The first fight between the Bruise Brothers: Joe Kocur ( New York Rangers ) vs Bob Probert ( Detroit Red Wings ) - NHL hockey fight Dec 17, 1993 Wings & MSG feed
I can't remember the occasion, it might have been the first meeting between Proby and Donald Brashear, which if you lived in metro daytwaaa was highly anticipated, but I'll never forget Mickey Redmond basically screaming 'And There's Nobody Left In Their Seats AT THE JOE!!!!!"
Hell yea these 2 were fighters Probert was a fighter till the end. Kocur had a hell of a right. Bruise brothers for life. They were just doing there jobs :)
I will always love old time hockey. Michigan born and raised. It’s so exciting watching the bruise brothers duke it out. That first punch Probert threw with his glove on...I can only imagine how that felt. And then Kocur smacking him twice after that...god damn. The 2 best NHL enforcers of all time.
As the commentator said.. "there are no friends" on the ice... and while Kocur respected Probert, he understood the code of the game-YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN!
Love that enforcer mentality by both men. A Ranger tripped Keith Primeu before the faceoff, Probert is there to fight the guy in a blink. When two other Rangers try to fight off Probert, Probert starts to fight them both at the same time. Then Kocur pushes aside both his teammates so that he can have a proper fight with Probert.
first two punches....man.....Joey is the best....r.i.p.... Bob.... Joey skated off smiling..but just because he loved you bud....r.i.p...big fella............he loved you.
Neither one wanted to fight and Kucor admitted Probert just fought enough to make it look good and didn't rally do his best since they were best buddies off the ice. This is a well known fact. Nobody won and nobody lost and both did a great job. End of story.
@@foodfuddNegative. That was when Probert was with the Blackhawks & Kocur was trying to get rehired by the Wings. Those fights were mostly staged. This fight was legit. Probert even said in an interview that at first he had no idea who he grabbed a hold of at first. Once Kocur started smacking him hard, he started getting pissed & then realized who it was. That anger Probert had at the end was legit lol.
Even though probert was number 1 heavyweight in the NHL Kocur was number 1 in the most lethal punch...and you can tell bobby knows it....and every player in the NHL knew that too...Kocur ended careers with one punch
@@jefffraser6666 probert beat clark by tko or clear win in all of his fights against clark. clark was a middleweight and was never considered a heavyweight by anyone. its not an opinion, it's a known fact by anyone who has a decent knowledge of the game, its history, and hockey fighting specifically.
@@danski6694 All those guys were middleweights and light heavyweights. Kocur was a true heavyweight. Kocur played with all of those guys. Then when he showed up their services were no longer needed. Domi and King to the Jets, and Jannsens to the Whalers.
Tom Quinton Don't forget Adam Graves, a stud player who loved to scrap and damn good at it. Been a Ranger fan since '65 and it's true if they were tougher in 1970- 1974 they very well could have won a Cup or maybe two. When Smith added Joey to this group they might not have needed him, but I'm a firm believer in the saying, " you can never have too much speed or too much toughness." Fred Shero used to say about Dave Schultz, " Schultzy gave us courage on the road". Anyone can play tough at home but going into another teams Barn in the NHL is whole different ballgame. Joey (amoung others) did that for the Rangers.
Probert and Kocur were like brothers to each other. They were both tough enforcers who played the game clean and stood up for their team and put their organization first and foremost. They fought each other because it was in their blood to instinctively protect and avenge their opponents' wrongdoings against their own teammates, and they just happened to have opposing jerseys on. Their fight was nothing personal between them. I'll be willing to bet any amount of money that they both sought each other out after this game was over, shook hands and hugged each other and then went out for a beer together, knowing full well and understanding that this situation could and would arise again when their teams played each other the next time.
If Bob Probert had never existed, it would be Kocur that would be getting his accolades. Both big dangerous guys but /I would rather fight Probert any day of the week over Kocur. Probert had the long drawn out fights fairly often and he was a beast, but Kocur came in with bad intentions from the very start and he tried to hurt guys, As a Michigander I will always be a fan of these two and respect them both equally.
Man, if the linesman didn't grab Probie and keep him away from Kocur and Probie pulled the sweater off like he wanted to, I think we all would've seen something very special. A dangerous Kocur with no jersey, and a pissed off motivated Probert with no jersey. Damn, that would've been one for the ages.
Kocur pretty much jumped Probert here who was engaged with a few other Rangers. Probert's gloves weren't even off when Kocur started throwing which allowed him to land those first couple. After that, pretty even. Big right hand by Probert at the end causing them to separate.
I always hated seeing ex Redwings fight past team mates specially when their best friends RIP BOBBY PROBERT! 😢❤ YOU ARE STILL LOVED AND MISSED BROTHER! ❤
Kocur looked like he didn't want to hit him as hard as others like Jim Kyte, Carkner, etc , while Probert had a reach advantage and really wanted to go at it. That is just my impression.
What is funny as hell. I was listening to an interview with Kosher. After they had a couple fights. They called each other. And it was decided that they are best friends and they can't fight each other like that. So in later games. If they came head to head. They would just tie each other up real bad. And basically just dance together 😂😂😂😂
Hated to see these 2 friends fight. I had a chance to meet Bob through Joey outside the Olympia room during Bob's rookie season. Great guys. So sad Bob is gone. Simply the best fighter. Joey the best puncher.
This whole thing with how Probert couldn't win a fight unless his jersey was shed is beyond asinine. It seems most of you have not seen the famous Probert vs. Mcsorley fight from '94. A very hungover Probert damn near pummels up a healthy, sober and an equal heavyweight in Mcsorely in a 2 min some scrap. Then take a close look who's sweater is shed. I'll tell one thing...it's not Bob's.
McSorley's jesey came off all the time. So did plenty of other fighters. Dave Brown had a mini sleeve, some fighters doctored their sleeves or made them tear away. Nothing dishonorable about probie's jersey coming off. Sometimes it became a disadvantage.
Of course it is. Aside from Mcsorley - Cochrane, Coxe, Crowder, Tinordi, Domi, Parker, Nylund, Kimble, Stanley, McGill, Plett, Curran, Maguire, the list goes on...
What I see.....Kocur did not hit Probie full force, he held back and would not have preferred to fight his friend. Just fulfilled the role he was paid to do. If the fight had been allowed to go on, either Probert would have used his reach to keep Kocur away, or Kocur would have got in close and did some damage. We will never know because of Bettman and the refs. Probably just as well.
A little to late kocur had two major punches landed from the beginning of the fight. There’s a reason why he has KO in his name. Probert had plenty of time to do something but didn’t succeed with that upper cut.
They were either past their primes, or I got the sense that both held back in this one, that they really didn't want to fight each other. They would have given each other a frightful beating a decade before if they played on separate teams.
With both sweaters off, and especially if the fight lasted another minute, Probert would have taken command. Kocur was one tier below guys like Probert and McSorley.
As tough as he was even Bob Probert was cautious of that devastating right hand of Joey Kocur!! Kocur didn't care who you were he'd knock you into oblivion with that hand.🤪
watch closely kocur could have kept whaling on an exposed probert but instead opted to hug him and talk to him in his ear. too much love there. probert was great but if joey gets the jump its a free ride to blurryville
Their primes occured at different times!!!!!!!!! In the mid-late eighties, Probie was beating fighters who beat Kocur, such as Craig Coxe, Bob McGill and Marty McSorley!!!!!!!!! Whereas towards the mid nineties, I'd say Kocur was probably better, as Probie was being pressured to come off his coke by the league and the Blackhawks, whilst Kocur was still throwing his recklessly hard punches with abandon, and terrorising the league!!!!!!! I'd say that by the late nineties, Probie was better again, as Kocur was realising his fists weren't indestructible, and Probie was always a better distance fighter than him!!!!!!!!! I don't remember ever seeing Kocur win a long fight against anyone!!!!!!!
@@STEJTHEGREATEST Fighters had stretches in their careers where they fought better due to experience, physical strength and of course tactics and supplements we call them. Newer competition and Tie down rules could change any fighters performance to decline. As you've mentioned that Probert's cocaine usage came under control. He was probably less willing to get beat on. The pain meter escalated without cocaine in the system. The competition was getting bigger in size and more juiced up on roids! The old saying goes, every dog had its day. I believe that Probert's best years were from Jan 9,1991 too April 1994. He was also very good in the latter. 1987 1988 season. Kocur moved up too number 2 during the 1989-1990 season. Probert had issues with drugs and prison related problems and slipped to number 3. You are more than likely accurate with what you've put forward regarding who was better between them at the time frames you've indicated. Funny how Coxe dropped Kocur quickly. Coxe could fight with Probert all night long. Certain fighters had the other guys figured out I guess? I've watched this fight and believe it was a slight edge win for Kocur here.
Is it me, or did Kocur hold back not wanting to land a full force right on his friend? He seemed to go through the motions. Proberts was/is my all time favorite fighter, but I saw a few chances where if Kocur had landed his jack hammer right on his friend, the outcome may have been different. If so, great respect on the part of Kocur
Mickey Redmond was the perfect choice to commentate Bob Probert fights. He did an amazing job. Sam Rosen ruined a great moment on the NY feed with his whining.
Probert was The GOAT but you can tell he respected Kocur's power by keeping him close and not eating a few punches like he would with other fighters. If Kocur was 6'4" and 250 there would have been a lot of hospitalized fighters.
Looks like Probert doesn't really want to fight Kocur. Obviously their probably friends doing a job for their team. Probert is trying to hug Kocur so that neither of them hurt each other too bad. Not usually how Probert fights when he intends to hurt someone. Both tough guys though.
Hey Probie hows the kids,Probie great thanks for asking,hey wanna go-sure while fighting discussing a family get together on July 4th,what true sportsmanship
Probie let up on Kocur first then Kocur threw two big shots. They then grappled for a bit with Probie getting madder and madder and Kocur thinking maybe they should end it. If you're going to say Kocur let up on Probert then you have to acknowledge Probert's half heartedness at the start.
bahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! never assume anything... like I said Kocur was tough dude but he ain't no Probert and he didn't want anymore of Probert in this fight. You crazy kid.
How about the fact we are still analyzing this fight over TWENTY FIVE years later!
“They’re just doing their job here”
I can't remember the occasion, it might have been the first meeting between Proby and Donald Brashear, which if you lived in metro daytwaaa was highly anticipated, but I'll never forget Mickey Redmond basically screaming 'And There's Nobody Left In Their Seats AT THE JOE!!!!!"
"There's two big guys...THEY GOTTA GO!!" Love the old days man.
They went for beer, and wings together after the game.
As it is with honorable warriors.
kocur thanked him
..wings..I get it..
Hell yea these 2 were fighters Probert was a fighter till the end. Kocur had a hell of a right. Bruise brothers for life. They were just doing there jobs :)
Gotta respect the hell out of that
I spoke to Joey a few years ago. He told me the toughest fights he ever had was with Probie. God love Bobby. I loved hockey back then.
never will you hear the great Mickey Redmond more excited. one of the best color guys going....has been for almost 40 years now.
I will always love old time hockey. Michigan born and raised. It’s so exciting watching the bruise brothers duke it out. That first punch Probert threw with his glove on...I can only imagine how that felt. And then Kocur smacking him twice after that...god damn. The 2 best NHL enforcers of all time.
dave brown was tougher
Tie Domi was more fun than Kocur.
Dave the Hammer Schultz was tougher. Fuck Probert
@@khav11 Khav? You changed your name?
@@danski6694 no this is a 2007 screename from my first account.
Love how Kucur stood there waiting for Probert to get lose from the ref
As the commentator said.. "there are no friends" on the ice... and while Kocur respected Probert, he understood the code of the game-YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN!
Love that enforcer mentality by both men. A Ranger tripped Keith Primeu before the faceoff, Probert is there to fight the guy in a blink. When two other Rangers try to fight off Probert, Probert starts to fight them both at the same time. Then Kocur pushes aside both his teammates so that he can have a proper fight with Probert.
Looked like the linesman tipped him over
first two punches....man.....Joey is the best....r.i.p.... Bob.... Joey skated off smiling..but just because he loved you bud....r.i.p...big fella............he loved you.
bahahahahahahahhaaaa! cracks me up how people make up things in their minds of how Kocur felt...bahahahahaa!
Both of them landed some pretty heavy punches. That one punch Probert threw with his glove on probably hurt like hell.
Respect between friends.
I think Kocur said he said he loved Probert, but it was something they had to do lol! Two Red Wing great tough guys. Kocur...hardest punch...
they were brothers and will always be brothers. long live the bruise brothers!
Neither one wanted to fight and Kucor admitted Probert just fought enough to make it look good and didn't rally do his best since they were best buddies off the ice. This is a well known fact. Nobody won and nobody lost and both did a great job. End of story.
@Willie Gordon research Bob Probert
I do believe Probie got actually got pissed off at the end.
@@foodfuddNegative. That was when Probert was with the Blackhawks & Kocur was trying to get rehired by the Wings. Those fights were mostly staged. This fight was legit. Probert even said in an interview that at first he had no idea who he grabbed a hold of at first. Once Kocur started smacking him hard, he started getting pissed & then realized who it was. That anger Probert had at the end was legit lol.
TWO of the very best at work!!!!!! LOVE IT.
these were the golden times of a bygone era
I remember this weekend like it was yesterday. The wings Chased Patrick Roy out of Montreal the night before this game.
This Probert vs Kocur fight was in 93-94. The Wings chasing Patrick Roy out of the net in Montreal was in 95-96.
I would've loved to be that guy in the sweater watching behind the glass. R.I.P. Probert.
WHOAAAAAAA!!!!! YESTERDAY THIS GAME TOOK PLACE EXACTLY 25 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!! I WISH PROBIE WAS STILL HERE!!!!!! ;*(
Even though probert was number 1 heavyweight in the NHL Kocur was number 1 in the most lethal punch...and you can tell bobby knows it....and every player in the NHL knew that too...Kocur ended careers with one punch
The linesmen really interfered in what what have been a legendary round 2.
Narrow win for Kocur here.
Gotta realize Kocur was insanely strong-he was really 220 at this point--
Why wouldn't anyone believe that Kocur wasn't superior?
mike cullinan GOAT..
@@cedericocosantorini8013this question is so confusing 😅 Probert was the man
Kocur probably the smallest meanest man to ever put on a pair of skates
His cousin Wendel Clark was pretty handy
Hb keith magunson or terry or rilley ?
@@jefffraser6666 wendel clark wasnt in the same league as probert and kocur.
@@MrTedMcForehead your opinion...
He wouldn't fight his cousin Joe, but he some good tilts with Probert..beat him a couple times
@@jefffraser6666 probert beat clark by tko or clear win in all of his fights against clark. clark was a middleweight and was never considered a heavyweight by anyone. its not an opinion, it's a known fact by anyone who has a decent knowledge of the game, its history, and hockey fighting specifically.
The good ol' hockey game is the best game you can name
The best thing the Rangers did at that time, was get Kocur. Toughness that was desperately needed.
Tom Quinton they got Kocur two seasons before “that time”. They had tie domi, kris king, jeff beukeboom, mark janssenns, and many others
@@danski6694 All those guys were middleweights and light heavyweights. Kocur was a true heavyweight. Kocur played with all of those guys. Then when he showed up their services were no longer needed. Domi and King to the Jets, and Jannsens to the Whalers.
Tom Quinton good point 👍
Tom Quinton Don't forget Adam Graves, a stud player who loved to scrap and damn good at it. Been a Ranger fan since '65 and it's true if they were tougher in 1970- 1974 they very well could have won a Cup or maybe two. When Smith added Joey to this group they might not have needed him, but I'm a firm believer in the saying, " you can never have too much speed or too much toughness." Fred Shero used to say about Dave Schultz, " Schultzy gave us courage on the road". Anyone can play tough at home but going into another teams Barn in the NHL is whole different ballgame. Joey (amoung others) did that for the Rangers.
@@qdog568 Domi was a heavyweight by everyones standards that know hockey.
Hated To See This Go Down..But you play for your logo on your shirt..
Probert and Kocur were like brothers to each other. They were both tough enforcers who played the game clean and stood up for their team and put their organization first and foremost. They fought each other because it was in their blood to instinctively protect and avenge their opponents' wrongdoings against their own teammates, and they just happened to have opposing jerseys on. Their fight was nothing personal between them. I'll be willing to bet any amount of money that they both sought each other out after this game was over, shook hands and hugged each other and then went out for a beer together, knowing full well and understanding that this situation could and would arise again when their teams played each other the next time.
they did go for beer after the game
Darn! Too bad the linesmen got in the way - would have been great to see this one go to a finish. Slight edge to Kocur.
Disagree
Joey played it smart where he grabbed hold of Probert and made sure his sweater didn’t have the chance to come up over his head. Well done Kocur!
But then he pulled off his own.
@@wantutosigh1117 double smart move..get an extra extra advantage
God I miss this!
If Bob Probert had never existed, it would be Kocur that would be getting his accolades. Both big dangerous guys but /I would rather fight Probert any day of the week over Kocur. Probert had the long drawn out fights fairly often and he was a beast, but Kocur came in with bad intentions from the very start and he tried to hurt guys, As a Michigander I will always be a fan of these two and respect them both equally.
Man, if the linesman didn't grab Probie and keep him away from Kocur and Probie pulled the sweater off like he wanted to, I think we all would've seen something very special. A dangerous Kocur with no jersey, and a pissed off motivated Probert with no jersey. Damn, that would've been one for the ages.
Narrow win for Kocur in this fight.
Kocur looks to be the most levelheaded of the two. Liked em both but #26 was my favorite fighter of all time.
The best hockey fights I've seen involved good friends now ex teammates
They were the Bruise Brothers
Perfect analogy!😊
“Not a big piece but a major piece for joe kocur”
Rangers won this fight... Kocur get the edge win...
Kocur pretty much jumped Probert here who was engaged with a few other Rangers. Probert's gloves weren't even off when Kocur started throwing which allowed him to land those first couple. After that, pretty even. Big right hand by Probert at the end causing them to separate.
And I think Probert was legitimately pissed off at the end.
Kocur never jumped Probert. Bob threw the first punch. Watch the replay at the 2:34 mark. Narrow win for Kocur in this fight.
I always hated seeing ex Redwings fight past team mates specially when their best friends RIP BOBBY PROBERT! 😢❤ YOU ARE STILL LOVED AND MISSED BROTHER! ❤
Nicely done Tiki :)
They probably had a beer together after the game too.
couple nose beers too no doubt
Very even fight but I think Kocur got the edge. His two first punches were the best in that fight. Narrow win Kocur.
@@darrendesson6681 2:34 He clearly connects a big punch.
First two Kocur threw almost knocked Probert out. He was dazed
Kocur got the edge win here
Probert...respect.
Sam Rosen starts bloviating about fighting in hockey and JD shuts him up with an in-depth analysis of what happened on the ice.
God I miss those days!!!
Did that Linesman teleport himself back in time from the current era to stop fights?!?
Funny to listen to both broadcasts, both very different.
Kocur looked like he didn't want to hit him as hard as others like Jim Kyte, Carkner, etc , while Probert had a reach advantage and really wanted to go at it. That is just my impression.
kocur threw everything into those punches.
Kocur knew Probert's trick of a loose jersey.
@Iceman 23 neither of them pulled any punches
Joe ROCKED him..
I didn't think those two would ever fight
jersey stayed on thats why he pissed
What is funny as hell. I was listening to an interview with Kosher. After they had a couple fights. They called each other. And it was decided that they are best friends and they can't fight each other like that. So in later games. If they came head to head. They would just tie each other up real bad. And basically just dance together 😂😂😂😂
whoa kocur is nearly ko Probert wow
WHAT A MOMENT!!!!
Edge win for Kocur
Hated to see these 2 friends fight. I had a chance to meet Bob through Joey outside the Olympia room during Bob's rookie season. Great guys. So sad Bob is gone. Simply the best fighter. Joey the best puncher.
2 of the toughest hombres to lace them up........no doubt.
Both guys went went to the bar afterwards. The good old days.
This whole thing with how Probert couldn't win a fight unless his jersey was shed is beyond asinine. It seems most of you have not seen the famous Probert vs. Mcsorley fight from '94. A very hungover Probert damn near pummels up a healthy, sober and an equal heavyweight in Mcsorely in a 2 min some scrap. Then take a close look who's sweater is shed. I'll tell one thing...it's not Bob's.
One of my college professors used to say “It’s the exception to prove the rule”.
McSorley's jesey came off all the time. So did plenty of other fighters. Dave Brown had a mini sleeve, some fighters doctored their sleeves or made them tear away. Nothing dishonorable about probie's jersey coming off. Sometimes it became a disadvantage.
Of course it is. Aside from Mcsorley - Cochrane, Coxe, Crowder, Tinordi, Domi, Parker, Nylund, Kimble, Stanley, McGill, Plett, Curran, Maguire, the list goes on...
i mean rob ray only won fights because his jersey came off. he was a punching bag with it on
Ray remained an effective fighter after the tie down rule was enacted in 96-97. He many huge wins and TKO victories with the rule in place.
What I see.....Kocur did not hit Probie full force, he held back and would not have preferred to fight his friend. Just fulfilled the role he was paid to do. If the fight had been allowed to go on, either Probert would have used his reach to keep Kocur away, or Kocur would have got in close and did some damage. We will never know because of Bettman and the refs. Probably just as well.
Hockey used to be so great and it's turned into a pile of shit.
rubbish.
AdamantJHS, you must be Canadian. Probably voted Trudeau, too. Aren't you late to your marxist rally?
@@kyokogodai-ir6hy Trudaeu isnt a Marxist
@@soulbrothanumbuh3200 trudeau is a socialist big time, completely sold the good canadian born workers for worthless immigrants
@@khav11 nah dude that's just being a typical liberal. Crack open a book sometime, you might learn something
Good thing Joey eased up on Probert, because he would have ended up like Jim Kyte.
he didnt ease up on probert. stop commenting this all over this video.
Joey had a jackhammer right hand.
2 more minutes and Kocur would’ve been in the fetal position sucking his thumb. Probert was just warming up the iron.
A little to late kocur had two major punches landed from the beginning of the fight. There’s a reason why he has KO in his name. Probert had plenty of time to do something but didn’t succeed with that upper cut.
You tell wonderful stories. Narrow win for Kocur here.
After this game the ref said that Probert was saying "hold me back hold me back" as he was acting like he wanted to get at Kocur at the end.
He lied to you.
Nice try, but...nah.
They were either past their primes, or I got the sense that both held back in this one, that they really didn't want to fight each other. They would have given each other a frightful beating a decade before if they played on separate teams.
The two toughest heavyweights of all time.
Джорж Лорак.
Kocur admitted he was nervous for this game!!!!!!!
He didn't look nervous though. He was head hunting!!!
ДВА МУЖИКА....КЛАССНЫЕ...ДВА ДРУГА
With both sweaters off, and especially if the fight lasted another minute, Probert would have taken command. Kocur was one tier below guys like Probert and McSorley.
As tough as he was even Bob Probert was cautious of that devastating right hand of Joey Kocur!! Kocur didn't care who you were he'd knock you into oblivion with that hand.🤪
Probert lost fights to much lesser opponents in his career. It's no shame losing to a great fighter like Joe Kocur.
Kocur rocked him with the right of thor could of really really mangled him if he so chose
kocurs first punch stunned probert
drew blood from Probie's face - but he quickly recovered and fought back well
@@merccadoosis8847 After the first punch, Joey eased up. Could have seriously hurt Probert, if he wanted to.
@@qdog568 no doubt
Saskatchewan boys all heart!!
Poetry in slo motion
love those pads couldve been without no difference lol
The NHL used to be awesome!!
Kocur almost knocked him out with that first punch. Went easy on him after that.
watch closely kocur could have kept whaling on an exposed probert but instead opted to hug him and talk to him in his ear. too much love there. probert was great but if joey gets the jump its a free ride to blurryville
Kocur was hugging him for dear life.
Absolutely! Probert was lucky he didn't end up like Jim Kyte!
Joe M After Joey hit him with the first two he stopped punching. This video sucks. I clearly remember watching the game on MSG network
absolutely no doubt Kocur let up
Shame that this Kocur fight was towards the end of Probie's prime. ;*(
Their primes occured at different times!!!!!!!!! In the mid-late eighties, Probie was beating fighters who beat Kocur, such as Craig Coxe, Bob McGill and Marty McSorley!!!!!!!!! Whereas towards the mid nineties, I'd say Kocur was probably better, as Probie was being pressured to come off his coke by the league and the Blackhawks, whilst Kocur was still throwing his recklessly hard punches with abandon, and terrorising the league!!!!!!! I'd say that by the late nineties, Probie was better again, as Kocur was realising his fists weren't indestructible, and Probie was always a better distance fighter than him!!!!!!!!! I don't remember ever seeing Kocur win a long fight against anyone!!!!!!!
exactly dude... i liked Kocur but he was no Bob Probert... Probie stood alone.
BosoxnationI972 Thank You.
@@liveclassictunes probert certainly doesnt stand alone. there are many fighters you could make a good argument for to be the best fighter ever
@@STEJTHEGREATEST Fighters had stretches in their careers where they fought better due to experience, physical strength and of course tactics and supplements we call them. Newer competition and Tie down rules could change any fighters performance to decline. As you've mentioned that Probert's cocaine usage came under control. He was probably less willing to get beat on. The pain meter escalated without cocaine in the system. The competition was getting bigger in size and more juiced up on roids! The old saying goes, every dog had its day. I believe that Probert's best years were from Jan 9,1991 too April 1994. He was also very good in the latter. 1987 1988 season. Kocur moved up too number 2 during the 1989-1990 season. Probert had issues with drugs and prison related problems and slipped to number 3. You are more than likely accurate with what you've put forward regarding who was better between them at the time frames you've indicated. Funny how Coxe dropped Kocur quickly. Coxe could fight with Probert all night long. Certain fighters had the other guys figured out I guess? I've watched this fight and believe it was a slight edge win for Kocur here.
Is it me, or did Kocur hold back not wanting to land a full force right on his friend? He seemed to go through the motions. Proberts was/is my all time favorite fighter, but I saw a few chances where if Kocur had landed his jack hammer right on his friend, the outcome may have been different. If so, great respect on the part of Kocur
not a chance
Kocur almost knocked him out with first two punches. Decision to Kocur.
The hardest punch of the fight was the last one by Probert that actually made Kocur let go.
If Kocur never played hockey he could have been a carpenter and not even need a hammer.
Kocur rocked
Mickey Redmond was the perfect choice to commentate Bob Probert fights. He did an amazing job. Sam Rosen ruined a great moment on the NY feed with his whining.
Yes, Rosen complaining about how awful this was is a real disgrace. He is a pussy NY liberal.
@@philvacanti1446 while i agree that liberals are scum, rosen is one of the best hockey commentators in the history of the game.
kocur gave him the business
should have been the stanley cup final that spring but detroit choked against San Jose
Probert was The GOAT but you can tell he respected Kocur's power by keeping him close and not eating a few punches like he would with other fighters. If Kocur was 6'4" and 250 there would have been a lot of hospitalized fighters.
John Davidson tells it...
Fuckin Esa Tikkanen. one of my all time faves but if I had to play against him I would have lost my patience quickly.
Probert didnt want to fight, he hud behind the ref at the end
Imagine that...starts with Tikkanen...the guy that should be knocked out just because...
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that last punch probert got in... fuck...
Fight goes to Kocur
Agreed
The linesman started it by pushing down primeau😂😂😂
Looks like Probert doesn't really want to fight Kocur. Obviously their probably friends doing a job for their team. Probert is trying to hug Kocur so that neither of them hurt each other too bad. Not usually how Probert fights when he intends to hurt someone. Both tough guys though.
Probert was hugging because he nearly lost his face from the start. Narrow win for Kocur.
Hey Probie hows the kids,Probie great thanks for asking,hey wanna go-sure while fighting discussing a family get together on July 4th,what true sportsmanship
Joey bit off a little more than he could chew with Bobby
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , what are you watching
Probert was lucky he didn't end up like Jim Kyte. Joey definitely eased up on him.
Probie let up on Kocur first then Kocur threw two big shots. They then grappled for a bit with Probie getting madder and madder and Kocur thinking maybe they should end it. If you're going to say Kocur let up on Probert then you have to acknowledge Probert's half heartedness at the start.
@@qdog568 oh like another ''probert was lucky he didnt end up like jim kyte'' comment by you. that's the 5th copy and paste ive read from you here
Kocur got the edge win here
the ref started this with a trip
No, it was Tikkannen getting his stick in there.
+SpartacusColo ur right didnt see that
I like JD and Rosen, but god damn they can be a bunch of whiny babies sometimes.
yeah Kocur was a great one but he was no Bob Probert... if you noticed Bobby still wanted to go but Joey had enough...
lol, kocur had enough? you obviously dont know much about kocur. I loved probert too, but if you think for a second kocur "had enough" you are crazy.
bahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! never assume anything... like I said Kocur was tough dude but he ain't no Probert and he didn't want anymore of Probert in this fight. You crazy kid.
Lol, that will be you're little secret.
come on , Kocur stopped because they were friends , that first right hand stunned probert
+soundbreak7 thank you.