I’d appreciate you talked slower for us that are not English native speakers! Because I mostly couldn’t understand what you said but it looked really interesting
you forgot one point - the Price I went for Purple, cause it was cheaper by far than Red Plus. (Red is CMR which sucks). 111€ vs 137€ makes the decision EASY.
Are you using it in a NAS storage environment? Mine just failed a couple of weeks ago. I used a 2TB WD purple as a hypervisor drive. Died within a year, to be fair I got it 2nd hand and very cheap for the price as well.
@@itpugil 2nd hand HDD lol. bad idea. also, most NAS cases suck major D cause bad airflow tight and plastic. I dont use it in NAS per se, I put it in a small PC that I can use as mediacenter, backup gaming PC, and NAS at the same time. and good airflow as well for a 50€ case with 3 fans. from Sharkoon
@@crazyrussianbot8012 I've got mine as a proxmox server in a mini itx form factor. Just deciding whether it's a good idea to use it as a file server where people can stream off to(the movie files are on a different HGST 1TB hard drive), but I am also running 5 containers and 1 KVM. So wondering if its a good idea to turn to skyhawks seeing that they're more available and a lot cheaper than ironwolves.
I know this video is old but what if you are using your nas for saving file's like photos with the occasional looking back to find particular photos or files which would be the better choice
Interesting the part you say having 2 separate raids loads the CPU. Say you want to add another pool in TrueNas. So you have one red pool and one purple pool. Is this notable in the CPU Let's put an Intel N100 as a reference to have a low bar.
I find it amazing how people gobble up opinions as facts. If you want a true comparison, make a test read/write on a batch of, let's say, 50, 60 drives each and put up the results. I have looked up your "article" linked in the description. Same stuff. Don't get me started on the reliability charts or MTBF... I don't see any info on number of harddrives tested. Not to mention the fact that you compare percentages.., which have 0 value, as to the number of hdd's is taken from. Please learn not to rely that much on percentages for brand comparison, if the actual number is not the same.
I was 'gifted" two free Seagate Seakawk AI 8TB drives (before I bought any others) for my 2 bay NAS. No surveillance use is planned, just media storage and Plex. Is it worth the extra cost to replace them or can I get away with using them and benefit from the fact I got two 8TB's for free?
Thank you very much for your video. Can I use a surveillance as an external storage HDD? I mean I use the HDD mainly for storing data so I just sometimes copy data from my laptop and paste the data in the HDD for storage and sometimes I copy some data from the HDD and paste to my laptop/desktop. Thanks for your expertise. (A surveillance HDD is much cheaper than a HDD for desktop computers)
What are the best drives for media I want to fill the drive with once and play day after day? Watching shows to go to sleep with for 1 to 4 hrs at a time. The red drives are 5200 the purple drives are 7200.
Ugh I like tech stuff, but I'm only amateur and there are all these different setups and acronyms. Things are always changing; it can be hard to keep up with if your not immersed in it all the time. Until I started looking to get a new internal drive for desktop, I'd never heard of NAS. lol
What about if you are just using it for purely backup (like mac time machine) where you will almost never access them to read, except in emergency to retreive lost data?
So what would your recommendations be. I have 2 2t wd red and I just spotted one incredibly cheap 2t wd purple. Can I safely add this to my nas.? I don't do any surveil camera. Thanks anyone for your reply
Yes, surveillance grade HDD's do sequential writes a whole lot better than nas grade HDD's. But do we really get to see the difference in the real world? As I am curious myself.
youre totally missing the obvious conclusion that the so called surveillance drives, are perfect for backup nas systems, benefiting from the higher write speeds. Particularly in a raid 5 array which inherently suffers from a massive write penalty due to parity maintenance. Id even go as far as saying the surveillance drives are the better choice for general purpose nas systems, due to their superior write speed capabilities. While read speeds are pretty high by default in any configuration on any disk type, write speeds vary a lot and suffer under most raid configurations. The benefit from a few IOPS more read on a WD RED or Seagate IronWolf, is negligible in comparison to the higher write speeds you get from a surveillance drive. Im puzzled how that idea never crossed your mind, with the experience you supposedly have.
So what would your recommendations be. I have 2 2t wd red and I just spotted one incredibly cheap 2t wd purple. Can I safely add this to my nas.? I don't do any surveil camera. Thanks anyone for your reply
It DOES NOT matter because you should put your recent (1 month) material on SSD and then migrate old surveillance files to *any* HDD. How many times or number of people will look/use the month old footage??
I’d appreciate you talked slower for us that are not English native speakers! Because I mostly couldn’t understand what you said but it looked really interesting
I find NAS drives more expensive than surveillance HDDs so I thought we'd just have to buy the ones that cost more ...
you forgot one point - the Price
I went for Purple, cause it was cheaper by far than Red Plus. (Red is CMR which sucks).
111€ vs 137€ makes the decision EASY.
Are you using it in a NAS storage environment? Mine just failed a couple of weeks ago. I used a 2TB WD purple as a hypervisor drive. Died within a year, to be fair I got it 2nd hand and very cheap for the price as well.
@@itpugil 2nd hand HDD lol. bad idea. also, most NAS cases suck major D cause bad airflow tight and plastic. I dont use it in NAS per se, I put it in a small PC that I can use as mediacenter, backup gaming PC, and NAS at the same time. and good airflow as well for a 50€ case with 3 fans. from Sharkoon
@@crazyrussianbot8012 I've got mine as a proxmox server in a mini itx form factor. Just deciding whether it's a good idea to use it as a file server where people can stream off to(the movie files are on a different HGST 1TB hard drive), but I am also running 5 containers and 1 KVM. So wondering if its a good idea to turn to skyhawks seeing that they're more available and a lot cheaper than ironwolves.
Excellent content - real life use examples are wonderful!
I know this video is old but what if you are using your nas for saving file's like photos with the occasional looking back to find particular photos or files which would be the better choice
Interesting the part you say having 2 separate raids loads the CPU. Say you want to add another pool in TrueNas. So you have one red pool and one purple pool. Is this notable in the CPU Let's put an Intel N100 as a reference to have a low bar.
Thank you, it help me when decide between those type. I choose the wd purple for my NAS because my case just light use for data backup.
Thanks for the feedback dude!
Thank you for this, amazing info on HD
It's HDD, NOT HD! (HARD DISC DRIVE)
I find it amazing how people gobble up opinions as facts. If you want a true comparison, make a test read/write on a batch of, let's say, 50, 60 drives each and put up the results. I have looked up your "article" linked in the description. Same stuff. Don't get me started on the reliability charts or MTBF... I don't see any info on number of harddrives tested. Not to mention the fact that you compare percentages.., which have 0 value, as to the number of hdd's is taken from. Please learn not to rely that much on percentages for brand comparison, if the actual number is not the same.
I was 'gifted" two free Seagate Seakawk AI 8TB drives (before I bought any others) for my 2 bay NAS. No surveillance use is planned, just media storage and Plex. Is it worth the extra cost to replace them or can I get away with using them and benefit from the fact I got two 8TB's for free?
Thank you!
Thank you very much for your video. Can I use a surveillance as an external storage HDD? I mean I use the HDD mainly for storing data so I just sometimes copy data from my laptop and paste the data in the HDD for storage and sometimes I copy some data from the HDD and paste to my laptop/desktop. Thanks for your expertise. (A surveillance HDD is much cheaper than a HDD for desktop computers)
What are the best drives for media I want to fill the drive with once and play day after day? Watching shows to go to sleep with for 1 to 4 hrs at a time. The red drives are 5200 the purple drives are 7200.
Ugh I like tech stuff, but I'm only amateur and there are all these different setups and acronyms. Things are always changing; it can be hard to keep up with if your not immersed in it all the time. Until I started looking to get a new internal drive for desktop, I'd never heard of NAS. lol
Thanks...
What about if you are just using it for purely backup (like mac time machine) where you will almost never access them to read, except in emergency to retreive lost data?
So what would your recommendations be.
I have 2 2t wd red and I just spotted one incredibly cheap 2t wd purple.
Can I safely add this to my nas.?
I don't do any surveil camera.
Thanks anyone for your reply
what drive would you recommend for use in a directv genie for recording of HD TV shows?
are surveillance drives more geared towards sequential writes? what would be better for mass simultaneous downloading?
Yes, surveillance grade HDD's do sequential writes a whole lot better than nas grade HDD's. But do we really get to see the difference in the real world? As I am curious myself.
@@itpugil no you wouldnt. its marketing
best hard drives for long-term data storage?
64MB or 256MB cache HDD is better in a NVR?
youre totally missing the obvious conclusion that the so called surveillance drives, are perfect for backup nas systems, benefiting from the higher write speeds. Particularly in a raid 5 array which inherently suffers from a massive write penalty due to parity maintenance.
Id even go as far as saying the surveillance drives are the better choice for general purpose nas systems, due to their superior write speed capabilities. While read speeds are pretty high by default in any configuration on any disk type, write speeds vary a lot and suffer under most raid configurations.
The benefit from a few IOPS more read on a WD RED or Seagate IronWolf, is negligible in comparison to the higher write speeds you get from a surveillance drive.
Im puzzled how that idea never crossed your mind, with the experience you supposedly have.
yes, y thinkt the same, the surveillance units, are created to be robust, and be faster in writing, that is, for a backup NAS is more than obvious
So what would your recommendations be.
I have 2 2t wd red and I just spotted one incredibly cheap 2t wd purple.
Can I safely add this to my nas.?
I don't do any surveil camera.
Thanks anyone for your reply
@@chimalozie purples are prefect for nas
Seagate SkyHawk 6TB 7200RPM SATA-III 256MB VS Seagate IronWolf 6TB SATA-III 7200RPM 256MB Please.
@Joe Shabidu planning to get a 4tb skyhawk for NAS and a virtual server environment, will it cut it?
Can u pls speak quite slowly bcoz m facing issue in understanding of prounceation
I am not an english native speaker. I understand 100% of what this dude sais. What's wrong with you lol?
It DOES NOT matter because you should put your recent (1 month) material on SSD and then migrate old surveillance files to *any* HDD.
How many times or number of people will look/use the month old footage??
never buy wd... its the 1 rule you need to abide by..... because its all SMR..... unless you want to pay the WD tax for the pro versions...
I don’t understand this guy’s accent
It's British mate. Start watching BBC, so your ears can attune to this original source of English.