I always tell people one isn’t better than the other. Rolex Submariner does some things better, while the SMP 300 does other things better than the sub. There’s pros and cons with both. My biggest issue with the SMP is the case size and non-tapering bracelet. I want to buy it at the AD last week, but it’s too large. Bought the Pelagos 39 instead
@@Pler1978 I don’t have a “normal male wrist,” or average. I’m thin, not obese (like most western men). And I’ve always had a smaller frame compared to my peers. With that out of the way, men larger than me love and wear the explorer 36; and it looks great on their wrist.
What is your wrist size. The only thing about the tang style rubber I'm afraid of is the excess rubber strap poking out from the view down. I know there's a triangle to help this but just wanted to ask
Hi Marek, I really like both colors (and also the green and blue too). I do think the white is more eye catching and dynamic. But I wanted this watch to be more understated as I plan on it being my travel watch (and when I don’t want to have something like a Rolex on my wrist). So for me and my collection, the black on rubber strap is better … but I do still miss my previous white one. 😊
@@DougsPerspective I really consider to get white SMP 300 to be my first and only luxury watch. Ive got some black and blue dial watches so I want some watch with white dial to compliment all my collection well. I guess I will wait few moths to see which new watches will come from Tudor 2024 and then will decide if Omega is one to get.
Another great vid Doug! As an owner of both myself, I agree with you in that the SMP works better with more strap options than the sub. But I love both equally 😊
Wow, what an amazing video. Oh, I also hate you Doug for making me reconsider not selling this exact same SMP300 on rubber 😂. So, I've had this exact watch for about a year now. It's been fantastic. Like you said, melts on the wrist and keeps impeccable time. Tough as a tank. Ive recently acquired a brand new 124060. I love both the sub and the smp. However, I've felt that there's too much overlap now. Two iconic divers. But I only need one, right? So I figured I'd sell the SMP300 (since I like them both equally but the sub was much harder to get and retains value better) which would allow me to use the funds of the SMP300 for another watch from another brand that I haven't yet tried like IWC or Glashutte Original. I decided to stop wearing the SMP300 to preserve the condition its in until I listed it for sale. It has sat in that damn watchbox for 3 months now. For whatever reason, every time I try to talk myself into listing it, I can't. And i think it's because I can't think of a single watch that I could get over the SMP300, that's under $5k, that would provide a better fit, finish, technologically impressive movement, and history. Sure, maybe I could get a Mark XX from IWC or one of the new Breitling GMTs (eta modified movements), but cmon. They still cant compete with the SMP300. Soooo...damn you! I think you may have been the final nail on the coffin that I needed to solidify keeping it.
Hey Steel Steez, I'm glad to have complicated it for you ... ha ha ha! Actually, you can't go wrong with either as a "one and only." But to be honest, if I owned both and could only have one, it would be the Sub.
Hi Doug, I have been enjoying your videos! Both watches are iconic and great in their own way. Do consider the stunning mesh-bracelet made by the german brand „Staib“ which you can find online. I have recently purchased it for my SMP diver and it is from it’s quality as good as it gets and it looks better than the original Omega mesh, which in my opinion has the problem with the thickness of the overlapping band on the inner side under the clasp. It costs also much less…
Hey Anthony - thank you for your nice comments! Interestingly, I am very much considering the Staib mesh instead of Omega’s mesh. Which version do you own? I’ve watched a few reviews and not sure which version to get. I look forward to your advice!
Hello Doug, I recently purchased the Staib ref. 2792 with the Butterfly-clasp, in 20mm width and in 150mm length that fits my 18cm (about 7 inch) wrist just fine with not much tolerance. For your wrist I would advise you to go with the 170mm length and adjust it by taking out a couple links from the clasp which will make it look even better since the clasp will get shorter and you will see more of the beautifully finished band. The links on the clasp are easy to get out and they are quite thin which will allow a perfect fit. Btw it is the only way to adjust the length of the bracelet. I can tell you that I am totally happy with the band especially because it has not the holes and that chunky clasp like the OEM-bracelet and it’s quality and finishing is just as good. It looks like it was made only for the Seamaster Diver. I own the original Omega rubber-band with the folding clasp as well, which is outstandingly comfortable but the Staib just looks amazingly elegant and sporty at the same time. I hope I could give you some helpful information! Thanks for your awesome videos and keep having fun with this wonderful never-out-of-time-hobby!
Just wait a few months until the AR coating on the Omega is all scuffed and scratched up. It's also not covered under Omega warranty. My only big gripe with Omega. They put AR coating on the outside of the crystal. Other than that, they are great watches in almost every way compared to Rolex.
Hey Captain Z, I agree, I don’t like that Omega uses AR coating on the outside of the crystal. No problems with mine. Interestingly, I had a Skyfall AT a few years ago and the AR coating did scratch and Omega DID replace the entire crystal for free under warranty.
Hey Doug! I owned both at one point. I kept the watch that I will always make me proud when wearing and will hold its value down the road. You guys know the answer :)
Funny how you don't see many video titled "Why the Submariner is better than or the best ...". Ps. not a fan of the sub, way too common to feel exclusive.
Hi Dinh, this black SMP is actually my third (I had the white and blue dialed versions previously). You are correct - I expect to keep my Sub for a very long time (possibly forever). But I also expect to keep this SMP for a very long time as a nice beater and travel watch. Thanks for your comment!
There’s literally a photo on Reddit of someone their Omega bracelet snapping. Mid bracelet. Not at the clasp or anything. Now I don’t know what they were doing or anything??? The Rolex is definitely a better watch though.
I agree the Rolex is better … but for the money, the Onega is an amazing deal and gives 90% of the experience. I don’t recall if I mentioned this to you Chris, but I’m originally from Pittsburgh and I’ve really enjoyed your channel for some time. 👍
@@itscomplicatedwatches Yes, I am living in Greenville, SC. I agee ... would have been great to get together. Maybe sometime in future when I visit da 'Burgh!
Google "submariner bracelet broke rolex forums". You will find plenty of pictures and threads of the same thing happening on the Rolex side 😂. I mean, it's common sense I would think. Every brand and model will experience bracelets randomly breaking. Don't care if it's a 300 dollar watch or 30k watch. To use that as the basis as to why the submariner is better is just pretty silly if im being honest. And yes, I own both the modern SMP300 and the current sub so i can speak from actual experience. Both do different things better than the other.
True and False … true, the Rolex is a better watch. And nothing will satisfy the want for a Rolex until one owns a Rolex. False, because straight up, the Omega gives as much watch for a much better price and the peace of mind wearing a “less desirable” watch can be calming. Of course, the true answer is they BOTH are phenomenal watches!
@@DougsPerspective it just that every time I see a Rolex Sub vs Omega Seamaster comparison, it reminds me of the competitive comercial slogan of Presidente vs Corona beer; “You don’t need lime and salt to make Presidente taste good”, meaning Rolex Sub doesn’t need rubber or natos to look good 🤣
@@ALL-il1sw Well lest be honest, a watch is a jewelry, It’s an accent accessory to your wardrobe. 99% of us are not going to pick one over a slight second precision difference or how gear mechanically was patented to turn in an ingenious way more different than the other, na, I wear a Rolex Sea Dweller 43mm any day of the week over the Omega Seamaster, because it looks better, first I’m 38 years old, 6’3 ft tall, in shape, single, looking good, and not getting a PHD on some other person’s brand, I’m flashing my way up to as many girl’s skirt as I can and flashing F-Us to all smaller beta males out my way! 💪🏽👑 Rolex is king for kings!
If everything is equal, I agree. But we do not live in a vacuum. The 2X price, negative desirability of the Rolex hype, and the difficulty for most to acquire a Rolex at the AD makes a very good argument to find the “next best substitute.” But I do agree (as I called myself a Rolex fanboy in my video), that Rolex is my favorite brand.
321 Ed White. 1:1 ratio (1 watchmaker manufacturers 1 watch from start to finish). Rolex is 10,000 machines to assemble 1 watch? Sorry to poop all over your party.
It’s entirely subjective, but here in London you’re far more likely to draw unwanted attention and potentially get mugged for wearing a Submariner. Less so with the Seamaster. Plus the green Omega is far more interesting than any Submariner ( although I do wish the Seamaster was a tiny bit smaller and the bracelet tapered 😩)
Thank you for your comment Matt! That is an unfortunate truth and one of the reasons it is harder to “enjoy” my Sub effortlessly - one must always be cautious while wearing it.
I just found your channel, great videos! Keep up the good work.
Hi Justin! Thanks so much for your nice comment - I really appreciate it! 😁
I always tell people one isn’t better than the other. Rolex Submariner does some things better, while the SMP 300 does other things better than the sub. There’s pros and cons with both. My biggest issue with the SMP is the case size and non-tapering bracelet. I want to buy it at the AD last week, but it’s too large. Bought the Pelagos 39 instead
Yes, I agree, both are awesome. And so is the Pelagos 39 … congratulations on your awesome watch!
@@DougsPerspective thank you! 😊 I have two luxury divers. No more for me. It’s time for a GS and an explorer 36
@@RabbitWatchShop Here's my GS - I love it ua-cam.com/video/JUKNqesYeG8/v-deo.htmlsi=seFINyQatS4oJ-Bi
Agree, I miss the SMP from the 90’s early 2000
@@Pler1978 I don’t have a “normal male wrist,” or average. I’m thin, not obese (like most western men). And I’ve always had a smaller frame compared to my peers. With that out of the way, men larger than me love and wear the explorer 36; and it looks great on their wrist.
What is your wrist size. The only thing about the tang style rubber I'm afraid of is the excess rubber strap poking out from the view down. I know there's a triangle to help this but just wanted to ask
Hi Arash, my wrist is 7.25” / 184 mm. Mine does not have too much strap hanging out. Thanks so much for your comment!
Amazing thanks so much! Very helpful@@DougsPerspective
Hi Dough, do you like more black Omega or white? Do you still got both colours?
Hi Marek, I really like both colors (and also the green and blue too). I do think the white is more eye catching and dynamic. But I wanted this watch to be more understated as I plan on it being my travel watch (and when I don’t want to have something like a Rolex on my wrist). So for me and my collection, the black on rubber strap is better … but I do still miss my previous white one. 😊
@@DougsPerspective I really consider to get white SMP 300 to be my first and only luxury watch. Ive got some black and blue dial watches so I want some watch with white dial to compliment all my collection well. I guess I will wait few moths to see which new watches will come from Tudor 2024 and then will decide if Omega is one to get.
Another great vid Doug! As an owner of both myself, I agree with you in that the SMP works better with more strap options than the sub. But I love both equally 😊
Thanks JT! 😁
Wow, what an amazing video. Oh, I also hate you Doug for making me reconsider not selling this exact same SMP300 on rubber 😂. So, I've had this exact watch for about a year now. It's been fantastic. Like you said, melts on the wrist and keeps impeccable time. Tough as a tank. Ive recently acquired a brand new 124060. I love both the sub and the smp. However, I've felt that there's too much overlap now. Two iconic divers. But I only need one, right? So I figured I'd sell the SMP300 (since I like them both equally but the sub was much harder to get and retains value better) which would allow me to use the funds of the SMP300 for another watch from another brand that I haven't yet tried like IWC or Glashutte Original. I decided to stop wearing the SMP300 to preserve the condition its in until I listed it for sale. It has sat in that damn watchbox for 3 months now. For whatever reason, every time I try to talk myself into listing it, I can't. And i think it's because I can't think of a single watch that I could get over the SMP300, that's under $5k, that would provide a better fit, finish, technologically impressive movement, and history. Sure, maybe I could get a Mark XX from IWC or one of the new Breitling GMTs (eta modified movements), but cmon. They still cant compete with the SMP300. Soooo...damn you! I think you may have been the final nail on the coffin that I needed to solidify keeping it.
Hey Steel Steez, I'm glad to have complicated it for you ... ha ha ha! Actually, you can't go wrong with either as a "one and only." But to be honest, if I owned both and could only have one, it would be the Sub.
Nice Video ... Both watches make sense .... My only issue with SMP is that its just thick ...
Thanks Sammy! I do agree with you the Sub has perfect proportions and I wish the SMP was a bit thinner too.
I noticed the logo on the crown lined up on the SMP but not the Sub
Hi ALL, thanks for your comment. You are correct, my Sub crown is not aligned whereas the SMP’s crown is … I was lucky with the Omega.
Nice presentation !
Thank you Jimmy!
Hi Doug, I have been enjoying your videos! Both watches are iconic and great in their own way. Do consider the stunning mesh-bracelet made by the german brand „Staib“ which you can find online. I have recently purchased it for my SMP diver and it is from it’s quality as good as it gets and it looks better than the original Omega mesh, which in my opinion has the problem with the thickness of the overlapping band on the inner side under the clasp. It costs also much less…
Hey Anthony - thank you for your nice comments! Interestingly, I am very much considering the Staib mesh instead of Omega’s mesh. Which version do you own? I’ve watched a few reviews and not sure which version to get. I look forward to your advice!
Hello Doug, I recently purchased the Staib ref. 2792 with the Butterfly-clasp, in 20mm width and in 150mm length that fits my 18cm (about 7 inch) wrist just fine with not much tolerance. For your wrist I would advise you to go with the 170mm length and adjust it by taking out a couple links from the clasp which will make it look even better since the clasp will get shorter and you will see more of the beautifully finished band. The links on the clasp are easy to get out and they are quite thin which will allow a perfect fit. Btw it is the only way to adjust the length of the bracelet. I can tell you that I am totally happy with the band especially because it has not the holes and that chunky clasp like the OEM-bracelet and it’s quality and finishing is just as good. It looks like it was made only for the Seamaster Diver.
I own the original Omega rubber-band with the folding clasp as well, which is outstandingly comfortable but the Staib just looks amazingly elegant and sporty at the same time. I hope I could give you some helpful information! Thanks for your awesome videos and keep having fun with this wonderful never-out-of-time-hobby!
Just wait a few months until the AR coating on the Omega is all scuffed and scratched up. It's also not covered under Omega warranty. My only big gripe with Omega. They put AR coating on the outside of the crystal. Other than that, they are great watches in almost every way compared to Rolex.
Hey Captain Z, I agree, I don’t like that Omega uses AR coating on the outside of the crystal. No problems with mine. Interestingly, I had a Skyfall AT a few years ago and the AR coating did scratch and Omega DID replace the entire crystal for free under warranty.
Lovely Scenery, Lovely watches
Thank you Dhanny!
Omega for consumers, Rolex for investors, good chat.
Hi Rich, thanks so much for your comment!
lol rolex is the definition of a consumer watch, most people who own buy it just for the name/brand recognition
Hey Doug! I owned both at one point. I kept the watch that I will always make me proud when wearing and will hold its value down the road. You guys know the answer :)
Hey Mr. Duc! Yes, I know the answer ;) Good hearing from you!
Casio F-91W?
@@steelsteez6118 How did you know?
Seiko Tuna Marinemaster 300m😊🎉😂
Funny how you don't see many video titled "Why the Submariner is better than or the best ...". Ps. not a fan of the sub, way too common to feel exclusive.
Hi Martin, thanks for your comment. You are correct! 😉
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The bezel of the SMP is teribbly compared to the Sub. That's a sign of qualtiy!
Hi Doncommander, I don’t think any watch has a bezel as good as the Rolex. The new SMP’s is very good - the Rolex is perfect.
What’s terrible is that you can’t even spell “terrible” correctly. Your spelling is terrible! 🤦🏻♂️
sound like you just bought a new watch and its the latest and greatest... lets see if you still have that Omega in 2 years like that Rolex.
Hi Dinh, this black SMP is actually my third (I had the white and blue dialed versions previously). You are correct - I expect to keep my Sub for a very long time (possibly forever). But I also expect to keep this SMP for a very long time as a nice beater and travel watch. Thanks for your comment!
There’s literally a photo on Reddit of someone their Omega bracelet snapping. Mid bracelet. Not at the clasp or anything.
Now I don’t know what they were doing or anything???
The Rolex is definitely a better watch though.
I agree the Rolex is better … but for the money, the Onega is an amazing deal and gives 90% of the experience. I don’t recall if I mentioned this to you Chris, but I’m originally from Pittsburgh and I’ve really enjoyed your channel for some time. 👍
@@DougsPerspectiveYou moved? Would have been cool to get together and talk watches!
@@itscomplicatedwatches Yes, I am living in Greenville, SC. I agee ... would have been great to get together. Maybe sometime in future when I visit da 'Burgh!
Google "submariner bracelet broke rolex forums". You will find plenty of pictures and threads of the same thing happening on the Rolex side 😂. I mean, it's common sense I would think. Every brand and model will experience bracelets randomly breaking. Don't care if it's a 300 dollar watch or 30k watch. To use that as the basis as to why the submariner is better is just pretty silly if im being honest. And yes, I own both the modern SMP300 and the current sub so i can speak from actual experience. Both do different things better than the other.
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Yes you are Sajid! 👊
Even Doug knows that is a false statement 😅
True and False … true, the Rolex is a better watch. And nothing will satisfy the want for a Rolex until one owns a Rolex. False, because straight up, the Omega gives as much watch for a much better price and the peace of mind wearing a “less desirable” watch can be calming. Of course, the true answer is they BOTH are phenomenal watches!
I value and respect your opinion, but you’ve actually proven why Rolex is far superior to the lesser brand of Omega. 👑
Hi Frank, thanks for your comment. Wait for my next video where I will be agreeing with your statement. 😊👍
@@DougsPerspective it just that every time I see a Rolex Sub vs Omega Seamaster comparison, it reminds me of the competitive comercial slogan of Presidente vs Corona beer; “You don’t need lime and salt to make Presidente taste good”, meaning Rolex Sub doesn’t need rubber or natos to look good 🤣
Rolex for those who show, Omega for those who know
@@ALL-il1sw Well lest be honest, a watch is a jewelry, It’s an accent accessory to your wardrobe. 99% of us are not going to pick one over a slight second precision difference or how gear mechanically was patented to turn in an ingenious way more different than the other, na, I wear a Rolex Sea Dweller 43mm any day of the week over the Omega Seamaster, because it looks better, first I’m 38 years old, 6’3 ft tall, in shape, single, looking good, and not getting a PHD on some other person’s brand, I’m flashing my way up to as many girl’s skirt as I can and flashing F-Us to all smaller beta males out my way! 💪🏽👑 Rolex is king for kings!
@@frankv7068 hahah, and you feel the need to brag on the internet. BS, you live in ya mumma basement bro😂😂
There is no Omega thats better than any Rolex
If everything is equal, I agree. But we do not live in a vacuum. The 2X price, negative desirability of the Rolex hype, and the difficulty for most to acquire a Rolex at the AD makes a very good argument to find the “next best substitute.” But I do agree (as I called myself a Rolex fanboy in my video), that Rolex is my favorite brand.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So why did NASA dismiss the Daytona and choose the Speedmaster? Seriously, you’re funny.
321 Ed White. 1:1 ratio (1 watchmaker manufacturers 1 watch from start to finish). Rolex is 10,000 machines to assemble 1 watch? Sorry to poop all over your party.
@@steelsteez6118 my party isn’t pooped, Rolex has and always will be better than Omega, they’d have gone bust if it wasn’t for the Bond franchise.
@@torqueofthedevil8145Rolex would have gone bust if it wasnt for Zenith. So is every Zenith better than every Rolex? 😂
It’s entirely subjective, but here in London you’re far more likely to draw unwanted attention and potentially get mugged for wearing a Submariner. Less so with the Seamaster. Plus the green Omega is far more interesting than any Submariner ( although I do wish the Seamaster was a tiny bit smaller and the bracelet tapered 😩)
Thank you for your comment Matt! That is an unfortunate truth and one of the reasons it is harder to “enjoy” my Sub effortlessly - one must always be cautious while wearing it.