Achilles several years before Kareem entered the league.
Wilt pioneered the turn around fadeaway which is MJ and Kobe are known for.. Wilt was the first master of the fadeaway..
While Kareem only had the hookshot and a little fades Wilt was doing fastbreaks, layups, fades, finger roll, and his deep hooks during his early years in the league specifically during his rookie and sophomore years.
Defense wise I don't think Kareem is even close, When old and post injury Wilt was able to held Kareem I don't see how kareem Would stand against a prime Wilt.
Physique wise Kareem is slower and just an inferior athlete than Wilt
We will do more on this topic,that actually will be the next video
this making the case is bad......
How so?