The reason that Shimoda still wins for me is the removable ICUs with their separate carry bags. We all tend to overload carry on bags. If you get called out for a gate check the ability to pull the ICU as a personal bag and carry on your most important equipment is invaluable. Additionally, I like to check my 40 liter Shimoda backpack. And carry on my heavy heavy roller bag with the backpack full of my clothes etc. Then when I get where I am going I switch my camera gear to the backpack from the roller bag. Removable ICUs allow for this to happen. It works in airports for real traveling in a way that the Athlete does not. I have a show on UA-cam where we cover the Shimoda and the roller from them. GearTime Live with Photog Adventures. Love your show Mark.
I prefer the integrated ICU in the Atlas Bags over the removable ICUs from Shimoda. It's interesting that you end up also taking a separate roller bag, because I always end up trying to load clothes, camping gear, and camera gear into my bag. The Atlas bags have ended up winning so far, but that might change now that my Shimoda Action X70 finally arrived. How do you feel the Shimoda works better than the Athlete in airports?
Interesting camera bag review Mark - these are certainly the premium brands to choose from. I use an F-Stop Loka 35Ltr backpack which I'm quite happy with, but am looking into a larger camera bag for longer hikes & overseas travel (needs to be carry-on friendly). Some observations about the 3 packs you reviewed from a guy who worked for over 15yrs in the outdoor retail industry as a buyer for a major Aussie company: Shimoda 40L Explorer - I've been hearing some positive things about this brand, especially regarding the comfort of the harness system. The F-Stop bags have a decent harness system but one that is inferior to top pack companies like Osprey, Gregory or Deuter. Shimoda seems to have nailed the harness system, though I'd stress that comfort is very personal and everybody's torso is unique, so you have to try before you buy. You can adjust the length of the harness to suit various torso lengths and this I see as an advantage. Personally, I find the Shimoda pack designs somewhat agricultural-looking - I'd probably score them about 3/5 for looks. Would prefer some more organisation pockets for smaller items. The Shimoda is the worst out the 3 in this department by some margin. I also prefer water bottles even though using a hydration bladder is a much more efficient way of keeping the fluids up. Disappointed that the Shimoda doesn't have water bottle side pockets. Not a big fan of how the back panel opens sideways - seems less secure potentially for your camera gear. I also prefer carrying the tripod in the middle of the pack for balance - especially when scrambling on rough terrain. Shimoda doesn't seem to provide for this option - though their tripod carrying solution seems a well thought out implementation. Though the disadvantage of my way of carrying the tripod in the middle of the pack is the tripod is slightly further away from your back which equates to a heavier effective carrying weight. It's generally preferable to keep heavy items closer to your back. Atlas Athlete Pack - looks like there's a new kid in town & better for all the gear heads as more competition will push designs & quality. This pack definitely is the most versatile out of the trio and by far the best option if you wanna go backcountry on overnight trips with it's expanding lid design. But having said that 40Ltr backpacks filled with camera gear are not usually an option for overnight use - need 60-70ltrs I reckon. The ability of the Atlas packs to customise the pack by choosing various sizes hipbelts and harness lengths leave the other two behind in their wake. Removable internal frames and hipbelt are clever design features. I like the way the rear pack opening works - similar to the F-Stop bags. Though beware of the Atlas Adventure Pack's (The Athlete's bigger brother) design where the whole back including the harness flips out to the side! Talk about a major brain explosion! Every time you sit the pack down & open it you potentially will get dirt, mud, or snow on the harness. Mark, I'm still trying to work out why you find a fixed ICU system beneficial!? For my money the ability to swap ICU units depending on the trip & how much gear you want to take is a major bonus. Appears to me that the Atlas doesn't have a lot of room in the ICU for camera gear without performing some origami tricks and even then it still looks more suited to smaller mirrorless gear. Certainly unimpressed with the large 'Atlas' logo screaming out as a walking advertisement. Ugh! F-Stop Ajna (Red Bull edition) - firstly I'd say that this pack was probably the wrong choice for you. You would've been much better off with the 50Ltr Tilopa. I know you're comparing 40Ltr packs but the Ajna has a shorter back length that would be more suitable for shorter guys or perhaps our lady shooters. The Tilopa's harness is approx 3" (7.5cms) longer and would probably carry more comfortably. The fact that information isn't common knowledge is F-Stop's fault for burying the information on their website. The Tilopa would have given you some more storage for non-camera gear too with the extra 10Ltrs of capacity. The F-Stop harness system needs a bit of a revamp methinks. Maybe 5yrs ago they were ahead of the pack, but the pack has waved to them as they went past. That situation may have happened due to the guy who was running the business almost running F-Stop into the ground financially. Sadly, customer service, the supply of the packs, and perhaps potential new designs suffered due to this. Hopefully they'll pick up their game in the future. Final Thoughts: So none of the packs are perfect - the Holy Grail is still out there somewhere, but boy has camera bag design improved in recent years. We're spoilt for choice with camera bags for landscape photography. 25-30yrs ago when I was shooting film (Fuji Velvia) the only game in town was Lowe-Pro & there were very few bags that catered to photographers who wanted to head out from suburbia. Providing for non-camera gear was virtually an afterthought. It's a great time to be an outdoor or travel photographer! As for myself & my search for a larger camera bag, I'll be considering the Shimoda 60Ltr Explorer or the (defunct) F-Stop Satori or Sukha. Who knows somethin' new & exciting may arrive on the market!
Great video, very well done. I do believe that most photography pack makers forget about the extra stuff (rain jackets, food, two water bottles, gloves and rain pants and perhaps even a vest) that wildlife/landscape photographers take out with them. I think I may look at the Atlas pack. I use a Lowpro Whistler 450 which I really like but can't get the extra gear in when I am going out for a day or long morning/afternoon. plus it tends to let me carry more than I need in camera gear. :)
I received my Atlas Athlete today and absolutely agree that it is an awesome hybrid backpack. My only wish would be that the pockets that connect to the waist belt extended out further away from the backpack or were part of the removable waist belt and were positioned closer to the pelvis area for greater accessibility. I packed it up today and was able to fit a ton of stuff in this backpack: I was able to pack: 2 cameras Fuji X-T3 and X- T2 1 battery grip 1 battery charger 1 small Godox flash 6 lenses 1 joby tripod 13 inch MacBook Air w/charger 9.7 inch iPad w/charger 1 over the ear headphones. ( Bowers and Wilkins P5s) 4 pants 6 shirts 6 underwear 6 pair socks 1 belt 1 gym shorts Running shoes 1 Peak design field pouch full of camera stuff 1 notebook 1 iPhone and charger I still had room for a few more small items. The bag weighed in at 35 pounds. I can’t wait to travel with it.
Welcome to the family :-) Stoked you are loving your Atlas Pack. Of note, the hip belt pockets are offset by design. I recognize and agree that it makes accessing them awkward. Keep in mind that no other pack has this option. With other packs you have to use the tripod pockets and those are even more awkward to get into and out of. BTW: Mark did not mention the pop-out pockets in his video. They are big enough to hold a 32oz bottle.= so more place to store water :-). PS: The reason the pockets are set behind the pelvis is to stay out of your way of your arms when you are walking. We had them forward in some early versions and everyone complained about how they got in the way. Cheers and thanks. Allan
AtlasPacks The fog has lifted...thanks for the explanation, it all makes perfect sense. I’ve sold two fellow shooters on the athlete backpack in the first three hours...my commission can be sent to 🤑
@@AtlasPacks Allan, I believe I would really like these hip belt pockets. The fact that they can be stowed when not used and then are large enough to hold a lens during a change is great. And I see now the reason for them being set back a bit. In addition, I would appreciate some webbing that would allow me to use a Peak Design Capture on the hip belt "in front" of the pockets. Or maybe people would like to attach other form pouch there.
For times when not packing a bunch of non camera gear or a laptop. I've taken to placing the tripod in the main compartment of the Atlas Athlete. Slide the tripod down past the the camera compartment and cinch down the brain. Weight is nice and centered.
I really enjoyed this review especially since these are not the 3 typical bags you usally see on UA-cam. I have also heard good things about the Atlas Bag. I just wish the logo was not so prominent.
Hi Mark .. I first watched this video probably about 6 months ago as I was looking at upgrading to a more suitable back pack. The bag that caught my interest was the Atlas. The one reason I didn't get one was the price of the bag being so expensive after all its just another camera bag (Or Is It ). So I finally decided to take the plunge and ordered one and wow what an amazingly awesome piece of equipment packed full of features and so well designed. The best thing about this bag for me is how well balanced it feels when your wearing it. I can walk for miles with this thing on my back loaded with camera equipment with no problem at all. if I had not looked at your review I probably would not have purchased this bag so thanks again for your brilliant videos they do make a difference to lots of people like me.
The removable camera unit is actually really useful if you want to transition between a pelican air or mec scully dry bag, find yourself shooting from the car and want quicker access, or if you simply get into a battle with an airline and need to appease them by gate checking the outer bag. My Loka UL has mesh water bottle side pockets. I actually found my daily commuter, a wandered provoke 21, surprisingly competent for light hiking, even loaded up with snowshoes, when I needed an extra bag for a friend. The shimoda style looks more “luggage” than “adventure” to my eye.
That WANDRD PRVKE 21 is a darn-near perfect bag-it's my daily carry as well-but I don't really think of it as a competitor to these bags. A month in India? Hands down, the PRVKE 21. A 10k hike? For me, the Atlas though any one of these three would probably be better suited.
Thanks for another great video, Mark! Saw this after your Atlas Pack Review which I viewed yesterday. This one is also amazing, and helps "cinch" for me my choice to go "Atlas!" The non-camera carry, the flexibility of the camera dividers, and the portability of size for carry-on for airplanes (being able to tighten it down) is fantastic. I also love the color, which I know is purely a personal taste choice. Black is fine, too, but that jazzy yellow says "Here I am photographing the wilderness!" (OK, OK....settle down, Scott ;)!!) Truly great info, Mark! I appreciate your work on our behalf! Have a great day :)!! Scott/Minnesota
B-roll is outstanding - your best to date. Thanks for the shout out at 0:40 along with other commenters who have requested you do a compare of these three bags. I have a number of thoughts about your review and your rating system. Rating system was first rate. You are the only UA-cam creator focusing on both tools and techniques for photography that gave some thought to how best to compare what are 3 amongst the top 5 (in my opinion only) photography backpack manufacturers that cater to an outdoorsy user. I would add ThinkTank/Mindship and LowePro to any list where someone is considering this piece of kit. Both Shimoda's (40 and 60 liter) when empty compress quite a lot if the ICUs are removed. Having the ability to remove the ICU and place it in its Shimoda supplied zipper cover case with handle makes the bag more convenient to pack and carry on your body, lenses and other breakables - especially when confronted by an ornery gate agent that doles out grief the bag loaded exceeds carry-on limits, or the bins are already full and you have no choice but to gate check, or taking on board a small plane when flying to out of the way places like islands in the SW Pacific and virtually anywhere in Africa to name two. It is this characteristic that sold me on Shimoda, and that your rating system did not account for. It is what I would term "convenience factor". Also for those who might be wondering, the 40 liter Shimoda (w/o ICUs) will fit in any soft 60 liter duffel bag with just minimal impact, leaving plenty of space to pack what normally goes in a duffel. 60 liter is the max allowed when going to Africa and flying on small planes to lodges and villages. Thank you for doing this, I got a lot of good information from it and your review convinced me I made the right choice with Shimoda.
Thanks so much for the comment, Louis! Super glad to hear you enjoyed the video and were able to get some good info out of it! I agree with you, if I were to expand the grouping it would most certainly have Mindshift and LowePro added!
Great video Mark. One thing I think you didn't touch on in the video, that is very important to me as a ski photographer who spends most of his time shooting on snow. Is the ability for a camera bag to carry all the gear that I need in a mountain environment, particularly skis. Being able to A-Frame my skis on a bag is crucial for me and the best bag in my opinion for that is the F-Stop Tilopa. When shooting in the backcountry, I need to carry my avalanche gear, shovel and probe mainly (I wear my transceiver obviously) and this bag has so much space for those as well as skins etc. It's a 50L bag and it has a dedicated laptop sleeve. I have never had issue carrying a tripod on it despite not having the ability to put the feet into a pocket, when carrying skis, I strap the tripod to the front. In terms of compressibility, if you don't have any camera gear, you can remove the ICU, as with the Ajna and then you can synch it down really small. Also because F-Stop sell multiple different size ICU's you can use a smaller one when you have less gear and create more space for other gear or just lighten your load. For water, it has a dedicated bladder pocket with a hole for your tube and a strap on the shoulder strap to hold you mouthpiece in place. Both these other bags look great but for adventure photography, the F-Stop has to take the win in my opinion.
I have been binge watching your channel; great content. I have been into photography for several years, but this channel has reinvigorated my passion. Thank you for everything you do!
Great comparison man. I have an Athlete on the way and i’m super excited. Allan is such a nice dude, he took over an hour to chat with me about the pack over the phone. So happy to support a company like that and I just really hope it will work well for me!
Mark just wanted to let you know that I loved the B roll in the beginning of the video. You should do it more often and I appreciate you going the extra mile by doing that. It doesn’t go unnoticed keep up the amazing work buddy!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank ya Austin! Glad you liked it - I'd like to do it more often, but I'm just so flippin slow at it, I suppose the more I do the quicker I'll get at it though. as always I appreciate ya watchin!
The Atlas Athlete is an excellent bag. It carries weight the way a bag should for ease of movement and long treks. I used an F-Stop Tilopa for 8.5 years. Great bag for ease of access to all gear but, it never was very comfortable. The tripod mounts on the front of the bag using the top carry handle and a tarp bungee to secure it in place. But, with the Atlas, my tripod can fit inside and this is great for avoiding issues with snagging on tree branches etc... when trekking through thick rain forests.
@lavapix how is the ventilation on the Athlete? I’m concerned about the foam mesh and finds that a suspended tensioned mesh like in Osprey Stratos or Gregory Citro is the best for heat dissipation hiking.
@@akirahojo2 It's fine for me. I'd guess it's just based on how you wear it too. Meaning of course how you adjust the load lifter straps etc... I've never had a true camera backpack that kept my back from getting sweaty to some degree. The hikes I use them for my entire body is sweating. It's how here in Hawaii.
@@lavapix thanks for the reply. Similarly, the hiking trails in NZ can be humid/hot in spring/summer. I don’t mind getting sweaty but with some bags, all I need to do was just stand with the bag fully loaded, and my back would begin to sweat.
I bought an atlas and really wanted to love it but never got on with the shoulder straps, just too thin and frankly cheap feeling…I guess pretty much as he describes the Anna shown here. So now it sits discarded in my closet only after a couple uses. =(
Interesting. I'd not heard of the Atlas bags before, but they're on my radar now. I initially didn't think the F-Stop bag you used for comparison was fair. But, after looking at the Ajna, I have to admit that I didn't realize how big the difference was in the straps and hip belt is between that bag and the Tilopa which I have. I love my F-stop Tilopa, but had been looking for a bit of a smaller bag for some occasions. I'll probably take the Tilopa off that list and add the Atlas bag to think about.
Thank you for this video! It really helped me narrow down what bag I want! I haven’t invested in a photography bag yet and now I know I will get the Atlas bag!! Thank you
Thanks Jeremy. Great to hear you are looking to get an Atlas Pack. Feel free to connect with me @atlaspacks on Instagram if you have any questions. Thanks, Allan
AtlasPacks thank you for making packs that are worth the investment! I have a ton of non photography packs and this will be my first official purchase into the photography backpack industry
Great review of the bags, own the Anja, those cinch straps on my tripod come loose frequently, end up having to put a knot to secure. One other advantage about the removable ICUs, Airports and small planes where they require you to check the bag because it won't fit, you can pop out that ICU every time and carry all your valuable gear on to the plane.
Appreciate it Ben! Yep in that situation having a removable ICU would be clutch, but it's never actually happened to me personally. Now that I said that I'm sure it'll happen on my next flight😬
Removable ICU’s would also be useful for different camera / lens combinations. I do both landscape and wildlife with different cameras and lens combination and having them in an ICU that you can just swap over would be great. Probable need a larger bag than 40l though.
There it is! Really great video. I think for me personally the perfect bag would be a mix from the atlas and shimoda. From a design and colour style I personally like the shimoda a little bit better. What I really like (only can speak from the videos as I cannot get my hands on so easily here in Germany) is the built in ICU with the origami style.That you can fit A TON of non camera gear in it (in a different video I've seen that the material is super stretchy). I also think the laptop sleeve is really great compared to the shimoda (Imagine you're out in shitty weather and you open the bag and your laptop gets flooded?!). Functionality of the atlas with the design of the shimoda would be MY bag I'd say :)
I was surprised how much a difference the ICU being built into the pack adds to the overall feel and sturdiness of the pack and the origami core is a great addition as well - very creative!
Mark Denney have you used and competed the shimoda and atlas for let’s say an overnight or two nights trip? Or have you used a bigger bag for that? I’ve found a video on how much the atlas can hold but not really about the shimoda.
@@Kohizzzle Yep, I've used both on a multi-night trip. I've found the Atlas Athlete pack as a better option here as it holds more non-camera related items than the Shimoda 40 does.
Hi Mark!! First, want to say that the video is top job....a very comprehensive and detailed video about all three bags, very well done!. I just need to say somenthing...the score for the Ajna on water carry was 3,5 even having two pockets (zipped, I know...would be awesome if they were mesh ones...but you can fit 2L bottles in there) and "water bladder" inside....and the score for the Shimoda is 4,5 NOT having side pockets and just the water bladder...I simply don't understand :-) I have the Ajna since March and have to say, it's a good bag. I agree with you, the tripod carry options are almost non-existent (or complicated / not very good ones), and also it's not 100% confortable over long periods of time. Overall, I think it should get at least 24points...
Many thanks Guillermo! My biggest water related gripe with the Ajna bag is that even if you zip a water bottle in the side pockets there is no way to access it without taking the bag off. With the Shimoda, there is just the pocket on the harness system to carry a small water bottle, but it can be easily accessed without taking the entire pack off.
Just found your channel and subscribed. I've been an avid Fstop bag owner for years (currently have 4 packs), but am open to better options. I'm not sure if you have mentioned it or tried it, but hands down my favorite way to carry a tripod is with the Fstop tripod bag. It straps on, conceals and protects the tripod, weights very little, and quick & easy to slip the tripod in or out. I hate strapping tripod naked to the pack. I almost always have a tripod bag on each side. The 2nd one is either empty, or a great place to stow extra jacket, macro paraphernalia, or other extra gear. Would carry a sleeping bag or other light bulky stuff very well, too. To each his own, but Mark, I would never carry a laptop in that back panel of the Shimoda or any other pack. Way too much pressure and twisting potential to stress out a laptop not designed for that kind of stress.
Hi Mark, Thanks for posting this video. I had been looking forward to seeing this kind of comparison. I am thinking of ordering the Atlas athlete pack but there a few things on which I would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks 1 - ICU dividers: The dividers are chunky and seem to protect the gear very well but they take a lot of space and do not have 90 degree angles. This is fine if you store lenses and camera body separately but not if you want to store the camera with lens attached. All setups I’ve seen online do look pretty messy and not very efficient in terms of space usage. 2 - Thin profile: I love the fact that it can compress and have a really thin profile when the pack isn’t full. This is mostly due to the shallow ICU but at 5.25” of depth, it doesn’t leave much room to store gear vertically. Can it store a DJI remote vertically or do you need to lay it flat? 3 - Side pockets: I am a water bottle guy and I often carry a water bottle on one side and a tripod on the other side of my backpacks. The side pockets are stretchy and huge which is great for water bottles of all sizes. The material looks a bit loose so does it really hold water bottles firmly? Do the side pockets have some sort of lining on the inside or are they made of simple stretchy material? If the latter, the side pockets will most likely stretch and rip over time. By the way, there’s another very important criteria... weight! The Atlas athlete seems to be one of the lightest.
Hi Bruno. Jumping in on your questions. 1) 90 degree dividers actually take up a lot more room and are very inefficient. I know this b/c I make this mistake on an early production run. Everybody complained about the dividers. Now everyone (including Mark loves them). I promise, they are excellent and will spoon your glass unlike anything you have ever used before. 2) The DJI remove will not stand up vertically. I personally do not keep mine in the camera core. I prefer to keep in in the brain. If you are looking to store in the camera core I highly recommend getting the plastic guard for the joysticks. 3) The side pocket material is highly stretchy and will do an excellent job holding and securing water bottles up to 32oz in size. There is actually a short clip in Mark's video that shows this. Of note, Mark did not push his bottle all the way down, it's riding pretty high in the vid ;-). Regarding the material, it is not at all loose. The fabric is highly resistant to wear and tear and just like all parts of the pack, fully covered by a lifetime warranty. You can expect many many years of excellent service from your Atlas Pack. PS: The Athlete weights 3.6lbs. Cheers and thanks, Allan
Hi Allan, Good to see you taking the time to step in and answer my questions. I may put an order through over the weekend because I kind of need to have it in my hands and use it before I can fully comment. In the meantime, here are a few comments on your comments as well as some initial feedback/perception, when comparing it with other backpacks I’ve used. Dividers: I have no doubts that they will hug the gear but looking at your Instagram, I can’t find a single setup/layout that doesn’t look messy with dividers overlapping. It looks really clean when the camera and lenses are packed separately but who really does that? I tend to leave a lens mounted on my camera at all times just in case I need to access it and take a photo of something suddenly. Also, I don’t think gear will suffer with slightly thinner dividers such as the ones on the Shimoda or Mindshift backpacks. Mark says he’s happy with the dividers but every time he shows it, it’s empty so a bit difficult to see if he’s using it as one would do when out and about. Thin profile/depth: I would rather trade the thickness of the dividers by some extra packing space, like a DJI remote even if packed side ways. Packing the remote in the top compartment or brain as you call it, would require opening another compartment. It is much easier when the remote is packed next to the drone. I can already see myself laying the backpack flat, opening it from the back to take my drone out and then flipping it around to reach the top compartment for the remote. If I forget to zip the back panel, all the gear will go on the floor. By the way, The Mavic air and new mavic 2 remotes have removable sticks so you no longer need the guard. Side pockets: They look baggy when empty or when the pack is compressed. I think it works fine with large water bottles but I don’t think they will hold a GoPro with grip or a gorilla tripod without tightening the side strap. I wasn’t aware that the pack had a lifetime warranty but unless you’ve used some sort of alien stretchy material, it will likely rip over time after lugging a tripod up and down. There are a lot of adventure backpacks out there but none is perfect, including the atlas athlete pack. However, it comes very close to what I am looking for. We’ll see if close enough but here are a few things I would have liked to see: - Thinner, origami style dividers to pack more gear and more efficiently. Shimoda and peak design use them. - Slightly deeper ICU or some sort of stretch/expansion when packing slightly longer items such as a DJI remote or that one lens that currently sticks out by just 2cm - Adjustable side pockets so they don’t flap around when compressed or empty. The mindshift backlight has elastics with an adjuster depending on what you want to pack. - A dedicated tripod pocket. The stretchy material ripped on all my previous backpacks and it will likely be the same with this one. The new Lowepro Powder 500 has a tripod pocket stored on one of the side pockets and can be packed away when not in use. Tripod sits there very comfortably and the side straps only have to hold it into place rather than supporting the tripod’s weight. This tripod pocket could be packed away in the the water bladder pocket, in a similar way as the pockets available on the hip belt. Alternatively, an internally lined side pocket would make it more durable. Perhaps even a hard bottom to allow anyone to carry a tripod with spikes. - An adjustable and removable top compartment so the pack can be used without it or when overpacking the non camera gear compartment. By being adjustable, it would be possible to make the backpack longer and pack a lot more stuff. The new Lowepro Powder 500 has it too. - Less loud logos. As is, it looks like a sponsored article which the owner actually paid for so I would definitely remove some logos or at least reduce their side. For those who are interested in the Lowepro Powder 500, it’s a great backpack but the quality of the materials used is questionable. The zippers and zipped holders are flimsy and my backpack had several line stitches sticking out. It’s also not height adjustable so it’s pretty much one size fits all. Regards, Bruno
@@bguerre1ro Hey Bruno. Each of my packs serves a specific purpose with design language based on each use-case. The packs are by no means perfect. We are still a very young and new brand. Everything and anything can be better. Anything on the packs can be changed. I am not a backpack designer and not stuck on any one feature of function. My only commitment is to making the packs better and this will only happen by challenging the conventional systems and offering users something that functions differently from what they are use to. Atlas Packs do not function like other camera bags. They are designed to make you work and think differently. As an example of this, the Athlete Pack only has 10 liters of space for camera gear vs. the 30-35 liters allocated to camera storage in the other bags. If all you need is a bag to hold camera gear, I suggest buying a camera bag. If you want to bring camera gear and personal items get an Atlas Pack. Thanks, Allan
@@AtlasPacks Allan, congrats to you guys with your Atlas packs. They sound phenomenal, and once my Sukha bites the dust (which doesn't look to be anytime soon, I'm glad to report), I will absolutely consider one. I love their apparent flexibility and utility, and the overall design philosophy.
Great video mark. I spent many an hour looking at bags. ended up with the shimoda 60. Almost went for the atlas, but felt the icu was to narrow and import to uk was a hassle. Maybe one day i can have all three 👍👍😊😊
Another great video and just love the intro/B-roll that you have up front! Your presentations are thoughtful and clear, a pleasure to listen to you. I tried the Atlas Athlete, which has all the features I'm looking for (water bottle holder, room for non-camera gear, and comfort). Alas, it won't fit a full DSLR and the Adventure is too large and too heavy, if only the Athlete were a teeny tad deeper. BTW, I thought you were an extra 0.5 points lenient on the Shimoda for water carry.
I really hope they don't make the Athlete deeper. I have gone mirrorless and like the idea of camera storage that is a bit more snug. My Sony gear tends to knock around in my Shimoda. Now if Atlas were to introduce an additional Athlete or similar bag with a deeper camera storage area that would be find. Maybe an Athlete X. But I would be disappointed if they made everything for the larger bodies. Lots of people going mirrorless to the smaller size and that applies to camera bags.
Dan Higgins I agree, Atlas should not make the Athlete deeper. There should be bags for mirrorless cameras. It's hard, if not impossible, to find the "just right" bag. I've finally given up and gone with an Osprey backpack for comfort and space for jackets, etc.
This video was exactly what I needed to help me make a purchase decision. Great rating categories and the score totals screen was very helpful. Great job!
Hey Jim. How’s the pack. Do you know about our Ambassador Challenge Series. Send me a DM on Instagram @atlaspacks and I’ll get u an invite. Thx Allan :)
Thank you for your review. I am particularly interested in the Atlas bag as it seems to have the most flexibility but I have owned the F-Stop Ajna and Lotus bags for a few years now. There are two points I don't completely agree with your review on the F-Stop bag. I noticed that the ICU you have in the Ajna is pretty big and is deep, when compared to the other two bags. If you swap this out for one of the shallow ICU's then the bag can carry much more non camera gear. . Second, I think you are judging the Ajna much more harshly for water carry then the Shimoda. It appears to me that they have the same options for water carry and therefore should have been scored more closely. Thank you for taking the time to compare the bags.
Dominic Uliano My pleasure and thanks for watching it! When it comes to water carry the biggest difference to me between the Ajna and Shimoda is that the Shimoda does have an option to access water without having to remove the pack where the Ajna doesn’t - this was really the basis of my score.
I love that the Shimoda has side access but I wish it was a door rather than just a zipper. I don't think I'd use it as is. A side door would work really well with the integrated compartment in the Atlas. Maybe Allan will include it in the Athlete v2. :-)
Hey Mark! Great video, and super review! I currently sport the LowePro ProTactic 450 and have been searching for a bag with more carry options. Atlas looks like a winner. Glad to support your channel👍🏻 Merry Christmas🎄
Christine Kenyon Thanks so much Christine! The Atlas Athlete and Shimoda 40 are my two favorites right now - really can’t wrong with either one👍 Always appreciate your support and I hope you have a very Merry Christmas🎄❄️
Fstop Ajna 40L Pack disagreements: 1. How much internal space for non-photo gear depends on which ICU you chose. I chose the medium and have plenty of spare space. 2. I carry my tripod on the back and it works perfectly for me with no flopping about and it's easily accessible. 3. There is provision for a water bladder but I carry a zig bottle in one of the side pockets, my preference. 4. Possibly the most comfortable backpack even on long walks.
Great video. Just subscribed. I've had the Fstop Ajna for about 3 years and the shortcomings you mentioned were all pet peeves of mine. Been researching the Shimodo but never heard of the Atlas. As I hike quite a bit I will definitely put it into consideration.
Great video and editing that intro Mark. I'm in the process of deciding I think on the Atlas Adventure but your reviews and my chats with Allan at Atlas both been very helpful. Also this is a nice distraction from the crazy politics currently here in England !! (Hey but you're used to that over there !! )
If you like touring skiing, and to take you camera with you the Atlas its perfect. I think you can care your skis on the side, and it will fit also survival equipment. For me the Atlas will be my next backpack.
Interesting Review on all bags, specially if You are on a tight budget and being able to buy only one... I think there is only one important point missing on the evaluation and that is ENVIRONMENT HOLDING capability, like heavy rain, water splashing, heavy wet fog etc... would have been great to see it as an important point to look in a camera bag. Anyway it´s been very well covered most of the important issues on a camera bag/backpack... Sincerely: Juan Molina
I just stumbled across your space. And all I can say is I am glad I did. I have been looking for a bag like that atlas for months. And I thought all that was available was stuff like lowepro. I must not have been asking or searching correct criteria. I am an avid backpacker/day hiker and my daughters are getting into photography and video and they can also use the bag. Now to see if I can carry a bivy and some other items to make it an overnight or weekend pack. Thanks for the reviews
Even though you mentioned comfort in the straps on the SHIMODA it may prove to be a hindrance to we women with more to carry in front ...so to speak...would have to try one on to make a full assessment..thank you for posting this and the time taken...much appreciated.
I’ll probably end up selling my Ajna bag and getting the Shimoda. I like the Atlas pack but I don’t like the color options and I personally don’t like how big Atlas put their name on the pack. You’re basically a walking billboard for them 😂😂
Thanks for the great review! These high-end camera backpacks sure look very attractive! Shimoda is having a Kickstarter campaign for their new Action X backpacks which also has removable waist belt. They look nice, but I still like Atlas Athlete's drawstring opening and expandability/compactability... My ideal camera backpack would be Atlas Athlete pack (without the big logo) + Shimoda shoulder straps + Lowepro Flipside Trek's ability to open the camera compartment fully/half-way without taking the bag off (some sort of modification to the lumbar support/waist belt base).
Mark, the new Shimoda 30 is now shipping, would love to see a review on the new but smaller pack compares. Major difference : Removable waist belt on the new 30. However I am interested seeing a comparison in comfort and capacity vs.the 40L.
Scott Katzenoff Hey Scott! Not sure if I’ll be doing a review on then 30L, but it is a potential option just not sure there’s enough difference between the 30 and 40 to justify a stand-alone video on it. I would like to give the 30l a try though🤔
Mark, this is a great review and most helpful. I have owned an Ajna (just sold it) but switched to the Shimoda 40L which I find far more comfortable. That said, I have the same thoughts on the Shimoda that you have. I wish there were pockets for water bottles - real water bottles. I which the waist belt were removable (though I believe they may now offer a removable waistbelt but I may be wrong on that - mine is not.) I wish the straps on the Shimoda were a bit less wide and cluttered so that I could more easily use my Peak Design Capture attachments. I wish they had not provided a side access zipper on one side as I find it not that functional and that side could have been used for something else (like utility pockets such as the Athlete has.) I wish I could get a shallower ICU as I moved to mirrorless and my Sony gear tends to knock around in the ICU. Though I don't and won't backpack with this bag or travel with it, I do appreciate having a bit more storage for non-camera gear. (I would be happier with 20L but I could deal with what the Athlete offers.) One thing that I prefer with the Shimoda and in fact the primary selling point for me is the adjustable attachment points for the harness. The Athlete comes in 2 sizes but the Shimoda has 4 different attachment points for the straps which allows you to dial in the fit which makes a big difference if you are, like me, relying on the waist belt for supporting as much weight as possible. Mark, since you have both do you have an idea how the torso measurements compare between the Athlete and the Shimoda? I have my Shimoda set to Medium (though could use Large). Which Athlete size would most closely match that. I also prefer the cleaner look of the Shimoda and they way you can conceal the excess strap material. But if I can be assured that the Athlete would fit (and that I won't regret buying it when they come out with an improved model a month later ;-) then I would get one.
Dan Higgins Hey Dan! Happy New Year and thanks for the comment! I know Atlas offers different sizes for the waist belt - if you reach out to Allan at Atlas he’d be more than willing to help you out with any questions you have - super nice guy👍
Hey, Mark. Happy New Year to you as well. The Athlete is ordered. (We'll see how good they are at delivering over the holidays. ;-) I did exchange thoughts with Allan. He recommended the taller size and an appropriate waist belt - at least to start with. Once the Athlete gets here I'll load it up with my gear and compare it to my Shimoda. I'll also need to figure out a way to deal with the Athlete's "strap-aggedon"! Sheez there are a lot of long straps.
What about waterproof/resistance? I marvel that this is rarely considered an important feature of a bag designed for carying very expensive camera gear.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto You would think but remarkably it's not. Most camera backpacks give you a waterproof cover but they never show it on with a tripod attached? Funny that.
Thanks for that - I didn't realize that it also had a removable waist belt! That's a huge benefit in a 40L pack IMO - not so much in a 60L+ bag, but crucial in 40L and below. Thanks for watchin Shak!
Mark Denney yeah definitely removable belt and a great compact design. Only couple of downsides for me: it looks like a typical camera bag, doesn’t have a outdoor backpack look to it ; and there’s very little room for non camera gear, the interior is pretty much all dedicated to camera gear
Thank you for this review. It helped me a lot to make a decision after months of reviewing and testing bags. I decided to go with the Atlas Pack because it also completes my hiking necessities. Adam (the founder) helped me buying the right size for me.
I was looking at the PRVKE yesterday at my local camera store. It seems very well made. I like the side access. I like roll-top bags but why the precise heck did WANDRD put Velcro on theirs? Do they just like to hear that ripping sound everywhere they go?
Great video Mark. I’ve really loved your bag reviews, and I’ve been wanting to pick-up an Atlas Pack since you first reviewed it. However, I’m looking for an all-around solution for my travel needs. I need a solution that can carry all my gear when I travel AND be used when I get there, rather than using another bag. It doesn’t look like the Athlete Pack is the right size for me (usually bring a lot of lenses); although, it would be the perfect size once I do get to my destination. I’m looking at the Adventure bag, you first reviewed, to carry all my gear when I travel. Do you think the Adventure pack is too big to carry around at my destinations? I don’t want to look like a mountaineer walking around town or into a coffee shop. Thanks.
Peter Song Thanks so much Peter! Glad you enjoy the videos. The Adventure pack is a large bag but like the Athlete pack it can be tightened down to accommodate a smaller load thus keeping the overall size down as well for when your at your location. How many lenses and bodies do you normally travel with?
Mark Denney Hey Mark, thanks for the quick response. I usually have my 2 Sony bodies with about 5-6 lenses. For Sony mirrorless it sounds doable but most of my lenses are GMs (24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 16-35 2.8, 24 1.4, etc.). Since I do a lot of different things when I travel (landscape, street, video), it's tough to slim down before I go, but I usually don't walk around with all that when I get there.
Hey Peter, I love this question. Thanks for asking! One of the things I like to talk to customers about is my experiences using the packs and your question is one of my top talking points. I personally prefer the Athlete over the Adventure for exactly your reasoning. You will look like a mountaineer with the Adventure ;-). If the destinations is a rural / 3rd world, a ski resort, or a far off land like Iceland where big gear is part of the experience, the Adventure Pack is best. For most domestic travel and 1st world cities in EU/UK/Asia, the Athlete Pack is a much better tool for the job. You will feel much more comfortable with the Athlete Pack at a local coffee shop, bar/restaurant. Having a smaller footprint is best in small streets, crowded subways and busy airports. And one of the main reasons why we made the belts on all our packs removable. One of my favorite features and something Mark really likes as well. **Are you sure all your gear will not fit in the Athlete? Send me a DM @atlaspacks on instagram so we can get into the details of your kit. Cheers and thanks. Allan
@@AtlasPacks - Hi Allan, Wow...direct response from Atlas Packs. Thank you. I'll DM you soon. I had a nice laugh when you confirmed that I "will look like a mountaineer with the Adventure"...made me so happy to have this conversation.
Very nice tnx; I've been eyeballing these 3 bags for a long time (my favourite being the Atlas Athlete) and I was looking for a side-by-side comparison and I think your videos hits all the right points ; so a big thank you. I have been debating though if I should go for the Adventure; Athlete's big brother because I only occasionally need more space. More space is necessary when doing international travel so you want to max on the gear you carry in the cabin and then when you reach your destination leave any unnecessary staff (e.g. battery chargers, back up drives, flash, laptop) at your hotel and only carry the staff necessary for each outing. So if you have the bigger brother or can get it in for a review I would love a comparison between the two Atlas packs. I suppose if you have a 400 f/2.8 upwards then it has to be the Adventure. But when you do not carry long glass in it how small can you get the Adventure to be? Plus it is three kilos so even if you are able to hinge the Adventure down to the size of the Athlete you'll be carrying an extra kilo around for no reason (which is roughly the equivalent of carrying an extra body, a spare cammera battery and a few filters). I would buy both but then I already have 2 other backpacks and several other camera bags so I've been sitting on the fence (to avoid the Mrs sending me to the doghouse:-))
Hey Mark, Great video as always... just one little bitty comment. This is actually about the f-stop bag and waterbottles... there are a lot of different style waterbottles available these days. I would encourage people to explore options beyond the nontraditional round shapes bottles. There are much more space efficient designs out there (IMO) that work with the ajna or similar shaped low profile pockets. - Regards Ian
Shimoda Designs Hi Ian, agree but isn’t a durable stretchy pocket a universal solution that works for most case scenarios? Slightly off-topic and perhaps controversial but do the Shimoda mirrorless ICU dividers fit in the Atlas Athlete? I really like your backpacks but struggle with the colour options as well as the missing side water bottle pocket. The tripod carry pocket seems to do its job but it isn’t a super clean design. I am currently more inclined towards the Atlas, especially due to the thin profile and even if way too loud logos, slightly better colour options.
@@bguerre1ro Hey Bruno, stretch pockets work for some - but some they do not. IMO based on my experience & R&D - Jersey gets abused by tripods that develop sharp edges or suffer from rock abrasion, as well as skis/boards do a number on them and they also tend to fill with snow (ofcourse that doesn't mean that happens to everyone). Anyhow, I personally think it is perfectly fine there are a growing amount of options for photographers. There are so many different styles of photography and photographers and the way each person gets from point A to B... 'adventure' is a very broad field where very few people go about it the same way with the same gear (at least from my experience). Options are good for everyone... - Ian
Thanks Ian! It was definitely a fun video to make. That's a great point, the days of the cylindrical hard shell water bottle as the only option are long gone. I think you were the one that originally turned me on to the flexible water bottle solution which I use in the shoulder harness pocket of your pack - which works well.
Shimoda Designs Thanks for your comment. I understand that stretch pockets do not work for everyone. Especially considering their durability issues... What if the side pocket was replaceable? I appreciate the experience and r&d that you’ve invested into the design but I currently have no solution to hold a water bottle other than hooking it to the backpack. The definition of adventure backpack may actually be the issue here. If you’ve designed it to be worn by extreme people, who will be carrying skis and all sorts of extreme stuff, I get it. However, you’ve omitted that one pocket that “normal” people need to hold their water bottle, beer or whatever other item they want. I would have purchased the Shimoda explore 40 should it have a side pocket, and perhaps also a different colour. The thing is I am one of those “normal” people who kind of have time to stop and drink from a bottle. Therefore, I’ll have to go with the Atlas pack and perhaps buy one of your ICU’s so I can replace the dividers of the Atlas with yours - I still think that your dividers are better than the chunky ones on the Atlas.
Shimoda Designs Thanks for your comment. I understand that stretch pockets do not work for everyone. Especially considering their durability issues but what if the side pocket was replaceable? I appreciate the experience and r&d that you’ve invested into the design but I currently have no solution to hold a water bottle other than hooking it to the backpack. The definition of adventure backpack may actually be the issue here. If you’ve designed it to be worn by extreme people, who will be carrying skis and all sorts of extreme stuff, I get it. However, that one pocket that “normal” people need to hold their water bottle, beer or whatever other item they want is missing. I would have probably purchased the Shimoda explore 40 should it had a side pocket, and perhaps also a different colour. The thing is I am one of those “normal” people who kind of have time to stop and drink from a bottle so the Atlas pack is a better fit. However, I’ll probably buy one of your ICU’s so I can replace the dividers of the Atlas with yours - I still think that your dividers are a better design.
Interesting. I wish you had reviewed/compared the Shimoda Action (top loader) instead. Also, why only 4.5 for the tripod carry on the Shimoda. Thanks for this review. Super helpful - even 4 years later.
It seems that atlas fits me better(I have many none photography equipments too). But here in China atlas is much more expensive (140 us dollars or more) than the other two, so I think I would go for the Shimoda.
If Atlas allowed you to purchase two versions one with removable ICU and one with it in permanently, it would click a lot more folks boxes. Also the wider strap of the Shimoda is slick for the comfort factor .. I personally like the fact you can shrink the size of the Atlas when your not taking nothing more than your camera gear on a days outing rather than an overnight or longer. A little less branding on the Atlas would be helpful, but I understand the manufactures train of thought there.... Thanks for the comparison Mark.
Very nice comparison and incredibly helpful. Thanks for pulling it together. I just ordered the Atlas. Wish I'd had it for my recent trip to Iceland. Looks perfect for my needs. I was very frustrated with the LowePro packs; they don't seem to get it.
My Atlas Athlete bag should be arriving this morning. I hope it lives up to all the hype. Regarding the colours of the Atlas pack, I don't particularly like either the black or the yellow but as I do a heap of cycling I concluded that the yellow will help me be more visible when riding on the road.
Let us know what your thoughts are? I am kind of ok with the colours. Black for stealth and yellow for here I am and for photos where you are standing in your shot. The logo is where I am struggling... that huge logo on the front, on the back, on the straps. It feels a bit like a sponsorship.
Great review! Thank you very much! I wonder if you have ever tried or considered Lowepro Whistler 450 AW version one and what are your thoughts on it. I have been using it for two years now. I did choose it because of the possibility to carry also other things, not only a camera. When buying it I was struggling a lot to find anything which works both for hiking and camera gear. It seems that the situation is has improved a lot since then. About the removable insert, I find it very convenient that I can remove it with all my camera gear still inside of it and put it into a roller when needed. This makes travelling with camera gear on the plane a lot easier. My solution is working for me now, but I do constantly look if there is anything better on the market. Newest version of the Whistler doesn't have this removable insert so I am a bit disappointed with it. Once again thank you for the video! I just wanted to add my thoughts.
I saw the complete video on UA-cam on my TV. Excellent video. I would definitely like to go for Atlas, but the bag is pretty expensive. Perhaps it is worth an investment though.
Seriously loved this! I am getting ready to buy an RV and travel the US backpacking long distances so this review was super important because my relatively cheaper lowpro bags just dont do enough. Thank you! #liked and #subbed lol
Hey Mark... After a couple of years now, how do you feel the Atlas bag stands up to the field? I've been eye-balling it for a couple of months. Thanks! Great comparison video.
This Atlas bag seems awesome, but I would miss a bit the access on the side. The Shimodas X series has came out, in 3 sizes (30, 50 and 70 liters). I just wonder which would could compare to the Atlas Athlete to put non camera gears in? It seems the 40 you show has not alot of non camera space compared to the Atlas, is that true? So perhaps the Shimoda X50 would compare to the Athlete in terms of non camera space. Would you like to answer this one?
So I’m looking at atlas adventure bag. I’ honestly liked this one the most based on your video feedback. I have to ask a taboo question: where is the product fabricated? I see they are based in the US and warehouse is in US, but do they outsource for manufacturing? Want to make sure that price is reflective of the TLC put in the manufacturing process :) Thank you’
Great review. Your review of the Atlas from several weeks ago got me to buy the Athlete (speaking with Alan, the owner, also helped). While I wasn't able to try the Athlete, I was able to try the other two at my LCS. They are great bags, but I would agree with you that the Athlete has a little more to offer when it comes to the personal items space.
Hi Mark, got 2 questions. How do you do at the airports when passing security? do you have to remove all your gear and refill it? Is it allowed as hand luggage? are these bags waterproof?
Ashwin Ramnawaj I’ve only been asked to remove gear once I believe but most of the time it’s never requested. Yep their water resistant not 100% waterproof but resistant
Mark, I know its not as big as you would like but did you every look at the 30L version? Can't really find to much info on it. I guess the water bottle holder is the biggest issue I am finding with more bags than I thought. I am wanting a smaller bag that only needs to hold 2-3 lenses only with a a7Riii. The 40L seem just a little too big but I like being able to select a smaller camera ICU than the Atlas comes with. Any recommendations?
Good video. That said, style is so subjective, person to person, that it is probably not worth considering. On the other hand, I am very interested to know your thoughts about durability. While you prefaced the bulk of the video with a comment that all three bags were built to a high standard, looking at the bags, I got the feeling that the Shimoda was perhaps a little more rugged than the Atlas in terms of material choice. Would that be a fair observation, or would you say, not so? Another item that concerns me is balance. When packed up with gear, especially a tripod, do you find any victor in that department? I liked the look of the Atlas in that regard. I could imagine using those big side pockets to create balance by moving items around a little. Next, and this is a big one, weight. Unloaded, which bag is lightest, and is there any significant differences between the bags? Otherwise, thank you for a comprehensive look at those three bags. Finally, comes value. How do they compare in terms of price? Do you see one as providing the best bang for the buck, or are they all rather similar in that regard?
Thank you very much for your content man! You have a new sub! :) Btw, since the Atlas stuff isn't available easily (yet) in Europe, I saw that LowePro just released the Powder BP 500 AW. It seems a pretty good competitor. Do you have any plans to try it out?
Actually with the F-stop bag you buy a special accessory to attach a tripod. I've never heard of anybody attaching it like you tried to. Just go to the F-stop website and you will see their are two options of attachment bags for different sized tripods.
Any thoughts on the Gitzo Adventury 30L? I'm looking for a similar bag to the ones you have, but slightly smaller. I really like the Atlas bag you showed, but it's above my budget.
Thanks, Mark! I was hoping one of these recommendations might work for me today, but naturally the links (and probably products) are out of date. Still looking for a 2021 adventure landscape backpack for Iceland!
@@MarkDenneyPhoto I've just heard back from Ian at Shimoda who can only say I "should" receive the Explorer V2 in early September but can't guarantee it. What a shame! With my luck, it'll arrive the week of the 12th, so my search continues for a bag I can get my hands on and work with in advance of the trip.
Thank you for the Review. About the Atlas Athlete Pack. Why did you get the Large version apposed to the Medium version? Does the Frame size make that much of a Difference? Thank you.
The reason that Shimoda still wins for me is the removable ICUs with their separate carry bags. We all tend to overload carry on bags. If you get called out for a gate check the ability to pull the ICU as a personal bag and carry on your most important equipment is invaluable. Additionally, I like to check my 40 liter Shimoda backpack. And carry on my heavy heavy roller bag with the backpack full of my clothes etc. Then when I get where I am going I switch my camera gear to the backpack from the roller bag. Removable ICUs allow for this to happen. It works in airports for real traveling in a way that the Athlete does not. I have a show on UA-cam where we cover the Shimoda and the roller from them. GearTime Live with Photog Adventures. Love your show Mark.
I prefer the integrated ICU in the Atlas Bags over the removable ICUs from Shimoda. It's interesting that you end up also taking a separate roller bag, because I always end up trying to load clothes, camping gear, and camera gear into my bag. The Atlas bags have ended up winning so far, but that might change now that my Shimoda Action X70 finally arrived. How do you feel the Shimoda works better than the Athlete in airports?
Thanks for doing this comparison Mark. These bags are so expensive for some of us. We have to get it right the first time
Interesting camera bag review Mark - these are certainly the premium brands to choose from.
I use an F-Stop Loka 35Ltr backpack which I'm quite happy with, but am looking into a larger camera bag for longer hikes & overseas travel (needs to be carry-on friendly).
Some observations about the 3 packs you reviewed from a guy who worked for over 15yrs in the outdoor retail industry as a buyer for a major Aussie company:
Shimoda 40L Explorer - I've been hearing some positive things about this brand, especially regarding the comfort of the harness system.
The F-Stop bags have a decent harness system but one that is inferior to top pack companies like Osprey, Gregory or Deuter.
Shimoda seems to have nailed the harness system, though I'd stress that comfort is very personal and everybody's torso is unique, so you have to try before you buy.
You can adjust the length of the harness to suit various torso lengths and this I see as an advantage.
Personally, I find the Shimoda pack designs somewhat agricultural-looking - I'd probably score them about 3/5 for looks.
Would prefer some more organisation pockets for smaller items. The Shimoda is the worst out the 3 in this department by some margin.
I also prefer water bottles even though using a hydration bladder is a much more efficient way of keeping the fluids up.
Disappointed that the Shimoda doesn't have water bottle side pockets.
Not a big fan of how the back panel opens sideways - seems less secure potentially for your camera gear.
I also prefer carrying the tripod in the middle of the pack for balance - especially when scrambling on rough terrain.
Shimoda doesn't seem to provide for this option - though their tripod carrying solution seems a well thought out implementation.
Though the disadvantage of my way of carrying the tripod in the middle of the pack is the tripod is slightly further away from your back which equates to a heavier effective carrying weight.
It's generally preferable to keep heavy items closer to your back.
Atlas Athlete Pack - looks like there's a new kid in town & better for all the gear heads as more competition will push designs & quality.
This pack definitely is the most versatile out of the trio and by far the best option if you wanna go backcountry on overnight trips with it's expanding lid design.
But having said that 40Ltr backpacks filled with camera gear are not usually an option for overnight use - need 60-70ltrs I reckon.
The ability of the Atlas packs to customise the pack by choosing various sizes hipbelts and harness lengths leave the other two behind in their wake.
Removable internal frames and hipbelt are clever design features.
I like the way the rear pack opening works - similar to the F-Stop bags.
Though beware of the Atlas Adventure Pack's (The Athlete's bigger brother) design where the whole back including the harness flips out to the side!
Talk about a major brain explosion! Every time you sit the pack down & open it you potentially will get dirt, mud, or snow on the harness.
Mark, I'm still trying to work out why you find a fixed ICU system beneficial!?
For my money the ability to swap ICU units depending on the trip & how much gear you want to take is a major bonus.
Appears to me that the Atlas doesn't have a lot of room in the ICU for camera gear without performing some origami tricks and even then it still looks more suited to smaller mirrorless gear.
Certainly unimpressed with the large 'Atlas' logo screaming out as a walking advertisement. Ugh!
F-Stop Ajna (Red Bull edition) - firstly I'd say that this pack was probably the wrong choice for you.
You would've been much better off with the 50Ltr Tilopa.
I know you're comparing 40Ltr packs but the Ajna has a shorter back length that would be more suitable for shorter guys or perhaps our lady shooters.
The Tilopa's harness is approx 3" (7.5cms) longer and would probably carry more comfortably.
The fact that information isn't common knowledge is F-Stop's fault for burying the information on their website.
The Tilopa would have given you some more storage for non-camera gear too with the extra 10Ltrs of capacity.
The F-Stop harness system needs a bit of a revamp methinks. Maybe 5yrs ago they were ahead of the pack, but the pack has waved to them as they went past.
That situation may have happened due to the guy who was running the business almost running F-Stop into the ground financially.
Sadly, customer service, the supply of the packs, and perhaps potential new designs suffered due to this.
Hopefully they'll pick up their game in the future.
Final Thoughts:
So none of the packs are perfect - the Holy Grail is still out there somewhere, but boy has camera bag design improved in recent years.
We're spoilt for choice with camera bags for landscape photography.
25-30yrs ago when I was shooting film (Fuji Velvia) the only game in town was Lowe-Pro & there were very few bags that catered to photographers who wanted to head out from suburbia.
Providing for non-camera gear was virtually an afterthought.
It's a great time to be an outdoor or travel photographer!
As for myself & my search for a larger camera bag, I'll be considering the Shimoda 60Ltr Explorer or the (defunct) F-Stop Satori or Sukha.
Who knows somethin' new & exciting may arrive on the market!
Shimoda Explore 60L is quite different from the 40L. It has a brain, so more pockets for organization. Shimoda is also having a new Action X series.
@@marcoc2706 The Action series looks pretty good actually.
Great video, very well done. I do believe that most photography pack makers forget about the extra stuff (rain jackets, food, two water bottles, gloves and rain pants and perhaps even a vest) that wildlife/landscape photographers take out with them. I think I may look at the Atlas pack. I use a Lowpro Whistler 450 which I really like but can't get the extra gear in when I am going out for a day or long morning/afternoon. plus it tends to let me carry more than I need in camera gear. :)
I received my Atlas Athlete today and absolutely agree that it is an awesome hybrid backpack. My only wish would be that the pockets that connect to the waist belt extended out further away from the backpack or were part of the removable waist belt and were positioned closer to the pelvis area for greater accessibility. I packed it up today and was able to fit a ton of stuff in this backpack:
I was able to pack:
2 cameras Fuji X-T3 and X- T2
1 battery grip
1 battery charger
1 small Godox flash
6 lenses
1 joby tripod
13 inch MacBook Air w/charger
9.7 inch iPad w/charger
1 over the ear headphones. ( Bowers and Wilkins P5s)
4 pants
6 shirts
6 underwear
6 pair socks
1 belt
1 gym shorts
Running shoes
1 Peak design field pouch full of camera stuff
1 notebook
1 iPhone and charger
I still had room for a few more small items. The bag weighed in at 35 pounds. I can’t wait to travel with it.
Welcome to the family :-) Stoked you are loving your Atlas Pack.
Of note, the hip belt pockets are offset by design. I recognize and agree that it makes accessing them awkward. Keep in mind that no other pack has this option. With other packs you have to use the tripod pockets and those are even more awkward to get into and out of. BTW: Mark did not mention the pop-out pockets in his video. They are big enough to hold a 32oz bottle.= so more place to store water :-).
PS: The reason the pockets are set behind the pelvis is to stay out of your way of your arms when you are walking. We had them forward in some early versions and everyone complained about how they got in the way.
Cheers and thanks.
Allan
AtlasPacks The fog has lifted...thanks for the explanation, it all makes perfect sense. I’ve sold two fellow shooters on the athlete backpack in the first three hours...my commission can be sent to 🤑
@@AtlasPacks Allan, I believe I would really like these hip belt pockets. The fact that they can be stowed when not used and then are large enough to hold a lens during a change is great. And I see now the reason for them being set back a bit. In addition, I would appreciate some webbing that would allow me to use a Peak Design Capture on the hip belt "in front" of the pockets. Or maybe people would like to attach other form pouch there.
Can you fit a tent and or a bivy in there yet and possibly a sleeping pad on the outside?
Most airlines have a weight limit of less than 25 pounds so I can't see how you can travel like that...
For times when not packing a bunch of non camera gear or a laptop. I've taken to placing the tripod in the main compartment of the Atlas Athlete. Slide the tripod down past the the camera compartment and cinch down the brain. Weight is nice and centered.
Barnaby DiAnni That’s a good idea - haven’t thought of that configuration before👍
I really enjoyed this review especially since these are not the 3 typical bags you usally see on UA-cam. I have also heard good things about the Atlas Bag. I just wish the logo was not so prominent.
Hi Mark .. I first watched this video probably about 6 months ago as I was looking at upgrading to a more suitable back pack. The bag that caught my interest was the Atlas. The one reason I didn't get one was the price of the bag being so expensive after all its just another camera bag (Or Is It ). So I finally decided to take the plunge and ordered one and wow what an amazingly awesome piece of equipment packed full of features and so well designed. The best thing about this bag for me is how well balanced it feels when your wearing it. I can walk for miles with this thing on my back loaded with camera equipment with no problem at all. if I had not looked at your review I probably would not have purchased this bag so thanks again for your brilliant videos they do make a difference to lots of people like me.
The removable camera unit is actually really useful if you want to transition between a pelican air or mec scully dry bag, find yourself shooting from the car and want quicker access, or if you simply get into a battle with an airline and need to appease them by gate checking the outer bag. My Loka UL has mesh water bottle side pockets. I actually found my daily commuter, a wandered provoke 21, surprisingly competent for light hiking, even loaded up with snowshoes, when I needed an extra bag for a friend. The shimoda style looks more “luggage” than “adventure” to my eye.
That WANDRD PRVKE 21 is a darn-near perfect bag-it's my daily carry as well-but I don't really think of it as a competitor to these bags. A month in India? Hands down, the PRVKE 21. A 10k hike? For me, the Atlas though any one of these three would probably be better suited.
Thanks for another great video, Mark! Saw this after your Atlas Pack Review which I viewed yesterday. This one is also amazing, and helps "cinch" for me my choice to go "Atlas!" The non-camera carry, the flexibility of the camera dividers, and the portability of size for carry-on for airplanes (being able to tighten it down) is fantastic. I also love the color, which I know is purely a personal taste choice. Black is fine, too, but that jazzy yellow says "Here I am photographing the wilderness!" (OK, OK....settle down, Scott ;)!!) Truly great info, Mark! I appreciate your work on our behalf! Have a great day :)!! Scott/Minnesota
I love the yellow too!
B-roll is outstanding - your best to date. Thanks for the shout out at 0:40 along with other commenters who have requested you do a compare of these three bags. I have a number of thoughts about your review and your rating system. Rating system was first rate. You are the only UA-cam creator focusing on both tools and techniques for photography that gave some thought to how best to compare what are 3 amongst the top 5 (in my opinion only) photography backpack manufacturers that cater to an outdoorsy user. I would add ThinkTank/Mindship and LowePro to any list where someone is considering this piece of kit. Both Shimoda's (40 and 60 liter) when empty compress quite a lot if the ICUs are removed. Having the ability to remove the ICU and place it in its Shimoda supplied zipper cover case with handle makes the bag more convenient to pack and carry on your body, lenses and other breakables - especially when confronted by an ornery gate agent that doles out grief the bag loaded exceeds carry-on limits, or the bins are already full and you have no choice but to gate check, or taking on board a small plane when flying to out of the way places like islands in the SW Pacific and virtually anywhere in Africa to name two. It is this characteristic that sold me on Shimoda, and that your rating system did not account for. It is what I would term "convenience factor". Also for those who might be wondering, the 40 liter Shimoda (w/o ICUs) will fit in any soft 60 liter duffel bag with just minimal impact, leaving plenty of space to pack what normally goes in a duffel. 60 liter is the max allowed when going to Africa and flying on small planes to lodges and villages. Thank you for doing this, I got a lot of good information from it and your review convinced me I made the right choice with Shimoda.
Thanks so much for the comment, Louis! Super glad to hear you enjoyed the video and were able to get some good info out of it! I agree with you, if I were to expand the grouping it would most certainly have Mindshift and LowePro added!
Great video Mark. One thing I think you didn't touch on in the video, that is very important to me as a ski photographer who spends most of his time shooting on snow. Is the ability for a camera bag to carry all the gear that I need in a mountain environment, particularly skis. Being able to A-Frame my skis on a bag is crucial for me and the best bag in my opinion for that is the F-Stop Tilopa. When shooting in the backcountry, I need to carry my avalanche gear, shovel and probe mainly (I wear my transceiver obviously) and this bag has so much space for those as well as skins etc.
It's a 50L bag and it has a dedicated laptop sleeve. I have never had issue carrying a tripod on it despite not having the ability to put the feet into a pocket, when carrying skis, I strap the tripod to the front. In terms of compressibility, if you don't have any camera gear, you can remove the ICU, as with the Ajna and then you can synch it down really small. Also because F-Stop sell multiple different size ICU's you can use a smaller one when you have less gear and create more space for other gear or just lighten your load. For water, it has a dedicated bladder pocket with a hole for your tube and a strap on the shoulder strap to hold you mouthpiece in place.
Both these other bags look great but for adventure photography, the F-Stop has to take the win in my opinion.
I have been binge watching your channel; great content. I have been into photography for several years, but this channel has reinvigorated my passion. Thank you for everything you do!
Great comparison man. I have an Athlete on the way and i’m super excited. Allan is such a nice dude, he took over an hour to chat with me about the pack over the phone. So happy to support a company like that and I just really hope it will work well for me!
Mark just wanted to let you know that I loved the B roll in the beginning of the video. You should do it more often and I appreciate you going the extra mile by doing that. It doesn’t go unnoticed keep up the amazing work buddy!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank ya Austin! Glad you liked it - I'd like to do it more often, but I'm just so flippin slow at it, I suppose the more I do the quicker I'll get at it though. as always I appreciate ya watchin!
Mark Denney this is just my opinion but I think b roll just makes a video so much better and gives it that extra little touch but thanks again sir!
Austin Wiley I 100% agree it’s definitely icing on the proverbial cake👍
I just bought the Atlas Athlete in yellow for exactly the same reasons as you! Nice one, keep up the good work. Thanks.
The Atlas Athlete is an excellent bag. It carries weight the way a bag should for ease of movement and long treks. I used an F-Stop Tilopa for 8.5 years. Great bag for ease of access to all gear but, it never was very comfortable. The tripod mounts on the front of the bag using the top carry handle and a tarp bungee to secure it in place. But, with the Atlas, my tripod can fit inside and this is great for avoiding issues with snagging on tree branches etc... when trekking through thick rain forests.
lavapix thx for the support Bryan. Hope you are enjoying your pack. Thx Allan 👊🏽👊🏽
@lavapix how is the ventilation on the Athlete? I’m concerned about the foam mesh and finds that a suspended tensioned mesh like in Osprey Stratos or Gregory Citro is the best for heat dissipation hiking.
@@akirahojo2 It's fine for me. I'd guess it's just based on how you wear it too. Meaning of course how you adjust the load lifter straps etc... I've never had a true camera backpack that kept my back from getting sweaty to some degree. The hikes I use them for my entire body is sweating. It's how here in Hawaii.
@@lavapix thanks for the reply. Similarly, the hiking trails in NZ can be humid/hot in spring/summer. I don’t mind getting sweaty but with some bags, all I need to do was just stand with the bag fully loaded, and my back would begin to sweat.
I bought an atlas and really wanted to love it but never got on with the shoulder straps, just too thin and frankly cheap feeling…I guess pretty much as he describes the Anna shown here. So now it sits discarded in my closet only after a couple uses. =(
Interesting. I'd not heard of the Atlas bags before, but they're on my radar now. I initially didn't think the F-Stop bag you used for comparison was fair. But, after looking at the Ajna, I have to admit that I didn't realize how big the difference was in the straps and hip belt is between that bag and the Tilopa which I have. I love my F-stop Tilopa, but had been looking for a bit of a smaller bag for some occasions. I'll probably take the Tilopa off that list and add the Atlas bag to think about.
Thank you for this video! It really helped me narrow down what bag I want! I haven’t invested in a photography bag yet and now I know I will get the Atlas bag!! Thank you
Jeremy Fritsch My pleasure Jeremy! Happy to hear the vid helped you make your first camera bag buying decision👍 Thanks for watching!
Thanks Jeremy. Great to hear you are looking to get an Atlas Pack. Feel free to connect with me @atlaspacks on Instagram if you have any questions. Thanks, Allan
AtlasPacks thank you for making packs that are worth the investment! I have a ton of non photography packs and this will be my first official purchase into the photography backpack industry
I was literally looking for this kind of info 2 weeks ago. Atlas looks like my perfect solution. Thank you.
Great review of the bags, own the Anja, those cinch straps on my tripod come loose frequently, end up having to put a knot to secure.
One other advantage about the removable ICUs, Airports and small planes where they require you to check the bag because it won't fit, you can pop out that ICU every time and carry all your valuable gear on to the plane.
Appreciate it Ben! Yep in that situation having a removable ICU would be clutch, but it's never actually happened to me personally. Now that I said that I'm sure it'll happen on my next flight😬
Removable ICU’s would also be useful for different camera / lens combinations. I do both landscape and wildlife with different cameras and lens combination and having them in an ICU that you can just swap over would be great. Probable need a larger bag than 40l though.
There it is! Really great video. I think for me personally the perfect bag would be a mix from the atlas and shimoda.
From a design and colour style I personally like the shimoda a little bit better. What I really like (only can speak from the videos as I cannot get my hands on so easily here in Germany) is the built in ICU with the origami style.That you can fit A TON of non camera gear in it (in a different video I've seen that the material is super stretchy). I also think the laptop sleeve is really great compared to the shimoda (Imagine you're out in shitty weather and you open the bag and your laptop gets flooded?!).
Functionality of the atlas with the design of the shimoda would be MY bag I'd say :)
I was surprised how much a difference the ICU being built into the pack adds to the overall feel and sturdiness of the pack and the origami core is a great addition as well - very creative!
@@MarkDenneyPhoto :). Have you run with the Athlete yet? Take the frame out, cinch in the load lifters and let me know what you think...
AtlasPacks I haven’t yet, but now that you mentioned it I’ll give it a go!
Mark Denney have you used and competed the shimoda and atlas for let’s say an overnight or two nights trip? Or have you used a bigger bag for that? I’ve found a video on how much the atlas can hold but not really about the shimoda.
@@Kohizzzle Yep, I've used both on a multi-night trip. I've found the Atlas Athlete pack as a better option here as it holds more non-camera related items than the Shimoda 40 does.
Hi Mark!! First, want to say that the video is top job....a very comprehensive and detailed video about all three bags, very well done!. I just need to say somenthing...the score for the Ajna on water carry was 3,5 even having two pockets (zipped, I know...would be awesome if they were mesh ones...but you can fit 2L bottles in there) and "water bladder" inside....and the score for the Shimoda is 4,5 NOT having side pockets and just the water bladder...I simply don't understand :-)
I have the Ajna since March and have to say, it's a good bag. I agree with you, the tripod carry options are almost non-existent (or complicated / not very good ones), and also it's not 100% confortable over long periods of time. Overall, I think it should get at least 24points...
Many thanks Guillermo! My biggest water related gripe with the Ajna bag is that even if you zip a water bottle in the side pockets there is no way to access it without taking the bag off. With the Shimoda, there is just the pocket on the harness system to carry a small water bottle, but it can be easily accessed without taking the entire pack off.
Just found your channel and subscribed.
I've been an avid Fstop bag owner for years (currently have 4 packs), but am open to better options.
I'm not sure if you have mentioned it or tried it, but hands down my favorite way to carry a tripod is with the Fstop tripod bag. It straps on, conceals and protects the tripod, weights very little, and quick & easy to slip the tripod in or out. I hate strapping tripod naked to the pack. I almost always have a tripod bag on each side. The 2nd one is either empty, or a great place to stow extra jacket, macro paraphernalia, or other extra gear. Would carry a sleeping bag or other light bulky stuff very well, too.
To each his own, but Mark, I would never carry a laptop in that back panel of the Shimoda or any other pack. Way too much pressure and twisting potential to stress out a laptop not designed for that kind of stress.
Hi Mark, Thanks for posting this video. I had been looking forward to seeing this kind of comparison.
I am thinking of ordering the Atlas athlete pack but there a few things on which I would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks
1 - ICU dividers: The dividers are chunky and seem to protect the gear very well but they take a lot of space and do not have 90 degree angles. This is fine if you store lenses and camera body separately but not if you want to store the camera with lens attached. All setups I’ve seen online do look pretty messy and not very efficient in terms of space usage.
2 - Thin profile: I love the fact that it can compress and have a really thin profile when the pack isn’t full. This is mostly due to the shallow ICU but at 5.25” of depth, it doesn’t leave much room to store gear vertically. Can it store a DJI remote vertically or do you need to lay it flat?
3 - Side pockets: I am a water bottle guy and I often carry a water bottle on one side and a tripod on the other side of my backpacks. The side pockets are stretchy and huge which is great for water bottles of all sizes. The material looks a bit loose so does it really hold water bottles firmly? Do the side pockets have some sort of lining on the inside or are they made of simple stretchy material? If the latter, the side pockets will most likely stretch and rip over time.
By the way, there’s another very important criteria... weight! The Atlas athlete seems to be one of the lightest.
Hi Bruno.
Jumping in on your questions.
1) 90 degree dividers actually take up a lot more room and are very inefficient. I know this b/c I make this mistake on an early production run. Everybody complained about the dividers. Now everyone (including Mark loves them). I promise, they are excellent and will spoon your glass unlike anything you have ever used before.
2) The DJI remove will not stand up vertically. I personally do not keep mine in the camera core. I prefer to keep in in the brain. If you are looking to store in the camera core I highly recommend getting the plastic guard for the joysticks.
3) The side pocket material is highly stretchy and will do an excellent job holding and securing water bottles up to 32oz in size. There is actually a short clip in Mark's video that shows this. Of note, Mark did not push his bottle all the way down, it's riding pretty high in the vid ;-). Regarding the material, it is not at all loose. The fabric is highly resistant to wear and tear and just like all parts of the pack, fully covered by a lifetime warranty. You can expect many many years of excellent service from your Atlas Pack.
PS: The Athlete weights 3.6lbs.
Cheers and thanks,
Allan
Hi Allan,
Good to see you taking the time to step in and answer my questions.
I may put an order through over the weekend because I kind of need to have it in my hands and use it before I can fully comment.
In the meantime, here are a few comments on your comments as well as some initial feedback/perception, when comparing it with other backpacks I’ve used.
Dividers: I have no doubts that they will hug the gear but looking at your Instagram, I can’t find a single setup/layout that doesn’t look messy with dividers overlapping. It looks really clean when the camera and lenses are packed separately but who really does that? I tend to leave a lens mounted on my camera at all times just in case I need to access it and take a photo of something suddenly. Also, I don’t think gear will suffer with slightly thinner dividers such as the ones on the Shimoda or Mindshift backpacks.
Mark says he’s happy with the dividers but every time he shows it, it’s empty so a bit difficult to see if he’s using it as one would do when out and about.
Thin profile/depth: I would rather trade the thickness of the dividers by some extra packing space, like a DJI remote even if packed side ways. Packing the remote in the top compartment or brain as you call it, would require opening another compartment. It is much easier when the remote is packed next to the drone. I can already see myself laying the backpack flat, opening it from the back to take my drone out and then flipping it around to reach the top compartment for the remote. If I forget to zip the back panel, all the gear will go on the floor. By the way, The Mavic air and new mavic 2 remotes have removable sticks so you no longer need the guard.
Side pockets: They look baggy when empty or when the pack is compressed. I think it works fine with large water bottles but I don’t think they will hold a GoPro with grip or a gorilla tripod without tightening the side strap.
I wasn’t aware that the pack had a lifetime warranty but unless you’ve used some sort of alien stretchy material, it will likely rip over time after lugging a tripod up and down.
There are a lot of adventure backpacks out there but none is perfect, including the atlas athlete pack. However, it comes very close to what I am looking for. We’ll see if close enough but here are a few things I would have liked to see:
- Thinner, origami style dividers to pack more gear and more efficiently. Shimoda and peak design use them.
- Slightly deeper ICU or some sort of stretch/expansion when packing slightly longer items such as a DJI remote or that one lens that currently sticks out by just 2cm
- Adjustable side pockets so they don’t flap around when compressed or empty. The mindshift backlight has elastics with an adjuster depending on what you want to pack.
- A dedicated tripod pocket. The stretchy material ripped on all my previous backpacks and it will likely be the same with this one. The new Lowepro Powder 500 has a tripod pocket stored on one of the side pockets and can be packed away when not in use. Tripod sits there very comfortably and the side straps only have to hold it into place rather than supporting the tripod’s weight. This tripod pocket could be packed away in the the water bladder pocket, in a similar way as the pockets available on the hip belt. Alternatively, an internally lined side pocket would make it more durable. Perhaps even a hard bottom to allow anyone to carry a tripod with spikes.
- An adjustable and removable top compartment so the pack can be used without it or when overpacking the non camera gear compartment. By being adjustable, it would be possible to make the backpack longer and pack a lot more stuff. The new Lowepro Powder 500 has it too.
- Less loud logos. As is, it looks like a sponsored article which the owner actually paid for so I would definitely remove some logos or at least reduce their side.
For those who are interested in the Lowepro Powder 500, it’s a great backpack but the quality of the materials used is questionable. The zippers and zipped holders are flimsy and my backpack had several line stitches sticking out. It’s also not height adjustable so it’s pretty much one size fits all.
Regards,
Bruno
@@bguerre1ro Hey Bruno. Each of my packs serves a specific purpose with design language based on each use-case. The packs are by no means perfect. We are still a very young and new brand. Everything and anything can be better. Anything on the packs can be changed. I am not a backpack designer and not stuck on any one feature of function.
My only commitment is to making the packs better and this will only happen by challenging the conventional systems and offering users something that functions differently from what they are use to. Atlas Packs do not function like other camera bags. They are designed to make you work and think differently. As an example of this, the Athlete Pack only has 10 liters of space for camera gear vs. the 30-35 liters allocated to camera storage in the other bags.
If all you need is a bag to hold camera gear, I suggest buying a camera bag. If you want to bring camera gear and personal items get an Atlas Pack.
Thanks,
Allan
@@AtlasPacks Allan, congrats to you guys with your Atlas packs. They sound phenomenal, and once my Sukha bites the dust (which doesn't look to be anytime soon, I'm glad to report), I will absolutely consider one. I love their apparent flexibility and utility, and the overall design philosophy.
Todd A'Harrah thx you :)
While you were going over the Atlas, i was drooling and trying to figure out how to get my wife to let me buy it.
I Love it!
Amazing video. Intro was on point. I learned a lot about the bags and the atlas bag looks more and more promising for my future needs.
Thanks Bryce! Really appreciate it man - glad to hear the video was helpful!
Hi Bruce. Feel free to connect with me @atlaspacks on Instagram as need be. Thank you. Allan
Can highly recommend the atlas pack, I've had it since the summer and it's been on a few big trips and it's been amazing.
Thanks for doing this! I was leaning towards the Shimoda or the Atlas Athlete. Guess Atlas it is! I like the non camera cary option.
Justin Warren Glad to do it Justin! Appreciate ya watching it man👍
Great video mark. I spent many an hour looking at bags. ended up with the shimoda 60. Almost went for the atlas, but felt the icu was to narrow and import to uk was a hassle. Maybe one day i can have all three 👍👍😊😊
Thanks Chris! Glad you think so. Yes, having all three would be the perfect scenario for sure!
Another great video and just love the intro/B-roll that you have up front! Your presentations are thoughtful and clear, a pleasure to listen to you. I tried the Atlas Athlete, which has all the features I'm looking for (water bottle holder, room for non-camera gear, and comfort). Alas, it won't fit a full DSLR and the Adventure is too large and too heavy, if only the Athlete were a teeny tad deeper. BTW, I thought you were an extra 0.5 points lenient on the Shimoda for water carry.
Recycle Retirement Awesome! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video. Yep, a full size dslr in the Athlete is a bit tricky.
I really hope they don't make the Athlete deeper. I have gone mirrorless and like the idea of camera storage that is a bit more snug. My Sony gear tends to knock around in my Shimoda. Now if Atlas were to introduce an additional Athlete or similar bag with a deeper camera storage area that would be find. Maybe an Athlete X. But I would be disappointed if they made everything for the larger bodies. Lots of people going mirrorless to the smaller size and that applies to camera bags.
Dan Higgins I agree, Atlas should not make the Athlete deeper. There should be bags for mirrorless cameras. It's hard, if not impossible, to find the "just right" bag. I've finally given up and gone with an Osprey backpack for comfort and space for jackets, etc.
This video was exactly what I needed to help me make a purchase decision. Great rating categories and the score totals screen was very helpful. Great job!
Jim Irby Thanks Jim! Happy to hear the video was helpful. Which pack did ya go with?
Hey Jim. How’s the pack. Do you know about our Ambassador Challenge Series. Send me a DM on Instagram @atlaspacks and I’ll get u an invite. Thx Allan :)
Thank you for your review. I am particularly interested in the Atlas bag as it seems to have the most flexibility but I have owned the F-Stop Ajna and Lotus bags for a few years now. There are two points I don't completely agree with your review on the F-Stop bag. I noticed that the ICU you have in the Ajna is pretty big and is deep, when compared to the other two bags. If you swap this out for one of the shallow ICU's then the bag can carry much more non camera gear. . Second, I think you are judging the Ajna much more harshly for water carry then the Shimoda. It appears to me that they have the same options for water carry and therefore should have been scored more closely. Thank you for taking the time to compare the bags.
Dominic Uliano My pleasure and thanks for watching it! When it comes to water carry the biggest difference to me between the Ajna and Shimoda is that the Shimoda does have an option to access water without having to remove the pack where the Ajna doesn’t - this was really the basis of my score.
I have been using Shimoda Explore for the past 3+ years extensively for traveling aroand shoot. Hands down the best bag out here. 🔥
I love that the Shimoda has side access but I wish it was a door rather than just a zipper. I don't think I'd use it as is. A side door would work really well with the integrated compartment in the Atlas. Maybe Allan will include it in the Athlete v2. :-)
Hey Mark! Great video, and super review! I currently sport the LowePro ProTactic 450 and have been searching for a bag with more carry options. Atlas looks like a winner. Glad to support your channel👍🏻 Merry Christmas🎄
Christine Kenyon Thanks so much Christine! The Atlas Athlete and Shimoda 40 are my two favorites right now - really can’t wrong with either one👍 Always appreciate your support and I hope you have a very Merry Christmas🎄❄️
Fstop Ajna 40L Pack disagreements: 1. How much internal space for non-photo gear depends on which ICU you chose. I chose the medium and have plenty of spare space. 2. I carry my tripod on the back and it works perfectly for me with no flopping about and it's easily accessible. 3. There is provision for a water bladder but I carry a zig bottle in one of the side pockets, my preference. 4. Possibly the most comfortable backpack even on long walks.
Great video. Just subscribed. I've had the Fstop Ajna for about 3 years and the shortcomings you mentioned were all pet peeves of mine. Been researching the Shimodo but never heard of the Atlas. As I hike quite a bit I will definitely put it into consideration.
Great video and editing that intro Mark. I'm in the process of deciding I think on the Atlas Adventure but your reviews and my chats with Allan at Atlas both been very helpful. Also this is a nice distraction from the crazy politics currently here in England !! (Hey but you're used to that over there !! )
Nigel Morley Thanks Nigel! Glad you enjoyed it and glad to hear it took your mind of politics as well😂 I certainly know the feeling!
Hi Nigel. I agree. Mark did an amazing job on the video all around. Thanks for your interest in my packs and saying hello :-). Allan.
If you like touring skiing, and to take you camera with you the Atlas its perfect. I think you can care your skis on the side, and it will fit also survival equipment. For me the Atlas will be my next backpack.
that intro has got you 1 more sub, epic! :) great video!
Thanks so much Neil! Very much appreciated!
Interesting Review on all bags, specially if You are on a tight budget and being able to buy only one...
I think there is only one important point missing on the evaluation and that is ENVIRONMENT HOLDING capability, like heavy rain, water splashing, heavy wet fog etc... would have been great to see it as an important point to look in a camera bag. Anyway it´s been very well covered most of the important issues on a camera bag/backpack... Sincerely: Juan Molina
I just stumbled across your space. And all I can say is I am glad I did. I have been looking for a bag like that atlas for months. And I thought all that was available was stuff like lowepro. I must not have been asking or searching correct criteria. I am an avid backpacker/day hiker and my daughters are getting into photography and video and they can also use the bag. Now to see if I can carry a bivy and some other items to make it an overnight or weekend pack. Thanks for the reviews
Anthony James Thanks for stopping by Anthony! Glad to hear the video helped with your buying decision👍
Thanks Anthony. Let me know if you need an assist or just want to say hi. Best to DM @atlaspacks on instagram. Thx Allan :)
Nothing like a little Kodo drumming to kick-start an excellent video!
Even though you mentioned comfort in the straps on the SHIMODA it may prove to be a hindrance to we women with more to carry in front ...so to speak...would have to try one on to make a full assessment..thank you for posting this and the time taken...much appreciated.
isabella davis Glad to do it Isabella!
I’ll probably end up selling my Ajna bag and getting the Shimoda. I like the Atlas pack but I don’t like the color options and I personally don’t like how big Atlas put their name on the pack. You’re basically a walking billboard for them 😂😂
Austin Wiley Let me know if you’re going to purchase the Shimoda and I’ll send you a discount code👍
Austin - talk to me about your Atlas pack, I might be interested.
Justin Vaughn I already got rid of it thanks tho.
@@Outdoor.pixels Sorry, I meant Anja! Still have that one? Color?
Justin Vaughn yeah in the green color text me if you’re interested 256-762-0707
Thanks for the great review! These high-end camera backpacks sure look very attractive! Shimoda is having a Kickstarter campaign for their new Action X backpacks which also has removable waist belt. They look nice, but I still like Atlas Athlete's drawstring opening and expandability/compactability... My ideal camera backpack would be Atlas Athlete pack (without the big logo) + Shimoda shoulder straps + Lowepro Flipside Trek's ability to open the camera compartment fully/half-way without taking the bag off (some sort of modification to the lumbar support/waist belt base).
Happy you did this one Mark!
C Thirteen Photography Sure thing! I probably had more fun making this one than any previous vid👏
Great reviews and help differentiating these packs. I have no experience with any, but like the functionality presented. Outstanding!
Michael True Thanks Michael! Glad ya think so!
Mark, the new Shimoda 30 is now shipping, would love to see a review on the new but smaller pack compares. Major difference : Removable waist belt on the new 30. However I am interested seeing a comparison in comfort and capacity vs.the 40L.
Scott Katzenoff Hey Scott! Not sure if I’ll be doing a review on then 30L, but it is a potential option just not sure there’s enough difference between the 30 and 40 to justify a stand-alone video on it. I would like to give the 30l a try though🤔
Mark, this is a great review and most helpful. I have owned an Ajna (just sold it) but switched to the Shimoda 40L which I find far more comfortable. That said, I have the same thoughts on the Shimoda that you have. I wish there were pockets for water bottles - real water bottles. I which the waist belt were removable (though I believe they may now offer a removable waistbelt but I may be wrong on that - mine is not.) I wish the straps on the Shimoda were a bit less wide and cluttered so that I could more easily use my Peak Design Capture attachments. I wish they had not provided a side access zipper on one side as I find it not that functional and that side could have been used for something else (like utility pockets such as the Athlete has.) I wish I could get a shallower ICU as I moved to mirrorless and my Sony gear tends to knock around in the ICU. Though I don't and won't backpack with this bag or travel with it, I do appreciate having a bit more storage for non-camera gear. (I would be happier with 20L but I could deal with what the Athlete offers.) One thing that I prefer with the Shimoda and in fact the primary selling point for me is the adjustable attachment points for the harness. The Athlete comes in 2 sizes but the Shimoda has 4 different attachment points for the straps which allows you to dial in the fit which makes a big difference if you are, like me, relying on the waist belt for supporting as much weight as possible. Mark, since you have both do you have an idea how the torso measurements compare between the Athlete and the Shimoda? I have my Shimoda set to Medium (though could use Large). Which Athlete size would most closely match that. I also prefer the cleaner look of the Shimoda and they way you can conceal the excess strap material. But if I can be assured that the Athlete would fit (and that I won't regret buying it when they come out with an improved model a month later ;-) then I would get one.
Dan Higgins Hey Dan! Happy New Year and thanks for the comment! I know Atlas offers different sizes for the waist belt - if you reach out to Allan at Atlas he’d be more than willing to help you out with any questions you have - super nice guy👍
Hey, Mark. Happy New Year to you as well. The Athlete is ordered. (We'll see how good they are at delivering over the holidays. ;-) I did exchange thoughts with Allan. He recommended the taller size and an appropriate waist belt - at least to start with. Once the Athlete gets here I'll load it up with my gear and compare it to my Shimoda. I'll also need to figure out a way to deal with the Athlete's "strap-aggedon"! Sheez there are a lot of long straps.
Dan Higgins Lol strap-agedon! Exactly lots and lots of straps. Outside of that its just about perfect! Enjoy the new pack Dan👍
I really appreciate the detail you included on each of these bags. Thank you for a great video.
sassy tbc My pleasure - thanks for watching!
That intro🔥 SO SO GOOD!!
Many thanks!
Excellent review. I like the comparison categories! Answered many of questions in mind. Will push the button on the Shimoda soon. Thanks man!
What about waterproof/resistance? I marvel that this is rarely considered an important feature of a bag designed for carying very expensive camera gear.
PG Tips I think when you get to these types of packs water resistance is kind of an expected thing.
@@MarkDenneyPhoto You would think but remarkably it's not. Most camera backpacks give you a waterproof cover but they never show it on with a tripod attached? Funny that.
FYI the Lowepro Protactic 450 AW II is another 40l bag with a removable waist strap. Looks great too
Thanks for that - I didn't realize that it also had a removable waist belt! That's a huge benefit in a 40L pack IMO - not so much in a 60L+ bag, but crucial in 40L and below. Thanks for watchin Shak!
Mark Denney yeah definitely removable belt and a great compact design. Only couple of downsides for me: it looks like a typical camera bag, doesn’t have a outdoor backpack look to it ; and there’s very little room for non camera gear, the interior is pretty much all dedicated to camera gear
Shak Naim Yes - those are two of the main reasons I haven’t pursued this bag - although I’ve heard great things about it from others.
Thank you for this review. It helped me a lot to make a decision after months of reviewing and testing bags. I decided to go with the Atlas Pack because it also completes my hiking necessities. Adam (the founder) helped me buying the right size for me.
Erika Velázquez Glad to do it and happy to hear it was helpful👍
Mark Denney thank you! See you in the next video. 🙂
Thx for the support Erika. Hope you are enjoying your pack :)
AtlasPacks Thanks for your help!
AtlasPacks Thanks for your help!
Love it mate👍🏻 I brought a lowepro whistler 450 a while back. But love your review vids
PhotoNinja Thank ya man! Very much appreciate that.
Love your videos, Mark! There's a new kid on the block. The WANDRD PRVKE. I'm hearing good things. Hope to see you review it.
I was looking at the PRVKE yesterday at my local camera store. It seems very well made. I like the side access. I like roll-top bags but why the precise heck did WANDRD put Velcro on theirs? Do they just like to hear that ripping sound everywhere they go?
@@darylnd You're a step ahead of me. I haven't seen one in person yet.
Great video Mark. I’ve really loved your bag reviews, and I’ve been wanting to pick-up an Atlas Pack since you first reviewed it. However, I’m looking for an all-around solution for my travel needs. I need a solution that can carry all my gear when I travel AND be used when I get there, rather than using another bag. It doesn’t look like the Athlete Pack is the right size for me (usually bring a lot of lenses); although, it would be the perfect size once I do get to my destination. I’m looking at the Adventure bag, you first reviewed, to carry all my gear when I travel. Do you think the Adventure pack is too big to carry around at my destinations? I don’t want to look like a mountaineer walking around town or into a coffee shop. Thanks.
Peter Song Thanks so much Peter! Glad you enjoy the videos. The Adventure pack is a large bag but like the Athlete pack it can be tightened down to accommodate a smaller load thus keeping the overall size down as well for when your at your location. How many lenses and bodies do you normally travel with?
Mark Denney Hey Mark, thanks for the quick response. I usually have my 2 Sony bodies with about 5-6 lenses. For Sony mirrorless it sounds doable but most of my lenses are GMs (24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 16-35 2.8, 24 1.4, etc.). Since I do a lot of different things when I travel (landscape, street, video), it's tough to slim down before I go, but I usually don't walk around with all that when I get there.
Hey Peter, I love this question. Thanks for asking!
One of the things I like to talk to customers about is my experiences using the packs and your question is one of my top talking points. I personally prefer the Athlete over the Adventure for exactly your reasoning. You will look like a mountaineer with the Adventure ;-). If the destinations is a rural / 3rd world, a ski resort, or a far off land like Iceland where big gear is part of the experience, the Adventure Pack is best. For most domestic travel and 1st world cities in EU/UK/Asia, the Athlete Pack is a much better tool for the job. You will feel much more comfortable with the Athlete Pack at a local coffee shop, bar/restaurant. Having a smaller footprint is best in small streets, crowded subways and busy airports. And one of the main reasons why we made the belts on all our packs removable. One of my favorite features and something Mark really likes as well.
**Are you sure all your gear will not fit in the Athlete? Send me a DM @atlaspacks on instagram so we can get into the details of your kit.
Cheers and thanks.
Allan
@@AtlasPacks - Hi Allan, Wow...direct response from Atlas Packs. Thank you. I'll DM you soon. I had a nice laugh when you confirmed that I "will look like a mountaineer with the Adventure"...made me so happy to have this conversation.
Peter Song :). Sounds great. Look forward to hearing from you. Thx Allan
Very nice tnx; I've been eyeballing these 3 bags for a long time (my favourite being the Atlas Athlete) and I was looking for a side-by-side comparison and I think your videos hits all the right points ; so a big thank you. I have been debating though if I should go for the Adventure; Athlete's big brother because I only occasionally need more space. More space is necessary when doing international travel so you want to max on the gear you carry in the cabin and then when you reach your destination leave any unnecessary staff (e.g. battery chargers, back up drives, flash, laptop) at your hotel and only carry the staff necessary for each outing. So if you have the bigger brother or can get it in for a review I would love a comparison between the two Atlas packs. I suppose if you have a 400 f/2.8 upwards then it has to be the Adventure. But when you do not carry long glass in it how small can you get the Adventure to be? Plus it is three kilos so even if you are able to hinge the Adventure down to the size of the Athlete you'll be carrying an extra kilo around for no reason (which is roughly the equivalent of carrying an extra body, a spare cammera battery and a few filters). I would buy both but then I already have 2 other backpacks and several other camera bags so I've been sitting on the fence (to avoid the Mrs sending me to the doghouse:-))
Enjoying your videos. How do you carry camera gear for multiple day backpacking trips - with tent, sleeping bag, etc?
Hey Mark, Great video as always... just one little bitty comment. This is actually about the f-stop bag and waterbottles... there are a lot of different style waterbottles available these days. I would encourage people to explore options beyond the nontraditional round shapes bottles. There are much more space efficient designs out there (IMO) that work with the ajna or similar shaped low profile pockets. - Regards Ian
Shimoda Designs Hi Ian, agree but isn’t a durable stretchy pocket a universal solution that works for most case scenarios?
Slightly off-topic and perhaps controversial but do the Shimoda mirrorless ICU dividers fit in the Atlas Athlete?
I really like your backpacks but struggle with the colour options as well as the missing side water bottle pocket. The tripod carry pocket seems to do its job but it isn’t a super clean design.
I am currently more inclined towards the Atlas, especially due to the thin profile and even if way too loud logos, slightly better colour options.
@@bguerre1ro Hey Bruno, stretch pockets work for some - but some they do not. IMO based on my experience & R&D - Jersey gets abused by tripods that develop sharp edges or suffer from rock abrasion, as well as skis/boards do a number on them and they also tend to fill with snow (ofcourse that doesn't mean that happens to everyone). Anyhow, I personally think it is perfectly fine there are a growing amount of options for photographers. There are so many different styles of photography and photographers and the way each person gets from point A to B... 'adventure' is a very broad field where very few people go about it the same way with the same gear (at least from my experience). Options are good for everyone... - Ian
Thanks Ian! It was definitely a fun video to make. That's a great point, the days of the cylindrical hard shell water bottle as the only option are long gone. I think you were the one that originally turned me on to the flexible water bottle solution which I use in the shoulder harness pocket of your pack - which works well.
Shimoda Designs Thanks for your comment. I understand that stretch pockets do not work for everyone. Especially considering their durability issues... What if the side pocket was replaceable? I appreciate the experience and r&d that you’ve invested into the design but I currently have no solution to hold a water bottle other than hooking it to the backpack.
The definition of adventure backpack may actually be the issue here. If you’ve designed it to be worn by extreme people, who will be carrying skis and all sorts of extreme stuff, I get it. However, you’ve omitted that one pocket that “normal” people need to hold their water bottle, beer or whatever other item they want.
I would have purchased the Shimoda explore 40 should it have a side pocket, and perhaps also a different colour. The thing is I am one of those “normal” people who kind of have time to stop and drink from a bottle. Therefore, I’ll have to go with the Atlas pack and perhaps buy one of your ICU’s so I can replace the dividers of the Atlas with yours - I still think that your dividers are better than the chunky ones on the Atlas.
Shimoda Designs Thanks for your comment. I understand that stretch pockets do not work for everyone. Especially considering their durability issues but what if the side pocket was replaceable? I appreciate the experience and r&d that you’ve invested into the design but I currently have no solution to hold a water bottle other than hooking it to the backpack.
The definition of adventure backpack may actually be the issue here. If you’ve designed it to be worn by extreme people, who will be carrying skis and all sorts of extreme stuff, I get it. However, that one pocket that “normal” people need to hold their water bottle, beer or whatever other item they want is missing.
I would have probably purchased the Shimoda explore 40 should it had a side pocket, and perhaps also a different colour. The thing is I am one of those “normal” people who kind of have time to stop and drink from a bottle so the Atlas pack is a better fit. However, I’ll probably buy one of your ICU’s so I can replace the dividers of the Atlas with yours - I still think that your dividers are a better design.
Looks like it’s time to purchase a black atlas from amazon. Thanks for the great review!!!!
Finally. Thanks Mark
You bet Bruno! I hope it was worth the wait!
Yes the intro was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
crushhitting Thanks man👊
Interesting. I wish you had reviewed/compared the Shimoda Action (top loader) instead. Also, why only 4.5 for the tripod carry on the Shimoda. Thanks for this review. Super helpful - even 4 years later.
It seems that atlas fits me better(I have many none photography equipments too). But here in China atlas is much more expensive (140 us dollars or more) than the other two, so I think I would go for the Shimoda.
Mark, interesting video and I was curious why you didn’t include the bags from ThinkTank/Mindshift with similar sizing ?
Would love to have seen the Mindshift Rotation 180 in here as well!
If Atlas allowed you to purchase two versions one with removable ICU and one with it in permanently, it would click a lot more folks boxes. Also the wider strap of the Shimoda is slick for the comfort factor .. I personally like the fact you can shrink the size of the Atlas when your not taking nothing more than your camera gear on a days outing rather than an overnight or longer. A little less branding on the Atlas would be helpful, but I understand the manufactures train of thought there.... Thanks for the comparison Mark.
I tend to like the larger branding on this bag. It gives the bag a sporty look.
Thanks! This was super helpful!
Very nice comparison and incredibly helpful. Thanks for pulling it together. I just ordered the Atlas. Wish I'd had it for my recent trip to Iceland. Looks perfect for my needs. I was very frustrated with the LowePro packs; they don't seem to get it.
Ron Carroll Glad to do it Ron! Happy to hear it was helpful!
What lowepro did you have that you didn't like? I've been looking at the protactic and whistler.
Great editing! Thanks for this video, helped me determine which new bag I should get....Shimoda won.
My Atlas Athlete bag should be arriving this morning. I hope it lives up to all the hype.
Regarding the colours of the Atlas pack, I don't particularly like either the black or the yellow but as I do a heap of cycling I concluded that the yellow will help me be more visible when riding on the road.
Sean B Yep! That’s a good point - the yellow will certainly keep ya standing out that’s for sure👍
Let us know what your thoughts are? I am kind of ok with the colours. Black for stealth and yellow for here I am and for photos where you are standing in your shot. The logo is where I am struggling... that huge logo on the front, on the back, on the straps. It feels a bit like a sponsorship.
Great review! Thank you very much! I wonder if you have ever tried or considered Lowepro Whistler 450 AW version one and what are your thoughts on it. I have been using it for two years now. I did choose it because of the possibility to carry also other things, not only a camera. When buying it I was struggling a lot to find anything which works both for hiking and camera gear. It seems that the situation is has improved a lot since then. About the removable insert, I find it very convenient that I can remove it with all my camera gear still inside of it and put it into a roller when needed. This makes travelling with camera gear on the plane a lot easier. My solution is working for me now, but I do constantly look if there is anything better on the market. Newest version of the Whistler doesn't have this removable insert so I am a bit disappointed with it. Once again thank you for the video! I just wanted to add my thoughts.
Thanks for the review Mark.
I saw the complete video on UA-cam on my TV. Excellent video. I would definitely like to go for Atlas, but the bag is pretty expensive. Perhaps it is worth an investment though.
Seriously loved this! I am getting ready to buy an RV and travel the US backpacking long distances so this review was super important because my relatively cheaper lowpro bags just dont do enough. Thank you! #liked and #subbed lol
Hey Mark... After a couple of years now, how do you feel the Atlas bag stands up to the field? I've been eye-balling it for a couple of months. Thanks! Great comparison video.
I also own an Ajna. The zipppers have began to rust. Sigh
Thanks for making this video! It is very informative.
This Atlas bag seems awesome, but I would miss a bit the access on the side. The Shimodas X series has came out, in 3 sizes (30, 50 and 70 liters). I just wonder which would could compare to the Atlas Athlete to put non camera gears in? It seems the 40 you show has not alot of non camera space compared to the Atlas, is that true? So perhaps the Shimoda X50 would compare to the Athlete in terms of non camera space. Would you like to answer this one?
Being very generous by giving the Shimoda a 4.5 mark for not having a water-bottle pouch
So I’m looking at atlas adventure bag. I’ honestly liked this one the most based on your video feedback.
I have to ask a taboo question: where is the product fabricated?
I see they are based in the US and warehouse is in US, but do they outsource for manufacturing?
Want to make sure that price is reflective of the TLC put in the manufacturing process :)
Thank you’
Haaa made it into the Video 😂 super exciting for this !!!!!
Twice !
Kohizzzle Haha!!! Yep😀👍
Dope intro of the backpacks.
Peter Makholm Thanks man! I’m no Peter McKinnon, but I’m pretty happy with the way it turned out, but my god did it take me forever🤣
We are who we are and create in our own creative way. Great job.
Great review. Your review of the Atlas from several weeks ago got me to buy the Athlete (speaking with Alan, the owner, also helped). While I wasn't able to try the Athlete, I was able to try the other two at my LCS. They are great bags, but I would agree with you that the Athlete has a little more to offer when it comes to the personal items space.
C&J Studios Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed the review!
C&J Studios. Thanks for all the support. It makes me really happy that you are loving your Atlas Pack. Cheers, Allan
Hi Mark, got 2 questions. How do you do at the airports when passing security? do you have to remove all your gear and refill it? Is it allowed as hand luggage? are these bags waterproof?
Ashwin Ramnawaj I’ve only been asked to remove gear once I believe but most of the time it’s never requested. Yep their water resistant not 100% waterproof but resistant
F-Stop Loka looks like a better bag to compare
Atlas--Removable waist belt is cool
Mark, I know its not as big as you would like but did you every look at the 30L version? Can't really find to much info on it. I guess the water bottle holder is the biggest issue I am finding with more bags than I thought. I am wanting a smaller bag that only needs to hold 2-3 lenses only with a a7Riii. The 40L seem just a little too big but I like being able to select a smaller camera ICU than the Atlas comes with. Any recommendations?
Good video. That said, style is so subjective, person to person, that it is probably not worth considering. On the other hand, I am very interested to know your thoughts about durability. While you prefaced the bulk of the video with a comment that all three bags were built to a high standard, looking at the bags, I got the feeling that the Shimoda was perhaps a little more rugged than the Atlas in terms of material choice. Would that be a fair observation, or would you say, not so? Another item that concerns me is balance. When packed up with gear, especially a tripod, do you find any victor in that department? I liked the look of the Atlas in that regard. I could imagine using those big side pockets to create balance by moving items around a little. Next, and this is a big one, weight. Unloaded, which bag is lightest, and is there any significant differences between the bags? Otherwise, thank you for a comprehensive look at those three bags. Finally, comes value. How do they compare in terms of price? Do you see one as providing the best bang for the buck, or are they all rather similar in that regard?
Thank you very much for your content man! You have a new sub! :) Btw, since the Atlas stuff isn't available easily (yet) in Europe, I saw that LowePro just released the Powder BP 500 AW. It seems a pretty good competitor. Do you have any plans to try it out?
Ginzo Many thanks for the sub! Super appreciated👍 Not at this time, but it’s possible that might change in the future.
Hi Ginzo. Atlas Packs are available world wide and we offer a refund on the the duties / import fees. 👊🏽👊🏽
@@AtlasPacks This is an awesome thing you do! Will check it out! :)
Actually with the F-stop bag you buy a special accessory to attach a tripod. I've never heard of anybody attaching it like you tried to.
Just go to the F-stop website and you will see their are two options of attachment bags for different sized tripods.
John Strange Thanks John! I haven’t really used that pack in the last year or so - glad to hear they released an accessory for tripod carry👍
Any thoughts on the Gitzo Adventury 30L? I'm looking for a similar bag to the ones you have, but slightly smaller. I really like the Atlas bag you showed, but it's above my budget.
Thanks, Mark! I was hoping one of these recommendations might work for me today, but naturally the links (and probably products) are out of date. Still looking for a 2021 adventure landscape backpack for Iceland!
Have you seen the new Shimoda pack that was just released? ua-cam.com/video/xCinUokir-g/v-deo.html
@@MarkDenneyPhoto Perfect! I’ve seen it now! Thanks! 👍
@@MarkDenneyPhoto I've just heard back from Ian at Shimoda who can only say I "should" receive the Explorer V2 in early September but can't guarantee it. What a shame! With my luck, it'll arrive the week of the 12th, so my search continues for a bag I can get my hands on and work with in advance of the trip.
You say that the Atlas is the only bag that you know that got removable waist belt; but the Shimoda action bags got it to? Right?
Well done.
You didn’t mention anything as far as water/rain resistant. Are they? Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the Review. About the Atlas Athlete Pack. Why did you get the Large version apposed to the Medium version? Does the Frame size make that much of a Difference? Thank you.
2 years later do you think there is any more competitor that we can add here ? Except shimoda x30