After Trump attack, will the US unite? | Ian Bremmer | Quick Take
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- I think that the divisions in the country are too deep, and the weaponization of the politics has come from inside the House. When you say that former President Trump is a dictator and you compare him to Hitler, then it is understandable that many people would view it as patriotic to do everything possible to stop him. And if it is true that Biden and the Democrats will destroy the country, and we'll have World War III, and the country will be gone if they're elected as Trump has said, then you have to do everything possible to stop them.
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Ian Bremmer's Quick Take: Hi, everybody. Ian Bremmer here and a quick take to kick off your week. Still talking very much about the United States, the elections, the assassination attempt on former President Trump. We now have the Republican National Convention kicking off in Milwaukee. And is it possible that anything good can come from this most tragic event and very close to a world changing event?
I wish I could say yes. I certainly was heartened to see in the initial hours after the attack that the president of the United States strongly condemned it, called for unity, a very nonpartisan statement, pulled down campaign ads and stopped with planned events for the president and vice president. This is no time to be campaigning. I saw the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, did the same in a statement that he made publicly a few hours later. And it's good to hear from former President Trump, that he is changing his speech and wants it to be a less divisive and a more unifying speech.
All of that sounds promising, and there is an opportunity here. But I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical. I think that the divisions in the country are too deep, and the weaponization and of the politics has come from inside the House. It's not from the Russians or the Iranians or the Chinese. It's from American citizens. And that's very likely to continue. When you say that former President Trump is a dictator and that if you elect him, the US will become a dictatorship, and you compare him to Hitler, then it is understandable that many people would view it as patriotic to do everything possible to stop him. If he is an existential threat to the country, then he must be stopped by all means. And if it is true that Biden and the Democrats will destroy the country, and we'll have World War III, and the country will be gone if they're elected as Trump has said, then you have to stop them. You have to do everything possible to stop them.
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Short answer, No. Long answer, Nooooooooooooooo.
Trump is a deeply flawed candidate.
Actually, Hell no
Unfortunately you are very correct it’s all gaslighting the right wants peace ! No doubt
Oh man... This is EXACTLY what I was going to post! I guess great minds think alike. 😁
Ian, that’s what you said before: Trump is the biggest threat to democracy. How come you’re criticizing this rhetoric now?!
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Yep
Can't people have a change of their POV? Would you rather have them stick with something they they now realize is a mistake? No theories is perfect under every circumstances
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Could he be afraid of a trumps presidency.
At which point did Rome know that it was falling?
It didn't until barbarians installed puppet emperors, which didn't work out well. It fell apart, and went to being individual countries they were before - something that would be really difficult given states weren't countries before the union and there are no natural barriers to prevent reconsolidating. Comparing America to Rome requires more analogous parallels than exists. Rome itself was reconsolidated under Papal States as new center of power with "exclusive God given right" to anoint the Kings, therefore create kingdoms across Christian world for another thousand years. Eastern Roman Empire was alive and well until 1450's. They were great at economy and trade that they neglected own military and outsourced state protection to sell-sword privateers armies. So you see - Wester Rome had great military which drained economy and man power due to expansions. Eastern Rome had great economy but no military. USA has both - great economy, great military and is not expanding into new geography - I don't see any risk of fall or any comparison to be made with the ancient Rome.
This is excellent analysis@@LazyGrayF0x
Really enjoyed reading through it. I should add some clarity however, that the question was rhetorical and not meant as a comparison of the two nations. But more so, to say would America know when its declining?
Spot on that we require far more parallels for a direct comparison. There really has never been a hegemony quite like the USA
@@Baruk107 understood… things get lost in translation on the web. In general you have a very good question. I am not sure personally if and when America has risen to greatness and how is that defined - people tend to give credence that we were great at some point without being able to explain it. One thing is certain - it fosters environment where ambitious capitalist minded risk takers succeed and sprout tentacles to other parts of the world - that propagates economic and cultural dominance. From what I read, it was tough for Henry Ford or Rockefeller to get a breakthrough, it was just as tough for Elon Musk - so that says nothing has changed. More people can vote now, though I am not sure its best thing because property owning and well educated dentist vote has same weight as GED homeless drug addict. Our living conditions, conveniences and product availability is greatest that’s ever been, but cost of living keeps rising while wages remain stagnant, we actually are making less on average than last year. If question is regarding political fall - hard to tell. Seems to me that there is a battle of the economic elites trying to sort out the landscape - some lost control, some gained control and all is played out in a political process. More Americans than ever are paying attention and participating in political process - that’s a good thing. Don’t know buddy, surely a lot is going on… but I don’t think we are falling, and shouldn’t so long as we keep reminding on government about who they work for, vote with our feet, and keep sending a message to corporations meddling in our political and cultural affairs by the way we spend our $. Too little chaos and there is too little opportunity. Too much chaos and there’s too much instability.
For democracy to flourish, there needs to be adherence to shared facts and truths. With Trump, shared facts and truths don't exist. Only what Trump wants and benefits himself is the truth. This is what makes him unfit.
Thoughtful and serious as usual. But, when someone is signaling that they are a would-be dictator or a would-be fascist or that they are an authoritarian how should you label them? You suggest that the application of those labels toward Trump is what provoked violence toward him. Surely you don't suggest that when an aspiring leader displays these undesirable qualities we remain silent. What is the appropriate response? If we can't forcefully denounce wrongheaded ideology when we see it, what else should we do? Do we tiptoe around those specific words searching for euphemisms? Do we avoid the topic altogether?
Well said!
Some reform and accountability can come from it. How has the head of the Secret Service not resigned in shame yet? how has the Secret Service not been held accountable for the destroyed text messages on January 6th?
What a stupid question.
Of course not.
God Bless you Ian. Thank you for the context and insights.
As long as the gap between capital groups and citizens is still there, there is much more anxiety and anger, no matter in USA or China.
Trying to convince either Left or Right to agree with the opposite political view will likely waste time. Finding and maximizing a common ground in the Center to share is the right strategy and hope.
The comparison to Hitler is not in their personalities, but under the circumstances under both came to power. Hitler was polarizing as well before he was eventually elected.
You have a loyal cult of people supported and encouraged by certain mass media outlets that have an entrenched set of beliefs and a world view that runs counter to and completely divorced from reality. How can that not lead to continued polarization!?
Oh my God he picks JD Vance and you want to talk about him unifying the country. Hahahahahahah
JD Vance compared him to Hitler! Give me a break!
Now JD Vance is his running mate. It’s now 1968 and Wallace for President and LeMay as VP.
As long as the investigations and legal actions are allowed to continue. If Trump or other Republicans stop all these investigations and legal actions then heck no. If Trump is re-elected and all the legal actions are just canceled Then heck no. Trump needs to be cleared by a reputable court and system.
What party said He’ll never leave the White House, how ironic.
there is a body of evidence that substantiates that
The politics of enemies, versus the politics of loyal opposition. 😔
Seriously? Will the U.S. unite? Do you still believe in the Easter Bunny, Ian? The bad stuff is just starting.
Who would the country unite behind? What would the country unite behind?
It is time to start understanding what the divided states of America means. Genuinely ~ what is the legal precedent and possibility for different states “choosing” democratically to elect different leaders across different states?
Thank you for sharing.
I must thank the YT algorithm god for introducing your channel as you are a breath of fresh air. Specially it’s so dangerous to speak truth to power In these dark days.
At least we get to live in interesting times. We can pray to our gods but they’d probably just laugh.
As a black american I have to say. Politcal violence is deeply ingrained in american culture and history. And many presidents supported the destruction and enslavemnet of people that are currently american citizens. Consider our perspectives on the danger if these issues. We lived it, and still are to this day. Trump IS like hitler, stalin, mousalini etc. Dont let, hope and bias blind you. Your an inteligent guy, who sees thegood in the world. I ask you to truly look at the big picture.
What a naive comment by Bremer ? Trump doesn't want to make peace with the opposition. He named VEEP pick before the civilian victim was even buried . So naive Ian !
Excellent Summary
Thank you.
While Trump isn’t as smart, brave, or ruthless as Hitler he definitely is another Mussolini.
How about Trump's followers? Those Heritage Foundation guys are uncaring and ruthless.
Even Hitler wasn't actually that smart. Like Trump, he had a visceral and instinctual ability to read people and manipulate them at the basest level. But he made multiple strategic blunders, especially when he let his own sociopathic tendencies overrule common sense (also Trump's weakness).
@@MB-xe8bb well that is the thing - it is a chicken and egg - What is not at all reported and I know for 100% fact is all this project 2025 stuff has been sitting on the shelves in republican think tanks in Washington for 30 or 40 years. That is fact because I read a lot of it - and it is part of what turned me so against republicans - I used to tell people who would listen - you don't know what these people want to do - they want to literally destroy the federal government - burn it to the ground - so they can build it back in their image - that is why they have always blew the deficit through the roof - it is always republicans that do that - they wanted to - they wanted to bankrupt the country - so that it is unsustainable - and then they will - do it over. That has been brewing - literally $ billions have been spent to do that for 50 years - I believe when they saw TRump nearly overturn an election he lost - they said - ok - now is the time to go all in . Because what would happen is if you got a George Bush - they would get elected - and then they would start bringing out those policy's - and they would say - are you crazy ? I can never get re-elected if i do that - so none of it has been attempted like this - but this maniac does not care - he just wants power - and he will do whatever can get him that - so he can steal - make no mistake - he is a not a republican = or a conservative - he is a cleptocrat first and foremost - that is what appeals to him about Putin and that is what he wants - his cut - just like a mafia boss - you have to kick up .
Ian, a little both-sidesy, no? "A democracy in crisis." 90% of which comes straight from Trump. No?
You have some of the WILDEST takes…. Why are you equivocating????
More and more Americans are leaving the US to live in other countries.
Not as many that want to live in this country , so why don't you leave and make room.
@@jhrusa8125 I already did. Many Americans that move to low cost countries either work remotely or are retired. Our US paychecks and pensions go a lot farther in countries like Panama, Mexico, and Argentina. One of the perks of living in another country is not having racist redneck neighbors. I am from Texas and we have a lot of racist redneck people unfortunately. Take into consideration that poor people that do not have any options left immigrate illegally to the US. Americans that move to other countries are usually middle to upper middle income.
Ian is getting sadder and more worried every day
Yeah, he sees the same polls as everyone else 😂 😂 😂
No.
Thank you for your video. In other democracies, the *majority* of the voters decides who is to lead. The College Electors in the US enable minority rule. I find that quasidemocractic. I think you should also discuss Project 2025 if you have not already done that.
USA’s exceptionalism comes home to roost and it has a banger.
How can we say trump is not a threat to democracy? When will smart people start speaking the truth? The “both side-isms” of this conversation is deeply frustrating.
Trump may not be calculating but he will seek power and immunity at any cost and any collateral. If the law, or the vote of the people, or civility gets in his way, he will attack it until his problem goes away. He is simply not a good-faith actor.
Biden's current Vegas betting odds are 13%.
Trump is at 70% and rising fast.
My comment "failed to post". If you're censoring comments, well, you've really lost credibility here.
I made a reasonable comment. Was deleted. Twice.
That's beginning to happen to me as well. I'm actually beginning to wonder if UA-cam's just not worth it anymore.
"Everybody that's watching this knows that." Yup. 😔
Wait, what? Putin isn't the only one to blame?
Ian! I'm proud to listen to your analysis and agree with your statement.
Doctor Zilman,Pennsylvania
If there is an authoritarian movement that threatens (what is left of US) democracy, then why does it follow that naming it and providing evidence of that fact is dangerous and wrong? That's a fallacy. That's like blaming those who opposed Orban's Fidesz and the abuses of power in Poland in the 2010s of being provocateurs of violence. They were not. When Trump and his ilk invite Victor Orban to speak at their events, and embrace him, we have good reason to point to the incipient authoritarianism in today's GOP and particularly its leader, Trump. I, personally, have objected to the inaccurate and, yes, incendiary rhetoric that equates Trump and Hitler. That is false. Orban is not Hitler. Putin is not Hitler. And both democrats and republicans have a bad habit of calling all enemies (e.g. Dems including Biden equating Hitler in '39 to Putin in '22) the "second coming of Hitler at the eve of WW2." It's a bipartisan trope; a lazy one; a dangerous one. The GOP has its own version constantly calling Dems "totalitarian, communist, woke socialists" invoking Stalinism, and using the word "Orwellian" to describe the Dems as a "Big Brother" party. Let's separate this kind of knee-jerk bs from the quite serious claim that the GOP is now openly promoting a form of authoritarianism which can be found in its own policy documents, speeches, adv ertisents, etc. As for the Dems, they're not very democratic either. They do not listen to the voters who didn't want Biden, they are very top down, their dangerous global policies both in Ukraine and Israel-Palestine really could escalate to nuclear international crisis under certain conditions. I hope not. But, my view is Representative Democracy in the age of Citizen's United, MAGA GOP, partisan SCOTUS, and an arrogant neo-conservative-like set of global policies among Dems and bi-partisan unconditional support for Israel, is already on life-support and fast fading. Trump/MAGA GOP is the most immediate threat in the domestic sphere; Biden's insanity on the global stage is equally reckless and dangerous, and could lead to conflicts nobody really wants to imagine. I don't see any healthy options. Anyone who thinks Biden is a man of "the people" is blind. Anyone who thinks Trump is not a dangerous, vengeance driven demagogue is equally blind.
9 minutes of pablum.
I don't know what country you were living in Mr. Bremmer but, flag waving or no, my country (the USA) was extremely divided!
America has a tremendous amount of work to do to become a full democracy again. Currently ranking at 29th place in the world and categorised as a "Flawed Democracy". Of the models that I have seen, America will have to vote for the Democrats if they want a "Democracy". Norway, Finland, Netherlands, New Zealand are great examples to follow. Former Soviet Republics of Estonia, Lithuania, and Lavia are working hard to become Full Democracies for the first time. Ukraine desperately wants to be a full Democracy for the firsst time as well. However, the U.S. is not that beacon of light anymore. America: choose wisely between Autocracy and Democracy.
Very true - we have intelligence analysts that study this sort of thing - for global security purposes - the US started throwing red flags in 2017, 2018
NO
Ian is worried 😟
Ian's analysis is always insightful, but his predictions are also quite often wrong. As soon as I hear he said " I don't believe that's where we're heading", I'm relieved because I know we are heading to a more peaceful, more democratic days 😂
man only knows to seed division, so NO
Well said. I strongly feel that unity will not
happen any time soon. So different to what I remember in the 1950s 60s
Bremmer, if you keep deleting clean posts of alternative opinions then just turn the comments off.
Ian: “Hi everybody, it’s Ian Bremmer”
Me after hitting pause: “No, this will not cause the country to unite.”
Unpause.
Here is a comprehensive documentary series on the Spanish Civil War that has lessons to teach us.
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no
I have been watching Ian since 2007. He has no principles, he changes his position when it suits his agenda.
Oh, I thought you were talking about Biden for a minute there.
@@networth9151 What a deeply intelligent remark (sarcasm). All you Republicans do is take your own sins and attribute them to Biden. Not everybody is as black-hearted and pyschopathic as you. Normal people are different.
He is an analyst -- he analyzes based on the latest information. He is not pushing an agenda. Not everybody is political. Remember there are investos that are making decisions about putting or not putting money into the US. They want analysis so they don't make a costly mistake.
maybe some but only for a moment, Only because it's in Trump's interest to seem reasonable and soften his image to draw more centerest to his side as we go through this election,
So insightful, I am so grateful.
You are known for your intelligence. But you seem to be reading the impact of this on the Dems incorrectly. I do agree that the idea that GOP and Dems will unite is happy talk (mostly from Dems). But I think it is plausible and close to even odds that Dems win White House. I agree that trump will not be the "end of democracy."
Sounds like tribal behaviour - them vs us - is it? Is there any common ground? Maybe independents can create some common ground. (From an on-looker).
Am I blocked by Ian?
Join the club. 🙄
Probably UA-cam.
@@MB-xe8bb Not sure. I got a post removed that didn't seem to violate any YT concerns although it was contrary to Bremmer's POV. Then I posted; "Who removed my post?" and that seems to have fallen in the trash. IF it was YT, then they have gone over-the-top.
Bremmer is too establishment, like he is looking for a job.
Did you bot see Jan. 6? Did you not hear trump mentioning he wantsvto be a dictator?
Spot on analysis
I didn't hear Joe Brandon say he is taking his "bull's-eye“ off President Trump.
The problem this guy, is that he is an egghead. He needs to look at the real world. He just reacts to the news.
Your insights are as always brilliant 👍
Negative.
No
Lol. You are biased and you don’t know it.
Thank you for information nice speech
Unite what exactly? Its just rhetoric, meaningless
HAS HELL FROZEN OVER???
Quick summary: no
Of course not. 😂
No😂😂😂😂
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nothing but the most rudimentary platitudes from this guy. ever
Ian, If you want the country to come together than you can do your part by stop putting spotlight on GOP misdeeds and pussy foot around Dems lies and hypocrisies. I respect your perspectives but it is getting so obvious to many that you constantly go out of your way to protect the Dems by willful omissions. You don't have to tell people you are non-partisan if you act the part.
No
No
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