I do love how Ro's earring keeps changing ears. They must have done that on purpose. On another note, I love how much I still love this story and series even after ten years.
It surely breaks my heart to see those gorgeous absolutely stunning D'deridex Warbirds Fired upon and destroyed, and so easily! This is going to be amazing the opening scene is just great! Thank you for all your hard work you are also talented god bless you all this is why the Star Trek community is the best community in the galaxy.
Did anyone else notice that the actor (Bobby Rice) playing Nevin Ro is the same actor who played Peter Kirk (Capt James T Kirk's nephew) on Star Trek Phase 2?
Hard to not notice. I feel like he is getting typecast or a real bad luck When they pick a role for him lol... handsome young man could have any girl in starfleet, in in any generation, but always got a ball and chain of marriage (and a ball and chain with ehh even more balls at that) lol story older than time The type of guy that can have any girl usually well u know haha
So, I happened across this randomly, and while it's a nice effort there were quite a few...issues. 1) Your admiral was wearing a notably oversized jacket, and his badge was crooked. 2) Romulan: "This is no time for secrets." That seems...well, unlikely. 3) Your admiral seemed mind-boggingly stupid, and utterly lacking in decision-making capability. 4) I don't know if there's some backstory to this episode, but if there is it is poorly numbered. -continues-
Here's a couple good 'what-if' scenario questions: 1 - if the Arkain had attacked the Dominion, how short of a time before the Dominion forces were completely obliterated? 2 - if the Arkain had been dumb enough to try attacking the Borg, how quickly would they be assimilated by the Borg?
Yes it's low budget and the acting is from some not so great but it feels more like Star Trek than Discovery and it's more watchable than Picard so good job guys!
They do this for the Star Trek community I love it i I'm so damn grateful! I like the acting I think people are doing their best and I love seeing people grow in their craft
I thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't see any of the people that complained making any movies. They don't have the respect for what it takes to put this together.
This is a great series, intergalactic travel, and interesting inter crew relationships. Great that same sex as well as opposite relationships shown as hopefully in the future that all people respect each other regardless of who they love. The theme music is great.
I have watched the entire series. The first one had a bit to much touchy feely crap. However, after a few episode's, I found I couldn't stop watching this epic journey. Thank you for a great series. Please don't stop, This is as good as and full blown star trek series'. You should be commended for your efforts and triumphant accomplishments.
BEFORE other fan made series like ST Phase II or ST Continues... This was a VERY well made series especially considering the whole "studio" where it was produced was a trailer camper equipped with a green mat. Many of the cast members were not professional actors and ALL involved were voulenteers. As to the comments of certain viewers, I suppose the "logic" is that if two characters in the series are confirmed to be same gender oriented then it's safe to assume the rest of the crew is as well.
Naming the ship the Odyssey was the first mistake. Of course it was going to get lost for years. You should have named it the Domino's Pizza. 30 minutes or less.
Considering its a fan production, it's not too bad. They're doing the best with what they have. The gay relationship seems a bit pushed forward a bit too heavily for one episode, even in the official Trek shows later on kept hetero relationship a but more subdued, and if it got hot and heavy, then it was because of a plotpoint. So far, all I've seen is half of the first episode, so my opinion has yet to be finalized. Does the Uploader pay any attention to the comments? I have yet to see a response anywhere to anything.
lol why do you think your comment is relevant? and have you ever heard of Riker? The guy was full on hetero to everyone from day one. So no I can't see how or why they would bother with your backwards thinking comment in a universe meant to be forward thinking
I agree with the OP. They did a very good job, BUT any overkill on gay, hetero, etc... should be avoided. Too much gory violence is another trait that should be avoided. As to the jumping on a mild comment such as the OP is of no value either. If the comment was excessive, it was not, pushback is appropriate. In this case it was just virtue signalling.
The interesting thing is in TNG it's stated by Beverly Crusher that the entire human brain had been mapped. They are now able to correct for anomalies. Would that mean that a homosexual could choose to be straight? What if a parent wanted their child to be gay? It does pose some interesting possibilities.
I have to disagree with Sev, the gay relationship didnt feel forced at all and felt quite natural actually. It was obviously being featured for dramatic effect as the couple was going to be separated later. Pleasantly surprised to see the first gay Captain in a Star Trek show! Awesome!
Its true that the original series had the first televised interracial kiss in America, but what was not true was that they made the entire series about interracial kisses. If you want to portray homosexuality as no big deal in the future, you need to not make it such a big deal. Having multiple scenes in every episode that are literally dripping with it actually does the opposite of the intent.
Very well put! There is nothing subtle about any of the writing for this show. The beauty of TOS was the inclusion of issues relevant at the time without overdoing it or being preachy. One cannot say that for this or the new CBS "Star Trek Discovery." The were several episodes of Star Trek after TOS that included or hinted at LGBT without doing it in a manner that disagreed with many. I agree with some opinions that some of the heterosexual romantic scenes were over the top and hard to watch.
Roddenberry created something truly unique - of more cultural value than even many of its fans are aware. But whether by accident or design, TOS was often unsubtle, and definitely had its preachy moments.. (If you can't you conjure the brassy tones behind a Kirk Inspirational Speech in your head, i wonder how much TOS you have seen? ;)
Hmm, but very often there was a hetero love scene in many, many episodes, whether TOS, TNG, ENT, DS9... Subtle? A homosexual scene does not a series make. U sir are stupid and homophobic. U fail to see what's normal about homosexuality, and choose to see it "different". Therein lies ur issue. Plus u have piss poor logic. To even make a statement that says homosexuality is pushed to the forefront, yet not even taking note of the blatant hetero alien (Majan and Caecos) sex that happens in the same fucking episode???
The fact that they're gay didn't bother me, but it did come off like softcore porn, and had zero relevance to the plot. I didn't really care for the hetero soft porn scenes in Star Trek: Enterprise between Trip and T'Pol, either. Way too drawn out.
@@mercuryblack9531 It is not phobic to find scenes of different sexualities distasteful. That's entailed in the difference. Better to tone down all such scenes and let them be a private matter. You need more self-awareness, sir. No one has said anything against differences of sexuality. You have aimed a groundless accusation that you yourself, no doubt, deem quite serious which shows who actually is the bigot, and undermines any meaningful discussion.
Like it or not, gays are not going anywhere. I like this show. It is the spirit of Star Trek and a real version unlike the JJ Abrams garbage. Good writing. Social commentary with a real plot also. Somewhere, after DS9, that was lost. I'm glad to see it back. Think what you like. It matters not to me. I support this, and am entertained by it...for a change. And for the small-minded: NO, I am not homosexual. So, you'll have to come up with some other means of pathetic insult attempts.
actually voyager is pretty good if you give t a try. And i do think that this fan made show is really terrible but i respect that you have your own opinion
I am so impressed!! Only through episode 01 and I think the "gay duo" everyone is complaining about is the #1 thing missing in the other star treks... if the federation is civilized and accepting of other cultures, why havnt we seen these types of dynamic relationships before? Awesome job!
+SmoothRide Scooter I really liked the beginning, and you're right about the homo scenes but you can always skip them. Besides I watch it for the plot :3
Watched the first episode again for the first time in a while, for a series premiere it's still pretty good. Structurally it holds up, and does a nice job of setting up the situations and character conflicts to come.
I quite liked it, I don't know what people are saying about gay relationships or Gene Roddenberry but I think he'd be glad that Star Trek inspired people to make fan fictions like this. :)
Tv Star Trek should have had battles like this , showing the fans what these ships can really do , can u imagine following the enterprise threw a battle like this but with both sides more evenly matched unlike in the tv series the enemy seems to always be more powerful but ingeniously Star fleet still wins the day with a beat up ship
I have got to say some of these actors are better than ones in the feature films. Very good story line. It would be a shame if CBS continues their stupidity.
I guess you watched the episode with your volume muted? Sorry, but the concensus is that the acting was pretty awful. When your ridiculous hatred of CBS blinds you so much that you think this fanfiction equated to good acting, well, it's obvious you lost all of our objectivity. Maybe you've found some in the last 3 years but I doubt it. I've watched a lot of fan-made episodes with varying acting skills, but this was one of the worst. I mean, it's fan-fiction so I don't expect Academy Award performances, so I don't have sky high expectations. But c'mon -- to say that they're better than the actors in the feature films is going way beyond the pale here in your attempt to bash CBS and any Trek that isn't at least 30 years old. People need to stop with the nostalgia -- you'll never be happy living in the past. Nor will you ever be able to appreciate anything new.
@@hannable70I agree with you. You couldn’t possibly say these amateurs were better then professionals. That’s just them being biased and hating on cbs. I thought it was good for an amateur show
I know this is late, but this is a breath of fresh air! Just found it today and ots already won my heart! Love the CG and the romantic component is a great example of Star Trek's forward-thinking! Good job, guys! 🖖😎
Ok, so this is what I think. This is not great by ANY means, but it's not the worst fan made movie/show I've ever seen either. There are some highlights here, most notably (for me anyway) is the battle towards the end. That was VERY entertaining. The acting may not be great, but I have to admit, I wasn't even thinking about that during the battle scene. The other good thing here is the music. No it's not top notch, but it's still pretty impressive. It does seem to languish a bit during the first half, and I thought I heard a number of repetitive tunes, but the last half was good. Again, the music during the battle towards the end is exciting and really made those scenes shine. Now for the not so good parts, the acting, ok, I get that this is a fan made production, and probably cost $100 to make, but that shouldn't mean you have to settle for sub-par, or in some cases, downright TERRIBLE acting. There was 1-2 performances here that I genuinely enjoyed, but most, if not ALL the rest are awful. I also have to point out that while I thought the OVERALL script was just ok, there were a few moments where I was impressed. I definitely think there should have been more humor. Though, the one joke that WAS made, was actually pretty funny. But this could DEFINITELY have been improved with even a LITTLE more humor. The other big thing I had a problem with here is the forced gay couple thing. I mean seriously, do they have to spend the entirety of the first half of the show, as though they're tethered together? Or how about the lowly Lt. Cmdr who is suddenly thrust into commanding the ship. Come on, be original. anyway, I'm sorry if I sound harsh in my criticism here, but when you put something online for others to see, and critique, you have to accept that criticism. I really have a hard time understanding those people praising this thing like it's the greatest fan made production that has ever been made. No, it's not the greatest, not by a long shot. But there are some things that are worthy of praise, just don't tell me that I'm being overly critical, and try and convince me that this is award worthy. Because it's really not. P.S. I intentionally left out the criticism of specific actors/performances, I may be harsh, but I'm not trying to be a d*ck here.
The only cool thing about this series is the Starships.they need to round up all the "Fudge Packers" and put them in an airlock and "SPACE" the lot of them.Gene Roddenberry is turning in his grave about right now.
All things said and done, a very good fan-made series. Hidden Frontier, Odyssey, and Helena are all in their own right, original, well thought out series. Wish I, and I'm sure other, could see more from these artists....
As much as I love the designs of the fan-made starships, I would love to see a class of Federation starship that is unlike ANY starship seen before on Star Trek.
Why do they insist on playing unnecessary, completely forced and out of context sexual scenes and dialogs? Do they want to prove something? Anyway, this is way better than the last "thing" vomited by Netflix
The original Star Trek had televised the worlds first interracial kiss. The idea that this particular interpretation of Star Trek has now further expanded upon same sex interpersonal relationships should come as no surprise since Gene Roddenberry was a visionary regarding space exploration and pioneering of the human spirit. To Boldly Go Where None Have Gone before. Engage.
12) If he was referring instead to the Klingon ships cloak, then he really should have said so, as being specific with information delivery is kind of a mandatory job qualification for such positions anywhere. 13) And finally, at the black hole place at the end...the enemy flagship was able to completely circumnavigate the anomaly in the time it took the Odyssey to enter it, with a head start? Then why did they bother entering it in the first place?
For a fan film this is very well made. Who cares if there are gay or straight or characters practicing polyamory for that matter? I thought the gay commander was a nice touch. Since one of Star Trek's main themes was "tolerance" it shouldn't surprise anyone that the script writers added in a different type of relationship. Doesn't anyone remember Phlox from Enterprise? His wife had other husbands, and people seemed to be okay with that sort of polyamorous relationship. How is this any different?
I am with that other guy, this show is much better then Voyager, and not only that on a shoe string budget! Even the acting is better! Not to mention the plot is better, they actually had a reason to be there.
im curious as to the budget of this. was this aired or anything? cause I assume not, and therefore assume is budget is next to 0 and this is an amazing job if that's the case.
You assume right. This is a very low budget fan series that started around 2008, a spin-off from the fan series Hidden Frontier (that was itself coming from Voyages of the Angeles way back in the 90s). These guys did a lot of great stuff all on their own and with very little money.
The enemy ships are really cool. they seem to have technology that the star fleet should try to steal (because the romulans are already stealing it and they will use it against star fleet).
haha epic series! though at the 4 minute mark the alien was speaking greek (badly) something like "good day! I understand where it is -another language- good day!"
Oof, sorry to break it to you but same sex marriages and subsequent honeymoons are happening today and have been for quite some time. Try and read some news more than once in a quarter century
On any RL resemblance of wormholes, if they'd exist, they would be uncommon, and with that are under a set of rules that happen most infrequently in nature, for if it were not, the wormholes would be more common. This goes for any set of neccesities required to create an uncommon effect or even an artificial one. This then by result on those neccisties would mean that an artificial wormhole would be rather easy to destroy, not hard. Changing one of the underlying neccesities into one that no longer supports the wormhole, would cause it's collapse, or would destabilize it, or otherwise make it less trustworthy in it's ability to link one point of space to another, possibly changing the exit point. The only exclusion is that although it may be really hard to create one, once in existence, several or all of the neccesities are no longer a prerequisite to keep one, in which case the entire set is no longer valid. However, the necessities to keep a wormhole stable still underlies a then new set of neccesities, of which then one can be countered, causing collapse yet again. On this yet another exclusion, that once created a wormhole is stable, conditionless, and can't be undone, which is however highly unlikely. Also, the distance for any effect through the wormhole may still take LY of travel, in which case an endpoint bombarded with any type of solution to the source would be meaningless. If a wormhole is created artificially the chances of undoing it are greatest at the source of it's creation, not the endpoint, all other things being equal. This rests on a premise that a wormhole can or cannot be created artificially on a single point. If it needs two points, both beginning and endpoint to create one between those points requiring artificial conditions, the same for both points goes, like mentioned before, an underlying set of rules for support and creation, where those set of conditions may differ during creation and during it's existence from one another. Note: When considering any such experimentation, these should always be done during a time and place where the Earth is moving away from the phenomenon, taking both Earth's orbit around the Sun, as well as the Sun moving away from the center of the galaxy. Any weird artificial phenomenon creation, should alwasy happen where once created it would not move through the planet, but rather upward, away from the planet, not passing through the Earth. A passage connecting time and space of one position to another, would be in a fixed position when it comes to the Universe's 'idea' of coordinates. (meaning that what we think are true coordinates, may very well be moving points in respect to the Universe. and negate the relativity of things.)
I can't believe how many negative comments there are about a 20 second, standing up conversation between two people who are making out a little bit. They kiss like what, six or seven times total? Big whoop. If that offends you, but all the ridiculously over-sexualized shit in basically every tv show and movie (including Enterprise's treatment of T'Pol) doesn't? You're being homophobic, and have somehow missed the whole point of Star Trek. Don't be a bigot! I for one was super stoked to see a gay couple in this! It's super cute, and very wholesome, and they have a lot of chemistry for hobbyist-actors. I'm definitely gonna keep watching this series, it seems like such a labor of love.
Absolutely loved it, looking forward to more episodes, this is filling a massive gap for me as I want another star trek series to be made! Welldone guys!
Okay, what Tholian conflict are they talking about? Is that something from the books? As to the rest of it, though, I have to agree, this is darn well done for a fan film.
The doctor is actually a pretty good actor. As it stands, he is TV ready. Also, the guy that played the Klingon captain. Not bad at all. :) That being said: The two WORST actors are the Asian chick, and the Vulcan captain. Just terrible.
The bridge operating consoles should have been made to adjust into an up and down position, so when a crew member wants to have gay sex on his workshift, he can bend over and continue working with minimal loss of time.
Gentlemen, (and Ladies), unbelievable job!!! You have earned my sub. After watching this first episode, I am highly impressed! I continued watching episode after episode, so eagerly awaiting what was going to happen next! I've just started into season two, and I can't wait to resume watching this wonderful re-incarnation of Mr. Roddenberry's vision, and to all these people out there calling themselves "Trekkies", maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking that you should be ashamed of yourselves! I don't really believe that Gene would disapprove of socially accepting any lifestyle choices, because that's what part of his message was! Unfortunately, as Picard said, "We have grown out of our infancy!" has obviously not happened yet!
I agree but the gay issue is over played it's as bad as old war movies that threw in romance. It does nothing for the story and is misplaced in the show
I can't believe how many comments here are about the gay characters' subplot. I never cared for the mushy scenes on Star Trek (the relationship between Riker and Troi was often cringeworthy), the fact is they've been there, from "The Cage" on. Featuring a gay couple is totally consistent with Roddenberry's vision for the show. Not a few people complained about Uhura's and Kirk's kiss back in the day. If that stuff bugs you, don't watch these shows. I have to say that this show, flaws aside, isn't bad, and the same could be said for many of the fan series. I appreciate how much these folks do, for the most part on their own time with not much expectation of monetary or other such rewards. Nonetheless, the actresses who play the head alien and the Romulan officer seem to be in a contest to see who can chew the most scenery.
You have your head stuck up your ass. From the cage on huh? Name any obvious gay couple from the original series or any other star trek series. There might be a couple of hints but nothing in your face. This isn't what Roddenberry tried to do besides the fact that the acting and cinematography sucs ass MAJOR ass. The gay crap doesn't bother me near as much as the smoke rising in front of the actors for the first several minutes before there was even any fire on the bridge. This show just plain sucks.
Gary Simmons You missed my point, genius. I wasn't saying that there were gay evidently characters in the original Star Trek, I said there were scenes with romance and hints of sex. Just as folks who didn't like having to see "negro" or Chinese characters on TV didn't have to watch TOS, you don't have to watch this show.
Gay or not, I wasn't happy with the characters. First of all, they were both WAY too young to be commanders in Star Fleet. They were both kids, for crying out loud, and they acted like it., too. Neither of them were old enough to be lieutenants much less commanders. Plus, neither of them were particularly attractive, which didn't help. To have these two college-age kids entrusted by Starfleet to be doing secret stuff for the Federation and meeting in person with admirals -- and listening to their high childlike voices spewing out things that should have come from a much older set of vocal cords was really off-putting to me. Plus, if they had been 20 or 30 years older, they may have been far more mature in how they handle their relationship -- and not ripping each others' clothes off behind some cargo bins because they have 10 free minutes to be together. And who the hell complains about not having time for their honeymoon to a friggin' admiral about to give them important orders? Those two acted like two 13 year-olds in love for the first time, always hanging on each other in every scene. I'm surprised they weren't necking in front of their commanding officer. "Well, sir, you paused for a second, so I thought I'd squeeze in a kiss while you took a breath ..." It was made all the worse by the sub-par acting. For instance, their voice inflections were all wrong for the topics they were discussing, the anger scenes had little emotion behind the yelling, and a lot of other things. But having those two puppies as the main characters, gay or not, I just couldn't deal with. The immature way they conducted their romance was the final straw.
The fact that they're gay didn't bother me, but it did come off like softcore porn, and had zero relevance to the plot. I didn't really care for the hetero soft porn scenes in Star Trek: Enterprise between Trip and T'Pol, either. Way too drawn out.
I can't decide if this was more gay or ghetto. Yes, it has ah extremely low budget shot-in-my-garage vibe to it, with graphics from 1994, but on the other hand even George Takei would be like "God DAMN this is gay" with a huge grin. So to be fair I will just say that this is the gayest ghetto Star Trek I have ever seen.
This is a solid product and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes the gay themes are slapped on a tad thick but otherwise this is an excellently made fan film series. I look forward to seeing the rest of what was obviously a labor of love by those involved. Don't sweat the negative to much as haters are just doing their thing. I doubt any of them could put something so complex and intricate and then open themselves up to criticism for no money. I look forward to the rest of the series.
Great idea..horrible acting. Although same sex relations aren't a problem, I don't really think the level of "In your face" taken by the directing and story writing team is that necessary. Very nice idea though and good to see more Star Trek things being down. CGI sets are never a good idea though it's so obvious it takes away from the scenes.
For volunteer amateur actors with tiny budgets, they are adequate mostly, some are reasonable despite the script and adequate scene mix. At least they have subtitles.
Don't forget people - although many are criticising the acting - the actor's only do what the Director tells them and we only see what the Director releases.
Well, why shouldn't they have some Trek of their own? (Hey, they sat through Kirk playing kissy-face with all those space babes..) As long as it stays true to the Trek ideals...
And a lot of the time, these series completely circumvent what Star Trek is all about. We understand there are limitations production-wise...but true Star Trek fans don't need war or an opening battle to get them interested. Just my two cents. :)
I do love how Ro's earring keeps changing ears. They must have done that on purpose.
On another note, I love how much I still love this story and series even after ten years.
It surely breaks my heart to see those gorgeous absolutely stunning D'deridex Warbirds Fired upon and destroyed, and so easily! This is going to be amazing the opening scene is just great! Thank you for all your hard work you are also talented god bless you all this is why the Star Trek community is the best community in the galaxy.
Did anyone else notice that the actor (Bobby Rice) playing Nevin Ro is the same actor who played Peter Kirk (Capt James T Kirk's nephew) on Star Trek Phase 2?
I did
Noticed right away. ☝🏼😃
aye. Kept his top on for a change though! xd
Hard to not notice. I feel like he is getting typecast or a real bad luck When they pick a role for him lol... handsome young man could have any girl in starfleet, in in any generation, but always got a ball and chain of marriage (and a ball and chain with ehh even more balls at that) lol story older than time The type of guy that can have any girl usually well u know haha
The star trek Odyssey, Helena, and Hidden Frontier are so well done, that I don't even care for the original series or next generation series.
When I first saw Star Trek it was the greatest thing that ever happen to me 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 I am so happy that this series is on UA-cam
People love star trek, let them make movies and stop complaining. this is pretty creative stuff! this isnt easy! Good job guys!
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There are labors of love. This series is one, and it shows. Once again...BRAVO!!
So, I happened across this randomly, and while it's a nice effort there were quite a few...issues.
1) Your admiral was wearing a notably oversized jacket, and his badge was crooked.
2) Romulan: "This is no time for secrets." That seems...well, unlikely.
3) Your admiral seemed mind-boggingly stupid, and utterly lacking in decision-making capability.
4) I don't know if there's some backstory to this episode, but if there is it is poorly numbered.
-continues-
Damn,was getting in to it,till 9:52.
They just HAD to throw that in there, didn’t they?
Like being back with an old friend
I,ve always loved odyssey
Better than a lot of stuff I've watched while we all in home inprisonment 👍
Here's a couple good 'what-if' scenario questions:
1 - if the Arkain had attacked the Dominion, how short of a time before the Dominion forces were completely obliterated?
2 - if the Arkain had been dumb enough to try attacking the Borg, how quickly would they be assimilated by the Borg?
Yes it's low budget and the acting is from some not so great but it feels more like Star Trek than Discovery and it's more watchable than Picard so good job guys!
Picard is great, but this is better than discovery ngl
They do this for the Star Trek community I love it i I'm so damn grateful! I like the acting I think people are doing their best and I love seeing people grow in their craft
I thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't see any of the people that complained making any movies. They don't have the respect for what it takes to put this together.
This is a great series, intergalactic travel, and interesting inter crew relationships. Great that same sex as well as opposite relationships shown as hopefully in the future that all people respect each other regardless of who they love. The theme music is great.
I have watched the entire series. The first one had a bit to much touchy feely crap. However, after a few episode's, I found I couldn't stop watching this epic journey. Thank you for a great series. Please don't stop, This is as good as and full blown star trek series'. You should be commended for your efforts and triumphant accomplishments.
You guys did good with that Bolian.
BEFORE other fan made series like ST Phase II or ST Continues...
This was a VERY well made series especially considering the whole "studio" where it was produced was a trailer camper equipped with a green mat. Many of the cast members were not professional actors and ALL involved were voulenteers.
As to the comments of certain viewers, I suppose the "logic" is that if two characters in the series are confirmed to be same gender oriented then it's safe to assume the rest of the crew is as well.
Great job everyone. I appreciate all the efforts that went into making this production. Thank you.
Naming the ship the Odyssey was the first mistake. Of course it was going to get lost for years. You should have named it the Domino's Pizza. 30 minutes or less.
Considering its a fan production, it's not too bad. They're doing the best with what they have. The gay relationship seems a bit pushed forward a bit too heavily for one episode, even in the official Trek shows later on kept hetero relationship a but more subdued, and if it got hot and heavy, then it was because of a plotpoint.
So far, all I've seen is half of the first episode, so my opinion has yet to be finalized.
Does the Uploader pay any attention to the comments? I have yet to see a response anywhere to anything.
lol why do you think your comment is relevant? and have you ever heard of Riker? The guy was full on hetero to everyone from day one. So no I can't see how or why they would bother with your backwards thinking comment in a universe meant to be forward thinking
I agree with the OP. They did a very good job, BUT any overkill on gay, hetero, etc... should be avoided. Too much gory violence is another trait that should be avoided. As to the jumping on a mild comment such as the OP is of no value either. If the comment was excessive, it was not, pushback is appropriate. In this case it was just virtue signalling.
The interesting thing is in TNG it's stated by Beverly Crusher that the entire human brain had been mapped. They are now able to correct for anomalies. Would that mean that a homosexual could choose to be straight? What if a parent wanted their child to be gay? It does pose some interesting possibilities.
Little surprised to see a comment this old getting replies this far out, Lol.
I haven't heard anything new about this since I first originally saw it.
I have to disagree with Sev, the gay relationship didnt feel forced at all and felt quite natural actually. It was obviously being featured for dramatic effect as the couple was going to be separated later. Pleasantly surprised to see the first gay Captain in a Star Trek show! Awesome!
Nice original music.
Its true that the original series had the first televised interracial kiss in America, but what was not true was that they made the entire series about interracial kisses. If you want to portray homosexuality as no big deal in the future, you need to not make it such a big deal. Having multiple scenes in every episode that are literally dripping with it actually does the opposite of the intent.
Very well put! There is nothing subtle about any of the writing for this show. The beauty of TOS was the inclusion of issues relevant at the time without overdoing it or being preachy. One cannot say that for this or the new CBS "Star Trek Discovery." The were several episodes of Star Trek after TOS that included or hinted at LGBT without doing it in a manner that disagreed with many. I agree with some opinions that some of the heterosexual romantic scenes were over the top and hard to watch.
Roddenberry created something truly unique - of more cultural value than even many of its fans are aware. But whether by accident or design, TOS was often unsubtle, and definitely had its preachy moments..
(If you can't you conjure the brassy tones behind a Kirk Inspirational Speech in your head, i wonder how much TOS you have seen? ;)
Hmm, but very often there was a hetero love scene in many, many episodes, whether TOS, TNG, ENT, DS9... Subtle? A homosexual scene does not a series make.
U sir are stupid and homophobic. U fail to see what's normal about homosexuality, and choose to see it "different". Therein lies ur issue. Plus u have piss poor logic. To even make a statement that says homosexuality is pushed to the forefront, yet not even taking note of the blatant hetero alien (Majan and Caecos) sex that happens in the same fucking episode???
The fact that they're gay didn't bother me, but it did come off like softcore porn, and had zero relevance to the plot. I didn't really care for the hetero soft porn scenes in Star Trek: Enterprise between Trip and T'Pol, either. Way too drawn out.
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It is not phobic to find scenes of different sexualities distasteful. That's entailed in the difference. Better to tone down all such scenes and let them be a private matter. You need more self-awareness, sir. No one has said anything against differences of sexuality. You have aimed a groundless accusation that you yourself, no doubt, deem quite serious which shows who actually is the bigot, and undermines any meaningful discussion.
All things considered, this series has been actually really enjoyable. Good job.
Very well done, and terrific theme music! SUB CMDR T'Lorra is a great character and well acted! 10/10
Like it or not, gays are not going anywhere. I like this show. It is the spirit of Star Trek and a real version unlike the JJ Abrams garbage. Good writing. Social commentary with a real plot also. Somewhere, after DS9, that was lost. I'm glad to see it back. Think what you like. It matters not to me. I support this, and am entertained by it...for a change. And for the small-minded: NO, I am not homosexual. So, you'll have to come up with some other means of pathetic insult attempts.
After looking at some other episodes. I agree with you. I said so on another one.
actually voyager is pretty good if you give t a try.
And i do think that this fan made show is really terrible but i respect that you have your own opinion
JJ Abrams Garbage? That very statement shows you're a idiot with no taste and stuck in the past.
Another idiot speaks of what he does not know.
*****
On the internet stating an opinion is agaisnt the law
I am so impressed!! Only through episode 01 and I think the "gay duo" everyone is complaining about is the #1 thing missing in the other star treks... if the federation is civilized and accepting of other cultures, why havnt we seen these types of dynamic relationships before? Awesome job!
This is a great Star Trek fan show. Just so you know, though, it kind of is a newer type of Voyager, but I still love this!
+SmoothRide Scooter I really liked the beginning, and you're right about the homo scenes but you can always skip them. Besides I watch it for the plot :3
+TheStarTrekFiles But otherwise yeah the dialogue needs some work
star trek never promoted gay this is a fan made version so they didnt have to conform to the canon lore of star trek
A real star trek fan eh? Judging other people ain´t very cool man.
Snake1995 Gaming did u not watch the new trek series
Watched the first episode again for the first time in a while, for a series premiere it's still pretty good. Structurally it holds up, and does a nice job of setting up the situations and character conflicts to come.
I quite liked it, I don't know what people are saying about gay relationships or Gene Roddenberry but I think he'd be glad that Star Trek inspired people to make fan fictions like this. :)
This is fantastic, you guys managed to capture the magic of trek. Keep it up and make more!
Tv Star Trek should have had battles like this , showing the fans what these ships can really do , can u imagine following the enterprise threw a battle like this but with both sides more evenly matched unlike in the tv series the enemy seems to always be more powerful but ingeniously Star fleet still wins the day with a beat up ship
I see all the nasty comments, it's terrible. You know, I think this is a great jump forward.
should have wiped the brown stuff off one guys mouth.
gay sex has been aproved by the fcc, its time to push the envelope,, Bestiality Incest and Fecalfillia now need to be socially pushed
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It should have been named 'Peter Puffers in Space'. Gene is rolling over.
Bear DarkDawnActual "Peter puffers".😄
It was overplayed a tad in that area. Good show despite.
To boldly go….🥴
Shooting plasma in the aft torpedo launcher☹️
This was well done STAR TREK Mini-Series. THANKS
This continues to be one of my favorite trek fan series. It’s so original.
That was kinda bad ass. Really enjoyed it. Very cool.
When he pinned that Delta on that Romulan Sub Commander, I bet her nerves were set on fire!
I have got to say some of these actors are better than ones in the feature films. Very good story line. It would be a shame if CBS continues their stupidity.
already decided I won't subscribe till they wake up
I guess you watched the episode with your volume muted? Sorry, but the concensus is that the acting was pretty awful. When your ridiculous hatred of CBS blinds you so much that you think this fanfiction equated to good acting, well, it's obvious you lost all of our objectivity. Maybe you've found some in the last 3 years but I doubt it. I've watched a lot of fan-made episodes with varying acting skills, but this was one of the worst. I mean, it's fan-fiction so I don't expect Academy Award performances, so I don't have sky high expectations. But c'mon -- to say that they're better than the actors in the feature films is going way beyond the pale here in your attempt to bash CBS and any Trek that isn't at least 30 years old. People need to stop with the nostalgia -- you'll never be happy living in the past. Nor will you ever be able to appreciate anything new.
@@hannable70I agree with you. You couldn’t possibly say these amateurs were better then professionals. That’s just them being biased and hating on cbs. I thought it was good for an amateur show
I know this is late, but this is a breath of fresh air! Just found it today and ots already won my heart! Love the CG and the romantic component is a great example of Star Trek's forward-thinking! Good job, guys! 🖖😎
Great story telling thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you .......
Me too!!! I thoroughly enjoyed this episode
I LOVE THE MUSIC TO THIS SERIES, BUT I FOUND THE GREEN SCREEN SETS A BIT DRY.
Yep ... this is pretty good!
Well done!
Ok, so this is what I think. This is not great by ANY means, but it's not the worst fan made movie/show I've ever seen either. There are some highlights here, most notably (for me anyway) is the battle towards the end. That was VERY entertaining. The acting may not be great, but I have to admit, I wasn't even thinking about that during the battle scene. The other good thing here is the music. No it's not top notch, but it's still pretty impressive. It does seem to languish a bit during the first half, and I thought I heard a number of repetitive tunes, but the last half was good. Again, the music during the battle towards the end is exciting and really made those scenes shine. Now for the not so good parts, the acting, ok, I get that this is a fan made production, and probably cost $100 to make, but that shouldn't mean you have to settle for sub-par, or in some cases, downright TERRIBLE acting. There was 1-2 performances here that I genuinely enjoyed, but most, if not ALL the rest are awful. I also have to point out that while I thought the OVERALL script was just ok, there were a few moments where I was impressed. I definitely think there should have been more humor. Though, the one joke that WAS made, was actually pretty funny. But this could DEFINITELY have been improved with even a LITTLE more humor. The other big thing I had a problem with here is the forced gay couple thing. I mean seriously, do they have to spend the entirety of the first half of the show, as though they're tethered together? Or how about the lowly Lt. Cmdr who is suddenly thrust into commanding the ship. Come on, be original. anyway, I'm sorry if I sound harsh in my criticism here, but when you put something online for others to see, and critique, you have to accept that criticism. I really have a hard time understanding those people praising this thing like it's the greatest fan made production that has ever been made. No, it's not the greatest, not by a long shot. But there are some things that are worthy of praise, just don't tell me that I'm being overly critical, and try and convince me that this is award worthy. Because it's really not. P.S. I intentionally left out the criticism of specific actors/performances, I may be harsh, but I'm not trying to be a d*ck here.
The only cool thing about this series is the Starships.they need to round up all the "Fudge Packers" and put them in an airlock and "SPACE" the lot of them.Gene Roddenberry is turning in his grave about right now.
that would be impossible his casket was launched into space it was in the news a while back
should have been on tv great series well done ro and cory characters superb and the story lines very well done ...
WOW very impressed. This should be aired on TV
All things said and done, a very good fan-made series. Hidden Frontier, Odyssey, and Helena are all in their own right, original, well thought out series. Wish I, and I'm sure other, could see more from these artists....
As much as I love the designs of the fan-made starships, I would love to see a class of Federation starship that is unlike ANY starship seen before on Star Trek.
Why do they insist on playing unnecessary, completely forced and out of context sexual scenes and dialogs? Do they want to prove something?
Anyway, this is way better than the last "thing" vomited by Netflix
The original Star Trek had televised the worlds first interracial kiss.
The idea that this particular interpretation of Star Trek has now further expanded upon same sex interpersonal relationships should come as no surprise since Gene Roddenberry was a visionary regarding space exploration and pioneering of the human spirit. To Boldly Go Where None Have Gone before. Engage.
Roddenberry just wanted to make money and get laid.
Sounds like a worthwhile goal.
I would like to be able to watch this video with my granddaughter and others with out having to edit
the creator of star trek claimed he received advice from alien species about the future all the races in the series are ones that he saw
12) If he was referring instead to the Klingon ships cloak, then he really should have said so, as being specific with information delivery is kind of a mandatory job qualification for such positions anywhere.
13) And finally, at the black hole place at the end...the enemy flagship was able to completely circumnavigate the anomaly in the time it took the Odyssey to enter it, with a head start? Then why did they bother entering it in the first place?
Awesome work guys.
For a fan film this is very well made. Who cares if there are gay or straight or characters practicing polyamory for that matter? I thought the gay commander was a nice touch. Since one of Star Trek's main themes was "tolerance" it shouldn't surprise anyone that the script writers added in a different type of relationship. Doesn't anyone remember Phlox from Enterprise? His wife had other husbands, and people seemed to be okay with that sort of polyamorous relationship. How is this any different?
I love watching all the star trek fan made films. When the cast talks way too fast, like teenagers, makes me laugh every time.
I am with that other guy, this show is much better then Voyager, and not only that on a shoe string budget! Even the acting is better! Not to mention the plot is better, they actually had a reason to be there.
Nice job creators, I enjoyed the episode :)
Great acting and balance of characters. Loaded with action, drama and even a little humor to boot. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
im curious as to the budget of this. was this aired or anything? cause I assume not, and therefore assume is budget is next to 0 and this is an amazing job if that's the case.
You assume right. This is a very low budget fan series that started around 2008, a spin-off from the fan series Hidden Frontier (that was itself coming from Voyages of the Angeles way back in the 90s). These guys did a lot of great stuff all on their own and with very little money.
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Can anyone recommend a website that I can watch all the missing Star Trek fan made episodes?
There used to be a page here for fan made films
The enemy ships are really cool. they seem to have technology that the star fleet should try to steal (because the romulans are already stealing it and they will use it against star fleet).
But they don’t
Where can I get the theme music?! It is clearly the most authentic fan composition I’ve ever heard.
the Helena Chronicles and Hidden Frontier are good also!
This legit made me think it was part of the old Star Trek game series like Klingon Academy or Starfleet Academy.
I love this series.
haha epic series! though at the 4 minute mark the alien was speaking greek (badly) something like "good day! I understand where it is -another language- good day!"
Only thing missing was the fleet painted in rainbow colors.
I agree, I not watch this, in English, pc gone much far !
2 men : " Our honeymoon"... you must be joking... 😥😥😥
Oof, sorry to break it to you but same sex marriages and subsequent honeymoons are happening today and have been for quite some time. Try and read some news more than once in a quarter century
I liked it. Bravo!
On any RL resemblance of wormholes, if they'd exist, they would be uncommon, and with that are under
a set of rules that happen most infrequently in nature, for if it were not, the wormholes would be more common.
This goes for any set of neccesities required to create an uncommon effect or even an artificial one.
This then by result on those neccisties would mean that an artificial wormhole would be rather easy to destroy,
not hard. Changing one of the underlying neccesities into one that no longer supports the wormhole,
would cause it's collapse, or would destabilize it, or otherwise make it less trustworthy in it's ability to link one point
of space to another, possibly changing the exit point.
The only exclusion is that although it may be really hard to create one, once in existence,
several or all of the neccesities are no longer a prerequisite to keep one, in which case the entire set is no longer valid.
However, the necessities to keep a wormhole stable still underlies a then new set of neccesities, of which then
one can be countered, causing collapse yet again. On this yet another exclusion,
that once created a wormhole is stable, conditionless, and can't be undone, which is however highly unlikely.
Also, the distance for any effect through the wormhole may still take LY of travel, in which case an endpoint
bombarded with any type of solution to the source would be meaningless. If a wormhole is created artificially
the chances of undoing it are greatest at the source of it's creation, not the endpoint, all other things being equal.
This rests on a premise that a wormhole can or cannot be created artificially on a single point. If it needs
two points, both beginning and endpoint to create one between those points requiring artificial conditions,
the same for both points goes, like mentioned before, an underlying set of rules for support and creation,
where those set of conditions may differ during creation and during it's existence from one another.
Note: When considering any such experimentation, these should always be done during a time and place
where the Earth is moving away from the phenomenon, taking both Earth's orbit around the Sun,
as well as the Sun moving away from the center of the galaxy. Any weird artificial phenomenon creation,
should alwasy happen where once created it would not move through the planet, but rather upward,
away from the planet, not passing through the Earth. A passage connecting time and space of one position
to another, would be in a fixed position when it comes to the Universe's 'idea' of coordinates.
(meaning that what we think are true coordinates, may very well be moving points in respect to the Universe.
and negate the relativity of things.)
18:49 he's just given those two twinks a free pass to go re-enact Brokeback Mountain, haha.
This is better than Voyager.
Going into this, accept that its low budget. Take it for what it is, its decent for fan made.
I can't believe how many negative comments there are about a 20 second, standing up conversation between two people who are making out a little bit. They kiss like what, six or seven times total? Big whoop. If that offends you, but all the ridiculously over-sexualized shit in basically every tv show and movie (including Enterprise's treatment of T'Pol) doesn't? You're being homophobic, and have somehow missed the whole point of Star Trek. Don't be a bigot! I for one was super stoked to see a gay couple in this! It's super cute, and very wholesome, and they have a lot of chemistry for hobbyist-actors. I'm definitely gonna keep watching this series, it seems like such a labor of love.
I enjoyed it. Nice job. I'd love to see what you could do with a real budget
Absolutely loved it, looking forward to more episodes, this is filling a massive gap for me as I want another star trek series to be made!
Welldone guys!
Slipstream makes more sense than spore drive...
Okay, what Tholian conflict are they talking about? Is that something from the books? As to the rest of it, though, I have to agree, this is darn well done for a fan film.
The doctor is actually a pretty good actor. As it stands, he is TV ready. Also, the guy that played the Klingon captain. Not bad at all. :)
That being said: The two WORST actors are the Asian chick, and the Vulcan captain. Just terrible.
But, whoa, that Romulan commander is hot hot hot!
no The actor that Corey Aster is way worse than those already mentioned
i wished cbs would have hired you. you know your stuff. well done
Did anyone notice how Ro Nevin's earring kept switching from one side of his head to the other.
Two gay fellas building a probe ,,behave
I had no idea that Greeks got as far as the Andromeda galaxy.
The bridge operating consoles should have been made to adjust into an up and down position, so when a crew member wants to have gay sex on his workshift, he can bend over and continue working with minimal loss of time.
That's nice. I was actually talking about the Archeinan prayer that was in Greek. :)
I enjoy the shows, but I have a rough time with the boy/boy relationships.
Same
Gentlemen, (and Ladies), unbelievable job!!!
You have earned my sub.
After watching this first episode, I am highly impressed!
I continued watching episode after episode,
so eagerly awaiting what was going to happen next!
I've just started into season two, and I can't wait to resume
watching this wonderful re-incarnation of Mr. Roddenberry's vision,
and to all these people out there calling themselves "Trekkies",
maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking that you should be ashamed
of yourselves! I don't really believe that Gene would disapprove of
socially accepting any lifestyle choices, because that's what part
of his message was! Unfortunately, as Picard said,
"We have grown out of our infancy!" has obviously not happened yet!
I agree but the gay issue is over played it's as bad as old war movies that threw in romance. It does nothing for the story and is misplaced in the show
damn, star trek barily doesn't have sex scenes and oddly enough this one shouldn't have one either.
Oh please, Kirk couldn't keep it in his pants. That was just the beginning.
@@ensignmjs7058 Yeah, but Kirk and his lover mostly just talked. Their physical pursuits were kept behind locked doors and left to the imagination.
@@hannable70 , true. It has more to do with the broadcasting limitations and rules at the time. Otherwise more romance would have been shown.
The theme song is basically if The Magic School Bus was done in Trek Style
I only find one fault in this series; The producers need to cut out the homosexual acts.
I completely agree with Pat T. What future for a world which is much more comfortable seeing two men holding guns instead of holding hands?
I can't believe how many comments here are about the gay characters' subplot. I never cared for the mushy scenes on Star Trek (the relationship between Riker and Troi was often cringeworthy), the fact is they've been there, from "The Cage" on. Featuring a gay couple is totally consistent with Roddenberry's vision for the show. Not a few people complained about Uhura's and Kirk's kiss back in the day. If that stuff bugs you, don't watch these shows.
I have to say that this show, flaws aside, isn't bad, and the same could be said for many of the fan series. I appreciate how much these folks do, for the most part on their own time with not much expectation of monetary or other such rewards. Nonetheless, the actresses who play the head alien and the Romulan officer seem to be in a contest to see who can chew the most scenery.
You have your head stuck up your ass. From the cage on huh? Name any obvious gay couple from the original series or any other star trek series. There might be a couple of hints but nothing in your face. This isn't what Roddenberry tried to do besides the fact that the acting and cinematography sucs ass MAJOR ass. The gay crap doesn't bother me near as much as the smoke rising in front of the actors for the first several minutes before there was even any fire on the bridge.
This show just plain sucks.
Gary Simmons You missed my point, genius. I wasn't saying that there were gay evidently characters in the original Star Trek, I said there were scenes with romance and hints of sex. Just as folks who didn't like having to see "negro" or Chinese characters on TV didn't have to watch TOS, you don't have to watch this show.
Gay or not, I wasn't happy with the characters. First of all, they were both WAY too young to be commanders in Star Fleet. They were both kids, for crying out loud, and they acted like it., too. Neither of them were old enough to be lieutenants much less commanders. Plus, neither of them were particularly attractive, which didn't help. To have these two college-age kids entrusted by Starfleet to be doing secret stuff for the Federation and meeting in person with admirals -- and listening to their high childlike voices spewing out things that should have come from a much older set of vocal cords was really off-putting to me. Plus, if they had been 20 or 30 years older, they may have been far more mature in how they handle their relationship -- and not ripping each others' clothes off behind some cargo bins because they have 10 free minutes to be together. And who the hell complains about not having time for their honeymoon to a friggin' admiral about to give them important orders? Those two acted like two 13 year-olds in love for the first time, always hanging on each other in every scene. I'm surprised they weren't necking in front of their commanding officer. "Well, sir, you paused for a second, so I thought I'd squeeze in a kiss while you took a breath ..." It was made all the worse by the sub-par acting. For instance, their voice inflections were all wrong for the topics they were discussing, the anger scenes had little emotion behind the yelling, and a lot of other things. But having those two puppies as the main characters, gay or not, I just couldn't deal with. The immature way they conducted their romance was the final straw.
once i saw the gay scene i turned it off , its not for me
Some of these fan fictions have been tossing that in. Not a real fan of that but over all thought this was good
I agree, I came here as a science fiction fan, not to be subjected to the gay lifestyle/agenda, very disappointed.
Yeah I am all for to each his own but I believe that there is an agenda that they are trying to promote. Very disappointing indeed
Grow up its 2017 u disgust me people like you are a disgrace to the human race
@@adamking4003 absolutely what Roddenberry was talking about! Be who you gotta be. 👍
Holy shit! The Star Trek nerds have taken over UA-cam!
ime glad they split those two up, it was turning into the gay channel instead of star trek
Bout ruined the storyline
The fact that they're gay didn't bother me, but it did come off like softcore porn, and had zero relevance to the plot. I didn't really care for the hetero soft porn scenes in Star Trek: Enterprise between Trip and T'Pol, either. Way too drawn out.
So far, the only Star Trek fan-made series I can wrap my attention span around..
Joseph Ford Have you tried "Star Trek Continues" ?
+feenix219 Yes. Star Trek Continues is the best thing fanmade I have seen. definately check it out.
I can't decide if this was more gay or ghetto. Yes, it has ah extremely low budget shot-in-my-garage vibe to it, with graphics from 1994, but on the other hand even George Takei would be like "God DAMN this is gay" with a huge grin.
So to be fair I will just say that this is the gayest ghetto Star Trek I have ever seen.
KELLY PAYNE
well i see what you mean.
Yeah I couldn't watch this. Very ghayetto.
In the ghayetto
If you want to see graphics done in 1994 you can turn to Babylon V. This was more on the mid-00s...Mostly because Rob Caves could pull it off!
This is a solid product and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes the gay themes are slapped on a tad thick but otherwise this is an excellently made fan film series. I look forward to seeing the rest of what was obviously a labor of love by those involved. Don't sweat the negative to much as haters are just doing their thing. I doubt any of them could put something so complex and intricate and then open themselves up to criticism for no money. I look forward to the rest of the series.
Great idea..horrible acting. Although same sex relations aren't a problem, I don't really think the level of "In your face" taken by the directing and story writing team is that necessary.
Very nice idea though and good to see more Star Trek things being down. CGI sets are never a good idea though it's so obvious it takes away from the scenes.
Yeah the CGI sets reminded me of the crappier scenes in The Starlost. But I guess you work with what you've got.
For volunteer amateur actors with tiny budgets, they are adequate mostly, some are reasonable despite the script and adequate scene mix. At least they have subtitles.
Don't forget people - although many are criticising the acting - the actor's only do what the Director tells them and we only see what the Director releases.
"SPACE" THE FINAL, GAY FRONTIER, THESE ARE THE VOYAGES OF THE STAR SHIP "HOMO PRISE"!!!!!
Homophobes still existed back in 2016 LOL
Well, why shouldn't they have some Trek of their own? (Hey, they sat through Kirk playing kissy-face with all those space babes..) As long as it stays true to the Trek ideals...
And a lot of the time, these series completely circumvent what Star Trek is all about. We understand there are limitations production-wise...but true Star Trek fans don't need war or an opening battle to get them interested. Just my two cents. :)
"Go play with your little friend..." Fap, James Fap--- xD