How Broken Are Brawl's Top Tiers?

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @ZachHonest
    @ZachHonest  9 місяців тому +10

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    • @lukedl49
      @lukedl49 9 місяців тому +1

      I’m getting some tees now

  • @HeyItIsMichal
    @HeyItIsMichal 9 місяців тому +180

    Marth should be able to reflect Falco's lasers like a lightsaber.

    • @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn
      @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn 9 місяців тому +33

      Marth should be able to grab from four character spaces away.

    • @HeyItIsMichal
      @HeyItIsMichal 9 місяців тому +28

      @@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn Welp, guess Marth really is a Jedi

    • @Jimmy_Duster
      @Jimmy_Duster 9 місяців тому +3

      That’s the thing he has a sword

    • @Captain1455
      @Captain1455 9 місяців тому +2

      We can only dream about him reflecting projectiles.

    • @CipherKnighto
      @CipherKnighto 9 місяців тому +2

      That would be perfect

  • @danielapirisi6243
    @danielapirisi6243 7 місяців тому +75

    Zss's final smash is probably the worst final smash in the series, because not only it deals less then 30% but after the final smash you turn into a bottom 7 character

    • @Epic_Glacier
      @Epic_Glacier 4 місяці тому +19

      Meanwhile Samus’s final smash is by far the best in the series. K.O’s everything in front of her at 0, and turns her into a higher tier character

  • @ToshisGarden
    @ToshisGarden 6 місяців тому +34

    "Snake is like a giant mobile tank."
    ...
    ...
    You mean, like....
    METAL GEAR!?

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  6 місяців тому +7

      God Tier Comment

    • @ToshisGarden
      @ToshisGarden 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ZachHonest Thanks, I felt it just kind of wrote itself! XD

  • @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn
    @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn 9 місяців тому +93

    Justice for Snake's cake! Man was thicka than a snicka

    • @redwarrior4226
      @redwarrior4226 9 місяців тому +7

      Bad news guys, when they added Snake to Fortnite his rear got nerfed in that game too

    • @tonberry2670
      @tonberry2670 9 місяців тому

      Dude. Just look him up on rule34 if you wanna see his ass that badly

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@redwarrior4226
      Old snake saved it kinda little not really

  • @Nightwalker86
    @Nightwalker86 9 місяців тому +115

    Fun fact, I was the one who came up with ranking MK as SS tier. I got the idea from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn weapon levels, which is the first game in the series to introduce SS rank weapons.

    • @Official_BlaccGoat
      @Official_BlaccGoat 9 місяців тому +3

      proof?

    • @Nightwalker86
      @Nightwalker86 9 місяців тому +30

      @@Official_BlaccGoat nope, you just had to be in the MBR / SBR back then. This was like 2008. I'm not even sure those threads still exist on smashboards, and if they do they are restricted to mods.

    • @risingshotz3607
      @risingshotz3607 9 місяців тому +40

      source: trust me bro

    • @Official_BlaccGoat
      @Official_BlaccGoat 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Nightwalker86 I was too young at the time

    • @SchizoCannibal
      @SchizoCannibal 9 місяців тому +2

      Were you involved in PM or P+? I recognize my your name from somewhere, I just can't put my finger on it.

  • @kyleflournoy7730
    @kyleflournoy7730 9 місяців тому +19

    I was one of the people that actually thought ics got artificially boosted by mk. There was a bunch of random mid tier characters that actually had solid matchups against them
    Ike could consistently out range them
    Sonic could evade them forever with a lead
    Rob and Yoshi had the mobility and projectile combo that allowed them to engage with ics very safely.
    Toonlink was floaty and always had a bomb in his hands so chances to cg him were very limited.
    But all those characters got dumpstered by mk, so most ppl never got the chance to notice. At that point, the tier list basically just turned into a mk matchup chart

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana 9 місяців тому +47

    There's one thing I like about Snake in Brawl is that he had his own unique SFX for his punching and kicking moves. I wish they could've kept those SFX for him in Ultimate

    • @vibemasterkorosu2469
      @vibemasterkorosu2469 9 місяців тому +1

      Other characters did actually have the same feature, but it was pretty rare

    • @SSJPENGUIN
      @SSJPENGUIN 9 місяців тому +7

      Brawl's my favourite, in terms of sound design

    • @vibemasterkorosu2469
      @vibemasterkorosu2469 9 місяців тому

      @@SSJPENGUIN Ye but I think some have aged kinda poorly

  • @NintendoTV64
    @NintendoTV64 9 місяців тому +15

    Brawl Diddy Kong was definitely one of my favorite iterations of the character. He may not be as utterly OP as the Smash 4 version, but his double bananas have endless potential for messing up your opponents.

  • @santiagoossa2301
    @santiagoossa2301 3 місяці тому +7

    Nuh uh, when I was little my 11 yo cousin told me that Ganon was the best character and Olimar was the worst, and out of all the 5 people I knew, I think he was the best at brawl, so I will take his word, thanks

  • @Erasuma
    @Erasuma 9 місяців тому +6

    Great video, u seem well informed. Small tidbit I wanna add is that Falco side-b was a big part of his neutral and a big buff from Melee

  • @TommasoGabisi
    @TommasoGabisi 7 місяців тому +3

    Meta knight's down smash in brawl was frame 5 on the first hit and frame 10 on the second hit, you are not going to belive this but in ultimate it was buffed to be frame 4 on the first hit and frame 9 on the second hit (and yeah, it's the fastest smash attack in the game and the series) in ultimate this move is as fast as his jab, is 1 frame faster than shulk's and incineroar's jabs (their fastest move) and even the back hit is 1 frame faster than king dedede's jab

  • @TommasoGabisi
    @TommasoGabisi 5 місяців тому +3

    Fun fact: olimar had the biggest rise in brawl, he was ranked at 18th place as a mid tier when the game first came out and then he became a top 3 character

  • @BuddyHolly94-e4j
    @BuddyHolly94-e4j 9 місяців тому +6

    0:01 Honest Content Asmr Confirmed lol anyways awesome vid!

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 9 місяців тому +6

    Brawl's top tiers are probably the strongest top tiers in the entire franchise.
    Brawl MK is still the strongest character in Smash, Brawl Snake is just a stage control monster, Olimar is just don't touch the ground, the Ice Climbers are just don't get grabbed, ZSS is just grab the items, Pikachu is just don't get grabbed again, Marth is just stay away, Diddy is just banana means you are F'ed.

  • @CipherKnighto
    @CipherKnighto 9 місяців тому +6

    At least with Meta Knight people knew the matchup like the back of their hand early into the meta. So I think he must’ve been more tolerable for that reason despite being better than Sm4sh Bayonetta and Steve

  • @TommasoGabisi
    @TommasoGabisi 5 місяців тому +4

    The only weakness of snake in brawl is the fact that his jump squat is fricking frame 9 which is the slowest in the series

    • @BRINGTHEDOISE
      @BRINGTHEDOISE 3 місяці тому

      Alongside meele bowser

    • @TommasoGabisi
      @TommasoGabisi 3 місяці тому

      Actully melee bowser's is 1 frame faster

  • @crocworks
    @crocworks 9 місяців тому +3

    Hoping to learn more about mid tiers in another video.
    I'm certainly no pro at Brawl or anything, but something I'm curious about is why Toon Link is a mid-tier in Brawl. When I was a young kid, it always seemed like he was fast enough to just kite away anything that approaches, and the forward/back aerials were fast enough to knock someone away who tried to approach. Snake and Olimar are always praised for their projectiles, and yet Toon Link is even faster at clogging up the screen with them.
    And correct me if I'm wrong, but Meta Knight's sword has transcendent priority, meaning that projectiles would go through it if I understand correctly? So I always thought Toon Link did decently specifically in that matchup too. (To be fair, this is from many years ago, and I haven't touched the game in over a decade)

    • @CosmykTheDolfyn
      @CosmykTheDolfyn 9 місяців тому +2

      Basically, Toon Link is mid high tier, 13th. He lacks KO power, easy to whiff punish if he does go for a Ko option, his smash attacks can be DI'ed out of so you never get the strong final hit and his lack of range means he has no options for Meta Knight. Meta Knight just hard counters him in every way. No grab game as well.
      But, as you mentioned, he has a lot of good traits as well and placed well in tournaments where Meta Knight is banned.

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 9 місяців тому

      @@CosmykTheDolfyn Yeah, pretty much. I mained TL back when I played Brawl, and MK/Snake were always a foil. I honestly think Link did better against Snake, as bad as he was, since he's pretty heavy himself, and can counter Snake's camping with his own camping. His down-air was also incredibly powerful. If Snake did try to approach, zair was a good shut down tool.

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 9 місяців тому +3

      His lack of KO power and predictable recovery. Powershielding is also much easier in brawl and His projectiles are very slow, add a very punishable grab into the mix and you’re left with a character design that is almost entirely shut down by good blocking. He also had some very polarizing match-ups like DDD.

  • @PeppySweetheart
    @PeppySweetheart 9 місяців тому +3

    This is such a homey channel. Its so simple and sweet

  • @reydelacruz4220
    @reydelacruz4220 9 місяців тому +4

    I like the falco idle impersonation :45 😂😂

  • @JoshSaysStuff
    @JoshSaysStuff 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for making this, I missed out on the Brawl era and it’s pretty fascinating to look into!

  • @HMZeroTwo
    @HMZeroTwo 9 місяців тому +8

    We know the answer: really, really broken

  • @ZombieChicken1310
    @ZombieChicken1310 9 місяців тому +4

    Finally some shotouts to my boy Olimar 🌱

  • @mippymagic8317
    @mippymagic8317 9 місяців тому +2

    This channel is way too underrated

  • @lukedl49
    @lukedl49 9 місяців тому +4

    Ok opening with the original song. I dig it

  • @mokeymok958
    @mokeymok958 9 місяців тому +3

    i would love a video about brawl zss. easily my favorite character in all of smash. great mobility and really cool item play

  • @susiehaltmann3342
    @susiehaltmann3342 9 місяців тому +6

    I can explain snakes up tilt. “Whenever Snake is in a ten feet range his ASS CHEEKS become a lethal weapon. You see, within 6 frames, Snake will lift his leg causing his ASS CHEEKS to clap in quick succession. Because of how fast his ASS CHEEKS clap together, it creates a shockwave that travels to the opponent. And thus, the energy that comes from his ass via shockwave is so massive, that it sends the opponent upwards”- UR2SLOW
    Its so disappointing that snake’s GYAT is gone

  • @joshtheryuk
    @joshtheryuk 4 місяці тому

    I remember the first time i played the game with my brother as a young teen.
    We played a match with him using Meta Knight and me using Pit.
    Needless to say, my brother that didn't even knew how to play the game almost beat me.
    Even young me was like "wtf is wrong with this character his attacks are almost instant"

  • @brent6470
    @brent6470 9 місяців тому +2

    Love the sa2b music. Keep up the heat

  • @DrMDC
    @DrMDC 9 місяців тому +2

    Brawl Snake is my favorite Smash character of all time

  • @Aeirion
    @Aeirion 9 місяців тому +1

    Handoffs, the long awaited sequel.

  • @scooter9537
    @scooter9537 9 місяців тому

    Pikimin are based on the terrain, so youd get a lot more broken ass yellows on frigate for example

  • @reddevn
    @reddevn 9 місяців тому

    All u gotta do as falco is Short hop double laser in to BDACUS
    i main falco so i would know

  • @0f128
    @0f128 9 місяців тому +2

    I miss brawl snake

  • @ninja1167.
    @ninja1167. 9 місяців тому

    The flowers on olimar's pikmin actually don't help him at all, that's just aesthetic

  • @jesuisunstroopwafel
    @jesuisunstroopwafel 9 місяців тому

    How broken are Diddy's banana peels as part of another character's kit? Or as a solo character?

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 9 місяців тому +1

      There are many infinites and high damage combos.

  • @impreza316
    @impreza316 9 місяців тому

    you forgot to mention snakes grenade stripping. such a powerful (and broken) mechanic

    • @sbsb7352
      @sbsb7352 9 місяців тому +3

      He still showed it a couple times 6:19 for example. Tbh I think most people know the tech because Snake even has this stuff in other smash games

    • @impreza316
      @impreza316 9 місяців тому

      @@sbsb7352he def cannot do this in ultimate. and that’s the only other smash game snakes been in

    • @sbsb7352
      @sbsb7352 9 місяців тому

      @@impreza316 project m I meant but yea you right not ultimate

  • @sophial7261
    @sophial7261 3 місяці тому

    whats the song at 19:13 called ?

  • @mkcstealth7624
    @mkcstealth7624 3 місяці тому

    I personally want a mod that adds Nana to Meta Knight so he can finally wobble

  • @krypto9071
    @krypto9071 9 місяців тому +1

    What's the song that plays at 0:20

    • @ThrowAway-gu2lw
      @ThrowAway-gu2lw 6 місяців тому

      Sonic Adventure 2 - Dry Lagoon theme

  • @CorbinLeonard-rp4et
    @CorbinLeonard-rp4et 9 місяців тому +1

    Getting chain grab in real life how long is this beat up going to take every one get this over with or we call the cops

  • @KenyionDouglas
    @KenyionDouglas 21 день тому

    What about Pit's side special

  • @doot6538
    @doot6538 3 місяці тому

    Hold up the song tho???🔥🔥 1:50

  • @vulpinitemplar5036
    @vulpinitemplar5036 9 місяців тому

    Still love that Brawl's Meta Knight is basically just in the wrong game :b

  • @Freeraining-og7uh
    @Freeraining-og7uh 9 місяців тому

    I say the 2022 brawl tier list seems more accurate

  • @susiehaltmann3342
    @susiehaltmann3342 4 місяці тому +1

    Apparently Snakes Up-Tilt is like the way it is, is because Snakes model was supposed to be bigger. Which 1. He would’ve been even bigger than he already is. And 2. His head would’ve been like inside the battlefield platforms which would’ve been really funny

  • @ObjectorOfThings
    @ObjectorOfThings 4 місяці тому

    9:24 No Pause?

  • @thegreathuntdini6157
    @thegreathuntdini6157 2 місяці тому

    Ice Climber main for life!

  • @dravendfr
    @dravendfr 3 місяці тому

    6:09 Look how they massacred my boy…

  • @Thecheesymustardman
    @Thecheesymustardman 3 місяці тому

    Meta knight is so good in the meta even his name is META knight 💀

  • @ShaunMoore
    @ShaunMoore 9 місяців тому +1

    Brawl Top Tiers are Winnable!

  • @nathanmadox3364
    @nathanmadox3364 9 місяців тому +2

    Still a better game than smash 4 and just about as good as ultimate

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 9 місяців тому +2

      Gameplay aside, brawl is a better game for than ultimate. It has way more content, Ultimate just has way better gameplay thats it honestly

  • @emilyharrison5109
    @emilyharrison5109 9 місяців тому +4

    Dang Zach can sing, wow

  • @ShaunMoore
    @ShaunMoore 9 місяців тому

    Snake Is The 3rd Heaviest.

  • @giorgioguercio3331
    @giorgioguercio3331 9 місяців тому +1

    Brawl top tiers are the best in the series lol

  • @SchizoCannibal
    @SchizoCannibal 9 місяців тому +1

    Dude I've been getting into brawl recently and Meta Knight really IS as bad as people say he is. He just throws out moves and WINS.
    And the game is strangely balanced. But in like a bad way. Ganondorf is far from "viable", but he can stand his ground a lot better than you'd expect.

  • @LikelyHexoadine
    @LikelyHexoadine 9 місяців тому +1

    lmaooo that intro

  • @anonymouscausethatshowirol828
    @anonymouscausethatshowirol828 3 місяці тому

    Almost all of these characters have “good at not playing the game” as one of their main strengths. Overpowered MK or not, this game was never going to have a good competitive scene

  • @whydoyougottahavthis
    @whydoyougottahavthis 9 місяців тому

    WOOOOOOO COCAINE AND ROBBIN IS THE BEST SINGLE TRACK EVARRRR

  • @thepooroldsoul8179
    @thepooroldsoul8179 7 місяців тому

    Meta Knight.
    *video ends*

  • @cfino9
    @cfino9 9 місяців тому

    Can confirm; olimar is the most annoying character to play against.

    • @cfino9
      @cfino9 9 місяців тому

      Also the flowers do nothing.

  • @Drko_Kane
    @Drko_Kane 9 місяців тому +1

    Falco is a brawler with a 🔫

    • @Idk_idc808
      @Idk_idc808 9 місяців тому

      Bayonetta has a gun 4 fun
      Joker wields a gun ultimately

  • @isayahjenkins8922
    @isayahjenkins8922 9 місяців тому

    Hmmmm, up tilt

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 9 місяців тому

    Very

  • @DOC_951
    @DOC_951 9 місяців тому +3

    I think you should focus on just recording voice over… adding yourself on camera doesn’t really add anything or enhance your content. You come across as too nervous and shaming, and I you don’t know what to do with your hands.
    It’s just completely unnecessary and doesn’t seem to suit your personality

    • @sbsb7352
      @sbsb7352 9 місяців тому

      hard disagree

  • @Quackra
    @Quackra 9 місяців тому +1

    Came in at 69 viewers

  • @rakanelafrangi161
    @rakanelafrangi161 9 місяців тому +1

    Your really coming into your own, you can make plenty of videos like this.
    Just change up and experiment with upload times and algorithm and I think you can be a big youtuber