A religious mob killing a teacher because they think the content of her institution's library is a direct challenge to their beliefs? Glad I don't live in a time or country where that seems possible 😕
👏👏 excellent woke performance. You're a repentant yet permanent resident of America, you've signalled. Won't somebody think of the teachers?? It's much more moral to kill people and destroy property for ideological reasons rather than religious. Great work!
Hi love your work, i was wondering if you could do a response vid to a fellow youtube historian the metatron, he did a recent vid on homosexuality in ancient greece and i was wondering if his points were valid, thanks
I probably won't do a response video, simply because it's not really the kind of thing I want to do with my channel. But here are my thoughts. So he's right about a few things. Specifically the difficulty of using modern terminology to describe binary sexuality in a way that would have probably been alien to the actual Greeks. And, that saying "Ancient Greeks believed this" is inherently problematic as Greece was not a single homogenous states or culture". However, I found it weird that he was reacting not to a historical interpretation, but to a journalistic article. His Criticisms are often valid, but can be applied to almost all mainstream surface level articles about history. Very few cite their sources, or offer a large variety of interpretations. This is the case for journalism in all fields. I think it's a little harsh to characterise them as ideology pushing liars simply because their article isn't the kind of thing a professional historian would write. He seems to argue against the idea that ancient Greece was some kind of LGBTQ "utopia", which.... like fair it probably wasn't, but I don't think even the article was getting at that. I think the point rather is that same sex relationships existed, are fairly prominent in our sources, and were relatively uncontroversial. Many of his interpretations are valid. It's perfectly possible that Achilles and Patroclus were not lovers in Homer's imagination, or that Sappho has a husband. Although I personally think that Sappho wrote her poetry from her own perspective and that there's plenty more reasons to interpret Achilles and Patroclus' relationship as romantic than "when Patroclus died, Achilles was sad". I don't think it's a crime against good history for a journalistic article to refer to this uncritically, especially when the Greeks themselves clearly came to interpret them this way. One of his statements I take real issue with is the claim that a relationship between men of equal age and position would not have been accepted in ancient Greece. Examples of relationships that are not explicitly pederastic can be found in Plato's Symposium (during Pausanias' speech), the story of Harmodios and Aristogeiton, Alexander and Hephaestion etc.
Some people scoff at me but I think Wikipedia is the greatest accumulation of human knowledge ever. Of course it's not perfect but neither was half the books from the Library of Alexandria No book is ever perfect. But it's d*** good. As long as your looking up normal things.
It’s nice to have you back making great content! Can’t wait to see what you’ll make in the future!
Another great video, already looking forward to the next one
Mmm nice pace on videos. Keep it up and I'll give you algorithm stimulus.
Aye I’m hoping to keep it up
If the wrong Muslim finds pre-Islamic scrolls in the desert, it might get burned before any thinking adult takes custody of it.
Sad
@@claudeyaz Budda statues anyone?
@@eugenehong8825 yep many of those destroyed as well ..oh and cultural revolution destruction..also sad
That is a petty excuse for colonialism? The British museum does not need your help. They have the money and the royal navy on their side.
@@papalol1327try to use your brain before you share with the world lol 😂
also the library of old Kiev after the eastern hordes came thu raiding and pillaging in 1240
Mongols
A religious mob killing a teacher because they think the content of her institution's library is a direct challenge to their beliefs? Glad I don't live in a time or country where that seems possible 😕
👏👏 excellent woke performance. You're a repentant yet permanent resident of America, you've signalled. Won't somebody think of the teachers??
It's much more moral to kill people and destroy property for ideological reasons rather than religious. Great work!
Hi love your work, i was wondering if you could do a response vid to a fellow youtube historian the metatron, he did a recent vid on homosexuality in ancient greece and i was wondering if his points were valid, thanks
I probably won't do a response video, simply because it's not really the kind of thing I want to do with my channel. But here are my thoughts.
So he's right about a few things. Specifically the difficulty of using modern terminology to describe binary sexuality in a way that would have probably been alien to the actual Greeks. And, that saying "Ancient Greeks believed this" is inherently problematic as Greece was not a single homogenous states or culture".
However, I found it weird that he was reacting not to a historical interpretation, but to a journalistic article. His Criticisms are often valid, but can be applied to almost all mainstream surface level articles about history. Very few cite their sources, or offer a large variety of interpretations. This is the case for journalism in all fields. I think it's a little harsh to characterise them as ideology pushing liars simply because their article isn't the kind of thing a professional historian would write.
He seems to argue against the idea that ancient Greece was some kind of LGBTQ "utopia", which.... like fair it probably wasn't, but I don't think even the article was getting at that. I think the point rather is that same sex relationships existed, are fairly prominent in our sources, and were relatively uncontroversial.
Many of his interpretations are valid. It's perfectly possible that Achilles and Patroclus were not lovers in Homer's imagination, or that Sappho has a husband. Although I personally think that Sappho wrote her poetry from her own perspective and that there's plenty more reasons to interpret Achilles and Patroclus' relationship as romantic than "when Patroclus died, Achilles was sad". I don't think it's a crime against good history for a journalistic article to refer to this uncritically, especially when the Greeks themselves clearly came to interpret them this way.
One of his statements I take real issue with is the claim that a relationship between men of equal age and position would not have been accepted in ancient Greece. Examples of relationships that are not explicitly pederastic can be found in Plato's Symposium (during Pausanias' speech), the story of Harmodios and Aristogeiton, Alexander and Hephaestion etc.
@generichistory thanks for the response very thoughtful of you
I ate all the books, sorry❤
How dare you!
Yeah, you didn’t leave any for the rest of us!
Some people scoff at me but I think Wikipedia is the greatest accumulation of human knowledge ever.
Of course it's not perfect but neither was half the books from the Library of Alexandria
No book is ever perfect. But it's d*** good.
As long as your looking up normal things.
Shhhh!
You uh
You need a bigger bookshelf
More books > new bookshelf
Sounds like Muslim logic.
Sound like christcuck logic