Thank for the reviews man... I'm super stoked I was able to get a gently used explore 40 for $75 with 2 small cubes. I can't wait to take it out on a hike.
Thanks for going through the features of the bag. I too like the fact that you can set the outside face down and approach the equipment through the 'back' of the pack - especially given there are so many instances where you have to lay it over a damp section. They seemed to have designed the laptop holder in a secure fashion as well. I think you'd have to purchase a separate rain cover if you wanted it - having a convenient rain cover included would be nice.
I visited the only retail vendor of Atlas bags in the PNW, determined to purchase the Atlas Athletic. I have been romancing this bag for over a year. Much to my dismay, the Athletic was too shallow for my D850. The only option was the Atlas adventurer, which was way too big for day-hikes. I came home with the Shimoda, and I can't wait to take it out! My partner was afraid I was going to sleep with it tonight. Another great bonus is the adjustable height. My partner is 6'3", I am 5'3". With the adjustable shoulder height, we can both carry this bag - huge bonus points!
Thanks for the review. Fortunately my local camera shop in New Zealand stocks the bag. I am going to look at it. Fully agree about the water bottle holder on the outside (had a water bladder that leaked and caused 1,200 NZD worth of damage to my camera - insurance covered it, but not the loss of photography opportunity). This factor my be a deal killer.
Great video! I just got the mountainsmith tanuck 40L. took it on the field and noticed how heavy this bag is... 5lbs + the ICU makes it to a 5.5lbs just the bag. Shimoda 3lbs including ICU... I'm going to return this tanuck bag. thank you for the informative video.
Thank you for this review Mark. I really appreciated it. I hadn't heard of this bag or brand until yesterday when I watched Simon Baxter's latest video and saw the branding and loved the look. Your review came up first on a Google search so congrats on your SEO! I've been using the Peak Design 30L for a while now and have never really liked it that much. It is more of an every day bag, which is what I wanted, but I struggle to fit what I need into it. I'd love the 40L Shimoda for every day, but the water bottle's an issue, and I'd love the waist straps to be removable.
Just in time. I've been trying to decide between this, Mountainsmith Borealis 35L, and F-Stop Ajna where couple of days travel clothes and camera gear can fit.
Mine came with two small inserts and I really hate this setup. Wondering if I should order medium insert for $79 or sell it and take the loss and get Mindshift backlight or Lowepro Protactic 450 which I seem to love (tried friends) after using this Shimoda on couple of trips. With Out of Moab coming soon I am confused :-)
glad you like yours. I purchased one myself. I like some features of it, not a good fit for me. Overall Im disapointed with it. Still looking for my "perfect"bag
Yep - I think were always on the lookout for the perfect camera bag - not sure if there will ever be one since it's such a personal thing, but it doesn't stop us from holding out hope! Thanks for the comment Aaron!
So I got the bag, but I also have the mindshift backlight 36L and I'm torn. I love the design of the Shimoda but it's bigger and bulkier than the mindshift and yet I struggle to fit all my gear that I have on the mindshift. Also, I find the EVA padding is not as protective as the traditional dividers so I need to be more careful with putting the bag down. I'll give it a a few more opportunities but I might be selling the Shimoda and sticking to the mindshift. We'll see.
The problem with their inclusion of water bladder spot (F-Stop has the same issue) is the weight distribution is all wrong for long hikes anyway. The heaviest weights should be close to your back and as low as possible to improve centre of gravity. Also as the bladder empties, the weight of the pack against your back squeezes the water out the straw. With these bags, you have 3 kilos suspended away from your back levering you backwards.
I've been struggling (for years) with a rucksack that just doesn't fit me properly and that doesn't have a proper / stable way of attaching my tripod. Of the bags reviewed, I liked the look of the Shimoda best. Coincidentally, they were making their first appearance at the UK's 2019 Photography Show last weekend, so we drove up to Birmingham to see if it was as good in real life as it looked on screen. I can live without a dedicated water bottle pouch and I tend to use waist straps to keep bags stable as I'm a larger-framed bloke and I carry heavy medium format film kit as well as a DSLR. Anyway, it's about as perfect as it could be for me, so I'm delighted that I saw your review. Thank you.
I like the backpacks which open on this side, so you can put them also on wet grounds, use your gear and put them back so that your back stays clean and dry, I need to change mine in future for one of those.
Thanks for the review Mark. Though I don't own one of those, I have been comparing. I like the multiple camera access of this bag. The lack of a water bottle could be a deal killer for me, like for the other Mark below. But I was thinking: can't the accessory pocket, which seems designed for a tripod, be used for a water bottle, in the absence of a tripod?
Hi Mark, so you have been playing with both the Shimoda bags, the explore and also the Action - which is the better all-rounder in your opinion? Cheers, Andy.
Hi Mark. Thanks for this video and the others you have produced. I always look forward to your content. You’ve sold me on the Shimoda bag, however, I’m struggling with which size bag to order. I carry a D810, the trinity of lenses, a panning head & rail and much of the same accessories you do. I generally day hike, and don’t pack camping gear. How did you arrive at the 40L? Have you ever experienced any limitations where you wish you had the 60L? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments.
Loved the review - and I may buy this as the price I can buy it for is US$200 less than the Atlas Athlete. However I would mention that after 4 trips to Nepal, 2 x Iceland, Kyrgystan, Myanmar, Cambodia, all over China etc. etc. the VAST majority of people use water bottles and not bladders which can become dangerous bacteria breeding grounds if not cleaned properly (which most people don't do). So I'm with you, a couple of pockets as per the LowePro Flipsides 350/450 would be brilliant and improve this no end.
hi, very informative video thank you. agree with what @Kevin say, I guess bladders are more for running, biking (more active stuff than hiking) not saying that as a wildlife photographer when you're hidden in your spot, with your bag around it's not possible to drink with this system. I have the old f-stop Loka (probably designed by Ian) which have pocket for water bottle why change ? So where do you put your bottle of water ? cheers.
@@roybon4424 I know Mark recommended I buy the X Action but it wasn't available in my country of residence and was extremely expensive to import. So I bought the Explore 40L. The bag is very good and gets compliments from other photographers. However I'd change it for the X in a second. I should note though that I've been able to use the top right stretchy pocket on the strap for a small (700ml, no more, thinner better than wider) water bottle when hiking (it's surprisingly stretchy and robust) and the bag on the side that's primarily for storing the tripod can easily hold a large bottle or even two. Not ideal as I have to find another way to store the tripod but if you prefer bottles to a bladder it's a possible solution.
I wish the waist belts were removable. It's great for hiking but annoying (they flap around) when you're in the city. I also wish there's a 30L version. I love the colours though.
Please, please, please, Ian Millar, introduce colours of black; navy; or moss green. I wish to purchase one immediately, but I am waiting for more sober colours which will go with my outdoor clothing. It looks like a fantastic pack, otherwise, in the meantime, I shall wait...
I am very confident if you were to introduce darker and sober colours that these packs would fly off the shelves. Your current light/coloured navy does not work for me. They border on the feminine for me. I'm your customer, I want to buy. But it has got to be a colour that I can live with Ian. Thank you, for your reply...
Great review Mark and I agree with much of what you said. I have the 40L and would have liked a flip top like on the 60L. Also a zippered pocket on at least one of the hip bolsters would have been good. All minor things really. I got the roller as well and keep my laptop and gear in there when hoofing it thru the airport and that works great, getting much of the weight off my back. The only other thing I hope @shimodadesigns does is come out with a large core unit for photographers like me that carry an attached long lens. Using a large ICU from another bag and it works, but I like Shimoda's core unit design.
Thanks Jason! And, glad you enjoyed the video! I've been thinking about the roller bag a lot lately - so when you travel you carry your 40L on your back and bring the roller bag as well? Do you check the roller bag or carry both on?
Yep, I bring both as carry ons. I put my clothes and other stuff in the 40L and all the gear in the roller which makes it so much easier traveling. Then when I get to the destination I swap everything. I've done 2 trips so far like this and it's been a breeze. Both bags fit in the overhead, but on one trip I had the 40L under the seat because space was at a premium on that particular flight.
Great video as usual Mark. I have a question and that is do you know if a Capture Pro Clip made by Peak Design would fit on the upper portion of the strap. It has to be fairly narrow for it to work. If your not familiar with the this item I would appreciate if you could measure the narrowest spot and let me know. I like to carry my camera out side the bag when I’m roaming around and with this Clip it works perfect. Thank you.
Hello Mark, are the packs heavy? I was thinking about getting the 65 or 40 litre I am 6' 2" would that one fit into a piece of hand luggage to take on board the aeroplane? And.... the issue about the colours of the packs. I find the colours of the packs absolutely disgusting. Is there any plans to use any sensible colours in the future?
Awesome review, really love the bag, the only problem for me is, Im a short guy and i go very minimal. Now Shimoda just released at size 30L!!!! would love to see a review?!?!!!
Hi Mark, I'm thinking of getting this bag but the only that is putting me off is the laptop sleeve. You mentioned it can fit your 15 inch mac book but snug. I'm kinda worried since I have an dell xps 15 and it won't fit since it's a little bit thicker your mac book.
Ricky Le It probably wouldn’t fit if it’s thicker, but the new Shimoda Action X collection actually has a 16” laptop sleeve that you might want to check out.
Hey Mark! Amazing videos brother! I just picked this bag up, and have used the Tilopa in the past. Have you used FStop bags before? How do they compare to you? To me...this one is much more comfortable. I do like the aesthetics of the FStops a tad better...but that's not everything! Thanks in advance, Andrew
Andrew Marshall Thanks man! Glad you’re enjoying the videos👊 Prior to the Shimoda I used the Fstop Ajna bag for about a year and you’re right - Shimoda is way more comfortable! Overall I like the Shimoda better, mainly because of the comfort and the fact that I can access a couple small pockets while I’m wearing the pack - couldn’t do that with the Ajna.
Mark - It was a pleasure to meet you and talk on our Out of Moab excursion to Corona Arch. I enjoyed our conversation about Shimoda bags and other topics. I bought the 40L at the conference and love it. I have found it to be an incredibly well designed bag. Scott
Photitect It was great meeting you as well Scott! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the bag - it’s like a fine wine and just keeps getting better & better - lol!
Is this pack suitable for someone that is short (5'6"), or is the 30L more appropriate? I need to pack 2 Sony mirrorless cameras, filters/filter holder, 100-400mm, 12-24mm, and 24-70mm lenses, plus the usual stuff (remote, batteries, cards, etc.). Also, which insert do you recommend?
Larry Marshall Photography With your setup I’d say go with the 40L, it’s not an overly large bag and should fit you fine. I use a combination of the medium core unit along with the small - works great👍
This looks like such a good bag Mark it has to go on my list of kit to purchase in the future. But does it go before the wide angle lens? What do you think mate?
Chris Sale Oh that’s a tough one, Chris! The photographer in me says you got to go with the lens as this will aid in the actual photography side of photography, but nothing feels better than getting a new photography bag! It’s a tough choice!
Hi Mark! Thank you so much for this video! I would like to know if you ever found it annoying when you try to take out your camera while hiking? To me that's the biggest improvement on Action X but it is so pricey and now I am considering the Wandrd PRVK 31 but don't think the comfort can match the shimoda explore. Would love to know your opinions. Thanks again!
Mark, I'm loving the reviews of the Shimoda bags, and am starting small by ordering a core unit and accessory pouch from Shimoda to use in my F-Stop Sukha until I can pick up one of their bags. I really like their philosophy, but one of my pet peeves is yours as well: water bottle carrying. With my Sukha, I attached an old Lowepro pouch capable of carrying a 32 oz Nalgene to the shoulder harness--not an ideal location, and limiting visibility at times, but it works. (F-Stop's water bottle holder looks insufficient.) Have you found a good solution on your Shimoda 40L, please?
Hi, Todd - Ian Miller from Shimoda was telling me about a flex bottle with a tube that others have used in the mesh pocket on the right harness strap. Seems like a good option, but I haven’t purchased one yet.
If the bag had a mesh pocket large enough for a 1.5P bottle on opposite site of tripod to balance the weight of tripod that would have made it a perfect bag Can we attach a top attachment cover like an Alpine bag and a strap at the bottom for a tent and sleeping bag?
Babar Asghar Yep. The bag has additional attachment points and the best part is that Shimoda send the additional straps with the bag for no additional charge - a nice touch👍
Shimoda needs to collaborate with osprey to come up with the perfect bag (doesn’t exist). I shove a pd messenger bag into my osprey when I hike. It’s not ideal for access but you can’t beat the comfort of the suspension system on long hikes. I often find myself on 5-15 mile hikes to get to the best waterfalls and comfort is number one priority.
Hey Mark! Another great video! I’m looking for a travel/hiking bag. I’d like one that can carry my camera and everything for at least a day hike. Would you recommend the atlas adventure large frame or the shimoda 60l? I have a canon 5dm4 with the trinity lens setup.
Hi Mark! thanks for this review. Super informative. Was wondering where you placed your tripod. I've been looking for a bag that doesnt scream "photographer" with expensive gear inside as well, but the thing I think that gives it away is the tripod strapped on the outside. I was wondering if the tripod is able to fit within the bag. I'm using a Mefoto Globetrotter carbon fiber tripod currently. Would appreciate if you give some feedback. Thanks!
2ksheng Glad you enjoyed the video! I’m not sure how long the specific tripod you mentioned is but I’m sure there’s a way you could fit it inside the bag itself.
Mark Denney so many options in sub $300 Lowepro Whistler Shimoda 40L F-stop Ajna F-Stop Tilopa But I think Whistler n Shimoda are best options with Shimoda winning overall functionality ... I need a bag big enough for Nikon D850, Tamron 15-30, Tamron 24-70, 70-200 f2.8 USD and Nikon 200-500 with a filter set. I can barely fit all this in a 20L bag (Lowepro Flipside 20L Sport) so I think in Shimoda it will be an easy fit with Fstop Large ICU equivalent.
Hey Mark, thanks for the review, I was wondering if you have tested this bag under the rain? Do I need a waterproof cover under unpredicted rain? Thanks in advance man.
Thanks for the video . I just received my 40l today.. I find it difficult to access my gear if I don't set my bag on the ground (for example, just swinging the bag to the front along the waist straps). I reckon it's due to the direction of the opening to the side.. zippers access is totally impossible to get to. Do you have any get around for that?
Water bottle vs. bladder: The bladder would be full on the start of your trip, and so would a bottle- so what difference does it make? You aren't picking up things along the way where you would need the space left by the bladder as you drink your water.
Lukaiel Reece-Sullivan Really appreciate that - glad you enjoyed it! I personally like the Shimoda over the Ajna bag. Both are great, but the Shimoda bag has a couple great features that the Ajna doesn’t like the side opening rear access point and the small pockets on the harness.
Mark, when you do a backpack review, it would be really helpful if you actually put it on so we can see how it rides. Kind of like demoing a car without driving it and just showing us what fits in the trunk.
Hi Mark, does having your 15" Macbook pro in the dedicated laptop sleeve on the back panel effect the comfort of the pack in any way? Does it make the back panel too rigid or is there plenty of allowance for such things and there's no difference on the back panel against your back?
Hey Stephen! Great question - I was concerned with the same thing when I first saw the design, but you can't tell any difference against your back whether you have a laptop in the sleeve or not. Great design!
Mark Denney cheers for the quick reply. I only ask because people have said that about the Lowepro ProTactic which has a laptop sleeve on the back panel as well.
I tried the bag at B&H a couple of weeks ago and loved it. It's on my short list once I sell a couple of others. 30 L sounds like a great size as well. But I have a question regarding using a Peak Design Clip on the shoulder strap, it looks like the strap might be too wide, does anybody use it with this bag?
are you also going to review the Explore 30? Apparently is just 4cm shorter and all the other dimension stayed the same, so I am really curious to see what is the real difference there! Also, do you know if there is any way to hide the waist belt on the explore 40?
Aldo Costagliola I don’t think so - not sure if the smaller size and removable waist belt is enough difference for another vid. There isn’t a way to hide or remove the belt on the 40 though.
Hello Mark and Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I did watch your vlog on this pack and also UA-camr Nick Page. I have made up my mind that I shall purchase this photo pack, but not in its present state of its 2 colours which I find horrendous. Question: Do you know if they are going to introduce any other colours, Mark???
Allan Davies My pleasure Allan! Glad you enjoyed the video. I don’t know for certain, but I believe additional color options will be available in the future.
how about laptop safety, doesn't the back of the backpack bend? I'd be worried it could damage my laptop. and do u think 2015 mac book pro would fit? thx
I've been eyeballing the atlas athlete , 26L mindshift, and this Shinoda...from a price point, the MS is a no brainier, but the non removable hip strap bums me out. I think the Atlas is the only one that has this removable. I do have to say that it bugs me that new bags are coming out without ICU..I get that it's meant to give you flexibility...but these are camera bags...provide a small ICU and offer options to expand. My 2 cents.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto I just watched your comparison with the Atlas and the Explorer bags. You don't have to do a whole video, but what do you think the Action X would get out of 30 points? I know they aren't your perfect 40L, but I'm interested to know where the 30 can get almost to the magic 40L. 😁
I would ask the guy from Shimoda what the advantage is of the collapsed water bottle space. You allow for it full of water. Theoretically, if you threw away the bottle once finished, what are you going to put in that space? His argument only makes sense until you think about it. Water bladders require alot of maintenance to sanitize. For long hikes in the desert it may be worth it, but not for day trips in Maine.
I think the two are very similar. You could test them against each other. Unfortunately the NYA-EVO 36 does not open to the side, I think that's really cool with the Shimoda 40 :) Thanks for your review!
I was looking at the Shimoda bags but having to buy the core separately is just a ripoff. One should be included and if you want a larger/smaller one then they should be made available for an extra purchase. I think I'm going to stick with Lowepro and get the Powder BP 500...I love Lowepro bags and have a few of them...
In my experience of using dedicated camera bags for 30 years, good as they may be, none of them beat a proper hiking bag for comfort as they utilise a purpose built internal frame that isnt compromised by the rear opening flap. My own has an f stop ICU inside and a little ingenuity allows a tripod to be securely fastened centrally on the outside, not off centre to the side which is bad for stability and the spine.
Depends on where you are in the world and which airlines. From my experience with cabin baggage in NZ and Australia you my luck out. Recently I have had my cabin size tested and weighed. The cut off in weight was 7kg (about 15.4 pounds) and they were sticking to it. Fortunately my bag (40L) fitted in the measure box, not sure that a 60L one would. When I flew from the UK to Qatar last year they insisted that my laptop went inside my cabin luggage and it was included in my bag weight. I cannot remember which airline it is, but they let you pay extra for a 10kg bag.
Those shoulder straps look awfully thin, lacking padding, which would add significant levels of comfort. That's disappointing for such pricey bag, $340 for the smaller 30L, with a single small sized ICU.
Shimoda backpacks fail at its most basic function. Its very uncomfortable to wear when loaded. I have 60 l, first gen, traveled to Kyrgyzstan, India, Thailand and had to carry everything, including camera and equipment, 15-17kg. Main problem: the rear zipper cuts into my back and I can’t walk any further than 5-10 kilometres. The interior is too loose, camera wobbles and moves around too much. And I have a medium DSLR unit, with a range of lenses. I’m extremely disappointed with shimoda, and I’m not the only one. Having said that, the backpack is a high quality build, it doesn’t scream “expensive inside”, which is a big plus for travellers. Padding is too thin, they should have doubled or tripled it.
so far i think you are probably the best youtuber when talking about gears for outdoor photography. thank you mark!
Thank for the reviews man... I'm super stoked I was able to get a gently used explore 40 for $75 with 2 small cubes. I can't wait to take it out on a hike.
Thanks for going through the features of the bag. I too like the fact that you can set the outside face down and approach the equipment through the 'back' of the pack - especially given there are so many instances where you have to lay it over a damp section. They seemed to have designed the laptop holder in a secure fashion as well. I think you'd have to purchase a separate rain cover if you wanted it - having a convenient rain cover included would be nice.
I visited the only retail vendor of Atlas bags in the PNW, determined to purchase the Atlas Athletic. I have been romancing this bag for over a year. Much to my dismay, the Athletic was too shallow for my D850. The only option was the Atlas adventurer, which was way too big for day-hikes. I came home with the Shimoda, and I can't wait to take it out! My partner was afraid I was going to sleep with it tonight. Another great bonus is the adjustable height. My partner is 6'3", I am 5'3". With the adjustable shoulder height, we can both carry this bag - huge bonus points!
Under-rated channel. Should have 3x as many subscribers!
4:40 I count seven backpacks that all look roughly the same size. So the Shimoda is the one that rules them all?
Thanks for the review. Fortunately my local camera shop in New Zealand stocks the bag. I am going to look at it. Fully agree about the water bottle holder on the outside (had a water bladder that leaked and caused 1,200 NZD worth of damage to my camera - insurance covered it, but not the loss of photography opportunity). This factor my be a deal killer.
Another great video Mark! It's too big of a bag for me, but I enjoy watching bag reviews and seeing how people carry their stuff.
Thanks Victoria! Glad you enjoyed the video. I'm the same way - love watching content related to how other photographers carry their gear!
Great video! I just got the mountainsmith tanuck 40L. took it on the field and noticed how heavy this bag is... 5lbs + the ICU makes it to a 5.5lbs just the bag. Shimoda 3lbs including ICU... I'm going to return this tanuck bag. thank you for the informative video.
Albert Kaisen Glad to do it Albert! Appreciate you checking it out!
Thank you for this review Mark. I really appreciated it. I hadn't heard of this bag or brand until yesterday when I watched Simon Baxter's latest video and saw the branding and loved the look. Your review came up first on a Google search so congrats on your SEO! I've been using the Peak Design 30L for a while now and have never really liked it that much. It is more of an every day bag, which is what I wanted, but I struggle to fit what I need into it. I'd love the 40L Shimoda for every day, but the water bottle's an issue, and I'd love the waist straps to be removable.
Very good commentary and excellent information.
Thank you so much! Glad you think so!
Just in time. I've been trying to decide between this, Mountainsmith Borealis 35L, and F-Stop Ajna where couple of days travel clothes and camera gear can fit.
Awesome! Glad to hear that the timing was right👍 I would highly recommend the Shimoda!
Just ordered on ebay from Adorama using today's 20% off coupon :-).
kits VA Nice! Enjoy it👍
Mine came with two small inserts and I really hate this setup. Wondering if I should order medium insert for $79 or sell it and take the loss and get Mindshift backlight or Lowepro Protactic 450 which I seem to love (tried friends) after using this Shimoda on couple of trips. With Out of Moab coming soon I am confused :-)
kits VA I use the medium core and small core ICU - works pretty well, but I don’t think two small icus would work for me either.
glad you like yours. I purchased one myself. I like some features of it, not a good fit for me. Overall Im disapointed with it. Still looking for my "perfect"bag
Yep - I think were always on the lookout for the perfect camera bag - not sure if there will ever be one since it's such a personal thing, but it doesn't stop us from holding out hope! Thanks for the comment Aaron!
So I got the bag, but I also have the mindshift backlight 36L and I'm torn. I love the design of the Shimoda but it's bigger and bulkier than the mindshift and yet I struggle to fit all my gear that I have on the mindshift. Also, I find the EVA padding is not as protective as the traditional dividers so I need to be more careful with putting the bag down. I'll give it a a few more opportunities but I might be selling the Shimoda and sticking to the mindshift. We'll see.
Sold - thanks for the in-depth reviews, gave me all the info I need to make the best informed decision.
Cory Free Glad to do it! You can use promo code FWBMarkDenney at checkout and that’ll save ya 10%👊
The problem with their inclusion of water bladder spot (F-Stop has the same issue) is the weight distribution is all wrong for long hikes anyway. The heaviest weights should be close to your back and as low as possible to improve centre of gravity. Also as the bladder empties, the weight of the pack against your back squeezes the water out the straw. With these bags, you have 3 kilos suspended away from your back levering you backwards.
I've been struggling (for years) with a rucksack that just doesn't fit me properly and that doesn't have a proper / stable way of attaching my tripod. Of the bags reviewed, I liked the look of the Shimoda best. Coincidentally, they were making their first appearance at the UK's 2019 Photography Show last weekend, so we drove up to Birmingham to see if it was as good in real life as it looked on screen. I can live without a dedicated water bottle pouch and I tend to use waist straps to keep bags stable as I'm a larger-framed bloke and I carry heavy medium format film kit as well as a DSLR. Anyway, it's about as perfect as it could be for me, so I'm delighted that I saw your review. Thank you.
I like the backpacks which open on this side, so you can put them also on wet grounds, use your gear and put them back so that your back stays clean and dry, I need to change mine in future for one of those.
Nice Review Mark
Thanks for the review Mark. Though I don't own one of those, I have been comparing. I like the multiple camera access of this bag. The lack of a water bottle could be a deal killer for me, like for the other Mark below. But I was thinking: can't the accessory pocket, which seems designed for a tripod, be used for a water bottle, in the absence of a tripod?
Waiting for the Europe release! Awesome video as usual.
Kohizzzle Really appreciate it - Thank you!
Hi Mark, so you have been playing with both the Shimoda bags, the explore and also the Action - which is the better all-rounder in your opinion? Cheers, Andy.
Hey Mark. Nice video. I was wondering where do you put the tripod. I have the RRS TVC 24L.
Hi Mark. Thanks for this video and the others you have produced. I always look forward to your content.
You’ve sold me on the Shimoda bag, however, I’m struggling with which size bag to order. I carry a D810, the trinity of lenses, a panning head & rail and much of the same accessories you do. I generally day hike, and don’t pack camping gear. How did you arrive at the 40L? Have you ever experienced any limitations where you wish you had the 60L? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments.
Tom Tocco Many thanks Tom! With your setup you may want to go with the 60L.
Loved the review - and I may buy this as the price I can buy it for is US$200 less than the Atlas Athlete. However I would mention that after 4 trips to Nepal, 2 x Iceland, Kyrgystan, Myanmar, Cambodia, all over China etc. etc. the VAST majority of people use water bottles and not bladders which can become dangerous bacteria breeding grounds if not cleaned properly (which most people don't do). So I'm with you, a couple of pockets as per the LowePro Flipsides 350/450 would be brilliant and improve this no end.
hi, very informative video thank you. agree with what @Kevin say, I guess bladders are more for running, biking (more active stuff than hiking) not saying that as a wildlife photographer when you're hidden in your spot, with your bag around it's not possible to drink with this system. I have the old f-stop Loka (probably designed by Ian) which have pocket for water bottle why change ? So where do you put your bottle of water ? cheers.
@@roybon4424 I know Mark recommended I buy the X Action but it wasn't available in my country of residence and was extremely expensive to import. So I bought the Explore 40L. The bag is very good and gets compliments from other photographers.
However I'd change it for the X in a second. I should note though that I've been able to use the top right stretchy pocket on the strap for a small (700ml, no more, thinner better than wider) water bottle when hiking (it's surprisingly stretchy and robust) and the bag on the side that's primarily for storing the tripod can easily hold a large bottle or even two. Not ideal as I have to find another way to store the tripod but if you prefer bottles to a bladder it's a possible solution.
@@kevinharding1181 yes, apparently the Action series solve this issue by having side pocket to hold bottle. good point :)
Nice stuff! Cheers from The Netherlands 🤙
Niels Kemp Creative Thanks a lot - much appreciated👊
I wish the waist belts were removable. It's great for hiking but annoying (they flap around) when you're in the city. I also wish there's a 30L version. I love the colours though.
Ice S I’m sure there will be new sizes and colors coming in the future.
I am not a genie but I will make your above wishes come true ;)
Please, please, please, Ian Millar, introduce colours of black; navy; or moss green. I wish to purchase one immediately, but I am waiting for more sober colours which will go with my outdoor clothing. It looks like a fantastic pack, otherwise, in the meantime, I shall wait...
Hi Allan, we currently offer Navy - but unfortunately out of stock for another month. Thanks for the feedback.
I am very confident if you were to introduce darker and sober colours that these packs would fly off the shelves. Your current light/coloured navy does not work for me. They border on the feminine for me. I'm your customer, I want to buy. But it has got to be a colour that I can live with Ian. Thank you, for your reply...
Very nice.
Thanks a lot!
Oh nah! Hawaii represent!
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Great review Mark and I agree with much of what you said. I have the 40L and would have liked a flip top like on the 60L. Also a zippered pocket on at least one of the hip bolsters would have been good. All minor things really. I got the roller as well and keep my laptop and gear in there when hoofing it thru the airport and that works great, getting much of the weight off my back. The only other thing I hope @shimodadesigns does is come out with a large core unit for photographers like me that carry an attached long lens. Using a large ICU from another bag and it works, but I like Shimoda's core unit design.
Thanks Jason! And, glad you enjoyed the video! I've been thinking about the roller bag a lot lately - so when you travel you carry your 40L on your back and bring the roller bag as well? Do you check the roller bag or carry both on?
Yep, I bring both as carry ons. I put my clothes and other stuff in the 40L and all the gear in the roller which makes it so much easier traveling. Then when I get to the destination I swap everything. I've done 2 trips so far like this and it's been a breeze. Both bags fit in the overhead, but on one trip I had the 40L under the seat because space was at a premium on that particular flight.
Jason Durham Thanks Jason! That’s a similar setup that I’ve been thinking of.
Great video as usual Mark. I have a question and that is do you know if a Capture Pro Clip made by Peak Design would fit on the upper portion of the strap. It has to be fairly narrow for it to work. If your not familiar with the this item I would appreciate if you could measure the narrowest spot and let me know. I like to carry my camera out side the bag when I’m roaming around and with this Clip it works perfect. Thank you.
Good video Mark. :)
Arun Hegden Thanks man👍
Hello Mark, are the packs heavy? I was thinking about getting the 65 or 40 litre I am 6' 2" would that one fit into a piece of hand luggage to take on board the aeroplane? And.... the issue about the colours of the packs. I find the colours of the packs absolutely disgusting. Is there any plans to use any sensible colours in the future?
Awesome review, really love the bag, the only problem for me is, Im a short guy and i go very minimal. Now Shimoda just released at size 30L!!!! would love to see a review?!?!!!
Jdchan Thanks and glad to hear you enjoyed the video! I think the 30L is going to be super popular!
I’m about to probably get this bag. Any idea if a Peak medium icu works in this bag? Already have one so I’d like to save a bucks if it would work
What rain jacket is that? I love that color
Hi Mark, I'm thinking of getting this bag but the only that is putting me off is the laptop sleeve. You mentioned it can fit your 15 inch mac book but snug. I'm kinda worried since I have an dell xps 15 and it won't fit since it's a little bit thicker your mac book.
Ricky Le It probably wouldn’t fit if it’s thicker, but the new Shimoda Action X collection actually has a 16” laptop sleeve that you might want to check out.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto thank you very much for the response!
Hey Mark! Amazing videos brother! I just picked this bag up, and have used the Tilopa in the past. Have you used FStop bags before? How do they compare to you? To me...this one is much more comfortable. I do like the aesthetics of the FStops a tad better...but that's not everything!
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
Andrew Marshall Thanks man! Glad you’re enjoying the videos👊 Prior to the Shimoda I used the Fstop Ajna bag for about a year and you’re right - Shimoda is way more comfortable! Overall I like the Shimoda better, mainly because of the comfort and the fact that I can access a couple small pockets while I’m wearing the pack - couldn’t do that with the Ajna.
Mark - It was a pleasure to meet you and talk on our Out of Moab excursion to Corona Arch. I enjoyed our conversation about Shimoda bags and other topics. I bought the 40L at the conference and love it. I have found it to be an incredibly well designed bag. Scott
Photitect It was great meeting you as well Scott! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the bag - it’s like a fine wine and just keeps getting better & better - lol!
Is this pack suitable for someone that is short (5'6"), or is the 30L more appropriate? I need to pack 2 Sony mirrorless cameras, filters/filter holder, 100-400mm, 12-24mm, and 24-70mm lenses, plus the usual stuff (remote, batteries, cards, etc.). Also, which insert do you recommend?
Larry Marshall Photography With your setup I’d say go with the 40L, it’s not an overly large bag and should fit you fine. I use a combination of the medium core unit along with the small - works great👍
This looks like such a good bag Mark it has to go on my list of kit to purchase in the future. But does it go before the wide angle lens? What do you think mate?
Chris Sale Oh that’s a tough one, Chris! The photographer in me says you got to go with the lens as this will aid in the actual photography side of photography, but nothing feels better than getting a new photography bag! It’s a tough choice!
What if there is no room in my current bag for another lens with all the vlogging gear I now carry? Does that change things?
Indeed! Then I'd say the bag comes first - without it you'll be carrying your new lens in your hands.
New bag is always better ... Makes more room for new gear 😜
Babar Asghar haha! That’s for sure👏
Hi Mark! Thank you so much for this video! I would like to know if you ever found it annoying when you try to take out your camera while hiking? To me that's the biggest improvement on Action X but it is so pricey and now I am considering the Wandrd PRVK 31 but don't think the comfort can match the shimoda explore. Would love to know your opinions. Thanks again!
Mark, I'm loving the reviews of the Shimoda bags, and am starting small by ordering a core unit and accessory pouch from Shimoda to use in my F-Stop Sukha until I can pick up one of their bags. I really like their philosophy, but one of my pet peeves is yours as well: water bottle carrying. With my Sukha, I attached an old Lowepro pouch capable of carrying a 32 oz Nalgene to the shoulder harness--not an ideal location, and limiting visibility at times, but it works. (F-Stop's water bottle holder looks insufficient.) Have you found a good solution on your Shimoda 40L, please?
Hi, Todd - Ian Miller from Shimoda was telling me about a flex bottle with a tube that others have used in the mesh pocket on the right harness strap. Seems like a good option, but I haven’t purchased one yet.
If the bag had a mesh pocket large enough for a 1.5P bottle on opposite site of tripod to balance the weight of tripod that would have made it a perfect bag
Can we attach a top attachment cover like an Alpine bag and a strap at the bottom for a tent and sleeping bag?
Babar Asghar Yep. The bag has additional attachment points and the best part is that Shimoda send the additional straps with the bag for no additional charge - a nice touch👍
I would have added a good rubber padding when placing the bag outdoors upright.
Gino Rigucci That’d be nice👍
Will sigma 150-600mm fit in this backpack?
Shimoda needs to collaborate with osprey to come up with the perfect bag (doesn’t exist). I shove a pd messenger bag into my osprey when I hike. It’s not ideal for access but you can’t beat the comfort of the suspension system on long hikes. I often find myself on 5-15 mile hikes to get to the best waterfalls and comfort is number one priority.
Hey Mark! Another great video! I’m looking for a travel/hiking bag. I’d like one that can carry my camera and everything for at least a day hike. Would you recommend the atlas adventure large frame or the shimoda 60l? I have a canon 5dm4 with the trinity lens setup.
I'd go with the Shimoda, but either back will hold what you're looking to carry just fine!
Mark Denney thank you!
which one do you prefer, shimoda or f-stop?
As of right now, I'd have to go with Shimoda. F-stop has the overall better lineup, but Shimoda has the better single bag, IMO.
Hi Mark! thanks for this review. Super informative. Was wondering where you placed your tripod. I've been looking for a bag that doesnt scream "photographer" with expensive gear inside as well, but the thing I think that gives it away is the tripod strapped on the outside. I was wondering if the tripod is able to fit within the bag. I'm using a Mefoto Globetrotter carbon fiber tripod currently. Would appreciate if you give some feedback. Thanks!
2ksheng Glad you enjoyed the video! I’m not sure how long the specific tripod you mentioned is but I’m sure there’s a way you could fit it inside the bag itself.
This color looks superb, can it fit Fstop ICU? Like Large Pro size?
And does it come with it's own ICUs or we have to purchase them separately?
Babar Asghar Yes it fits the Fstop large pro ICU. The ICU’s are sold separately. I agree - the color is great👍
Mark Denney man I wish they sold.it here in Pakistan. :(
Material looks super water repellent, I didn't see rain cover.
Babar Asghar The bag doesn’t come with a rain cover, but the material appears to be very water repellent.
Mark Denney so many options in sub $300
Lowepro Whistler
Shimoda 40L
F-stop Ajna
F-Stop Tilopa
But I think Whistler n Shimoda are best options with Shimoda winning overall functionality ...
I need a bag big enough for
Nikon D850, Tamron 15-30, Tamron 24-70, 70-200 f2.8 USD and Nikon 200-500 with a filter set. I can barely fit all this in a 20L bag (Lowepro Flipside 20L Sport) so I think in Shimoda it will be an easy fit with Fstop Large ICU equivalent.
Babar Asghar Yes. I would agree. You should have plenty of room in the Shimoda with that setup.
Hey Mark, thanks for the review, I was wondering if you have tested this bag under the rain? Do I need a waterproof cover under unpredicted rain? Thanks in advance man.
Rolando Lores I haven’t had any issues but if you’re going to be in heavy rain for a long period of time I’d recommend a rain cover.
Great video, very informative. my only question is how much does the bag weight empty?
nevermind! around 3 lbs, found it online.
Yep, I believe the exact weight of the bag empty is 2.94lbs. Glad you liked the video.
Thanks for the video . I just received my 40l today.. I find it difficult to access my gear if I don't set my bag on the ground (for example, just swinging the bag to the front along the waist straps). I reckon it's due to the direction of the opening to the side.. zippers access is totally impossible to get to. Do you have any get around for that?
Water bottle vs. bladder: The bladder would be full on the start of your trip, and so would a bottle- so what difference does it make? You aren't picking up things along the way where you would need the space left by the bladder as you drink your water.
twanto Yep - Agreed! I see both sides of this discussion, but your point is valid for sure👍
Hey Mark. Great informative video. How does the explore compare to the F-stop Ajna? I noticed one hanging on your wall, again thanks for the video
Lukaiel Reece-Sullivan Really appreciate that - glad you enjoyed it! I personally like the Shimoda over the Ajna bag. Both are great, but the Shimoda bag has a couple great features that the Ajna doesn’t like the side opening rear access point and the small pockets on the harness.
Thanks for the response. I will totally try to get my hands on one soon.
Mark, when you do a backpack review, it would be really helpful if you actually put it on so we can see how it rides. Kind of like demoing a car without driving it and just showing us what fits in the trunk.
Great video, Mark. One question: can it carry a tripod?
Mike McAfee Thanks Mike! You can carry a tripod on the side or along the front.
Mark Denney , thanks !
Hi Mark, does having your 15" Macbook pro in the dedicated laptop sleeve on the back panel effect the comfort of the pack in any way?
Does it make the back panel too rigid or is there plenty of allowance for such things and there's no difference on the back panel against your back?
Hey Stephen! Great question - I was concerned with the same thing when I first saw the design, but you can't tell any difference against your back whether you have a laptop in the sleeve or not. Great design!
Mark Denney cheers for the quick reply. I only ask because people have said that about the Lowepro ProTactic which has a laptop sleeve on the back panel as well.
Stephen Browne Yep, I’ve heard the same thing about the ProTactic, but I think Shimoda solved the problem👍
I tried the bag at B&H a couple of weeks ago and loved it. It's on my short list once I sell a couple of others. 30 L sounds like a great size as well. But I have a question regarding using a Peak Design Clip on the shoulder strap, it looks like the strap might be too wide, does anybody use it with this bag?
Vlast Pojman I don’t use it on this bag but it does fit.
I am worried about the durability of the adjustable shoulder straps, how about it after the real-life use?
aHei ay Solid as a rock! Haven’t had any issue with it at all👍
are you also going to review the Explore 30? Apparently is just 4cm shorter and all the other dimension stayed the same, so I am really curious to see what is the real difference there! Also, do you know if there is any way to hide the waist belt on the explore 40?
Aldo Costagliola I don’t think so - not sure if the smaller size and removable waist belt is enough difference for another vid. There isn’t a way to hide or remove the belt on the 40 though.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto you're right, not worth another video, but if you manage to receive one, please include it in a bag wrap up 😊
Aldo Costagliola I sure will👍
Hello Mark and Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I did watch your vlog on this pack and also UA-camr Nick Page. I have made up my mind that I shall purchase this photo pack, but not in its present state of its 2 colours which I find horrendous. Question: Do you know if they are going to introduce any other colours, Mark???
Allan Davies My pleasure Allan! Glad you enjoyed the video. I don’t know for certain, but I believe additional color options will be available in the future.
I do hope so, I can not wait ...
Mark great video! Have you tried to put a Fstop ICU in this bag? Just for the photographer who's kit won't fit in the medium core unit.
Thanks - appreciate it Jordan! I haven't tried that, but when I get back in town this evening I'll give it a go and will let ya know.
Mark Denney Awesome thanks Mark! Look forward to your results!
So I tried it out and was surprised how well it fits. I was able to slide the Fstop Large Pro ICU into the Shimoda 40L - perfect fit!
Thanks for checking that out, its nice to know. Do you think any of the larger ICU would fit? Like the XL ICU.
Jordan Burrows As long as the depth of the ICU doesn’t increase and only the length increases it should be fine.
how about laptop safety, doesn't the back of the backpack bend? I'd be worried it could damage my laptop. and do u think 2015 mac book pro would fit?
thx
Nope I haven't had any issue.
Mark Denney now I’ve used it for a year. Unfortunately it doesn’t work for me :(
I've been eyeballing the atlas athlete , 26L mindshift, and this Shinoda...from a price point, the MS is a no brainier, but the non removable hip strap bums me out. I think the Atlas is the only one that has this removable.
I do have to say that it bugs me that new bags are coming out without ICU..I get that it's meant to give you flexibility...but these are camera bags...provide a small ICU and offer options to expand. My 2 cents.
Just curious; do you like the explorer over the action X?
Will Price Both are great but I prefer the Action X collection.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto I just watched your comparison with the Atlas and the Explorer bags. You don't have to do a whole video, but what do you think the Action X would get out of 30 points? I know they aren't your perfect 40L, but I'm interested to know where the 30 can get almost to the magic 40L. 😁
great review, but haven't a place for the water bottle is a major complaine, at list for me.
dapa stra Same here!
Does the 40l include the accesory straps as advertised?
Lingzhen Sure does👍
whats your mind? FSTOP bag or Shimoda?
Gidi Pridan I prefer the Shimoda over my Fstop pack.
I would ask the guy from Shimoda what the advantage is of the collapsed water bottle space. You allow for it full of water. Theoretically, if you threw away the bottle once finished, what are you going to put in that space? His argument only makes sense until you think about it. Water bladders require alot of maintenance to sanitize. For long hikes in the desert it may be worth it, but not for day trips in Maine.
Still trying to wrap my head around all the very expensive packs in your office for someone just getting started. Not judging but wow.
Do you know the nya evo fjord 36?
it looks very similar
Borisius M Nope I’m not familiar with it
I think the two are very similar. You could test them against each other.
Unfortunately the NYA-EVO 36 does not open to the side, I think that's really cool with the Shimoda 40 :)
Thanks for your review!
Is it better than the Atlas Athlete?
How to carry tripods on this pack?
I was looking at the Shimoda bags but having to buy the core separately is just a ripoff. One should be included and if you want a larger/smaller one then they should be made available for an extra purchase. I think I'm going to stick with Lowepro and get the Powder BP 500...I love Lowepro bags and have a few of them...
In my experience of using dedicated camera bags for 30 years, good as they may be, none of them beat a proper hiking bag for comfort as they utilise a purpose built internal frame that isnt compromised by the rear opening flap. My own has an f stop ICU inside and a little ingenuity allows a tripod to be securely fastened centrally on the outside, not off centre to the side which is bad for stability and the spine.
when you have a heavy bag, all that weight doesn't warp your laptop? Are you worried?....
one more question : Do you think its possible to carry the 60l on an airplane?
Gidi Pridan Yep, you shouldn’t have a problem unless you’re on a small regional type plane.
thank you so much buddy. All the best
Gidi Pridan Thanks Man!!
Depends on where you are in the world and which airlines. From my experience with cabin baggage in NZ and Australia you my luck out. Recently I have had my cabin size tested and weighed. The cut off in weight was 7kg (about 15.4 pounds) and they were sticking to it. Fortunately my bag (40L) fitted in the measure box, not sure that a 60L one would. When I flew from the UK to Qatar last year they insisted that my laptop went inside my cabin luggage and it was included in my bag weight. I cannot remember which airline it is, but they let you pay extra for a 10kg bag.
I would rather have water bottle holders. I often just want to sit down outdoors with a water bottle in my hand.
Those shoulder straps look awfully thin, lacking padding, which would add significant levels of comfort. That's disappointing for such pricey bag, $340 for the smaller 30L, with a single small sized ICU.
Shimoda backpacks fail at its most basic function. Its very uncomfortable to wear when loaded. I have 60 l, first gen, traveled to Kyrgyzstan, India, Thailand and had to carry everything, including camera and equipment, 15-17kg. Main problem: the rear zipper cuts into my back and I can’t walk any further than 5-10 kilometres. The interior is too loose, camera wobbles and moves around too much. And I have a medium DSLR unit, with a range of lenses. I’m extremely disappointed with shimoda, and I’m not the only one. Having said that, the backpack is a high quality build, it doesn’t scream “expensive inside”, which is a big plus for travellers. Padding is too thin, they should have doubled or tripled it.
Dam this would have been perfect for me except for those leather zip pulls as i'm vegan. Gutted....Great review though.