Why is Frankenstein's Monster Green? | An Exploration into the Monster's Appearance
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2019
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Having Frankenstein’s Monster be green is a no brainer but why do we specifically attribute that color to a black and white film? You’ll be shocked to find what Mary Shelley’s novel originally described the creature and how that changed. From plays who add characters and amended scenes to a makeup artist who changed our few of the monster, we’ll explore all of the monster’s classic characteristics and where they came from.
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Portrait of Frankenstein’s Monster according to Mary Shelley by Devin Dion
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We are happy to have you!
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Yeah its crazy
Baron Frankenstein recently entered a body building competition,
There was a terrible missunderstanding.
Michael Metler How many people have made this joke, it's not even funny anymore, it's just annoying and just seen as really unoriginal. No offense but so many people keep making this joke and I'm tired of seeing people copying it.
@@Angel_Billy4-30-23 First time for me to hear it and I laughed, so I think it's a win.
It's an oldie but a goodie.
@@Angel_Billy4-30-23 First time I heard it as well. Not sure what circles you travel in or what channels you frequent to have heard it so many times but for me it was funny. Ideas, phrases, knowledge, jokes, etc. don't get around by staying in one place waiting for people to google it. Conversely I could add: "I don't know how many times people have made negative comments about somebody reposting a joke, it's not even amusing anymore, it's just annoying and can be seen as really unoriginal."
Did you hear about the time that Frankenstein's monster lost his left arm and left leg in a car accident?
He's all right now. ;)
Green? He looks black & white to me.
"It's a-lie! It's a-lie!"
Hammer.
"Just like the others!"
Light gray to me . Lol
In the 1931 film, Jack Pierce gave him green skin because he would appear paler on black and white film. They say it during the commentary on the Universal Legacy collection DVD. Pierce most likely wouldn't have painted him green if it was filmed in color. He probably would have went with a light shade of grey.
He NEVER painted Karloff green. The makeup was Grey, and not because of B&W film. He was designed and painted as being death grey in the original film.
@@Valkonnen Since you're contradicting what the commentary said on the dvd, can you provide a source for this info?
BIG surprise to kids these daze that films in Black and White were filmed in vivid arrays of colorful outfits and backdrops, cars, etc. Much like real life was (shocking, huh?)
It's no different with every generation though - I'm almost 60 (58 next week) and I still think of folks from World War 2, The Depression and The Old West as literally living in Black and White due to having seen so many photos and documentaries of those times in grainy B and W. Goes to show the power of tv and the media.
@@michaelkaminski8339 wow, i envy you so much, you may consider me as a kid these daze, but if i had a chance to be born at your time (61 i believe )or even earlier i wouldn't hesitate for a second, all kinds of things were better from my point of view, music was definitely better, films were better, it was just a different time, but i guess i'm just being stupid
@@michaelkaminski8339 - The color choices still had to 'work' in B&W. An eye-burning palette turns into shades of grey, otherwise.
In Mary Shelley’s book, the monster was described as 8 feet tall with yellow skin that barely covered the muscles and arteries beneath.
Did you read the original book? What a fucking CHORE! Dracula is almost as bad. Instead of being "terrified" or even "fascinated", the predominant feeling is one of "sleepiness".
Maybe some type of yellow artificial skin that was transparent.
@@painkillerjones6232 I found Dracula so engaging I read it in one siting
@@lordnebo Was it the "Cliff's notes" version?
no the full novel just was't able to put it down
mad respect for including the mighty max toy
One of the great toys ever.
Hey look it's Oliver Graves! Love your stand up.
Please do Phantom of the opera and how he changed from Lon Chaneys grotesque monster into the namby Pamby "hunk" that Lloyd Webber made him out to be. Lon Chaney actually suffered a great deal in an attempt to portray the phantom as best as he could. To get the upturned nose he put wires up his nostrils which caused them to constantly bleed
Padraig Pearse I agree it always makes me cringe when they get the most perfect faced goody two shoes guy to play Erik that’s not how it should be he’s supposed to be deformed
the modern versions of the Phantom of the Opera are so bad. We need a scary Phantom movie to come out with the gross version of Erik.
He truly exemplified the term "suffering for your art"!
The " Man of one thousand faces"
I've read the book. The phantom's face is described as looking like a skull. Lon Chaney had the right idea.
“Putting on the ritz!” I just died.
I think the blue skin used in the play also may have emphasized the fact that this was a dead body unnaturally revived. In other words it remains corpse-like even when reanimated.
Ah-ah ☝🏽
2004 Frankenstein tv miniseries, starring Luke Goss as the monster. That was a very visually accurate version of the creature. Despite the fact he wasn’t tall. In fact, very few have been tall.
I've always thought that Berni Wrightsen's illustrations of Shelly's story 1:35 - 2:45 - 4:46 were about as close to a definitive portrait of the monster as we'll ever likely get,
Although Jungi Ito also did some unforgettable illustrations of the monster in that were close to Shelly's description of her creature in his Manga adaptation of Frankenstein.
Bernie Wrightson was an incredible artist. We can't wait to talk about his concept art for Ghostbusters. Definitely a favorite.
Universal tried to Trademark their image, but that's nearly impossible once the look becomes iconic.
Always loved this story. And thank you so much for putting in Young Frankenstein, one of my favorite films.
@John Lester They told me it was Frankenstein.
This video has been on my watch later for almost two years and I’ve finally got around to watching. Was not disappointed!
I’m so happy you watched it! We are working on The Mummy right now.
I think in the novel Victor mentions using animal parts to help him make a larger body. Using parts of larger animals would explain the Monster's size, but then I wonder how much of his body is even human in origin and how they could be even be crafted into a human form.
It's raining. The "Young Frankenstein" cutaways were awesome.
Mary Shelly's monster was intelligent. He speaks often in the book and understands much about what he. Her story is far better than the modern versions we call Frankenstein. The modern monster is green only because of how those colours look on black and white film. While your videos are enjoyable, I do wish you think more about how you title them.
in the sequels to the original Frankenstein the monster does learn to talk and convey emotion, that's why Bride of Frankenstein is one of the best sequels ever made.
really then why werent the other actors painted green as well since it shows up on B&W film so much better?
@@KenMabie The green looks gray on B&W film. This was enhanced by using blue light on Karloff and warm orange light on the other actors.
It would be awesome to see Victor Frankenstein's monster as closer to the novel's description of the undead for once. Thumbs up!
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@@JurassicReptile Yeah it caught the background music.
Ah, I noticed that change. Good it was only that minor part
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Someone: *dies*
Doctor Frankenstein: It’s rewind time
Herbert west: it’s also rewind time
Necromancy experts: it’s also also rewind time
Now this was pretty cool! Thanks for putting effort into this, it shows, and I enjoyed it rather a lot!
Wow just found this video and enjoyed it! Well done!
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One thing to remember as to the creation of Frankenstein's creature he mentions
"The dissecting room and the slaughter house furnished many of my materials."
suggesting that his creature is a composite of human and animal parts.
In particular it's mentioned that a normal human heart wouldn't suffice for a being of his size, instead he has the heart of a gorilla or similar
Good work
Jack Pierce's explanation of the monster's flat top has never made sense to me. If you cut the skull straight across and then hinge it and clamp it shut it would still be the same shape as the skull before you cut it.
Ok, my first audio book experience completely ruined it for me, but I'd listen to your reading of Frankenstein in a HEARTBEAT
Actually I would say the most accurate depiction is from the 2004 series "Frankenstein". The monster speaks eloquently just like in the book and his appearance is exactly as it says in the book and there's very few visible stitches. All in all its probably the most accurate monster and most accurate plot when compared to the book
@Don canine oh yeah by far. Karloff raised the bar for all Frankenstein's to follow
@Don canine I know same. I'm actually rereading the book now and even in that Dr Frankenstein is more of a monster than the monster himself. He makes his creation and almost immediately just abandons it. I've always felt sorry for the monster because he is just misunderstood. Happy Halloween to you too man. It's nice just to have a civilised conversation for once in UA-cam :)
Yeah. In the book There's a whole chapter where he never shuts up. One of the best things about the original movie is the procedure to make the creature. In the book it's already done. No real reference to the procedure. A scant reference to some great machine and possibly the influence of black magic. Been a long time since I read the book
Wow, that's crazy. Thank you for sharing this information with us. I never knew he was meant to be anything else. But I couldn't imagine writing a story and years later having so many people misinterpret it that what other people imagined is how people picture him now. Not going to lie, I'd be pretty upset about that. But I guess in a way, she was kind of vague in her description of him and how he was brought back to life so it's not really surprising that so many people took liberty with the story and sort of made it their own. That is what I picture when I think of Frankenstein's monster, that green one with the flat head. I had no idea that he was supposed to be completely different. Thank you for letting us know. It was pretty interesting to learn about this.
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I'd be happy, different interpretations are what keep a story interesting. I'm glad the monster always has a different appearance.
best film adaption of the story and creature to date that ive seen is in the 2004 tv movie series of Frankenstein. the monster is played by luke goss. the actor was also prince nuada in HB 2. and nomak in blade 2
That Putin on a Ritz. Almost didn't catch it. Nice. I unsubscribed just so I could subscribe again.
You win the easter egg hunt!
Interesting to hear Jack Pierce's explanation for the flat top head, I tried to find that out recently but failed. More generally, the makeup was a collaboration between Pierce and Karloff. While it's likely Pierce had the most design influence, they came up with it together. They mention it briefly in the Karloff This Is Your Life episode.
Victor mentions visits to slaughterhouses. It could be that he constructed his creature from smaller pieces, such as individual muscles, tendons, and pieces of bones that he collected.
I believe part of Frankenstein’s monster’s composition isn’t all human. He’s more impervious to the elements than humans and the fact that it was indeed difficult to find so many readily available bodies to create so large a creature, so I think Victor incorporated animal parts (possibly explaining his distorted silhouette). But I don’t doubt that a man with gigantism could be most of the foundation. I also took the comment that his skin barely covers his skin meaning that there might be gaps in his flash from stitching pulled tight, but not quite meeting.
I love this video! Bravo!
Jack Pierce also based the monsters look on sketches made by James Whale he was trying to recall a picture of a mental patient from a famous print ( I can't recall the artists name but he was famous for doing these art works) I've seen these original sketches James made. ( James Whale was my great great uncle)
That is amazing! In the future we plan on doing feature work on the creators behind the classic monsters including the incredible James Whale. If you're ever willing to share any sketches or insights we'd love to hear and feature them.
@@ChannelingSpirits unfortunately I don't own the Sketches I saw them as a boy. I didn't actually discover I was related to James until I was around 52 years of age 6 years ago when an ailing Aunt returned from living in Australia and commented that we had a famous Horror movie director in the family . My Aunt whose memory was never great could not recall his name and commented when I enquired what films he directed "It was that one with the bloke with the Square head?". there was a long pause from myself and a sharp intake of breath. "you are not talking about James Whale are you?" "Jim Whale that's it then she went in to how we were connected via our quite impossibly large family tree. The strange thing is I have been a Horror movie fan since I was 9 years old and when I was around Twelve I interviewed James last surviving brother not knowing that we were related. t was then I saw the sketches artwork etc. I believe the Family may have either sold the stuff on to collectors or passed it on to Dudley Borough council West Midlands UK ( Not the North of England as it states in the God and Monsters Movie but smack dab in the middle) There has been talk for many years of the council erecting a statue of the Monster as a tribute it has never come to pass however there is a Memorial sculpture outside the local cinema complex. There were two Artists that influenced Frankenstein Hogarth, I'm sure it was one of his Bedlam Sketches that influenced Frankenstein it depicts a very Kaloffian visage with the square head and deep sunk eyes. And another artist that influenced James was actually an inmate of Bedlam. a man called Richard Dadd who was an Orientalist and painter of Supernatural subjects. There is one picture which I can't recall the title of but you can see the face of a character that looks like Elsa Lanchester's face in Bride of Frankenstein. in Fact I would say that James had a taste for the strange and grotesque you only have to look at the way he used shadows on the faces of actors Like Una O'Connor and Ernest Thesiger and compare them to some of the lighting on the art works they are a stand out. Anything you'd like to ask I am happy to help but i never met the man himself and I don't own anything he once owned (mores the pity) I do have many Horror movie autographs though and over the years I've been fortunate to meet many of the Hammer movies stars ( again most of the Universal people had by then passed on) and I am lucky enough to own the autograph of every major horror star, (Except for John Carradine I've been trying to get one of those for years!)
Crazy idea that popped into mind. If the creature was frozen an on ice till some point in the future, chances of the creature being used as a cloning template for a possible army? Somewhat like in Star Wars the Clone Wars, having some changes done to the DNA mixture to make the creature copy's an making them stitch free and mind set with a regular looking head.
This was a video of pure pleasure to watch
Thank you so much for taking the time to do so!
"Would you mind telling me whose brain I _did_ put in?"
"And you won't be angry?"
"I will NOT...be...angry."
"...Abbey Someone."
Seeing all of the old Price, Lee, and Cushing monster movies is on my bucket list, only seen a smattering so far but I'd like to binge them once and for all.
Abby normal
"Are you telling me that I put an Abnormal brain - into a 6 foot 2 inch, 200 pound GORILLA?!"
dont bother most of the newer ones are garbage ... just stick to the earlier ones ...
eventually the dracula ones go to the 1970s and the frankenstein ones get really stupid with him putting the soul of a dead guy in a woman's body (its even called frankenstein created woman) its fucking awful ... just stick the the earlier Lee and Cushing works
Brides of Dracula a Hammer Universal coop movie from 1960 was pretty good its got Cushing but not Lee
oh and dont forget The Fearless Vampire Killers its got Sharon Tate in it ... yes THEEE Sharon Tate .. the one killed by Charlie Manson's followers
Well you know a corpse can be several colors, including bright orange like a basketball. The wonders of decomposition.
Why wouldn't people in the village recognize the face of the dead guy that Frankenstein used for his creature? The head is essentially unaltered so he'd have been pretty recognizable. Not sure why the head had to be flat topped.
With all the different and surreal alterations in the appearance of Erik the Opera Ghost, I'm hoping for a Phantom of the Opera investigation very soon. After all, Gaston Leroux was still alive to consult on Lon Chaney's version of Erik, so that's the closest anyone's come to bringing the Phantom to his "life".
We will get there, we promise! We've got a lot of supernatural topics to cover but trust us we'll cover him. Just don't expect anything on Love Never Dies...
Dear God! That Putin on the Ritz, absolutely killed me!
To me Dear The Real Monster was the one who portrayed Robert Deniro in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein is the Darkest Movie i've Ever Seen and is A Faithful adaptation to the Book and as i Saith this is how Mary Described the Monster and the way it was made is truly Terrifying and Darker and Great Video is Awesome
Actually for Son of Frankenstein, there’s behind the scenes footage of Karloff’s last outing as the Monster and he is green
It's also very important to denote the distinction Shelly made between this work (science fiction) and fantasy. Frankenstein had been obsessed with alchemy and magic, but while study at school figured out (via the help of a teacher) that the mystical arts were pure woo and would do nothing.
This is an important point as it is the key distinction between the genres. Science fiction is what is possible with science without having to resort to magic.
Does anyone remember the version where he was handsome? Frankenstein takes his creation to see Figaro at a theatre and the creation is moved by the music. I just remember him being so good looking. I think, he started to rot or something like that
I rather like the frontispiece illustration where the creature is quite normal-looking, just for the implication that Frankenstein is only disgusted by what he's done.
He is green with envy and it looks cool!
The Phantom of the Opera! PLEASE!
My partner Katie: that reminds me you got to get your bolts tighten tomorrow hehe. Me: haha
I never heard of Jack Pierce making a green Monster. That makeup was light blue, though we don't know whether this was the intended color, or just for the appearance on black and white film. I think it's also safe to say that Herman was light blue/violet as well.
Not sure where you believe he was light blue. In an interview in For Monsters Only #5 (Sep. 1967) Jack Pierce said it was “greenish-grey greasepaint” (page 11). And the color test for Son Of Frankenstein shows a green monster.
In regards to Herman, I can’t find anything definitive on the greasepaint they used. Color stills and video vary from green to blue but not violet. What sources are you citing?
@@ChannelingSpirits For Herman, look at color stills of the makeup. The base color is gray with the shadows a more violet color.
The Karloff (in Bride of Frankenstein) was painted by artist Rolf Armstrong on set. The hue of the skin is more blue-grey for this, corroborated Karloff's costars. Glenn Strange also said the makeup was never green (his makeup was likely similarly colored to Herman's), likening it more to aluminum/dark gray. There's also conflicting statements from Jack Pierce that the makeup is sky grey. The home video from Son of Frankenstein shows a more yellow Monster, but it's believed that the color has been distorted from the 16mm transfer, shifting everything yellow. Correcting this would get you a pale gray color.
I think saying he was blue originally was hasty on my part and that it's more accurately to flatly say that he was gray, though there's endless debate on what the finer tones of that are. I think you're accurate in the belief that viewer's thought the Monster was green, but I don't think you can definitively say the makeup was green.
Hurmen Munster is obviously blue/ grey
who the fuck is Hurmen? do you mean Herman ?
I love your channel. Can you guys make videos about Jack O' Lantern mythos and representations in the pop culture?
Because it has no flowing blood beneath its surface. Only the green pigment remains without it.
yeah except no flowing blood dosnt turn you green it turns you purple then blue dont believe me .. try wrapping a string tightly around your finger
It wasn't the first work of science fiction. Cyrano DeBergerac wrote about traveling to the moon using rocket propulsion in 1645, before Shelley's time.
Frankenstein is not the first work to use elements of science fiction and there is a great debate to be had on which work is the first "true" science fiction novel. As far back as ancient Greece, Hephaestus created "automatons" of metal which could be considered the first "robots." Cyrano's work features a sci-fi trope "the rocket to the moon" but his method is by accident and not deliberate science. We aren't saying Shelley invented every aspect of science fiction but a strong case can be made for this being the first deliberate work in the genre.
You should do an episode on Buffy!
IMO, all these experts talking about Frankenstein's monster have never read the book. Frankenstein does assemble parts for the body, but only one part was human: the BRAIN. All the other parts were from different animals. He used the paws of a bar for hands. He wanted to make a creature that was better than a human being in all ways.
During the bodies decomposition, the body turns green, and eventually black/purple.
I've read Jack Pierce's explanation of the monster's squared off head, and, as makeup maestro Rick Baker points out, it doesn't wash. The real explanation is obvious to me--Pierce intended the monster to resemble what was then the common concept of a robot. A series of preliminary sketches of the monster includes one head that's definitely a metal robot. Test footage of Karloff in green makeup for Son of Frankenstein, which was planned to be shot in color (the sets broadcast this intention), streams on UA-cam.
Yes Pierce designed the makeup, but Karlov had his addition, or rather, removal. Boris was the one who had the idea to take out his bridgework to create the corpse-like sunken cheeks.
I love the Penny Dreadful version.
Great video! I subscribed, looking forward to more great content! Please check out the version of Frankenstein that Luke Goss stars in, I believe his appearance is the closest to what the book describes.
My guess for the next video is Dracula's bride or Phantom of the Opera.
Oh I really hope it's phantom of the opera. FUCKING ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER STOLE LON CHANEYS THUNDER. Chaney actually suffered for his art
@@padraigpearse1551 Webber is a sham.
There's only one memorable song in most of his musicals, and even that's by Puccini.
@@bingola45 exactly
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I didn't know it was green.
I'll read it again, and pay more attention this time.
One of the best version's I feel and close to the book is 1977s Terror of Frankenstein aka Victor Frankenstein, a Swedish adaptation. The acting is great, I remember seeing this back in the late 70s and feeling..wow (classic horror fan here), so sad you really feel for the monster. Ok one thing in the book (and if you haven't read the book 😐 shame) the creation has dark hair, here he's blonde. I guess maybe because it was a Swedish film, I don't know. You can find the film in full here on UA-cam or dailymotion if you prefer. Enjoy
showed some amazing reference material like Bernie wrightsons art from the Marvel comics illustrated edition of the novel. and dell comics frankrenstein.
U have a good voice
You didn't mention that the reason that _The Munsters_ got to use makeup so similar to 1931's _Frankenstien._ It was produced by Universal, who owns (owned?) the copyright on that makeup. No non-Universal Frankenstein's Monster can legally look like that.
jb888888888 No, they tried to trademark that image, but were unable to due to how iconic it is.
@@chikinonfrydai [citation needed]
e.g., www.plagiarismtoday.com/2011/10/24/how-universal-re-copyrighted-frankensteins-monster/
Bill Prat's monster is king of all the monsters!
LOUDER could hardly hear your Voice
but this is deep, like it very much
Cool. The channel got the electrides too
Electrodes, sorry for the typo
"Put... the candle... back!"
From behind zee bookcase…
@@antifagoat6591 - "What hump?"
Gangrene is greenish black in color. So I think the movie director chose this makeup choice for the monster to emphasize that it is made from dead flesh.
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Actually the creature had a name in the book .. its Adam and since he is a creation of Victor Frankenstein that would make him Frankenstein's son .. thus the creature is technically a Frankenstein.. Adam Frankenstein is the creatures full name
"I ought to have been thine Adamn but instead i am thy Lucifer, but even Satan that enemy of man and God had fellow devils in his lament, I am utterly alone"
Mary would likely hate those first Frankenstein films. Mary would be turning in her grave! Mary would like the later films.
Why does no one ever mention the 2004 Frankenstein mini series? That one is very close to the book and no one ever mentions it, what’s up with that?
Great. Now do the mummy or creature from the black lagoon. Or Phantom of the opera. 😁
We will get to them, we promise!
It is probably because some prints of Frankenstein during its original release and 1938 re-release were made using Kodak's Sonochrome green (verdante) tinted film stock.
If I remember correctly, the novel describes him as a sickly yellowish-white caste, to reflect his cadaverous origins.
Edit: I was mostly correct.
Fun fact : the orginal bride of frankenstiens is a red head not brunett it just look like that because it was black and white .
They aren't bolts, they're electrodes. He's thought to be green because the make-up used for black and white film was green and blue . In the original story Frankenstein also got parts from slaughterhouses
You should do something related to Mr. Hyde from the strange case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Nevermind I see the video
Too many rides up and down on the operating table during a electrical storm that would make me green
I forget who said it, but the explanation I read was that he was green because he was made out of bodies dug up out of the grave, and they would be green with mold.
They used green in the days of black and white movies because it showed up as very pale on screen. The first Dr Who console room is pale green, but shows as white on b&w TV, but in early Pertwee episodes that feature the console room, it's still green. A white set would cause the picture to glare or even flare.
Colin Moore This is true. It’s for the same reason that the police cars in z-cars were actually pale yellow, not white.
My first thought reading the title "It's not, it's pale yellow. The monster was a vegan with long hair, good teeth and really good speech"
palmieres he wasn’t vegan was he? I just read the book and I don’t remember any mentioning of him being vegan.
@@chikinonfrydai Yes. He says he eats only berries and fruits. If by choice or because he has no alternative (being on the run and all), it's unclear.
Because of the light bulbs.
When I read the book, I imagined he would look like a ghoul from the first 2 Fallout games,
It's not a misconception. Frankenstein's monster is also named Frankenstein.
Which film adaptation is 0:53?
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
If you look on the universal DVD set for the Frankenstein films I think you’ll see some colour 8 mm whole movie footage from the set of I think it was bride of Frankenstein or son of Frankenstein and you can see the greenish you in the make up on car love. I think it’s during his birthday and he sticks his tongue out of the camera.
Young Frankenstein is the best Frankenstein movie ever
Can you do Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?
He is not green, but pale, green is one of the colours used to represent pale and emaciated complexions in cartoons and drawings
do one about zombies
He's a good boy!!!!