Can a SOHC D Series 90hp CRX be fun on the track?
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#crxSI #sohc #asrsuperlap
Driving a slow car fast is how you build and demonstrate driver skill. First mod is always the driver mod. It's not about hp it's about learning how to take lines, when/how to roll into the brakes/throttle, when to shift or hold gear, finding the limits, and getting comfortable. - Also, It's a good platform to learn on since it's not enough power to get into trouble and it's inherently forgiving.
perfectly said. when it comes to learning about driving and tuning it all start from stock and low hp cars. you learn the car character as well as lines and master those smooth heel toe down shift. upgrade power and and tuning suspension slowly as you progress with driver experience. thats how you master driving and understand what part of suspension to tune on each track you drive. you well also know how much max hp a car will maximize on each track too. then when you race for pinks xD
And that my friend is why any honda,is the best honda
I completely agree, Civics are perfect learning platforms for both driving and building. If you take it to its limit and something breaks, it's usually a pretty cheap fix compared to most cars so it doesn't scare you away from pushing it hard. Then if you ever want to increase the power, Honda's engines can take it in stride. There are even videos from the Nurburgring where Hondas with around 200hp beat Porsches and BMWs, all due to the good ole driver mod. It certainly pays off to learn in a low HP Honda.
@@ben-7403 trying to get my 96 prelude stripped out and then hit willow springs
@@ben-7403 Well, keep in mind, Hondas aren't race cars and in order to get racecar like performance you have to put in a lot more than you would with other platforms. They are a good starting point option but there's many good reasons people "grow up" and switch as their skill/budget allows. The lightweight 5G and earlier models do offer a lot for learning though and the low budget makes them accessible which by itself can be a huge thing.
In today's age of you gotta make 900whp to have content, I really enjoyed this since It is more about the essence of driving than just making numbers.
I hear ya man, I feel the same! 👍
Just a little pointer. When the back steps out at corner exit don't get off the throttle, you'll just unload the rear more. Stay on the throttle and steer where you want to go. FWD will pull you out of it.
Good pointer, thanks Mikael!
“It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast then a fast car slow.”
The ONLY people who wouldn’t think 90 hp can be fun in a small car like this are people who have never driven on a track and aren’t true enthusiasts!
Preach bro
True but the most ppl that day "this car sucks & all that shit they are ppl that dont even have a car just kids behind laptops watching UA-cam & talking shit
Eh fast cars are good in the areas they succeed in, but most people I talk to prefer driving a slower car because it paces the driver and teaches you control of your gears and learning to maximize the most of each gear
I had several D series engines. They are great running motors and can take a beating. I seen one with 200k Mi take several shots of nitro and still ran like a champ.
The power bands on a Honda engine is amazing.
Yes sir! I know a guy drove a 86 CRX SI with only suspension mod to get his SCCA license beat the track record at thunderhill in the mid-90s
I say yes, learning to drive at that power will help in honing abilities.
I had a ton of fun running with you guys in my 90 hp SOHC D Series. A little too much fun as you know haha
Hoping you'll make it down again one day. Or I'll be able to travel to join you!!
I've got the d17a2 and I'm always saying it's a fun as hell car. Definitely not comparable to a larger displacement vehicle but if you run the right lines you wont need all that extra power to an extent. I prefer suspension work over just adding power to a stock chassis
I had an 89 crx si with a D16z6...worked...new pistons .rods.ported..it was fun every where
I love this car, CRX for life!
Me too! #EF4L
Question: can a 90hp crux be fun on the track....Answer: Yes
You know it!
No doubt!
"Can a SOHC D Series 90hp CRX be fun on the track?" hell yeah, Jon...Lol. I had a little D16Y8 and that was a ton of fun.
The d16y8 is the B16A of the D series engines. It loves to rev it comes alive at vtec and it has absolutely no torque at all. It's great lol just never loose that powerband.
@@BoostedPastime so true, man.
Boosted Fool so is the z6 the b18c? Lol jk
@@BoostedPastime I had D16z6 and D16y8.. I prefer the first one, Vtec kicked stronger.
@@ddb7408 I've heard that myself but never felt it
120 hp crx just won the Honda challenge in so cal this weekend against integras and civics you don’t need a lot of power to party and the best mod is always driver mod
Thank you for filming this video GBH. I get teased relentlessly about my EF's barely above stock 99hp lmao
Anytime buddy! 👍
Considering my stock d16y8 made 114whp when its rated at 128bhp I would assume that the non Si EFs output between 70-90whp.
@@BoostedPastime Notice above comment, "Barely above stock". This infers that there are existing upgrades done, which there are to add 9hp. That isn't exactly hard to crank out with decent cams, CAI, straight pipe, headers, etc.
I think you did a great job of carrying momentum.
I love how the A6 sounds! It’s still a good motor for what it is!
I dont see how this question is even being asked. any car is fun at the track. you dont have to own a m3, s2000 or dedicated track car to be an enthusiast. Everyones situation is different. Some people only have 1 car and the camry or ford fusion is the car they can afford and is required for their family. Anyone making fun of you pulling up to the track in what ever car it may be is either ignorant or too young and stupid to realize that not every one has the luxury to spend endless amounts of money for their hobby. Best part about going to the track is talking to other people and learning how to take lines in different set ups. each and every car how ever it is set up requires to be driven differently. true enthusiasts would be passionate about learning and sharing their knowledge with other enthusiasts.
I'm on your side buddy, I agree! Let's go have fun!
D16 is one of tge best builds you can do. Not the fastest, but you can do so much to it for cheap, and it is super easy to work on.
It's always fun to drive a slow car fast, especially if it's a small car like older civics and Integras.
Can a D series be fun? Hell yes! Especially on the track. Always love your videos, and your cars man! I just recently picked up a CRX for cheap and I plan to do a motor swap, and you made me want to start my own channel here on UA-cam documenting it. I would love to talk to you and pick your brain about some things if you wouldn’t mind! Stay safe out there my man 👍🏻
Any questions you got leave me comments here!
My 2018 Impreza isn’t fast by any means but on the gravel roads it really comes alive. Like the saying goes, it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a fast car slow.
I love this video perfect example don’t need a fast car to have fun I have more fun in my 98 civic than I do anything it’s the road not far from my house it curves a lot it’s like a s curve I got 60-70 -around there car rubs like hell since it’s a bit lowered but the way the car feels around those curves are great you can have all the power you want comes down to the driver the only mods I have done to my d16y8 is a cold air intake straight pipe exhaust to a dc sports muffler and 4-2-1 header with down pipe that’s it
Happy to see another one of your videos! I tracked a d16z6 back in the day in my eg hatch, super fun!
Nice!!
Never tracked it, but I spent many Saturday nights on twisty mountain roads in my SiR. Definitely fun.
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ek sedan SiR?
@@hondacivic2295 No EF8 CRX SiR
Ask the guy who did a sub 10 minute lap at the Nurburgring with a Citroen AX 1.4 diesel (53hp)
How
Nice! That’s more driver related them hp related.
Those are some serious times, i drove the nürburgring sunday the 13/10/2019 and damn you need some serious skill
Dont pull the ebrake after you have done a session youre gonna weld ur hot pads to the disc
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NEVER would've thought about that, THANKS!! 👏👍👌
Wait what? E brake is a separate system and it doesn't pull the pads to the disc... At least not in the older cars... Am I missing something here?
Filip Kokol im pretty sure that the e brake uses the rear brakes to stop the car from moving.
@@Gaby3Gonz Not really, there's a system similar to drum brakes, but smaller and it's right next to the discs in the back...
Anything can be fast with a good driver, but the CRX is in another league.
It weighs as much as a thimble, has a super short wheelbase (twitchier, more responsive), and only really needs good tires to get major results. If I had the space, by gum I'd get one to start getting results at the track I go to.
The most exciting part is you sliding. I'll make sure to click those links
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It's all in the gearbox. My first car was a civic ef with the d14 dual carb. The S20 gearbox and 200/560 slicks made wonders
Yes sir. Track time is fun in anything if it is built right!
"gotta warm it up for at least 1 lap" *revs immediately to 6k on cold engine*
They’re talking about warming up the tires not the motor. 1:22 he starts warming them up
@@Jason56B he went to 6k and not even the water temp gauge was on warm
99Lezard99 ok but your comment quoting them “gotta warm it up for at least 1 lap” was referring to the tires not engine temp. Warming up tires on a track you kinda need to pick up a little speed and turn side to side which is probably why he revved it that high. Its a cold motor who cares its just a STOCK sohc
@@Jason56B im aware of the tire warming. but even if its only a tiny d-series, it wont last long when its treated like that. i have enough mechanical sympathy not to do that.
Jayboyyy they’re acting like this Honda has a turbo strapped to it lmao
Great work guys. Can't wait to see more.
Thank you!
Too bad car manufacturers don't make cars like this anymore. I'm so glad I got in when I can and bought myself a crx. It is the 1.5x so it has the dual carb in it but I have major plans for the car in the future. I was checking out the Japanese auctions and a clean SiR is fetching almost 50k Australian after compliance, such crazy money these days for JDM cars.
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4:09 check engine light came on.
O2 sensor isn't hooked up. Good eye! 😁
yes absolutely
Always!
Anything on a track can be fun.
Can’t wait to get out there with you guys. 🤙🏼
Me too man, the more the merrier!
the slop in that shifter is killing me
Haha, the shifter selector on the transmission is very worn out.
Pretty much any car at any power level is fun on the track lol. Great video.
Agree!! Thanks buddy!
Easy answer. Yes. 😁
Is this even a question the CRX is one of the most slept on cars
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4:09 check engine light comes on 🤔🤔🤔
Good catch
I really enjoy your videos brother. I well like to chill whit you and talk.
Come on out and join us!
Yeah I'm still trying to get my Crx going. Hopefully for this next season I could chill with you guys.
I got one and it’s definitely fun on the road 😋
Heck yes!
To be fair, the A6s have been proven to be little beasts with some ignition timing thrown at it along with a really good set of headers like DC. When I had my 91 Si I would beat Z6s and Y8s in Mexico all the time 😁
a6's are bulletproof
Great driving! But may I suggest something? When down shifting, rev the car a bit higher instead of just barely revving it and letting the clutch out slowly. It gives you a smoother downshift and allows a little better control in my opinion. I'm sure you knew this but for someone just learning this might have helped
I tried, but wasn't great with his car. I'm still not that great at heel/toe anyway yet. Thanks for the tip! 👍
@@GarageBuiltHondas it definitely takes some practice for sure! And heel toe is the dream man, I just rev match for now lol! Just rev it a bit higher and let the clutch out quicker! I for sure enjoyed this video no doubt, it truly shows everyone how much fun you can have in a low power car! Props on this one man! Keep up the good work!!
@@GarageBuiltHondas it definitely takes some practice for sure! And heel toe is the dream man, I just rev match for now lol! Just rev it a bit higher and let the clutch out quicker! I for sure enjoyed this video no doubt, it truly shows everyone how much fun you can have in a low power car! Props on this one man! Keep up the good work!!
Once I get another daily driver (but a legit apartment first 🤦🏾♂️) I want to make my Matrix XRS into a fun reliable trackday ride. Never selling it ever, I put tooo much time into this car, including a fresh jdm 2ZZ motor swap..
Lol, having a place to live is a smart first step. 😁
Ever tried a dual point? We need an update on that.. Haha I haven't heard of anyone.... salute to the MAN!
I haven't, but Matt brings out his dpfi sedan. It's pretty darn slow. 😁
Dual point is awful my old hatch had it a d it would flood like a carburetor somedays
Damn that looked fun!!!
Crazy how fun a low HP car can be!
That could have been me but I’m playing.
Hahahahaha
Absolutely it can, it wont be fast and it will lack allot of adrenaline but any EF is fun especially the hatch. I drove an 88 Civic Std. Hatchback and it was still fun being 90hp and 4spd it was just a slow speed back roads touge type of car. My 91 DX was much better but still roughly as slow but it was all good fun. 90hp Honda is better than no Honda lol.
I need a CRX in my life.
I agree
@@GarageBuiltHondas Only thing is they're fetching close to £10k here in England :(
@@yorkie4k what about ef hatches?
@@jakenothanks307 even harder to find
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Love the vids GbH, hopefully see you out at the next event. Will your ef be done by then?
Thanks Zack, glad you've been making it out lately!!
I have a 2nd one I'm working on, and hoping to have it possibly there in November. My regular one probably won't be out until March again. 👍
Looks fun.
Tons man!
I'm 100% biased, but all CRXs are fun, just the way they rolled out of the factory. You have to make the distinction between "fun" and "fast"- they can be the same thing, but they aren't always- but in terms of "fun," my '87 DX was the funnest car I've ever driven. I've had second gens too, but she was "the one". And yes I know DX wasn't an official factory designation for the CRX in 1987. Thanks. I just mean, "not the Si, and not the HF." Anyway, what makes the CRX awesome isn't how fast you can go, Honda made a lot of cars that are faster, and Hondas aren't super fast cars anyway, no matter what you do to them. What makes a CRX awesome is how fast you can be going through a 70-75 degree corner before it even occurs to you that you should have your foot near the brake!
Well said Dinka! 👏
Looks bumpy but fun as hell. :]
You're right, we have a couple bumpy areas on that track, the helmet cam doesn't help either. Lol
Got to get a short shifter for that long shift lever.
He needs snifter bushings. It's very sloppy. It's a common problem with Honda's of this era. You can get polyurethane shifter bushings.
90 Hornet Power is still nothing to sneeze at in such a light car.
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Sure it'll be fun
Even if its stock with the VTEC
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Did he throw a check engine light at 4:08
I have a crx with the D16A9 with 130 HP. It's a beautiful piece of art!!
One question to everyone in this video, anyone knows if the 130HP version is VTEC? no joking, i can't find info and Wikipedia says that no, but i've seen so many people selling this version and saying that is VTEC. #CRX4LIFE
It can be although the VTEC heads are becoming diamonds by now, everyone has either run through them or they're in storage not for sale. Same with the A6 VTEC heads in the States. Good luck figuring it out.
Z6 or y8 intake manifold 60 mm throttle 18 degrees timing advance 93 octane and full exhaust should net 120whp
Thanks for the tip! 👍
I plan to rebuild the suspension on my 02 civic I actually enjoy the handling characteristics it has. I have a staggered wheel setup front 205 40 17 rear 205 50 17 it helps load the front a bit more but also adds a bit of oversteer hints. I found 32psi front and 36psi rear and I cannot generally kick the back out unless I'm really trying and have full grip in the front when cornering. I was wondering is a sub $600 coilover with dampener adjustment better or worse than a strut setup with 2 inch lowering springs. Also very interested in doing an eibach sway bar kit
I don't think lowering springs are superior for better handling. They are softer and more comfy but I prefer coilovers with adjustability and a stiffer spring.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I plan to get coilovers and okay good to know what others prefer
wish i could join you with my eg3 too bad am from another country.
I do too. That's too bad!
Spun out like that racing a Miata, clipped a pothole and went backwards into a guys driveway, that guy wasn’t even mad, he said he was impressed that my civic was even moving that fast(sedan and d16y8), didn’t even get mad or call the cops, but every time I go past now he sits out and watches, d16y8’s are good reliable engines but if you ain’t above 4500 you ain’t doing nothing
Joined Garage Build Honda's Off Roading Team 🙌😀😂
Lmao, I couldn't leave my homies out there by themselves!
@@GarageBuiltHondas Welcome to the Team Jon LMAO
Sure its fun and I owned a 6th gen with D16Y8 and I love when hit that VTEC at 6,000RPM but things changed when get gapped by a Honda Odyssey with stock K20 motor and automatic 😒
Hehehe
Good friend 🤣
Big time!!
Low hp car is more fun track car. You can actually push it more.
Amen!
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Lol! Good times!
wow nice video
Thanks
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My civic has been down for about 1 year and thinking about getting it repaired I need some inspiration to see if it’s really worth it.
It can be tough. Sell it if you're sick of it.
I came to the conclusion of fixing it… thanks for the reply brother!
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Looks cool, but you need to work on those downshifts
Agreed.
Where is this track? I'm in west Texas and would love to know. Thanks.
Arroyo Seco Raceway in Akela Flats, NM. Come join us! Where in TX are you?
Hey guys i am ur new subscriber i have a same car civic 89 and i love it . . . And i want my car like urs to swap the bwtter faster engin .
Thanks for being here!! Hoping you can get some work done on your car.
@@GarageBuiltHondas ya show man i am starting this project know and want to beat the new cars with my old 89 model civic and i love my car . . .i need some help from u buddy suggest me the engin which is the best and successfull swap in our civic plz . . . Like b16 .1jz. 2jz .or toyota v8 .me i only know this engins if u know others kindly tell me brother . . .
Check engine said 😲
O2 not present. 👍
Lol that guy in the nsx was going super slow on the track.
He was, I think he might have been waiting for his buddy as he let us pass. I didn't see him going slow the rest of the day.
Prob feels like a fwd Miata
like a load of old ladies going to the store.
That's us.
What's the cost of building a car like this ? I would believe much cheaper. Please and thank you
The car was $1200 to begin with and has 270k miles on it but still runs strong. He has added some parts but you really wouldn't need much to track it. Good brakes, fresh fluids, and a tune-up would do the trick. The "upgrade" mods are up to you and your budget.
Why did the check engine light come on?
I don't remember.
Cool vid maybe my o8 civic can make 150 hp one day :[
I hear ya!!
Nice👌👌
Awe yes the boring, stock, front wheel drive gran turismo days
Whats that pink bar in the back called?
Strut tower bar or shock tower bar
What's the specs of the 2 crxs? (Interior, engine, exterior...)
Silver Crx here - ua-cam.com/video/oCHBx16_5JM/v-deo.html
Yellow crx here - ua-cam.com/video/6K6K2s2EpZ0/v-deo.html
Those shifter bushings are fucked bro.
what exhaust are you running?
This! ua-cam.com/video/wHa5KSEPXY0/v-deo.html
What's up with the giant stick shift?
Girls supposedly like it. 😃
@@GarageBuiltHondas I was wondering if it's easier to force it into gear with the extra leverage.
I want to tale my crx to a track.
Do it please!
How can the Pocket Rocket not be fun?
Agreed! 🙏
d16a6 with 90hp? what am i missing here bro? till 89 they had 105 then they all came with 108hp... right?
Lol, you're correct. But I'm talking about "actual" power at the wheels when taken to the Dyno. These A6 engines usually lay down between 85-90 HP. 👍
@@GarageBuiltHondas u sure? u prolly tried a few dead ones,lol iv seen them making 115/120 with just 421headers/ catless and that piece of plastic of the intake out, just the box with open mouth,lol
I've never seen a stock internal d16a6 make that much power.
@@GarageBuiltHondas whats up my dude? 8 months later u answer,lol... my a6 still breaking hearts around here :)
This is hard to ask, but since i live in europe,portugal, and have a usdm 1990 civic si i cant get any parts for it, only european models... i need the 6 side moldings... Can u go to a junkyard and get me the 6 moldings? i prefer pay to you a fair amount and the shipping than to pay like 100 for each one on ebay... its crazy... you can get them in the junkyard almost for free and i cant find any usdm model here... can u save me? my passenger side has 2 european moldings, and my door has the molding screwed, and i hate it... i dont need all 6 but oh well if i can get them ill buy them... can u take a day off and save my life? lol... all good for you. if ur ok with that can we talk on face or some other socialmedia?stay cool my dude.
The only ones i really need: driver door molding, and passenger side(door and back quarter panel) so its 3.
Maybe its easy for shipping and all of that i dont really need all 6 moldings...
I hope u can help me man i would really apreciate i fuking cant find a usdm model in a junkyard here and u know moldings are different...
Hope u can help me all the best for you!!
I haven't seen any EF hatchbacks at our local junkyards in over 2 years now. It's very rare that one will pop up and if they do they're usually in terrible shape.
Making me regret selling the y8 again lol.
I'm sure man. Can't let others tell you what to do, just do you!
Better question is which car is not fun on a track?
Very true!
So i just replaced my alternator and I tested my starter and it was good and I changed on my main relay. When I try to try to go start my car all the dash lights show up and everything's good when I go to start it it just clicks. I sent you a video on instagram @skids_eli_
Why were all these parts changed? Was it not starting before?
What track is that?
Arroyo Seco Raceway in New Mexico