Sig Sauer P220, P226, P227, P229 Short Reset Trigger Kit Install
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- UPDATE: I've got a new video with an even EASIER method of installing an SRT Kit! • #7: SRT Kit Easy Insta...
Steve walks you through installing a Short Reset Trigger Kit (SRT) in a Sig Sauer P220, and shows the "before and after" difference using a P226 with the SRT kit already installed. UPDATE: At 17:24, I promised to come back later and discuss the sear pin re-assembly position... and forgot. The pin should be centered in the frame so that it's slightly recessed and not quite flush on BOTH sides of the frame (the pin is slightly shorter than the width of the frame). If you push in the sear pin too far from either side, you'll notice right away when you re-install the slide because the slide will hit the pin because it's sticking out a bit too far.
As a Certified Sig Armorer I love going around and checking out these types of vids. Bro you have a natural gift for educational videos. I really like how you go over the things that can go wrong or fall out and say, "not to panic, it can go back in!"
Great job staying in focus and great information. I just subscribed ;^)
ExiledSW Thanks so much! How very kind of you to say. Thanks for subscribing! :)
I agree one-hundred percent. That kind of reassurance makes a project like this far less daunting. Bravo!
Steve if i have a older p226 without the rail what are my light options? Or i don't have any.
Excellent video. Can't say it any better than ExiledSW did. Thanks for your efforts.
I agree not to panic there have been many a time when i walk away get a cup of coffee, go outside and enjoy the scenery for a bit and go back in and install the part. .
I have a German made 220 and the pistol would not decock with the old style decocking lever. There is a very slight difference in the height of the tab that contacts the sear on the new decocking lever. The new sear has a cut milled in the decocker side shoulder and the old lever isn't quite tall enough to lift the sear and decock the pistol. The old lever does slightly touch the new sear, and in some cases I suspect it may be enough to initiate a decock, thereby explaining why some folks don't end up having to use the new lever. It's a great video and I very much appreciate the time and effort you put into it.
100% correct
My kit arrived today from Midway USA. Genuine Sig Sauer parts.
I disconnected the hammer spring because it felt like there was pressure on the sear pin.
It installed with ease and the difference in the reset function is staggering. What an improvement. Hardly any take-up in the reset and the single action pull.
Thanks for the video-it helped.
Steve, thanks to you and another UA-cam channel, I was able to complete my own trigger upgrades and now have a sweet DA/SA trigger on my P229. You helped so much with the SRT install and the other channel showed me where to polish parts to smooth the pull out. I also replaced the hammer spring with a 19lb Wolff spring, just wish I had a tester like yours to see where the pull sits now. The toughest part was getting that dang hammer spring base to sit right. Thank you so much for making this video to help us keep costs down. Instead of spending $125 plus shipping both ways, I only spent $54 for the SRT kit and the hammer spring and have a trigger I totally love. Thanks again.
Steve, thanks so much for taking the time to make this incredibly detailed video. It made the installation a lot easier, and definitely more fun. I did the upgrade on a new P220 Elite that I bought this past spring, which already had the new and improved de-cocker. I still opted to put on the one that came with the kit. After struggling to get the new sear in place, I dug out a very handy tool that I forgot I had--a set of long, precision lighted tweezers that I bought at Lowe's. I got the sear in position in a few seconds. Once the gun was completely reassembled, the results were even better than I expected. In single action mode, the reset distance had been reduced by at least half! There was no play in the trigger whatsoever. I don't have the device to measure the weight of the pull, but because of the success of the install, it's a moot point. I can't wait to take it to the range. The excellent quality of this video made it a godsend for me. Thanks again!
Thanks, +Bill Knudson. So glad it helped. Enjoy your crisp follow-up shots! :)
Steve, I used your video to install an SRT kit in my 87 p220. With your help, it was very easy and had no hiccups. I did find that the new decocker would make contact and the old one never did, so I stayed with the original. Very informative and easy to follow! Thank You!!
Thanks Steve, I put a SRT kit in my P226 while watching your video. The only hiccup was my ejector fell out in the process and I had to figure that out. It's all back together and works great. My P220 will be next.
Good video, I appreciate the detail in what is probably the only "hard" part of re-assembling any Sig - the sear assembly, and your doing it with big fingers. Good job!
James Monroe Glad it was helpful! :)
Great video Steve, close ups, clear speaking (no "ahh, you know what I mean, blah -blah, war stories).!!!! Thank you so much for taking the time.!!!
I just installed this kit on two of my Sig P229 pistols. Thanks for the tutorial, and the kit makes a HUGE difference!
The reason for the new decocker is because the old stlye wont decock the hammer if just the kit itself is installed. I did just the kit and thats what I found. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Steve. Outstanding. I just did the SRT kit on my P220 in about 15 minutes thanks to your video. Liked/subbed.
Steve- Thanks for the tutorial on all of this. FYI for others with a P220 SAO. The safety lever needed is different than the "key piece
that comes in that kit you use. I have both a P220 .45 ACP and 10 mm. Both are SAO. the 45 came with SRT kit and straight trigger from factory. The 10 mm came with std sear and safety lever. I took the 45 apart to see the differences.
There are 2 parts that look to be different
1) already state the safety lever, a forum I go to says it is p/n 1202088-R
2) the trigger bar also appears to be different as well. Having a tough time finding p/n on this one. I do have a guess but don't want to add this one until I confirm its the right one. Sig Sauer site shows parts break down for a DA/SA but not the SAO. This adds to the difficulty in part number searching.
*)Last thing. I found that putting that SAO specfic safety level back in first but with SRT sear very close by in the frame was easier to get it in place. I found if i put sear in first that the lower little lip on the safety lever made it hard to insert. After switching the order, it was much easier.
Thanks for all of your videos.
Great video. I just used it to put a SRT in my 40 cal 226. It took longer to clean up the gun than it did to install the kit. Thank you.
David Monson Nice! Thanks for watching!
I put this in my two tone P220. I didn't want to use the black decocker, so kept my silver one. The decocker would not work as the geometry on it is wrong for the new parts. Black one in, works like a charm! Also the new black decocker has clearance problems with my Hogue grips, so I had to "modify" them till my new grips get in. Thanks for the video!
Hello Steve wanted to tank you for this video just did the SRT kit on mi 1982 Weste German P220 just followed you video and got it right on. Im not and armorer I can work some with guns, motorcycles and car si it was a challenge but with you explanation it was a walk in the part. It works perfectly on my old P220 with the older hammer style and trigger spring with mag release on the bottom. Great job keep it up!
Love your videos and decided to get he 220 Kit for my P226 just so I could get the decocking lever to avoid continuous finish/frame damage from a decock snap. Bought the whole kit vs. just the lever and... FAIL. There are many geometric differences between the 220 and 226 lever. The hump is one but there are many more. The overall height distance between the pivot hole and the top edge of the lever results in the piece not even being seatable to the frame. Even if it could, the tab that extends into the pistol is shorter and will not likely engage the 226 hammer release, it is also a bit higher in position. In addition to this, differences that would not likely impact function exist. The control itself is a different shape being larger and extrudes from the frame a tad more. The "hook" is also shaped differently. Recommend you annotate that part on your video so others don't make the investment on a 220 decocker to avoid frame wear/damage like I did.
Excellent ! You are a very good instructor/speaker. You made it interesting and fun. Now if only I can replicate your dexterity.
+Jay Harvey Thanks! I actually shot an updated video yesterday, where I use a magnet to help place the sear. The process now takes maybe 5 minutes! I'll post a link from here when it's uploaded.
A great instructional video how ever when explaining the trigger bar I was really confused (not hard to do) in trying to get the trigger bar over the srt plug it looked like one had to pry the trigger bar up and over the srt plug but after hours of working with it I finally figured it out and by going by your rule (do not force) I just went ahead and reassembled and it worked, and I must say by far this is the best video on this subject I have watched. Keep up the good work.
Def look up the q-tip way to do it. It will make that whole process 110 times easier. thanks for the video
Yea, once you break it in more the pull will be slightly lighter! I also switched my hammer spring to a 16lb, DA way lighter, SA about 3.25lb pull. No light strikes yet!
Great video, thanks. Small PSA for those who view the comments here; I tried installing this kit on a brand new 220 Combat, and found that the original sear trip protrusion (it's on the safety lever on the original, rather than on the sear, as with the new kit) engaged with the trigger bar well, but the SRT sear trip protrusion is just a bit shorter than the original, and it doesn't reliably engage. The thing is, it works fine without a magazine installed, but with a magazine present, typically the sear won't trip, as the bar slides past it. Talked to SIG and they indicated it should work; I'll need to send it in to figure out why the SRT sear doesn't work in mine.
Sorry to hear that, Allan. Please update us as to what you find! It SHOULD work just fine on a 220 Combat.
Yep, that's what SIG CS said. My suspicion is that the trigger bar, being a stamped part, is perhaps just a bit out of normal spec on mine -- not so much that the factory parts don't work, but just enough so that the shorter trip protrusion on the SRT doesn't quite make enough contact.
Then if that's the case, I'd guess your gun will come back with a new trigger bar. :)
Thank you so much. The install on my P220 Combat was completed without cursing! This video is awesome! Also, the stock decocking lever on my P220 Combat looks exactly like the one the comes with the SRT kit, so I did not replace it. The trigger bar spring is the same as the one on your P220.
Never had something so well explainned, thank you. ...
Awesome video. Only took Sig years to correct that decocker from slamming on the alloy frame. I use to hate that.
I just did my 229, thanks for the help.
I watched your video several times.
Thanks for the video. I just upgraded my Sig P239 (40S&W). What a difference. I’m gonna have to get used to firing this again. It’s definitely a shorter reset.
Thank you for the excellent video. It can be tough with all the small parts and weird angles of a 22X but I got this on the first try with your video.
ianarno Excellent! Great job! And do you like the difference in the reset?
I do. I never noticed in dry fire, but I'm most used to my Glock trigger so when the standard Sig trigger hit reset I found my self jerking the trigger and pulling a lot of my shots.
Thanks for the video. I'm going to be doing this to my 220 and 229 very shortly.
great video, brother. very clear and specific instructions! one thing, you can just pull the hammer down for the single action trigger pull. the double action pull and slide reciprocation is unnecessary. just an fyi :)
thanks again for the great video!
Thanks, Mario! And great tip. Old habit from being a Glock guy. ;)
Excellent video with lots of great tips and hints along the way. Thank you. I just traded a Glock 43 for a 1986 west German p220 from the original owner with case, 1 original zipper mag and 28rds of pd rounds and couldn't be happier. I'll definitely keep the parts as they are original but can't own this and not do this upgrade. I'm excited to go for it now thanks to you. Appreciate it
Did it. It worked great. Could not imagine doing it with out the magnet.
This may be the best instruction video I have ever watched. Great job.
Sig boys must really love you using a Glock tool on their guns. Great video. On the fence about buying a used P220 C at a great price but if I do, I'm installing this kit. Thanks!
In the Sig Armored school they teaches us to stick a q-tip in the wedge of the sear to put it back. That way you just float it in over the top. don't know if that explains it well enough but it's a lot easier
mtsfitness why do Sig void the warranty if I do this upgrade myself
When reassembling an older P220 it helps to have three hands.
thanks Steve, just used your video to install my kit. You helped me void my warranty
One change I made, sear install was very easy using a magnet to slide and hold in place, but a dental pick worked just as well, thanks for the info.
sevensixtwo nato LOL - gotta love voiding that warranty! :) And using a magnet is a great idea!
Steve Jenkins Keep your spare parts, how are they ever going to know if you put them back in if there was any issues? I all ways keep them around for that reason with anything I upgrade.
+Michael Carter Good call. I always keep the spare parts in the aftermarket parts' packaging so I can remember which gun they came off. :)
Thanks Steve for the tutorial... Awesome!!!! I can't wait until my 220 is upgraded...
Thanks a bunch Mr. Henkins! Can't wait to do this on my P220 Carry....Part of me almost wants to have it done for me but I'm not completely incompetent..lol
Thanks for the video. Just installed it. No problems. Can't wait to try it out tomorrow.
This was extremely helpful video man. Thanks so much. You did a great job and your explanations, tips and tricks just had me do this for the first time easily. Took me less than 15 minutes start to finish. Just subscribed.
Awesome instructional video, thanks! Followed you step by step to a successful install.
Very good job dude! Very straight forward....no problem with installation. I look forward to your future vids! 😃
Hey! im a swiss army scout sniper. Thats my site gun. im just upgrading my gun because of you :D thanks for the vid! probs! subscribed!
StreeZeR nonono. U dont want a heavy big gun u idiot sniper. Get you a glock 43 and 2 mags. If u need your pistol as a sniper u are fucked anyway. Just go with smal light g43 or xds45
Who knew Conan O'Brien was so into guns?
;-)
Great info, mucho gracias!
Excellent instructional video! Gives me the confidence that I could do it myself too. Thank you!
Thanks, JohnK060404 - that's EXACTLY what I want to hear. You CAN do it yourself! :)
Just installed SRT kit on West German p228 with your video and guidance. Thanks
Another good one is the HobbyistChannel pt 1&2
+T Gugs tweezers are helpful..
I will be installing a SRT in a new P229 soon and I think this will be helpful. On reading the trigger pull gauge, ounces are not tenths e.g. 4# 7.6 oz. is not 4.7 as stated in the audio, and 3# 13.9 oz is not 3.13.
Good catch. To get a decimal value, one needs to divide the ounces by 16. So 4# 7.7 oz is 4.5 #s rounding up to the tenths place.
Sig should just have the SRTs in all their guns by default, but they're deliberately holding back just to upcharge for it in "fancy" models.
Use a magnet like you use on cars with the telescopic handle to maneuver the sear up and into place.
Dude! Your videos are phenomenal (or however that's spelled) compared to everybody else's. I watched one guys and he did everything off camera! How does that help me, bro? lol
wow disassembled and reassembled my p229 elite and had extra parts. come to find out it had a trigger kit installed
Great video. Was helpful in my install on my 229.
Thanks for the tutorial. I just installed the SRT in my P229R and I can feel a huge difference. This install only took about 5 minutes and an allen wrench. My decocker actually feels lighter too. Not sure if that should bother me or not.
+PotzyMccoy Congrats on a successful install! The SRT is the #1 mod I recommend to any classic P-series Sig owner.
Great video, dropped a like. Will likely order this for my 226.
Hey Steve,
Great video! I noticed you have Hogue Over-Molded Rubber Grips on your Sig P226 MK25, which I just added to mine. How do you care for/maintain the rubber grips?
love Sig, LOVE your vid, thanks
You said we will get to setting the pin (one that holds the sear) in a minute, but never did; I was wanting to hear how you center or offset that pin, thanks
Hi, John. Darn it... you're absolutely right! I meant to come back and show that you should push the pin through so that it's centered and not quite flush on both sides of the frame (the pin is slightly shorter than the width of the frame). If you push it in too far from either side, you'll notice right away when you re-install the slide and catch the slide on the pin because it's sticking out a bit too far.
If you watch that portion of the video (at 17:22) you'll notice that when I press the pin into place, I use the fleshy part of my thumb to press it in from the left side -- and I press hard enough so that some skin from my thumb can enter the hole and press the pin slightly deeper than the outside edge of the frame (which results in the other end of the pin also being also just barely inside the frame). Sorry for not doing back and discussing it in the video, but I'll go add an annotation now to come check these comments. :) Thanks for catching that!
Awesome video but I wish you had a more lighter background the black gun on a black background makes it hard to sometimes see the part and where it goes other than that a great video!
Just a quick question? why not remove the breach block, trigger and trigger bar ()very easy parts to remove) before putting in the sear. It seems like without the trigger bar in the way the sear installation would be easier.
You speak and move a little bit too fast, but other than that this was a good video.
I have an older SIG P220, from approximately the mid-90s, and made in West Germany.
I installed a Grayguns SRT kit, which does not come with the new style decocker.
I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it, but after installing the parts and testing the decocker and the trigger reset before reassembling the firearm, I reassembled the firearm and the decocker would not function.
It quickly became obvious that it just was not traveling far enough and that was because it was hitting the grip just prior to functioning.
So I just had to take a file and shave down a little bit of that grip area to allow the decocker level to travel maybe a 16th of an inch further, if even that.
After that everything functions flawlessly.
Hello Steve. DO you know if the SRT kit will work in the older model P220 European without a hammer reset spring?
Awesome video, really helpful!
Awesome video! Thank you!
Thanks for the taking the time to make the video. Can you tell me what trigger gauge you're using?
Hi +Jeekinz. It's a Lyman: www.lymanproducts.com/lyman/tools/trigger-pull-gauge.php
You said..." Now let's check the double action", in fact that was the single action. Average was 5 lbs, you said "5 ounces". Enough to confuse some people. Great video otherwise but checking it from beginning to end before releasing it is important and well worth it.
Great video. Have a question. Got an SRT kit for my P220, but I'm also getting some Hogue rubber grips. Some added text info in the vid says that the included new decocker does not fit right with the Hogue grips. Can the SRT kit still work as intended with the original P220's decocker? Thanks.
Thanks, Fugettaboutit. Yes - the Hogue wrap-around grips interfere with the new decocker. However, it shouldn't be too much trouble to use a razor blade or utility knife to gently whittle down a little bit of the rubber in the "track" where the decocker fits, and I'm sure it will be fine. I switched plans and went for the E2 grips, which worked fine. But if you love the Hogues, I'm confident you can make it work without much effort. Lemme know how it goes!
Steve Jenkins Thanks much. I have the E2's and like them, but would just prefer a little wider backstrap, so I'm truing the Hogues. Is there something specific about the included decocker that only works with the SRT?
Edit: Just checked…the Decocker that came the gun is the exact same one that's included in the SRT kit, so either way I may have some contouring to do on the Hogues. Thanks again.
Steve Jenkins Ok, so just installed it (took all of five minutes…having some magnets handy definitely helps). Not only is the reset nicer, but that little extra 'hitch' in the single-action take-up as the lever lifts the firing pin safety plunger is gone too! Night and day better.
Add that to an 18-lb mainspring, and this P220 is super-smooth now! Can't wait to run some rounds through it, but even dry-firing I can tell that I'm staying on target better…even in double-action. Great instructions.
Nice video! Very helpful. One question tho, when I test the DA/SA on my 226, the slide locks when I rack it back for the reset. Any reason why that is?
Another great video!
Hey, do you know if the SRT kit will work in a P220 SAO? I have a 220 Match (not Super Match, although, I don't know the difference between the two!) SAO that has about 3/8" reset. I would like to bring it more into the range of my DA/SA SRT pistols.
Thanks!!
Another great instructional, Steve. Thank you. Anyone know of a good video on adjusting sear engagement to eliminate creep?
I looked at the video and have done 2 installations on the SRT ( P229 and P239). My uncle is going to do his but lives 2 states away so I won't be able to do his. I sent him the link to your video but have to ask a question. I looked at your video a few times and correct me if I am wrong but I think you forgot to put the ejector back in?
Steve, is that decocker with a hump from the 220 SRT Kit sold separately? My P226 Navy is already wearing the SRT kit but would love to change out the decocker as I already have a small chip on the frame.
Hi, ybrik5. I'm sure you can get that "humped" decocker from Sig, or from anywhere Sig parts are sold. I don't know the separate part number for it outside of the kit, however. Note that the humped one won't work with some aftermarket grips, so that that into account and make sure you test it properly after installation.
Job well done! Where can you get the SRT Kit for $20-$30? Every site seems to be selling for $50-$60. Also seems very hard to come by.
TrickMasterPC I think the prices have gone up a bit, but best prices are usually on MidwayUSA or TopGunSupply.
Safe to pull trigger without the slide? Frame is aluminum and when hammer hits it, it might crack.
Hi, ybrik5. Great question. You're right that frame is aluminum, but the striking surface of the hammer never makes contact with the frame, so there's no risk of it cracking when pulling the trigger. Testing like this (while you still have full access to the internals before putting the grips back on) is totally safe! :)
Very helpful! Thanks so much.
the sear pin on my P229 was very hard to take out and put back in. I tried both sides and they were both very hard. Had to use a rubber mallet and an Allen wrench (was using that to push it out) to get it back in. Is this normal?
Why doesn't sig offer this srt option from the factory? It seems to be a necessary up grade.
Where did you purchase your new decocker with the hump. I searched the web and could not find one.
Steve, Thanks for the awesome video. I was able to install my SRT on my sig no problem with your instructions. I have a question though. I am 99% positive that I have installed the kit correctly, but I still get about 1/4 inch or play on my trigger. I have a P220 Equinox, I was thinking maybe it's because it's the Equinox that it's not working the way it should, or maybe I did something wrong ? Anyhow I was hoping you may have some ideas that may help ?It would be greatly appreciated.
Hi, +Jeff Lee. It will be different with different guns and trigger combos. I wouldn't worry. 1/4 inch is probably not outside the "normal" range. Mine has a slight amount of movement (probably a bit less than 1/4 inch), but movement nonetheless. It's still a large improvement over the original.:) Go shoot that sweet P220! :)
Very helpful, thank you very much
Ihave a 226 which only fires in double Action has no decocking system. I want to instal a single action that will leave it double action and single action. Thanks Dom
+Dominic Kane You can send it to Sig and they can convert it for you. I believe it costs around $150.
Grate video man, can I do that with my Springfield too?
thanks this helped a lot
Has anyone had a problem with light firing pin strikes after installation of this kit? Particularly with DA
is that a us made stamped slide version?
You don't void your warranty by installing the kit yourself. You only void the warranty on damages to your gun that result from improperly installing it.
would this work on an SP2022?
Excelente explicación y muy buen vídeo saludos me suscribo
Can you link it up where you ordered the set so i can search it in Swiss Sites? Thanks allot!
I just installed this kit on my p226 and now I only have single action.. I pull the trigger. Nothing. Have to cock every shot.. idk what I did wrong. I did everything in the video
Hello Steve and SevenSixTwoNato,
I just ordered my SRT kit Sig Sauer License parts so how would the warranty be voided someone please explain...
ThaJack The "official" stance from Sig is that if someone other than a Sig Sauer armorer performs this work, the gun's warranty is void. Whether or not they will enforce that is another matter.
Will this work for a p228??
thanks for the vid
So... FYI this did not work on my gen1 sig p229.
do you think a lighter decocker spring is worth it?
I don't. The decocker spring doesn't affect trigger actuation at all.
Does this kit work on the 220R DAK?
I CAN NOT GET THAT DAM ADD , YOUR ADD, from blocking A QUARTER OF YOUR VIDEO, annoying as hell. But otherwise honestly, a pretty good video. Thanks, & Good voice for narrator or radio!
Excellent video, except, your lighting sucks. It would help if you had better lighting
Horrible. You couldn't even show where the trigger bar spring inserts. I don't know why you didn't think that was important.
Wondering why Sig even made the trigger with the large reset . Why not just made the trigger with no reset.