The fact that so many children of happy marriages think this is an over exaggerated performance while children of divorce are just sipping their drinks going "Yeah that sounds 'bout right" should be a lot more upsetting than it is. And this is coming from a child of divorce
I mean, my abusive parents were like this without divorcing, I remember wishing they did, so that I had to endure living with just one at a time. Abusing families are just like this and worse. It'd be amazing to be on the "wow this is exaggerated" side tbh
I somehow thought this scene was more improvised than actually scripted because the actors performed so organic. Amazing how it is all in the script, word for word.
Facts. So it must really be a testament to Noah Baumbach as a writer that he was able to pen something so organic and heartfelt that it hardly needed any improvisation because it really just rolled off the tongue once the actors got into the headspace of the scene... Fantastic work.
Yes, I keep hearing the director really wanted them to stick to script bc he hears it perfectly in his head and that's how he wants it on film... Hats off to him, and the actors.
Scarlett said in an actors on actors interview with Chris Evans that Noah Baumbach never allowed his actors to deviate/improvise from the script, that it had to be word for word
If only "V.O." meant voice over. Imagine having some rando stumble into narration unaptly, "Hey! Try the chair by that window..." followed by "Yeeeaaaah that looks wicked. Nice nice nice. Symbolis--err something, hell yeah! Thanks a ton writer guy!"
The best part of this scene is how you realise that you can’t take a side because both Nicole and Charlie are such flawed people, leading to that conclusion where it seems that they can find some way to live again, no longer partners.
@@waxsaw5352 I think everyone understands they're both bad people, but the way Nicole fucked Charlie over with the lawyers despite them agreeing on how to handle it makes her the worse person to me
Lmao I feel you (I'm an adult know, but was a child of a very gruesome divorce). Scene gets "better" if you know, that child goes to conflicting and guilty feelings like wishing certain someone just died and ended the constant distress and repetitive fights. On a brighter side, we will probably not end up like this, because, without causing it, in a way we've already been through this, and won't act as conflicted and not knowing what to do.
Scarlett actually said that the director wanted every line said exactly like it was written. They could not make any changes. That seems like the most challenging part of this.
@@kittylouvex I'd say that the changes were deliberate ones done in a later version or on the day. Because they did something like 50 takes of the scene. They would have had takes with those lines. Also, on a set you have someone watching every single line. Because every single change in a line, or movement or different delivery can ruin the continuity and pace. There's no way they accidentally left out parts of the script.
I cannot imagine bringing myself to hysteria and memorizing all my lines and staying in character. Sometimes I think I could act. And then i see shit like this.
Or being able to start crying in the middle of the line exactly when it says to. Not just once for one take either. Over and over and over. That was truly amazing to witness
The fact that Adam turns on the tears right when the script asks for it. Actor of this generation. EDIT: The fact that people are actually trying to talk to me like this acting performance is easy to do, is why I ignore most people.
@Brick Films A little man called Martin Scorsese described him as one of the best actors of his generation so you know, even if you don't agree, there's some merit to that statement. And last I checked, crying is part of acting.
Brick Films Lol, you don’t even know his opinion on marvel movies either. He said multiple times he doesn’t hate them or thinks they’re bad, all he said is that he doesn’t believe it’s cinema and their like amusement rides. Scorsese could give less of a shot if marvel is successful, he’s perfectly fine with his art.
@@aizuaizu5073 So I think what it means is that Scarlett Johanson's character wanted to get married but by getting a divorce she's loosing. So it doesn't matter if the odds are in her favour during the divorce process (so she's "winning") because by divorcing in the first place, she already lost. That's what I understood and sorry if I didn't explain myself properly, English isn't my first language 😅
@Madi Hermosa When I first watched it I inmediatly thought that when she says, that she reffers that she wanted to get marry when he didn't. She already lost because their relationship wasn't as good as she thinks, and she delivered herself to someone that didn't love her as much as she did.
Aaa I see thank you guys now I understand about that... Now I really afraid for getting married or falling in love when I grow up... My parents always fight each other too... Thank you guys for your explanation
This is what mourning the loss of love looks like. We tear each other apart in our minds, creating narratives that no one else knows about-until it’s too late. This was some of the most raw and authentic acting and writing I’ve seen in years. I’ve been with my wife for 35 years, and thank goodness we’ve never been this bad-but we’ve come close. If you love someone, talk to them. Share your narrative about how you see your marriage or relationship. You might be surprised by what you discover.
@@sakotsuku as a man, I can tell youb it is, but a man gets labeled as insecure if he were to be that keen on the connection his womn is making with a man. His point rubg to me, that he was a taunch monogimist for her that she was so entitled to, she's more focused on the end game as opposed to how it even got to thT point.
@@gagefulmer6375 Honestly. It’s really heartbreaking hearing parents talk about how their marriage was already on the outs before having a kid, but they stuck with it thinking having said kid would fix all their problems, but in actuality all it did was cause them more grief.
As someone who’s been through divorce and all it’s accompanying battles, this scene was a real gut punch. So real and visceral, you really have to give it to both Adam and Scarlett, they were incredible in this film and really brought Baumbach’s work to life and then some.
These performances are examples of how great these actors really are. Remember when people thought you couldn't be a real actor and still do those lame ass type of roles?
@@xtianchen7977 Gaslighting is when someone tells you that you did something you didnt often enough that you begin to doubt your own actions. Its a disgusting form of non physical abuse.
the only thing that isn't realistic is the woman would probably blame him more about how anwful her life has been because of him she would try to tell herself that she was a complete victim, and they would also both talk over each other
You’ll never understand this scene until you’re at a genuine point when your life when the world isn’t all in front of you anymore, when you feel trapped, full of regrets, and no longer have the optimism of youth. I never used to understand adults acting like this while I minded my business playing neopets. Now I’m do. You can never ever get your youth back.
I'm glad to have experienced it young. It still horrified me how much I reminded myself of what I'd seen. So much I promised myself I wouldn't do, only to go to wayside when trust is broken 1 too many times
The last part hit me the hardest - “I’m sorry.” “Me too.” Even after every ugly thing they said to each other, apologizing was as easy as letting go of those angry words. I took it as the reality of love - you can easily hate the person you love the most, yet easily love the person again even after hating him/her so much.
Steph Go Hate in fact is love. You don’t hate those you don’t love, you hmjust dont care and become indifferent to them. They cared a lot and they loved a lot which is why the hate comes. Hate isn’t but love’s pain.
*@Nerdy Snailie* That is definitely not true. You can definitely hate someone you don’t love by not having any kind of attachment for them and just having nothing but bad thoughts about them. If someone killed your parents, you wouldn’t just be “indifferent” about them. No. You’d hate them. Hate comes in different forms.
i watched this movie with my parents. And my parents were silently sobbing for the entire movie. They had gone through a very dark phase in their marriage. The issue was quite similar. A young career couple decided to marry early because they loved each other too much which then started to fade away and so was their career. Luckily they didn't choose to divorce. They reconciled, acknowledged the individual problems each of them had, and went on with it together.
That last line was so brutal, can't stop crying every time I see it, I think it represents all the negative emotions that were grounded in his heart during the divorce process, damn this is such a powerful movie
Rahul Mondal-tbf I noticed in Star Wars The Force Awakens that I was finding his character more interesting than anyone else, more than the heroes. More or less the same for The Last Jedi...until they made him into ‘angry screaming man’ by the end. The guy has got ability, sign of a very observant person and knows how to express emotion without doing the text book approach. Scarlett does really well too, but I feel like this scene was Adams
I think it's also meant to communicate the intensity of his emotions. Just a second ago it seemed like he hadn't loved her, but afterwards it's this outburst and you know, he did. He did, he's just at the end of the line.
domino2515 thing is too is the dialogue, it’d be considered ‘bad writing’ by some people...but those people have never had an argument like this before. whether it be a teenager to a parent, a partner to a partner, it’s all the same. That kind of row where you both get lost in your anger for each other that you almost stop making sense. Where there isn’t a well constructed argument but just a bucket of feelings and emotions come pouring out and when it’s over you just feel distraught or confused. Just bottled up emotions that come from past neglect, ego, selfishness or pain and it all bubbles to the surface. This just felt so real. As a dude, I know what Adams character is trying to say, and at its core it’s like deflection. He fucked someone else so he’s attempting to dampen the significance of it by saying that laughing with her was more important xD it’s almost laughable to an extent but it’s so real too. That’s what real arguments are like and I’m shocked it was portrayed so well. Script, acting, everything. Great scene. Although I did enjoy that joker film, I feel like this movie should have been up there for an award imo. It really hits close to home for anyone who has experienced this kind of thing. Definitely gonna be a movie that’s appreciated more over time
@@TheArsenalgunner28 I don't know who'd think thiswas badly written. The writing in this is amazing. It's the kind of stuff I love in good books, when the characters come alive, instead of being like little figurines of plastic.
The exchange in this fight that *guts* me the most is when she tells him “you never loved me as much as I loved you” and he’s still responding to a completely different comment, and he doesnt. even. acknowledge. what she just said. When she sees him fail to respond or correct her I felt my eyes fill with tears along with her.
There wasn't really anything he could say to that though. What do you say? "No?" Soometimes it's just easier to go back to a different point in an argument. Not good communication, but that goes out of the window in a heated argument.
@@Tharrel you really thought that your comment was smart ? To say something like this in a heated argument. It take a lot of guts, so no change the subject wont help. She was asking for answers, and he just ignore that part. You can see how much it affected her through her eyes. If you really love and care for that person, you cant just let itt go
This scene and that long ass monologue Scarlet has sold me so much on this movie! It’s like an actual PLAY, no special effects, no hyped up advertising, just straight up solid acting in a good and intriguing story! I wish more movies were like this!
@@JasminTheDreamer I've seen European films, I'm from there and I can agree and disagree with you on this. Yes European films are a lot less sensationalized than American movies. This movie was just like that. But the sheer amount of playwriting and focus on just two people and the amount of monologues they had was just something I had NEVER seen.
@@jeffrahmon7892 idk man, starving to the point that you feel like you completely lost it and still do a great performance as a very difficult character seems oscar worthy to me
This was so authentic. So raw. It's a brilliantly written scene and two stellar performances. You can empathize with both, you can be sick of both - this is what's so perfect about it. There is no wrong or right, just two people who are expressing themselves - a beautifully objective look at how a relationship/marriage ends. It leaves everyone feeling hollow - there's no triumph or vindication, only heartbreak and regret
Academy should have a "Best Scene" Award for those movies who maybe dont gonna win for best picture or director but have a Scene like this a scene so so so good that that scene needs to be Immortalized by a academy award
saeta I think she deserves to be selfish after years of molding herself to fit his lifestyle and to sweep his selfishness under the rug so he could prosper. She said no to big roles in tv just for him. I think she has a right to be selfish after this
@@saeta well, yeah. The whole point is that they're both imperfect people. There's no real "winner" in this scene or movie. Taking sides misses the point.
This scene moves the audience, because it deeply resonates with anyone who’s ever had an argument where they said something that hurt the other person. Good god, it’s gut-wrenching. The both did so phenomenally.
No kidding. That's the worst part to me. Once it's out there you can never take it back. And no matter how much the other person says they forgive you, they'll never forget it.
This is the most emotional scene of this film. Just like in most arguments...there's no way out bcs both of them already had some principle. They're not solving problems..they're just venting. And having problem that hasn't solved is indeed exhausting...mentally and physically. :"(((
@@thatsalt1560 yeah, maybe they are fighting out of nothing. But have you ever live in an abusive household? Did your parents divorce? Have you ever been on a toxic romantic relationship? If you ansered no to the three questions, then you would never understand why people say that this is so realistic.
idk why but some of her delivery kinda made me laugh, the "you didnt love me as much as I love you" especially, like I dont think it was due to bad acting I think it was just the way she said it.
@@shady8045 fair point, but it's also kind of true to life. When folks are arguing, not everything comes out perfect. No guarantee they'd planned that at all, since it could have just been a bad read, but I think it's one of those slips that makes a conversation sound more natural
2:00 The way Adam is just raging and then his voice just cracks like that and then starts crying in that same scene like bro that is beyond good acting.
The fact that people are so divided on who was right or wrong in the movie just proves how good this movie is. Edit: I understand neither of them were right or wrong, I just wanted to highlight the fact that people are disagreeing about certain things in the movie, which proves how well they made this movie.
I can't see anyone taking sides in top comments. People just quote what hit home for them, but we cab acknowledge the complexity of the situation and that while person is understandable, it doesn't mean they are right.
In the end, we find out they were both in the wrong either way. Many divorces are not always caused by one person in the relationship, it’s usually by both.
Nothing like pausing halfway downstairs and then silently going back to your room, half-concentrating on a flash game you're playing or reading the same sentence of a book over and over again because you're listening to your family fight in the next room. It's not like this anymore, but I still remember now it felt as a kid.
Man, it was the fact that the silences made it so much more realistic, just not knowing what to say, or not being able to comprehend what someone said to you.
Like when someone tell you something shocking or shout at you and you only are able to think " oh shit what's happening. Make it stop. Do I have to do something. I don't want to. I just want to leave. But I can't "
Yuki yuka yes it did exist. I myself do the same thing to someone i love. It’s just you can relate so much when you see this scene. Beautifully convinced us that this scene really feels like a real life, not a movie. Dont u think?
All the writers who wrote this put all their pain in their relationships to make this iconic scene. The term "you can't make this stuff up" is so real.
"Are you kidding? I wanted to be married. I already lost." Somehow that line went over my head so many times. But man it sums up her character arc so well. Because I think most of us felt for Adam Driver in this movie. He's got this energy that draws you to him. She won the divorce but lost the marriage. Damn.
She decided to reduce him to it when she went to her lawyer. So what she just had to do was play de victim role, and proyect on Charlie her selfishness
i definitely felt for nicole more. in this scene, he made mostly personal attacks towards her as a person whereas she addressed the problems she had with the relationship, including the uneven power dynamic. not to mention that she gave up her acting career to help him with the theater.
He’s damn good, but best acting? This year? No.... no way. Watch “Magnolia” from Paul Thomas Anderson and see performances like this, actually, watch more movies...
@@LygiaCostaPiano Apparently, praising good acting is a bad idea, and their opinion doesn't matter because there are 'better' performances. They just think he's really good because they haven't seen enough movies. They were just praising him, give it a rest...
I was so engaged in this scene that when the script ended with "try the chair by the window" i was trying so hard to anticipate what they would do with it.
a relationship is less permanent. marriage you have to deal with money, credit, place of residence, ownership and like the movie- kids so a lot more anxiety down that route
@@larsmars2180 Yes, and that happens when you are so angry that you wanna continue fighting although you end up out of breath, more real it couldn't be!
Two different expectations of two people, and neither fulfills each. Life is so complex. People, emotions, perspectives, desires, and goals change. And once it happens, you are left with what-ifs and disappointment. Keeping a relationship alive is so hard these days.
@Mabe 1220 I am much better now, thanks. My advice to anyone younger is to know your worth and not be tied down so young!! If you’re twenty and dealing with someone’s crap you don’t have to be!!! Focus on you! And if they put their hands on you once, THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN!
Before this movie I had only watched Scarlett Johansson in Avengers series. The series having so many leads it's hard to know the potential of particular actor/actress within it, but got to say I became fan of Scarlett & understood how talented of an actress she is after watching Marriage Story.
@@rachel-df1jp well i lost my dad at the of 13, now that im 25 i almost lost my mom from covid but everything its alright, we must be positive at all times even tho i know its kind difficult, be safe
@@brunosalsero38 I’m sorry to hear that, I hope your mom makes a full recovery. I lost my dad myself, except at 16. Which is how old am rn, but yeah your right we have to stay positive
I wish Joaquin and Adam weren't nominated for the Oscar in the same year. That was too bad because both of them were carrying a psychological role, Joaquin's was about the society's illness and Adam's was more about a drama which married couples have while getting divorced. So Joaquin was literally AMAZING at his role, and this is why Adam couldn't get what he deserved.
lmao no. It's a profession with an enormous glut of people trying to get in and talent is not the rate limiting step. There is a small pool of people with the traits needed to be a navy seal or neurosurgeon.
@@axt2they said acting is hard, not acting is harder than being a navy seal or a neurosurgeon. I mean seriously what neuron fired in your mega brain to make you comment that shit, next time don’t say anything
@@axt2 but, those professions don't contribute to the soul. People who use arguments like you forgot that at the end of the day, it is entertainment that we turn to, to soothe the shitness that is life. All the people who had hard professions are also nerds in some way, they need entertainment too. Being entertained is an absolute necessity for humanity.
It can be, but in films, it's usually easier because of time and editing. This also has great writing, which does a lot of the work for an experienced actor.
This is how my parents used to fight as well. But it always ended with my dad saying something so hurtful to my mom and then storming out and never apologizing.
If they paid you millions of dollars and daily put you on a cover of a magazine gushing over how beautiful and amazing you are...you would study for your exam too.
they can do a few takes until they get the best version, in between which they can review the script again. and they can focus on the lines of one scene at a time. unlike us students, we have to cram the whole textbook/entire semester's worth of content for a single test, clueless as to which part we wil be tested on
Amazing. Timeless. The wayshe portrays her character, astonishing. Even after wishing death upon her, she shows her husband compassion. They play their roles soo well
In the first few minutes of the film, Nicole said that she loves Charlie for being someone she can share her problems with, how he always comforts her. Then there's a scene wherein Nicole is complaining about something and Charlie is sitting just listening to her. Then you have this shot in 0:30 wherein she looks defeated when he stands up, because of the realization that one person she share her problems with is the one that caused her pain, this time. So much little things like this in this film.
Honestly, is not often that we see scenes of men REALLY crying and basically being real human beings with feelings and all. This scene not only does that but does it so well its 100% believable. I always forget this is a movie when I'm watching it. It's like I'm just watching somebody else's life
I wanted him to get mad, yell and scream the entire time. When he finally broke it was so intense and emotional. I cried as everything finally came out, the words were said., yelling and screaming. I would not want Adam Driver mad at me. This was truly in my opinion Oscar worthy for him.
Honestly it’s sad but so touching to see that the settle on a common ground at the end the fact that they both acknowledged and said they were sorry and sought out eachother ugh so heart breaking
So we are all only cheering Adam? Not Scarlet?? who was as much a part of the emotional turmoil and struggle in this argument. They BOTH were great screen partners in the movie.
SJ is great too throughout the entire movie, but this is Adam's scene. The movie up to this point is Charlie taking beating after beating whereas Nicole's life has been slowly improving since their separation. This entire argument is him letting out his pent-up frustration by (unjustly) blaming Nicole for his problems both in their marriage and in their divorce. There is an emotional payoff here that the whole film has been building towards, and it reaches its crux when Charlie tells Nicole that he wishes she was dead. Every bit of Adam's performance here portrays a stunning amount of depth and the argument gives him the room to finally let loose his frustrations on the woman he loved. Even without Adam, this is an incredibly-written scene and his final breakdown is what really pushes it to be one of the best of 2019.
I think that adam's role is way more showy in the movie, he has the crying and yelling where she doesn't so he's gotten a lot more attention. however, i think scarlett is just as good in these scenes but it's way more subtle. it doesn't feel like either of them are acting, just that you're watching people
@@sakonan4883 as a woman, don't agree. she could have had a proper conversation about wanting to live in NY because she lost her individuality as an actress. she could have done her own thing in NY and not be so immersed in her husband's theatre. she chose divorce instead of going to therapy, she chose not sleeping with her husband instead of trying to have a break first. she made mistakes too. and she put her husband, herself and her kid through a lot by the whole legal process when she'd agreed to divorce without lawyers in the first place.
ruya x I think so too She clearly has emotional issues What I’m saying though is that his attitude about the cheating isn’t right either He’s in the wrong for this reason because he should have tried talking it out Cheating is often a nail on the cross
@Sally Vee so why didn't she do it? why didn't she say she was going to move to LA for a job temporarily? She could have actually do it, and take their son with her and make a home there. people love to blame their inaction on other people and pretend they are sacrificing. if she didn't want to be sucked into his life that much, she could have managed not to be sucked into his life. but she let it be, then she was too bitter about it to resolve the matter logically.
@Sally Vee what? she said she would divorce him, she sent him the divorce papers, got a lawyer involved and literally cornered him into doing what she wants just so he could see his child. they had decided they would live in NY, she made a choice! he didn't force her. he was a good husband to her, why is it his fault that she lost her individuality? he was not selfish, he was just doing what he loved. and she claimed she loved supporting his dream, but she had forgotten about hers. it's not his fault.
You didn't get what it mean? Director's note to maybe move to the chair in the end for last take, but organically she ended up standing in the middle of the room with him at her knees (sorry for my English) in the final take
The amount of emotional stress actors go through to make a character believable enough that we can feel for and relate to is one of the most difficult things to do. Yet, Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson did it almost effortlessly imo. This film forever made me a fan of Noah Baumbach as well.
This is one of the greatest performances of a relationship I've ever seen. There are impossible moments like this. But somehow, it's still worth it. When she consoles him even though he gutted her. That showed me what it was to be human. We are fuck ups. We are messy, awful, spiteful little creatures. But we love. The selflessness, putting someone's needs above our own in a tragic moment of despair... it's beauty in tragedy. I've seen and been through a lot of hell in my short life. I've lost both parents. I've had abusive relationships. I've worked myself ragged and still had to come up with compassion and care I didn't have to give. This struck a chord for me.
This, this scene broke my heart into pieces. My parents never talked like that, even when they had to. But they spoke to me this way while they were divorcing. I cried, a lot
Imagine you perform all these feelings, emotionally and physically then the director says '' ok guys a few more takes". And then all over again. This job is hard af. I appreciate and respect acting so much.
Due to my past, I literally forgot this was all acting and I was put in my 6 year old mindset again, silently watching like it was my own parents arguing.
Same. The first time I watched this I went into shock and felt like I was on autopilot the whole day, unfeeling and numb. A few days later I had an emotional breakdown, probably majorly due to this lmao
L 64 uh no u literally get a few months maybe weeks days even sometime instant to practice and study a script or monologue I’ve taken acting classes it’s not easy giving directors what they want
They don’t memorize the whole script at a time. They repeat and practice scenes over and over, especially big scenes. You imagine yourself in the scenario rather than hard memorize and it comes organically.
I know how it feels to tell someone you love you wish they were dead. It's a disgusting feeling and I had to go to therapy for it. Sometimes we say things we regret, but we say it in that moment 'cause the pain inside is too excruciating to bear you want the other person to feel a hundred times worse than you. In the end, you try to let it go and make peace with the situation. It'll get better. These two actors were phenomenal but Adam's gut-wrenching line brought me to tears and made me relive my own personal regret. Much love to Noah and his actors, and to anyone reading this make sure to love yourself first before attempting to find love again, and when you do, remember to learn from your past relationships
I feel REALLY bad for charlie. He definitely got the short end of the stick with the conclusion. I honestly thought he was going to kill himself at the end of the movie, or die or SOMETHING because at least that would make this feel less REAL. The situation is inescapable and frustrating to hell. And unfortunately, divorce is always prone to those things. I do believe that nicole is just as justified as Charlie, but I cant forgive her for going to that lawyer in the first place because it caused all this suffering for the both of them. Honestly, I believe that if she had read the letter she wrote him about what she loved about him, they might have been able to work it out and stay together, but after all that happened through the movie, when charlie read it in the end, it was definitely too late. Fcking depressing, I was constantly crying. Good job movie, I dont think I've ever felt so emotional watching a movie before so really kudos. Definitely deserves the praise.
They were always going to get a divorce. She wanted a completely different life than he did. If they had read the letters, though, the divorce probably would've been more amicable.
True. The fact that one side cheated(Charlie) truly is what kind of lead to the divorce not so much differences. Differences can be settled and still coexist. But when one falls short divorce in this situation tends to only go one way. And I believe in both sides the movie tried to convey that message. What could be isn’t always what should be
@@CTMustang she had her suspicions, but the "cheating" happened after they agreed to separate but were still living together. They were just roommates with a kid at this point.
Out of context this may seem melodramatic. But in the context of the film, the lead up to this was built on eggshells and niceties. This outburst of raw emotion was cathartic for both the characters and the audience! It was truly an incredible film
I just realized that he said “if I could guarantee Henry would be ok” and I didn’t think of the fact that she was pregnant and it’s taking its toll on me rn that he cared about that child and thought about him even in that moment when he hated her
My parents loved this scene so much that they reenact it every weekend
Sad about your parents. But funny comment. 😂
And they did specials on holidays!
You made my day 😂😂
same 😍
lol this is the one. all the other comments can leave
me: I want to be an actor
my memory: nah
all of this isnt taken in one shot scenes like this mostly are taken in two to three shots
Savage 9X9 that is true but both actors came to set fully memorized regardless
@@tkokflux6322 Adam Driver is a theatre actor, he knows the whole scene word for word
It's not that hard to learn a scene it just takes repetition
@@kadrianenyia_ yeah of course every time when i go on the set i am always ready its just that i told him thats this isnt all shot in one take
Director: Oops sorry I wasn't recording lets do another take
Director with kylo ren voice : MORE!
I know its a joke but it would not be a big deal since there are multiple shots in this scene
@@saveriodave that's a lot
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"No one can hate you with more intensity than someone who used to love you."
one of the truest things ive ever read
I'm experiencing this rn
i love that
no sh1t
Он и правда не любил ее так, как она-то, жто видно
The fact that I was completely disgusted with both of them and totally empathized with both of them says everything to me. Masterful performance.
It’s been a WHILE since I’ve seen a scene so human before.
You’re the problem
@@21stcenturyanimation81 ?
@@21stcenturyanimation81 Elaborate
@@21stcenturyanimation81 I, shrimp, don't comprehend your communication. Please, elaborate your statements a bit more clearly
divorced kids be like : where's the Oscar for our parents
now can we get a movie from henry's perspective
Why would kids be divorced
You mean kids of divorce?
YEP. Real life >> movies. And we oscar winning performances each day in our own lives, including us.
@@WhosThatItsNoOne LOL
10 y/o me: peacefully play minecraft.
My parents:
best comment lmao
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Cheer up yo
well that’s kinda dark
Haha funny edgy humor my parents hate each other.
The fact that so many children of happy marriages think this is an over exaggerated performance while children of divorce are just sipping their drinks going "Yeah that sounds 'bout right" should be a lot more upsetting than it is. And this is coming from a child of divorce
I mean, my abusive parents were like this without divorcing, I remember wishing they did, so that I had to endure living with just one at a time. Abusing families are just like this and worse.
It'd be amazing to be on the "wow this is exaggerated" side tbh
@@cecilialovalvo5709 Was just about to say this.
Literally no one said that this was an over exaggerated performance, everyone is saying that it's awesome
Honestly this happens other relationships as well. They don't have to break apart because of arguments like these
I mean, this is how my parents were. I grew numb to it by like, 10 years old.
I somehow thought this scene was more improvised than actually scripted because the actors performed so organic. Amazing how it is all in the script, word for word.
Virtual Warp nearly.
@@finnthefinn
Right, some words are left out. But not much. Which is remarkable.
Facts. So it must really be a testament to Noah Baumbach as a writer that he was able to pen something so organic and heartfelt that it hardly needed any improvisation because it really just rolled off the tongue once the actors got into the headspace of the scene... Fantastic work.
Yes, I keep hearing the director really wanted them to stick to script bc he hears it perfectly in his head and that's how he wants it on film... Hats off to him, and the actors.
Scarlett said in an actors on actors interview with Chris Evans that Noah Baumbach never allowed his actors to deviate/improvise from the script, that it had to be word for word
Ahh.... Nothing like a well done film scene triggering childhood nostalgia.
felt this ...
This video made me cry.........
Childhood nostalgia???
"Nostalgia"
Wow slow down there cowboy
"I can't believe I have to know you forever." That cut deep.
Alisky this is why you should choose who your baby daddy or baby mama is carefully because they could be in your life forever
@Tobyy I could of never guessed smh
Fabio wow! Dude... that totally never would’ve crossed my mind! A true intellectual right there
@@Itzezyyyy Really???? Are you sure???????
Holy shit I guess I should have thought about that before getting a girlfriend 😔
imagine having it written down to the word when you’re supposed to cry. and doing just that. absolutely incredible.
No one:
Set designer: Try the chair by the window.
If only "V.O." meant voice over. Imagine having some rando stumble into narration unaptly, "Hey! Try the chair by that window..." followed by "Yeeeaaaah that looks wicked. Nice nice nice. Symbolis--err something, hell yeah! Thanks a ton writer guy!"
Just trying to be usefull
🤣🤣🤣
@@SameGProds I'm pretty sure it means voice offscreen
My contributing to the group project after doing none of the work
“Yo can you cry?”
Adam - “bet”
Nick Maxwell yep!
“Oh boy can I”
-Adam
He’s such an amazing actor
The dark side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural
Without any tears too. Now that’s acting
me: being an actress must be cool
me after watch this: nope, its so hard.
R.J Ley Said haha it’s funny you say that, because it’s this kind of intense stuff that would make me want to be an actor
@@selenacasanova5227 dew it
Selena Casanova lol same
@@selenacasanova5227 same
But it’s worth it
The best part of this scene is how you realise that you can’t take a side because both Nicole and Charlie are such flawed people, leading to that conclusion where it seems that they can find some way to live again, no longer partners.
Yeah, a lot of the people trying to pick a side are actively missing the point this film is making.
@@waxsaw5352 I think everyone understands they're both bad people, but the way Nicole fucked Charlie over with the lawyers despite them agreeing on how to handle it makes her the worse person to me
@Harry Armes idk dude, he cheated on her so in my opinion he's worse. Mf cheated but still wanted an award for not cheating on her sooner lmao.
he cheated but then got mad that she didn’t appreciate how he didn’t cheat on her sooner. Are you fucking joking?
@@iamshakuriHe's a narciassist 😅
Are my parents going to be nominated for an oscar as well? Cause they do this all the time
Well, that's sad
I'm so sorry about that! But your comment made me laugh. Hope you're okay ❤️
that’s why they’re such great actors. they (probably) hardly know each other and made it feel like your parents fighting lmfao
😂😂😂
Lmao I feel you (I'm an adult know, but was a child of a very gruesome divorce). Scene gets "better" if you know, that child goes to conflicting and guilty feelings like wishing certain someone just died and ended the constant distress and repetitive fights. On a brighter side, we will probably not end up like this, because, without causing it, in a way we've already been through this, and won't act as conflicted and not knowing what to do.
My parents don't even need a script to do this.
D E E P
YO SAME
The improvisasor😎
you didn’t need a script either when you left your wife and daughter back in florida
that's a lot coming from Jotaro himself
Scarlett actually said that the director wanted every line said exactly like it was written. They could not make any changes. That seems like the most challenging part of this.
Oh wow. Adam Driver did add the "and i kinda did" after he said he was afraid to loose his 20s
@@sarahs6712 Scarlett missed the “how could you” line too
@@kittylouvex and adam the second "you're welcome" too
@@kittylouvex I'd say that the changes were deliberate ones done in a later version or on the day. Because they did something like 50 takes of the scene. They would have had takes with those lines. Also, on a set you have someone watching every single line. Because every single change in a line, or movement or different delivery can ruin the continuity and pace. There's no way they accidentally left out parts of the script.
She added the word "so" I heard. Take the Oscar way.
I cannot imagine bringing myself to hysteria and memorizing all my lines and staying in character. Sometimes I think I could act. And then i see shit like this.
Or being able to start crying in the middle of the line exactly when it says to. Not just once for one take either. Over and over and over. That was truly amazing to witness
this literally how my neighbors fight every single day at 3 am pls give them an award so they can shut up
THIS COMMENT TOOK ME OUT LMAO
Poor neighbours:/
Plus the crying and all ? :)))))) uhhhhh boiiii
lmaoooo they filming a short film
.🤔😑.
The fact that Adam turns on the tears right when the script asks for it.
Actor of this generation.
EDIT: The fact that people are actually trying to talk to me like this acting performance is easy to do, is why I ignore most people.
@Brick Films Adam is one of the best actors of this generation.
@Brick Films A little man called Martin Scorsese described him as one of the best actors of his generation so you know, even if you don't agree, there's some merit to that statement. And last I checked, crying is part of acting.
@Brick Films Lol Scorsese can make a better film in his 'senile' state than any of the Marvel films you worship
Brick Films Lol, you don’t even know his opinion on marvel movies either. He said multiple times he doesn’t hate them or thinks they’re bad, all he said is that he doesn’t believe it’s cinema and their like amusement rides. Scorsese could give less of a shot if marvel is successful, he’s perfectly fine with his art.
@Brick Films You are aware, that Adam Driver, is like, an amazing actor, right? Star Wars arguably held him back.
"Are you kidding me? I wanted to be married. I'd already lost."
deep right??
I don't get it... Can you explain me???
@@aizuaizu5073 So I think what it means is that Scarlett Johanson's character wanted to get married but by getting a divorce she's loosing. So it doesn't matter if the odds are in her favour during the divorce process (so she's "winning") because by divorcing in the first place, she already lost. That's what I understood and sorry if I didn't explain myself properly, English isn't my first language 😅
@Madi Hermosa When I first watched it I inmediatly thought that when she says, that she reffers that she wanted to get marry when he didn't. She already lost because their relationship wasn't as good as she thinks, and she delivered herself to someone that didn't love her as much as she did.
Aaa I see thank you guys now I understand about that... Now I really afraid for getting married or falling in love when I grow up... My parents always fight each other too... Thank you guys for your explanation
This is what mourning the loss of love looks like. We tear each other apart in our minds, creating narratives that no one else knows about-until it’s too late. This was some of the most raw and authentic acting and writing I’ve seen in years. I’ve been with my wife for 35 years, and thank goodness we’ve never been this bad-but we’ve come close. If you love someone, talk to them. Share your narrative about how you see your marriage or relationship. You might be surprised by what you discover.
Everyone's talking about the acting but the writing was also SPOT ON. Like wow whoever wrote those lines is pure genius
Exactly why Noah Baumbach deserves to win an Oscar. his writing in this movie is so gut wrenching, and his directing, like THE TALENT!!
roxylove honestly liked what they were saying more than how they said it. definitely not a fan on the performance aspect of this film.
I replied it twice when he said "You shouldn't be upset that I fucked her you should be upset that I had a laugh with her" Good writing.
@@artofjoy21finally! thank you
"I can't believe I have to know you forever" such good writing
“You should be upset that I had a laugh with her” the way that line made my blood boil... effective script 10/10
Max right!! how could nobody talks about this line in the comments🥺🥺 that line was strong af
Didn't ask
@@sabus1265 i did
Yet if a woman slept with someone else, it's not met with this same logic. Smh.
@@sakotsuku as a man, I can tell youb it is, but a man gets labeled as insecure if he were to be that keen on the connection his womn is making with a man. His point rubg to me, that he was a taunch monogimist for her that she was so entitled to, she's more focused on the end game as opposed to how it even got to thT point.
The fact that people see their parents in this clip tells you what a brilliant job Scarlett and Adam did
Tells you how sad some childhoods are
@@gagefulmer6375 and that too 😕
@@gagefulmer6375 Honestly. It’s really heartbreaking hearing parents talk about how their marriage was already on the outs before having a kid, but they stuck with it thinking having said kid would fix all their problems, but in actuality all it did was cause them more grief.
@@gagefulmer6375 your acting like 70% of marriages don't end in divorce lol
@@xtracheezyy9173 That was the case for my parents. LOL, I guess...
As someone who’s been through divorce and all it’s accompanying battles, this scene was a real gut punch. So real and visceral, you really have to give it to both Adam and Scarlett, they were incredible in this film and really brought Baumbach’s work to life and then some.
Kylo Ren and Black Widow argue over their unstable relationship.
Fan fact:Kylo ren and black widow died in same year
@@Karlebow571 TRUE hahahaha
These performances are examples of how great these actors really are. Remember when people thought you couldn't be a real actor and still do those lame ass type of roles?
Loki 2012 Batman black widow died 2023
@@Sh1ryyu Kylo Ren died a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....
"You're so merged with your selfishness, you don't identify it as selfishness anymore." That was perfection.
gaslighting perfection
Yes but it's the "you're such a d*ck?" for me😭
@@360.Tapestry what gaslighting? She was right.. he fucked a woman doesnt he? And he didnt think he was wrong wth.
@@xtianchen7977 everyone is selfish. It’s human nature. If you watched the movie she did some things that weren’t the best to him too
@@xtianchen7977 Gaslighting is when someone tells you that you did something you didnt often enough that you begin to doubt your own actions. Its a disgusting form of non physical abuse.
This scene was not even acting it was like it was real
Bruh I haven’t kept up with this comment and DAMN
the only thing that isn't realistic is the woman would probably blame him more about how anwful her life has been because of him she would try to tell herself that she was a complete victim, and they would also both talk over each other
@@Fbitypeshit who hurt you
spaghettibolognese no one lol i’m just being realistic my friend
No it’s not lol
Body language is a gamechanger.
You’ll never understand this scene until you’re at a genuine point when your life when the world isn’t all in front of you anymore, when you feel trapped, full of regrets, and no longer have the optimism of youth. I never used to understand adults acting like this while I minded my business playing neopets. Now I’m do. You can never ever get your youth back.
I'm glad to have experienced it young. It still horrified me how much I reminded myself of what I'd seen. So much I promised myself I wouldn't do, only to go to wayside when trust is broken 1 too many times
I had a relationship like this, and it was much worse than this when I was 18 and with a 35yo man. It can happen when you're younger too
I liked neopets
This comment is truly powerful. You put it absolutely on Point.
The last part hit me the hardest -
“I’m sorry.”
“Me too.”
Even after every ugly thing they said to each other, apologizing was as easy as letting go of those angry words. I took it as the reality of love - you can easily hate the person you love the most, yet easily love the person again even after hating him/her so much.
wise dog
Steph Go Hate in fact is love. You don’t hate those you don’t love, you hmjust dont care and become indifferent to them. They cared a lot and they loved a lot which is why the hate comes. Hate isn’t but love’s pain.
@@groverkiinmuppetborn714 indeed , that is a clever dog
*@Nerdy Snailie* That is definitely not true. You can definitely hate someone you don’t love by not having any kind of attachment for them and just having nothing but bad thoughts about them. If someone killed your parents, you wouldn’t just be “indifferent” about them. No. You’d hate them. Hate comes in different forms.
Steph Go Me (the "man") and my Ex fought *exactly exactly like this ... damn ... so freaking relatable that give me chills* !!!
i watched this movie with my parents. And my parents were silently sobbing for the entire movie. They had gone through a very dark phase in their marriage. The issue was quite similar. A young career couple decided to marry early because they loved each other too much which then started to fade away and so was their career. Luckily they didn't choose to divorce. They reconciled, acknowledged the individual problems each of them had, and went on with it together.
Exactly the same, but my mom fell asleep while watching
Ok boomer
Yes I bet your dad said that, because you know say random shit that would be really weird to say to your kid.
@@sick4652 Ok doomer
Hanzade Erdoğan ok coomer
That last line was so brutal, can't stop crying every time I see it, I think it represents all the negative emotions that were grounded in his heart during the divorce process, damn this is such a powerful movie
And you see Nicole aint even flinching, she knows he did not meant to say those words.
Rahul Mondal-tbf I noticed in Star Wars The Force Awakens that I was finding his character more interesting than anyone else, more than the heroes.
More or less the same for The Last Jedi...until they made him into ‘angry screaming man’ by the end.
The guy has got ability, sign of a very observant person and knows how to express emotion without doing the text book approach. Scarlett does really well too, but I feel like this scene was Adams
I think it's also meant to communicate the intensity of his emotions. Just a second ago it seemed like he hadn't loved her, but afterwards it's this outburst and you know, he did. He did, he's just at the end of the line.
domino2515 thing is too is the dialogue, it’d be considered ‘bad writing’ by some people...but those people have never had an argument like this before. whether it be a teenager to a parent, a partner to a partner, it’s all the same. That kind of row where you both get lost in your anger for each other that you almost stop making sense. Where there isn’t a well constructed argument but just a bucket of feelings and emotions come pouring out and when it’s over you just feel distraught or confused.
Just bottled up emotions that come from past neglect, ego, selfishness or pain and it all bubbles to the surface.
This just felt so real. As a dude, I know what Adams character is trying to say, and at its core it’s like deflection. He fucked someone else so he’s attempting to dampen the significance of it by saying that laughing with her was more important xD it’s almost laughable to an extent but it’s so real too. That’s what real arguments are like and I’m shocked it was portrayed so well.
Script, acting, everything. Great scene. Although I did enjoy that joker film, I feel like this movie should have been up there for an award imo. It really hits close to home for anyone who has experienced this kind of thing. Definitely gonna be a movie that’s appreciated more over time
@@TheArsenalgunner28 I don't know who'd think thiswas badly written. The writing in this is amazing. It's the kind of stuff I love in good books, when the characters come alive, instead of being like little figurines of plastic.
Acting must be ONE OF the hardest forms of entertainment, I swear.
They were perfect.
The exchange in this fight that *guts* me the most is when she tells him “you never loved me as much as I loved you” and he’s still responding to a completely different comment, and he doesnt. even. acknowledge. what she just said. When she sees him fail to respond or correct her I felt my eyes fill with tears along with her.
This. THIS is the part that kills me, because I've said it before, and know that feeling
There wasn't really anything he could say to that though. What do you say? "No?" Soometimes it's just easier to go back to a different point in an argument. Not good communication, but that goes out of the window in a heated argument.
tsuyoi_hikari easily the best AND worst thing about the film is in a sense you empathize/sympathize with both of them.
@@Tharrel you really thought that your comment was smart ? To say something like this in a heated argument. It take a lot of guts, so no change the subject wont help. She was asking for answers, and he just ignore that part. You can see how much it affected her through her eyes. If you really love and care for that person, you cant just let itt
go
@@lune5289 it seems like *someone* emphasized with one of the characters only lol
This scene and that long ass monologue Scarlet has sold me so much on this movie! It’s like an actual PLAY, no special effects, no hyped up advertising, just straight up solid acting in a good and intriguing story!
I wish more movies were like this!
I felt that the majority of the movie was monologs. It was so unique.
Yea it’s so real. It was too real that it made me emotional so I had to stop watching
Fun fact: In a TED Talk, Adam Driver said he actually used to perform at plays and made a foundation for vets who want to get into acting.
There are movies like that. They are called "european films".
@@JasminTheDreamer I've seen European films, I'm from there and I can agree and disagree with you on this. Yes European films are a lot less sensationalized than American movies. This movie was just like that. But the sheer amount of playwriting and focus on just two people and the amount of monologues they had was just something I had NEVER seen.
If Joaquin didn’t perform so well with Joker, Adam would have took the Oscar home
Edit: grammar
Fatih Sapanoglu honestly Adam should’ve gotten it
Jeff Rahmon Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Joaquin Phoenix brokes ass to Adam Driver, NOW AND FOREVER!!!
@@plus3938 haha what an innocent creature
@@jeffrahmon7892 idk man, starving to the point that you feel like you completely lost it and still do a great performance as a very difficult character seems oscar worthy to me
*would have
This was so authentic. So raw. It's a brilliantly written scene and two stellar performances. You can empathize with both, you can be sick of both - this is what's so perfect about it. There is no wrong or right, just two people who are expressing themselves - a beautifully objective look at how a relationship/marriage ends. It leaves everyone feeling hollow - there's no triumph or vindication, only heartbreak and regret
Academy should have a "Best Scene" Award for those movies who maybe dont gonna win for best picture or director but have a Scene like this a scene so so so good that that scene needs to be Immortalized by a academy award
Irvine Brooks Agree!
ehh its okay it s a bit overdone
true, like from scent of a woman. or Shawshank redemption, there is so much.
You're a genius i want this
bad idea
You’re so merged with your own selfishness that you dont even identify it as selfishness anymore
She's very selfish after the divorce too though
saeta I think she deserves to be selfish after years of molding herself to fit his lifestyle and to sweep his selfishness under the rug so he could prosper. She said no to big roles in tv just for him. I think she has a right to be selfish after this
I have ears too
@@saeta well, yeah. The whole point is that they're both imperfect people. There's no real "winner" in this scene or movie. Taking sides misses the point.
@@printthelegends very very true.
This scene moves the audience, because it deeply resonates with anyone who’s ever had an argument where they said something that hurt the other person. Good god, it’s gut-wrenching. The both did so phenomenally.
No kidding. That's the worst part to me. Once it's out there you can never take it back. And no matter how much the other person says they forgive you, they'll never forget it.
This is the most emotional scene of this film. Just like in most arguments...there's no way out bcs both of them already had some principle. They're not solving problems..they're just venting. And having problem that hasn't solved is indeed exhausting...mentally and physically. :"(((
No, it's so forced and unnatural and they're not even fighting about anything. They're just fighting for the sake of fighting. Embarrassing.
@@thatsalt1560 yeah, maybe they are fighting out of nothing. But have you ever live in an abusive household? Did your parents divorce? Have you ever been on a toxic romantic relationship?
If you ansered no to the three questions, then you would never understand why people say that this is so realistic.
@@thatsalt1560If you had parents like this, you’d no it’s not even remotely unrealistic
2:00 that sobbing voice when he said “If I could guarantee Henry would be okay” really moved me
Everyone's talking about Adam driver but like Scarlett Johansson killed it
they both killed it
They're talking about him because he has most of the lines ... count them.
idk why but some of her delivery kinda made me laugh, the "you didnt love me as much as I love you" especially, like I dont think it was due to bad acting I think it was just the way she said it.
@@shady8045 fair point, but it's also kind of true to life. When folks are arguing, not everything comes out perfect. No guarantee they'd planned that at all, since it could have just been a bad read, but I think it's one of those slips that makes a conversation sound more natural
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2:00 The way Adam is just raging and then his voice just cracks like that and then starts crying in that same scene like bro that is beyond good acting.
pure oscar worthiness
Right! Exactly the reason why he's one of my favorite actors. Pure gold
Shits happened to me with my girlfriend, I’d be in a rage and say something I didn’t mean and instantly regret it. Worst feeling ever.
@@aidenral4532 I know pal. I know :( it feels the worst
Thats not acting i think he straight up became the character LOL
The fact that people are so divided on who was right or wrong in the movie just proves how good this movie is.
Edit: I understand neither of them were right or wrong, I just wanted to highlight the fact that people are disagreeing about certain things in the movie, which proves how well they made this movie.
yes!
The point is there was no right or wrong. It's just life.
I can't see anyone taking sides in top comments. People just quote what hit home for them, but we cab acknowledge the complexity of the situation and that while person is understandable, it doesn't mean they are right.
In the end, we find out they were both in the wrong either way. Many divorces are not always caused by one person in the relationship, it’s usually by both.
No one was on Nicoles side Karen
Nothing like pausing halfway downstairs and then silently going back to your room, half-concentrating on a flash game you're playing or reading the same sentence of a book over and over again because you're listening to your family fight in the next room. It's not like this anymore, but I still remember now it felt as a kid.
Talent.
Fancy seeing you here
🥰🥰 I loved seeing your comment on here!
omg i’m shocked to just stumble upon a comment of his
Lovely seeing you here Damon D 🇫🇷
Practice
Man, it was the fact that the silences made it so much more realistic, just not knowing what to say, or not being able to comprehend what someone said to you.
Fr
Like when someone tell you something shocking or shout at you and you only are able to think " oh shit what's happening. Make it stop. Do I have to do something. I don't want to. I just want to leave. But I can't "
This scene proves that “i love you even when i hate you” exist.
Talitha Sabrina Right, it‘s not about how much you love the person when you love them, but how much you love them when you hate them.
It did really exist in real life i think
Yuki yuka yes it did exist. I myself do the same thing to someone i love. It’s just you can relate so much when you see this scene. Beautifully convinced us that this scene really feels like a real life, not a movie. Dont u think?
Came to realise that liking someone is much more important than loving them
All the writers who wrote this put all their pain in their relationships to make this iconic scene. The term "you can't make this stuff up" is so real.
"Are you kidding? I wanted to be married. I already lost." Somehow that line went over my head so many times. But man it sums up her character arc so well. Because I think most of us felt for Adam Driver in this movie. He's got this energy that draws you to him. She won the divorce but lost the marriage. Damn.
I definitely felt for her more than him. I couldn't imagine being in her situation.
i felt for him until we found out charlie cheated..after that it was hard to decide who was getting the shorter stick
@@xtonibx5770 I felt more for her too...
She decided to reduce him to it when she went to her lawyer. So what she just had to do was play de victim role, and proyect on Charlie her selfishness
i definitely felt for nicole more. in this scene, he made mostly personal attacks towards her as a person whereas she addressed the problems she had with the relationship, including the uneven power dynamic. not to mention that she gave up her acting career to help him with the theater.
It feels uncomfortable watching just because of how real it feels..
I have similar feelings by my parents at home :) Or is it home ?
I feel like I'm the neighbor watching my neighbors fight
exactly
Oscar for Adam Driver!!! Best acting I've seen in long time
He’s damn good, but best acting? This year? No.... no way. Watch “Magnolia” from Paul Thomas Anderson and see performances like this, actually, watch more movies...
@@LygiaCostaPiano Apparently, praising good acting is a bad idea, and their opinion doesn't matter because there are 'better' performances. They just think he's really good because they haven't seen enough movies. They were just praising him, give it a rest...
Yes
my parents did it better
@@joostietoost4220 I'm pretty sure he didn't want to come across as offensive, you're definitely overreacting
I was so engaged in this scene that when the script ended with "try the chair by the window" i was trying so hard to anticipate what they would do with it.
They give me anxiety about having a marriage let alone a relationship ..........
Watch Blue Valentine
Those two weren't ready to be married
Same here...I want to but then I don't want too. It's complicated feeling.
Literally my parents marriage did the same to me.
a relationship is less permanent. marriage you have to deal with money, credit, place of residence, ownership and like the movie- kids so a lot more anxiety down that route
2:00 listen how Charlie breaks his voice when he says "ok". Thats how real sadness looks like.
I think he just lost breath from all the other lines but other than that 👏
@@larsmars2180 Yes, and that happens when you are so angry that you wanna continue fighting although you end up out of breath, more real it couldn't be!
dang i never noticed this subtlety until u pointed it out, but his delivery is really heartbreaking
I am sure that they are having a little disagreement
witnessing this shit in real life is not awesome at all, it's heartbreaking
I'm witnessing this conversation in my life for so long now ( probably everyday ) that's why it didn't make me sad.
truth
Infinity Frost yes.
Infinity Frost watch joker that will make you happy.
🥺
Two different expectations of two people, and neither fulfills each. Life is so complex. People, emotions, perspectives, desires, and goals change. And once it happens, you are left with what-ifs and disappointment. Keeping a relationship alive is so hard these days.
Actors are such blessings.If I got yelled like that, even if it was just acting, I'd curl in the corner and start crying. These guys are fantastic!
Same
Same
well that's what adam did
Congrats on never being in a horrible relationship lol. This was me from the age of 20 to 24 with my childhood sweetheart.
@Mabe 1220 I am much better now, thanks. My advice to anyone younger is to know your worth and not be tied down so young!! If you’re twenty and dealing with someone’s crap you don’t have to be!!! Focus on you! And if they put their hands on you once, THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN!
I was waiting for him to pull out his lightsaber...
"I killed my father and now it's your turn."
J Bro DBSBSGSVW I DIDNT SEE THE SECOND PART AND STARTING CACKLING
He has a amazing voice ngl
J Bro 😂😂
*cackles into the distance*
Did the set designer ever try the chair by the window?
Lol 😂
What? Lol
@@antieverything at the end of the script
I like my chairs with hot sauce and a side of french fries with honey mustard.
1000th like 😁
Before this movie I had only watched Scarlett Johansson in Avengers series. The series having so many leads it's hard to know the potential of particular actor/actress within it, but got to say I became fan of Scarlett & understood how talented of an actress she is after watching Marriage Story.
he plays such a convincing narcissist lol
Yep, this gives me flashbacks to my step dad
@@rachel-df1jp ouch much?
@@brunosalsero38 lol wdym. Yes ouch indeed
@@rachel-df1jp well i lost my dad at the of 13, now that im 25 i almost lost my mom from covid but everything its alright, we must be positive at all times even tho i know its kind difficult, be safe
@@brunosalsero38 I’m sorry to hear that, I hope your mom makes a full recovery. I lost my dad myself, except at 16. Which is how old am rn, but yeah your right we have to stay positive
I wish Joaquin and Adam weren't nominated for the Oscar in the same year. That was too bad because both of them were carrying a psychological role, Joaquin's was about the society's illness and Adam's was more about a drama which married couples have while getting divorced. So Joaquin was literally AMAZING at his role, and this is why Adam couldn't get what he deserved.
could you say he didnt "get what he fucking deserved"
Adam still got robbed.
Who is Joaquin, and for what movie were they nominated for?
@@heetucola1087 he played the Joker. In the movie Joker.
Scarlett got ripped off twice that year for best actress and supporting actress.
Being an actor is harder than it seems like imagine being able to bring words to life and ignore all the lights, crew, and cameras
lmao no. It's a profession with an enormous glut of people trying to get in and talent is not the rate limiting step. There is a small pool of people with the traits needed to be a navy seal or neurosurgeon.
@@axt2What's even the correlation? She never said that being an actor is the hardest job out there.
@@axt2they said acting is hard, not acting is harder than being a navy seal or a neurosurgeon. I mean seriously what neuron fired in your mega brain to make you comment that shit, next time don’t say anything
@@axt2 but, those professions don't contribute to the soul. People who use arguments like you forgot that at the end of the day, it is entertainment that we turn to, to soothe the shitness that is life. All the people who had hard professions are also nerds in some way, they need entertainment too. Being entertained is an absolute necessity for humanity.
It can be, but in films, it's usually easier because of time and editing. This also has great writing, which does a lot of the work for an experienced actor.
This is how my parents used to fight as well. But it always ended with my dad saying something so hurtful to my mom and then storming out and never apologizing.
The screenwriter is extremely attentive to detail. I mean, everything is scripted, not just words but the emotions and movements. Incredible!
I'm pretty sure the screenwriter/director, Noah Baumbach, based the film on his real life experiences.
@@fixedfocusfilm3068 Yes, as far as I've heard, the film is semi-autobiographical
he deliberately made this movie based on his affair with greta when he was married to JJL
don't most scripts have all of those too?
@@aidanjanemcintosh6919 Not necessarily. It depends.
I always wondered how they can memorize all this lines and i can't memorize two words for the exam
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If they paid you millions of dollars and daily put you on a cover of a magazine gushing over how beautiful and amazing you are...you would study for your exam too.
they can do a few takes until they get the best version, in between which they can review the script again. and they can focus on the lines of one scene at a time. unlike us students, we have to cram the whole textbook/entire semester's worth of content for a single test, clueless as to which part we wil be tested on
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The hate looked so real, it reminded me of my parents. 10/10 amazing!
SAMEEEE
Same
Same here
Big F
Well holy shit
Amazing. Timeless. The wayshe portrays her character, astonishing. Even after wishing death upon her, she shows her husband compassion. They play their roles soo well
In the first few minutes of the film, Nicole said that she loves Charlie for being someone she can share her problems with, how he always comforts her. Then there's a scene wherein Nicole is complaining about something and Charlie is sitting just listening to her. Then you have this shot in 0:30 wherein she looks defeated when he stands up, because of the realization that one person she share her problems with is the one that caused her pain, this time. So much little things like this in this film.
I never recognized this! Such a little detail that changes the whole dynamic of this argument
Nicole: do you love her!?
“NoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo”
... bUt sHE dIDn'T haTE mE!"
Honestly, is not often that we see scenes of men REALLY crying and basically being real human beings with feelings and all. This scene not only does that but does it so well its 100% believable. I always forget this is a movie when I'm watching it. It's like I'm just watching somebody else's life
Yeah! Because men don't have real feelings!
@@lean4470 it must be scary for men to have fake feelings that they perceive as 100% real feelings and feel just like real feelings. 😣
@@veriveryluvr I was being sarcastic tho
@@lean4470 me too lol
As a man who cries a lot I agree! I almost wrote *too much* which I guess is part of the problem.
I wanted him to get mad, yell and scream the entire time. When he finally broke it was so intense and emotional. I cried as everything finally came out, the words were said., yelling and screaming. I would not want Adam Driver mad at me. This was truly in my opinion Oscar worthy for him.
Honestly it’s sad but so touching to see that the settle on a common ground at the end the fact that they both acknowledged and said they were sorry and sought out eachother ugh so heart breaking
SIKE nah the thing that kills me through this whole movie is they’re still obviously madly in love they’re just so jaded and miserable
So we are all only cheering Adam? Not Scarlet?? who was as much a part of the emotional turmoil and struggle in this argument.
They BOTH were great screen partners in the movie.
forachange ikr she was amazing
forachange I haven’t seen the whole movie but he was the only one who stuck out to me in this clip
SJ is great too throughout the entire movie, but this is Adam's scene. The movie up to this point is Charlie taking beating after beating whereas Nicole's life has been slowly improving since their separation. This entire argument is him letting out his pent-up frustration by (unjustly) blaming Nicole for his problems both in their marriage and in their divorce. There is an emotional payoff here that the whole film has been building towards, and it reaches its crux when Charlie tells Nicole that he wishes she was dead. Every bit of Adam's performance here portrays a stunning amount of depth and the argument gives him the room to finally let loose his frustrations on the woman he loved. Even without Adam, this is an incredibly-written scene and his final breakdown is what really pushes it to be one of the best of 2019.
Well she is nominated too for best actress!
I think that adam's role is way more showy in the movie, he has the crying and yelling where she doesn't so he's gotten a lot more attention. however, i think scarlett is just as good in these scenes but it's way more subtle. it doesn't feel like either of them are acting, just that you're watching people
He was so entitled when he tries to excuse his own cheating as not cheating and as how he could have did more
Moon Nana I didn’t say what she did was better
What I said was he was wrong to do this
Two wrongs don’t make a right
@@sakonan4883 as a woman, don't agree. she could have had a proper conversation about wanting to live in NY because she lost her individuality as an actress. she could have done her own thing in NY and not be so immersed in her husband's theatre. she chose divorce instead of going to therapy, she chose not sleeping with her husband instead of trying to have a break first. she made mistakes too. and she put her husband, herself and her kid through a lot by the whole legal process when she'd agreed to divorce without lawyers in the first place.
ruya x I think so too
She clearly has emotional issues
What I’m saying though is that his attitude about the cheating isn’t right either
He’s in the wrong for this reason because he should have tried talking it out
Cheating is often a nail on the cross
@Sally Vee so why didn't she do it? why didn't she say she was going to move to LA for a job temporarily? She could have actually do it, and take their son with her and make a home there. people love to blame their inaction on other people and pretend they are sacrificing. if she didn't want to be sucked into his life that much, she could have managed not to be sucked into his life. but she let it be, then she was too bitter about it to resolve the matter logically.
@Sally Vee what? she said she would divorce him, she sent him the divorce papers, got a lawyer involved and literally cornered him into doing what she wants just so he could see his child. they had decided they would live in NY, she made a choice! he didn't force her. he was a good husband to her, why is it his fault that she lost her individuality? he was not selfish, he was just doing what he loved. and she claimed she loved supporting his dream, but she had forgotten about hers. it's not his fault.
Damn. They took those simple words on the page and made them blossom like a flower.
*TRY THE CHAIR BY THE WINDOW*
I was wondering what that was
You didn't get what it mean? Director's note to maybe move to the chair in the end for last take, but organically she ended up standing in the middle of the room with him at her knees (sorry for my English) in the final take
when i read that, i thought she was going to tell him to off himself using the chair. Oh lord.
The amount of emotional stress actors go through to make a character believable enough that we can feel for and relate to is one of the most difficult things to do. Yet, Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson did it almost effortlessly imo.
This film forever made me a fan of Noah Baumbach as well.
Great actors and it's all in the script. Great script.
Mia well he was pretty damn good in this scene, just saying.
This is one of the greatest performances of a relationship I've ever seen.
There are impossible moments like this. But somehow, it's still worth it. When she consoles him even though he gutted her. That showed me what it was to be human. We are fuck ups. We are messy, awful, spiteful little creatures. But we love. The selflessness, putting someone's needs above our own in a tragic moment of despair... it's beauty in tragedy.
I've seen and been through a lot of hell in my short life. I've lost both parents. I've had abusive relationships. I've worked myself ragged and still had to come up with compassion and care I didn't have to give. This struck a chord for me.
Him crying at the end of his argument is real af. I felt that.
This, this scene broke my heart into pieces. My parents never talked like that, even when they had to. But they spoke to me this way while they were divorcing. I cried, a lot
That’s so fucked up. I’m sorry you had to go through that.
2:37 sounds like he farted and apologized for it
Kek
LOL made me laugh while being teary eyed 😆
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that also. It even sounds his crying was a moment of laughter right after that. 😂
Lmao
I screamed so loud
Imagine you perform all these feelings, emotionally and physically then the director says '' ok guys a few more takes". And then all over again. This job is hard af. I appreciate and respect acting so much.
Due to my past, I literally forgot this was all acting and I was put in my 6 year old mindset again, silently watching like it was my own parents arguing.
I feel you. Isn’t ptsd just great
@@breakingad89 It sucks.
Same. The first time I watched this I went into shock and felt like I was on autopilot the whole day, unfeeling and numb. A few days later I had an emotional breakdown, probably majorly due to this lmao
Western parents be like...
@@myaava6608 Pretty much.
how do actors memorizes paragraphs of script jesus
Years of practice and repetition for weeks doesn't make it that hard
L 64 uh no u literally get a few months maybe weeks days even sometime instant to practice and study a script or monologue I’ve taken acting classes it’s not easy giving directors what they want
They don’t memorize the whole script at a time. They repeat and practice scenes over and over, especially big scenes. You imagine yourself in the scenario rather than hard memorize and it comes organically.
@@slantize
As a Drama and Theatre major, you are correct, sir.
I don’t even memorizes my own phone number.
0:12 **Kylo Ren starts sweating**
Mr AutismO this made me chuckle
Mr AutismO and swearing tf kylo
I was laughing at first because I could see my parents always fighting like this until I started crying. Man, do I love this scene.
I am so sorry about that though
I know how it feels to tell someone you love you wish they were dead. It's a disgusting feeling and I had to go to therapy for it. Sometimes we say things we regret, but we say it in that moment 'cause the pain inside is too excruciating to bear you want the other person to feel a hundred times worse than you. In the end, you try to let it go and make peace with the situation. It'll get better. These two actors were phenomenal but Adam's gut-wrenching line brought me to tears and made me relive my own personal regret. Much love to Noah and his actors, and to anyone reading this make sure to love yourself first before attempting to find love again, and when you do, remember to learn from your past relationships
Bravo🙌🏼 one of the finest👌🏼 comments here yet.
“..To anyone reading this make sure to love yourself first before attempting to find love again.”
This one so powerfull
Lack of music makes it too much realistic that I forgot they were acting.
Do a double backflip off a cliff, pretty please, with a cherry on top.
@@june.bourque Kid what 🤨❓
@@june.bourque Death threats are not funny.
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Man, Adam is fantastic
Adam’s performance is just absolutely amazing… still gives me goosebumps years later
I feel REALLY bad for charlie. He definitely got the short end of the stick with the conclusion. I honestly thought he was going to kill himself at the end of the movie, or die or SOMETHING because at least that would make this feel less REAL. The situation is inescapable and frustrating to hell. And unfortunately, divorce is always prone to those things. I do believe that nicole is just as justified as Charlie, but I cant forgive her for going to that lawyer in the first place because it caused all this suffering for the both of them. Honestly, I believe that if she had read the letter she wrote him about what she loved about him, they might have been able to work it out and stay together, but after all that happened through the movie, when charlie read it in the end, it was definitely too late. Fcking depressing, I was constantly crying. Good job movie, I dont think I've ever felt so emotional watching a movie before so really kudos. Definitely deserves the praise.
They were always going to get a divorce. She wanted a completely different life than he did. If they had read the letters, though, the divorce probably would've been more amicable.
True. The fact that one side cheated(Charlie) truly is what kind of lead to the divorce not so much differences. Differences can be settled and still coexist. But when one falls short divorce in this situation tends to only go one way. And I believe in both sides the movie tried to convey that message. What could be isn’t always what should be
@@CTMustang she had her suspicions, but the "cheating" happened after they agreed to separate but were still living together. They were just roommates with a kid at this point.
@@CTMustang he says to her "it was after I was on the couch" which was when they decided it was over.
Allison Samuel oh ok. Forgot about that detail. But all in all I believe the film put its message well wouldn’t you agree. As well being so emotional.
Out of context this may seem melodramatic. But in the context of the film, the lead up to this was built on eggshells and niceties. This outburst of raw emotion was cathartic for both the characters and the audience! It was truly an incredible film
I just realized that he said “if I could guarantee Henry would be ok” and I didn’t think of the fact that she was pregnant and it’s taking its toll on me rn that he cared about that child and thought about him even in that moment when he hated her
Wait who is pregnant?
she's not pregnant, Henry was about 8 years old