Why Kakegurui is a Terrible Gambling Anime
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2017
- It's the most popular anime of Summer 2017, but next to incredible gambling anime like Kaiji... Kakegurui kinda sucks!
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“No ones going to throw their life away for a hundred bucks.” Bruh have you met a real gambling addict.
Exactly!!! Someone had to say it
they probably aren’t a gambling addict then but rather just very unstable
I’ve met loads of gambling addicts and not one of them would throw there life away for $100 sure they’d throw away $100 for $100 but none of them are stupid enough to bet there life on $100
Oh please, If you are totally an addict you're willing to bet your life.
Dafuq Poop considering your name would you know though?
"Gore free": A chracter stabs out their own eye.
It was light all things compared to other gambling anime
itsuki bites her own fucking nails off lmao
Orgasmic-like actions
@@ryotabinkhorn9695 almost getting shot, rape and tazing isn't gore unless you make it gory but from what I saw it wasn't gore or even close to gore.
Also a character ripped off her own fingers nails 😅
"Yumeko never loses" She lost to Yuriko in the third episode. "She can get out of any situation because she's rich" There are people at the academy who are way richer than her. She ran out of money to bet against Kaede, had to ask Itsuki to lend her more, then Itsuki ran out of money to bet, too. Kaede had more money than the two of them so Itsuki had to literally bet her life in order to match him. "Being a housepet isn't so bad, they will just get bullied a little and have to marry some rich guy" Housepets are literally slaves. Life plans are slavery. They have their entire lives planned out for them in a way that will ultimately benefit the council, and if they can't pay their debts before they graduate, they permanently lose all control over their own lives. What good is "being rich" if you have no freedom? "There are no real stakes because Yumeko doesn't even care what happens to her" But Mary and Itsuki care, as do other characters. Yumeko may be the main protagonist but the focus isn't really what happens to her, it's how her actions affect everyone else. Mary and Itsuki are both proud, ambitious people who, unlike Yumeko, have goals and care about their own status and how much money they have. Both of them also end up being Yumeko's allies so her losing would be bad for them. Mary teamed up with Yumeko to win the two card indian poker game and get rid of her housepet status. Itsuki relies on Yumeko overthrowing Kirari and putting Itsuki back on the council. Yumeko doesn't have much to lose but her friends do. "Yumeko can't lose games in which the loser dies because she is the main character" Kaiji can't either, for the same reason, yet you don't seem to have a problem with that. "Half of the characters in Kaiji were killed off" Ah, yes, all those important characters who we'd known for two entire episodes. They were so important that we even got to know the names of two or three of those guys. And then they died. Much sad. "There is no real gore or characters getting hurt in Kakegurui" Itsuki ripped out her nails and Midari lost her eye. Sure, it doesn't matter much in the long term, but neither does Kaiji losing his ear and fingers and having them reattached by the beginning of the second season. His cool badass scars don't impact the plot any more than Itsuki's bandages or Midari's eyepatch impact the plot of Kakegurui.
You seem like one of those people who compare everything they watch to their favourite show and complain when it does something different. It's like you want Kakegurui to be Kaiji just because they are both about gambling even though, aside from that similarity, the story and themes have nothing in common.
You really wrote a whole three page essay
FACTS and I read it all of it.
Ikr bruh
why is this comment so satisfying-
literally so right
This should've been titled "why I like kaiji more than kakegurui"
Yes
FR he doesn't even mention other gambling anime that are good
@@aygulmemet4201
Akagi is great too. Only issue is that you need to know Mahjong to get the full feel
i think Akagi vs Kakegurui would be a more fair comparison, Kaiji is actually at risk, neither Akagi nor Yumeko are at genuine risk in their animes (i have not read Ten yet, i'm only talking about anime/manga chapters 1-108 Akagi), the difference is Akagi makes it clear im the first episode, the first things we know about him are that he survived driving directly off a cliff and in his first Japanese Mahjong game he wins without even knowing any Yaku (winning hands) and only having recieved a brief explanation of the general structure of the gameplay, FKMT never made it look like he was at any real risk, he instead made it interesting by making him defeat his foes in unique ways (like how he discards the one tile he knew Urabe would think he wouldnt discard, or how he made the officer headbump Washizu out of a Yakuman), in Kakegurui you sometimes get instances of this (you know Mary and Suzui have to win because Yumeko cant die, the interesting part about Zero Sum Ming was the way mary used logic and Suzui's trust to figure out their opponent's hands) but most of the time you get stuff like the finger cutting game, where she only wins because her opponent is an idiot, honestly, you could have her remain OP and have the show be entertaining, just introduce her as a broken character, and make her explanations behind her victories more interesting
What do u expect-
Fun fact
Gambling is illegal in japan
Edit: Tysm for the likes and the replies💕💕
Well that's why theres bribery money and false image
Ram Ablir Yes and no. MOST forms of gambling are banned. The only exception is betting on sports, particularly football, horse racing, and a few motorsports.
If 100 bussinessman makes something illegal that is legal (that students parents were crazyly rich)
What about Pachinko machines
jeb bryant I just explained that. MOST forms of gambling are illegal. Mostly games that actively are competition that the gamblers have an active hand in playing. This includes poker, blackjack, etc.
Yumeko doesn’t care about winning or losing she simply plays for the rush. That’s why she hates cheating. Cheating just determines the winner and it’s not coincidence anymore.
Ok but you still can win if the other is cheating
MemerMan tm Only if you see through that your opponent is cheating and beat him with his own weapons
@@sugoiguy2048 like she does time and time again
She doesn’t hate it she finds it more interesting she hates if there’s no fun
but if she doesn't care about winning or losing what rush is there for her to experience
A man talking about Yumeko basically being a slave and having to marry a rich guy chosen by the student council as not that bad of a life is so funny to me.
Honestly yeah
@@cyra8908 yeah
Oh no, she's forced into a marriage that has no prenuptial agreement which means she can divorce him whenever she wants and will be able to add 1/2 his wealth to her infinite money pile.
In real life? Yeah, pretty fucked up. In a fantasy setting where the stakes can literally be anything? Pretty mild.
@Un-heimlich lol, if i remember right Mary was going to be forced to have a child with the old man, if it was me i would rather be decapited with a kitchen knife than doing that
When watching something like Kaiji, the question is “WILL he win?” With Kakegurui, it’s “HOW will she win.” I think that’s why Kakegurui can get away with the stakes seeming pointless to Yumeko. They’re both gambling shows, but the reason they’re enjoyable is different.
Oh? MB = Hbomberguy-Fan?
Well, should have known that, just from knowing their Styles and their vocal opinion on ‚Dont F things up. Just dont’ and ‚Dont look down on youre Fans’.
I wonder how many ignored the Watch-Suggest MB gave here.
Bruh then that makes Kakegurui plain shounen. Stakes are pointless and her winning or escaping is guaranteed then it's just another shounen with a Plot Armoured MC
@@truly_evil we know she’s going to win dumbass but she doesn’t win all the Time and also we want to know how she won,how she beat her opponent,the strategies,what she teaches her opponent and vice versa,plus if yumeko ever got hurt,as long as she gets thrilled she doesn’t give a damn.
@@truly_evil but it is a shounen… it doesn’t have to be something completely new to be good. Even if the plot is “basic”, if the show pulls it off well then it’s fine.
@@agirl3593 the awnser is so simple , kakegurui is show for teenage kids while kaiji is oriented to a more mature audiance , go to your father and try to show him both shows and you'll understand what i say
i can't stop laughing at how all of the comments are dissing this dude
yeah they are retarded, they just say they like it, while ignoring what the anime is aiming at...
@@Burago2k actually no, they're giving their opinions on why they like the anime, and are justifying it thoroughly. Just because you see someone say "I like this anime" doesn't mean that they are retarded. They like the anime. So what.
I know that this seems like over reacting, and to a certain point it is, but it just kind of annoys me when people call others retarded with no real justification for such claims.
some people just say "i'm already pissed at the title"
@@luvlyllulu I agree lol. Calling someone retarded for that little is pretty much like pointing at the mirror.
@@luvlyllulu
Kakegurui is trash fuckwit. Kaiji is much better.
The thing is Yumeko would risk everything for nothing, it is just a part of her character..
Edit: This is most amount of discord I have caused in a single comment >:D
But only because she is rich
@@drei2751 Yes we need a third season
@soco She was able to pay in any moment
@KyosPlayz -Roblox & Minecraft She could pay in any moment she is rich
I demand a new season
My Aunt almost threw their entire life savings in the shitter just to fund her gambling addiction. It took my uncle almost 2 years just to pay off her gambling debts.
But if she could have just won? Its not the rush the addiction is from that one thought.
Me: sees comment about your aunt almost ruining your uncle's life because of her horrible addiction
Me: ...
Me: ...
Me: hits like
I feel like he is just comparing kakegurui to kaiji most of the time. Since kaiji is one of his favorite animes, he is just frustrated that kakegurui is not like kaiji, when they are both polar opposites to each other. Overall this is a very biast argument and it is rather a comparison of two anime’s rather than saying why one is terrible.
Read the title it says kakegurui is bad as a Gambling anime not as an anime itself meaning he's comparing about the gambling stuff not the actual anime plot itself
They not are pollar opposites.
@@fingersinyourass9527 the comment you are responding to doesn't contradict that
@@eldonhill4840 'overall this is a very biast argument and it is rather a comparison of two anime’s rather than saying why one is terrible' he kinda does though, by ending his point with 'why one is terrible' shows he was talking about the anime as a whole and not the gambling aspect.
@@ryacalico7648 read the first sentence of the description before you complain, do it
Here’s the thing, “no one through their life away for a hundred bucks”. Have you ever met a REAL gambling addict my friend?
@「Catch the Rainbow」 「Blackmore」 LMFAO DUDE YOUR DELUSIONAL. Kakeguri is a great anime. Great characters, great plot, and great voice acting.
@「Catch the Rainbow」 「Blackmore」 lul
「Catch the Rainbow」 「Blackmore」 your opinion. So fuck off
You stole this comment
@@jojomilflover69 Hes spitting facts dude
Bro, no gore? Someone had their eye got shot, someone's nail went bye bye and someone has basically punched themselves until their foreheads bleeds and properly caused a concussion. And a little bullied? Bro their harassed, beaten, abused and absolutely scared for life, not only having their life planned they might be marrying a murderer.
I also don’t understand y extreme gore is necessary, it takes place in a high school
But is "free gore", it has no sense to be THERE, is just to make the scenario more dangerous that it really is (for the Untouchable look of the protagonist) and make it seem more mature
RipMudafuka69 MLG well yh, but ppl keep going on ab realism, n realistically a child would go home fucked up n their parents would report the schl, n if an anime ab gambling has to rely on gore n cheap thrills to keep the viewer entertained then they’re doing a bad job. I can understand rape n stuff bc that is smn that could potentially happen, n is smn that a child prbly wouldn’t want to tell ppl ab, as well as bullying which happens at schls anyway, but extreme gore has no place there, n it’s not like there isn’t ANY gore anyways
That’s really nothing compared to Kaiji thou
Yes I agree there is definitely gore but not just somebody’s nail went bai bai in the show ( I forgot her name ) showed like a display case of nails that remember she prys off of people’s hands!
The problem with this is despite of them being on the same "Gambling" genre. Can't really compare them both because they have their uniqueness and appeal on it's own and why it works.
Yep. Kakegurui appeals more to general audiences, whereas Kaiji has it's own unique style that very few shows have come to emulate
@@XavielUA-cam Agree , finally the comment i was looking for.
Their not throwing their lives away for “$100” their doing it for the rush you get when you gamble
so basically nothing
Buy a motorcycle or join a fighting gym or do literally anything else. They have options the characters in kaiji like real gamblers dont do it for the thrill its the risk vs reward and the battle inbetween is just the path to get there. Once you leave the table nothing during the game mattered. Learn that or your not a gambler.
@@JC-ft7zs yes of course, since the beginning yumeko entered the school just to gamble and enjoy the thrill of gambling, that's why unlike other people she always looks horrible smiling when playing games with big stakes,
@@stupotgorilla Who asked
@@stupotgorilla You would not like Usogui
“Bullied a little and be forced to marry a rich person”
Ok right off the bat; its not bullied “a little”... we literally see people being abused and molested after becoming pets after losing everything they owned. It ranges from simple slanders to literally losing limbs/organs. In fact if you watched the new season; you watch how they actually gamble whether they fucking DIE.
You’re allowed to criticize but make sure actually watched the show dude
Also "it doesn't matter if they have to marry a rich person, they are still well off" line...urgh. Talk about ignoring all the implications, including getting raped by your husband in order to produce the heirs said husband wants. This might be an even worse stake than losing some fingers.
Also when he said most of them have parents... first of all I’m pretty sure they live at the school so their parents can exactly take care of them, second of all Yumeko (I’m pretty sure) doesn’t have any parents just a sister.
@@pennyobailey Youre 100% correct. Most high school settings have students living on campus, (so we can assume the likely answer is that so do the students here-- plus they spend so many after hours on campus anyway) and both of Yumekos parents are dead, and her sister is in a mental hospital.
Kamil S
I don’t exactly want to share my opinion on this, but I do want to point out... that that’s a bit harsh. It’s fine that your sharing your opinion and all, but please try to be more respectful when you do... thank you.
@Kamil S if that's what you want then just fucking watch hentai
Video: Kakegurui is good, but not because of the gambling. The gambling is subpar.
Comments: No, you're wrong! Kakegurui is good, but not because of the gambling!
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Rule34 It Might be just been the way he was talking. He made the story sound like total trash when it's actually one of the better animes of 2017, and a fantastic read. He didn't do a great job of projecting his opinion which is why I think some people are getting pissed off. If he's made it clear that it was a great anime/manga but not a great GAMBLING anime/manga, or a gambling anime/manga at all, it likely would've been better received.
Maddy J. Fair point. With more tact, his message would've gone over better. Still thought it was a semi solid video, and it's funny no one's really contradicting him. He just didn't approach it right.
Rule34 I think the title had a bit to do with it too. He should change it to Why Kakegurui IS NOT a Gambling Anime
Apparently nuance does matter
I don't think you've read all the comments. x.x clearly people have said the gambling is good and it's just exaggerated to suit the extreme personalities of the characters.
Guys I decided to watch Kaiji to see the truth. Believe me or not but it’s an actual masterpiece god damn it’s stressful in all the ways I wanted and didn’t lol.
Oh wow a praised anime and the most highly regarded in the gambling genre is actually a masterpiece ? Holy shit I can't believe you dude
@@Onche518 You act like you've never heard of contrarians on the internet.
Las personas de estos comentarios deberian ver kaiji, y veran lo horrible que es kakegurui a comparación de kaiji
@@jesuszeppelin4954 *Comparado* a Kaiji, no necesariamente malo en sí
IMO kaiji>Kakegurui
Why am I not surprised that from the point of view of this man, getting arranged marriage with a person who can and will control your life in every aspect is not scary enough
I dont think he thought of the concept as “not scary”. It’s the way the show executed it he has a problem with
Watch the vedio kakeguri is not a good gambling anime its just mediocre at best whereas kaiji gives off the feeling that there are real stakes which make it exciting.
In comparison with Kaiji it isn't. In season 1 Kaiji losing meant that he will die. In season 2, that he will become a literal slave.
@@nanamikento37 *video
Him being a man isn’t really relevant, it just seems like he thought of scary in the sense of pain and losing limbs rather than the terror of being owned or it’s that he’s comparing the fear of losing body parts to being a slave but rich
I liked Kakegurui, the art style, the whole gambling theme. It was great and can't wait for the newer seasons.
GioVanni as long as the hot anime girls have big titties it doesn’t matter to me
The characters are really interesting thats the main reason I enjoy the show so much
@@soundsoul4796 🤣🤣🤣
Probably because of fan service just like sao
@@soundsoul4796 people like you are what's wrong with the anime fandom
I think having a life plan is a huge punishment. Being rich and married is not the ultimate goal for women and I think it’s empowering that the characters of kakegurui (especially Mary) won’t except a controlled life. They want to be free.
no they just want to control others
I think describing it as controlled is an understatement. Let's call the life plans what they are: slavery. Every aspect of their life is controlled and owned by another person. And those contracts are bought, sold, and gambled.
Having your life planned like that is like saying you can have everything except what you want and you can feel any emotion as long as it is not happiness
@Eesa Taylor yeah and what about it.
@Eesa Taylor that was such a bad joke that i took it seriously.
kakegurui wasn’t about winning, it was about how we win. “yumeko never cared about winning”, yes, that is the entire point. she is literally insane and doesn’t have any remorse for driving others insane with her to forward her gambling addiction. we know she’ll win in the end, but that’s not why it’s entertaining. she has no remorse, no mercy, and thats why she continuously takes crazy risks every time with no real fear in what will happen, and it’s entertaining because she’s not scared at all, and it drives other characters just as crazy as she already is. she’s intelligent beyond anyone in the series expectations and that’s why it’s exciting to see how she’ll win.
I am a bit late, but as an addict of gambling manga I have reached a point were I can solve most of those I read with ease.
Kakegurui and Kakegurui twin so far were at best stopping me from getting rusty.
Its not about how Yumeko feels or loses, its about how the viewer and other characters feel or lose.
She's supposed to be a total batshit crazy gambling addict that is surprisingly smart, and the show just shows what that does to those who are part of her journey.
I just like the way they cheat and how she still beats them
also I its nice to learn about other gambling games other than blackjack or poker
Kaiji is all about going against all odds, beating cheats with grit and/or your own cheats. There is also no blackjack arc, and only one poker arc which isn't just straight poker and has a variation of the rules (and for the record the poker arc is the best arc in the series).
@@simplesight_ same thing with kake
@@BabyOkki100 Well isn't that fantastic. I was simply talking about kaiji here, and going against this person's blind assumptions about it. The comment was not trying to explain why one was better than the other :)
Only yumeko is interesting, all side characters are boring.
@@FrozenAXL i like kirari as well but i like yumeko more for some reason
Simple: Kaiji is a show about using gambling in order to evade from realistic problems. Kakegurui is a show showcasing personalities ADDICTED to gambling. Not the same thing. Still, each have their own attractions and are separate shows. I like both.
Did you even watch the show? The whole beauty of Kaiji is the fact that even though Kaiji had some heroic shonen moments where he talks about friendship and trust and bravery, at the end of the day he's a gambling junkie. An addiction that cost him his fingers and to lose a huge amount of money he had won, plus threw him into literal hell, from which he had to go through unbelievable lengths to get out of.
And at the end of that he manages to lose the little scrapes he had left again on a goddamn Pachinko machine.
Sorry but not sorry that your feelings got hurt that the video criticizes your beloved anime but it's right. Don't even compare Kaiji to this unrealistic exaggerated almost hentai/whorehouse looking anime
@@TheManInThe5uitdumbass you didn't even read his comment well. He addressed all your points before u made them. Get off kaijis fucking nutsack
@@TheManInThe5uit dude he didnt say kaiji wasnt about being addicted to anime he just stated the differences between the two
Kakegurui English name is compulsive gambler.
ParmesanCheese it’s really sad how 20 people liked ur comment when u didn’t even read his.
I thought Whole point of Kakagurui was that the main character doesn’t care about the money. It was about the rush she gets no matter if she wins or lose.
Didn’t at one point the main character actually gets sexually excited to the point of organism whenever she plays.
That’s the whole point. It’s the fact that she doesn’t care if she could even die. That’s what makes the anime so good for me
I feel like 99% of the comments didn’t watch kaiji.
(Also this guy legit said the show was still good idk why everyone is screaming)
I haven't either but it seems intense and fun from what mother's basement said
@@debbiek3469 it's probably my favorite anime of all time. Highly recommend if you like think you'll like a depressing yet oddly optimistic show. Also, avoid spoilers like the plague
@@kreatona4219 I'll take your word for it
It seems a bit intense for me haha
cuz the point of Kakegurui isn't gambling, its not a gambling anime. they do gamble, but that's just the journey and what introduces us to these characters and how gambling makes them crazy.
so, why compare an actual gambling anime like Kaiji to Kakegurui?
Having seen NGNL, Kaiji, and i'm up to date in both the Kakegurui manga and anime. I completely disagree. Kakegurui isn't trying to be Kaiji. It's taking the gambling anime formula and turning it on it's head. There is no underpowered protagonist with extremely high stakes working to pay off his debt and live a good life. It's about filthy rich people with huge egos being crushed and ruined. It's about characters that are bat shit insane who cheat to make their living, and fall due to their arrogance. So no, it's not a good "Gambling" anime in the traditional sense. It's something completely different with gambling as a central theme.
BlackstarHalo4 Yeah you're right but he is talking about how bad it executes gambling. He didn't necessary said that that was the whole premise
Did he say that the show was trying to be Kaiji? I thought his point was that the gambling wasn't interesting because there are no stakes. He even says that the things outside the gambling is good
Instead there are a bunch of bitchy yandere high school girls who have fits over gambling and are scared of losing because they might be bullied by fellow classmates, they aren't even making a living from gambling since as you already said yourself, they're filthy rich. It's a terrible anime.
Amin You really hate Kakegurui don't you?
Akagi and One Outs already did the, "There is no underpowered protagonist with extremely high stakes working to pay off his debt and live a good life. It's about filthy rich people with huge egos being crushed and ruined. It's about characters that are bat shit insane who cheat to make their living, and fall due to their arrogance," thing, and they did it so much fucking better.
Honestly kakegurui was pretty amazing. It seemed to be more chasing a thrill and taking a risk as opposed to traditional gambling. Plus I liked the idea of doubting the sanity of your main character.
There doesn't seem to be any risk to it though.
@@nathanaelwaters2509 what? are you watching the same anime as I am? the risks are slavery both financial and physical, the loser having their entire future broken and decided for, and in same cases maiming and death.
@@YukoValis ya but if the main character is so smart that she wins the gamble before it even starts then what is there to be scared of. There is no steaks because they will never follow through on any of there bets
@@nathanaelwaters2509 a lot could be said of any anime. The "hero" faces a loss or two, but rises back up to kick ass. It feels a bit unique here since Yumeko can't really be considered a hero. Kinda reminds me of the first few episodes of paranoia agent where the fix for others life is a knock across the head.
Kaiji is much better dumbfuck
sometimes i feel like you didn’t actually watch this anime. or just hardly paid attention
How did yumeko change from the beginning to the end of the anime or manga.
i think you missed the point of the video
@@thepants1450 his video was literally just comparing Kaigi and kakegurui nonstop, and watering down kakegurui
@@thepants1450 the point of the video was to talk about why kakegurui is bad... how did they "miss the point"?
Whats wrong with people in comment section??!!
Everyone here are blind?! Title of the video is "Why kakegurui is Terrible GAMBLING anime" not "Kakegurui is terrible ANIME". Comparisons to Kaiji are just to show examples of how gamble anime works at all.
People are ignorant
They're stupid
Dude the anime is about gambling literally every episode they gamble the show is unique with interesting story and characters and obviously the main character will win cuz it's a basic thing in anime calling us stupid and retarded is just stupid of you if you don't like the anime then YOU stop screaming
@@coldhaixx1905 Doesn't change the fact that kakegurui is still a terrible gambling anime that has predictable outcomes
I feel like half the comments/dislikes just saw the title, clicked the video, and didn’t even bother understanding the points MB made.
I know that we all knew Yumeko was going to win, it was a given. But we didnt care, we wanted to know HOW she won, HOW they cheated. You know, the best parts of the episodes.
Yea
I mean YES I do like seeing that but when u so it every single gamble, I think it's perfectly valid for people to criticism that kind of writing... Kaiji does a great job showing different types of gambles and setting them up in unique ways where the formula for kakegurui is pretty clear. There's nothing wrong with that tho because I do like it a lot but I do believe Kaiji is better as a psychological and gambling anime
Yeah but that life and death game threw me off tho..
@@OoooAoo same LMAO
YES
Guys Guys... We all know the best anime gambling scene is the D'arby battle from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure...
I second that
That was pretty fun.
GOO-DUH
im gonna speedwagon your jojo
YES YES YES YES
i love kakegurui but i don't want to watch it in front of my parents lmao
Omg me too I honestly get embarrassed watching anime like this I feel...idk xd
@@dreamybombstudios724 Yeah, me too😂😂
Who would watch in front of your parents
@@falisaashley9533 me because we only have one tv ;-; i literally woke up at 4 am to watch it. i also stayed up until 1-2 to even watch it. my parents would drop kick me if they saw me watching it
Only anime’s I like I’m not allowed to watch- my pfp is even runa
The best thing in this anime is Mary’s baka.
@b u b b l e t e a what is it then?
@b u b b l e t e a I disagree cause I hate Kakegurui, the only thing I like is Mary’s baka. Plus it’s my opinion and an opinion can’t be false.
@b u b b l e t e a I did watch it, but then ended up hating it after watching it.
@b u b b l e t e a and the reason I hate it so much is because of how predictable it is, and how boring Kakegurui xx is. Also not only that but it’s extremely overrated. The frustration was okay, but you need more than good frustration to make anything good. The only thing that was perfect in this anime is Mary’s baka.
Agreed
What the title says: “Why Kakeguri Is A Terrible Gambling Anime”
What people seem to be seeing: “Why Kakeguri is a Terrible Anime”
Edit: one year later and people are still commenting to insult me over my nonexistent opinion on an anime I have neither watched nor ever cared about. Y’all are wilding lmao
Moe Lewis *tbh I almost flipped but then i was like “meh” and moved on I still think it’s really good and deserves this right amount of attention*
Reading has always been hard for some. There's a reason it's called blind rage.
@@Frost-E Sadly, most kids those days are functional illiterates and only see what they want to see.
splitting some very fine hairs there
"Kakegurui kinda sucks"
14:58 sums it up best. We know she doesn't lose the high stakes gambles, it could've been a good gambling show if she can actually lose.
I really liked kakeguri. It was very entertaining for me. Sure, the end of the game was quite predictable, but you never knew how each move would play out.
Ik, smtimes it’s not ab the ending, but how u get there.
The guy said kakegurui is entertaining. He just dont like the glambling plot.
Yea. Someone said something that I really agreed with. They said " just because something is a bit predictable doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable"
Show was pretty good, I give it about an 8/10
It's cool but I had a really hard time trying to understand how the games work :(
Kakegurui fans commenting 'did you actually watch the anime' but like, did you actually watch the video?
The comparison to Sherlock is spot on. There's nothing wrong with liking Kakegurui or Sherlock, but they're terrible examples of the genre's people purport them to be. For Kakegurui, gambling isn't the real focus and is just the avenue for the anime to show off cute anime girls and high-school drama, just like Sherlock uses detective work as an avenue for... Benedict Cumberbatch being cool/an asshole. Another example is House MD, which I personally enjoy, but I'm not gonna pretend the show's focus is the medicine when House is never wrong, the stakes are always pretty low, and he always manages to find a solution in some convoluted way that, 99% of the time, the viewer had no way of knowing.
Well if we like the anime what's the problem leave us alone
@@coldhaixx1905 no
@@altogrape5647 shut up
@@coldhaixx1905what u call not leaving ppl alone is actually known as an opinion /argument my g.
@@mexicandannyphantom2668 did I ask you?
Hey guys. He said *GAMBLING* anime.
He's not dissing YOU, or what you like.
Just bring attention to another anime that he believes does the GENRE better.
Kaiji rules
“He believes does the genre better”
If he BELEIVES that kaiji does it better he should’ve written in the title that it’s his opinion not just simply saying that it’s a bad gambling anime.
@@murtaza6425 Looks like you are just mad because some random dude on the internet said he doesn't like something you like.
@@murtaza6425 hey you kinda have a point. Maybe he should have just made a Kaijii recommendation video instead.
He literally tried to water down any stakes like being a house pet or having a life plan.
House pets are abused daily, with one episode showing that after Yumeko became one, she was going to be sexually assaulted, he boiled it down to “being bullied a little”
Life plans controlling who you marry and your whole life direction if you can’t pay back your debt became “just marrying some rich guy”, as if being married to a rich person somehow changes the fact that you’d be a slave with no freedom or control over your future
@@murtaza6425 Calling anything "terrible" should imply some sort of subjectivity, as art quality is subjective.
Gotta admit, you make some good points.
However, kakegurui isn’t tunnel visioned into only the gambling aspect of the anime, it also involves the personalities of the characters, i found myself cheering on the antagonists as the character development progressed. Slowly Yumeko doesn’t become the main character of the story anymore, Kakegurui takes careful care in developing the intentions of each person that gambles against Yumeko. Instead of solely focusing on the risks they take i suggest viewing how each character’s personality changes after a gamble.
I'm sorry but that's not how the main character works, I mean not that it doesn't work in theory but that as you say for Yumeko like that, it's like OPM season 2, I just wanted to see the joker. I personally never cared for other characters other than Yumeko, herself, despite the development that you mentioned.
Man137 really? I had the opposite reaction. I like Yumeko she was interesting but nothing too unordinary. I end up getting more sucked in to Ryota who can’t gamble at all, the only reason he and Itsuki are still ‘alive’ is because of her, and they all are very invested because of themselves. I thought Yumeko was the least interesting character. Itsuki was defeated and taught a lesson, before coming back to risk her entire life on Yumeko, and Ryota was still alive because of Yumeko donating to him, and because of this, Ryota will do anything to help. Mary was interesting with her relationship with the plot, at first I thought she was just gonna be generic first episode villain but she evolved into an ally, kinda like kakyoin.
@@silko4042 except for ryota none of the characters had real Development, just a response for the acts of the protagonist, and even the "Development" of ryota is really low and bad executed
julian david vel Is ryota that Brown Haired Guy? Sometimes i kinda forget that hes in the show
This video talks about why it doesn't the gambling aspect is bad, not the entire anime lmao
"I raise it to my mother's soul"
-Jotaro gambling
Robin That scene was the entire reason I watched Kakegurui. I had like just finished jojo, saw kakegurui and read the desc, hoping to feel the gambling stakes and oh my god for sit boo
Don’t forget the legend himself AVDOL
GO AHEAD MR. JOESTUUUR !!
@@silko4042 kaiji is the best gambling anime hands down makes kakegurui looks like a kids show
In JoJo we have a lot of Gamblers characters:
the D'Arby Brothers of Osiris and Atum
Ken Oyanagi of Boy II Man
Miraschon of Marilyn Manson the Debt Collector
And in JoJoLion
Araki wrote very good gambling battles
2:44 I WAS SITTING IN THE DARK WITH EARPHONES IN AND THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS BEHIND I'M SCARRED
hey, u just found this video and decided to take a stroll through the comments? well sit tight and grab some popcorn (or something to snack on) cause it's very entertaining
Lol same here. Tbh I literally started watching Kakegurui just for one character I thought was cool. The comments are fantastic though.
There are interesting stakes in Kakegurui, however, I think you're making that assessment from the wrong perspective. The stakes aren't from Yumeko's perspective, but rather everyone else depending on her.
Yumeko may not care about her stakes very much, but Ryouta, who is hanging onto her coattails does.
Itsuki, who's very dignity, livelihood, family name, and the like is at stake if Yumeko fails.
Mary, who's pride and sense of self relies on Yumeko being successful.
We care if Yumeko wins, A, because she's more morally superior than the rest of the cast that she's facing, and B, because of everyone around riding on her winning or losing. Yumeko doesn't care if she wins or not, but that's okay, because her good friends with life or death stakes really do care.
The anime and the manga aren't even about Yumeko, so much as the people she effects.
Exactly!
Centipede Princess but caring wether or not she wins isn’t really the point tho it’s the fact that we know who’s going to win from the moment the games start that is the problem, it’s not interesting because she’s portrayed as a omnipotent goddess who knows exactly what to do in every situation which is kinda boring. You never get to indulge in the type of emotions she claims to love gambling for brining her because she’s never put in a position that convinces the viewer that losing is a possible and has consequences.
There’s just no real back and forth with yumeko and the other characters at least in yugioh the main characters pretend to be afraid of losing. Even with the exploration of other characters yumeko never really feels like she earned the win. Kaiji is just a better way to tell a gambling story
Did you read the mange series? If yes are they very similar to the anime or are there some differnces or some extra info. I would like to read it but I don't want it to be the same like the anime.
Yumeko doesn't seem to care about winning or losing, which makes is very nervewracking to watch her play.
MeryeMieze kitty I did read it! It's a lot more rich in subtleties when it comes to character and character dynamics. Also, if you want additional kakegurui content, don't watch season 2, just read the manga because they kind of just shit it all out with zero respect for the source.
There's a Mary Sue OC that they put in just for the anime.
And the tower game, which is the best part of the series and highlights the attitude it has towards gambling and it's relationship to the characters, is completely ruined.
But yeah, I'd suggest reading the manga.
If nothing else, read it for the art because boy it's stunning.
The way I see Kakegurui is it's not about the actual stakes of gambling, but instead more about
1. The extreme hierarchy of the housepet system and the student council (mainly)
2. The *insanity*/ grip gambling has on these people
3. The characters' different personalities & motives and how that transfers into their playstyle (which just makes things interesting because during matches you probably learn the most about characters)
Yes, and it's not about the OMG WHAT A PLOT TWIST it's about how Yumeko still beats everyone at their own games and watching people cheat. It's unique, compared to most gambling animes where it's just the game itself. This is why I loved the episode where Mary and Yumeko switched their chip values
i'm a sadist so i like seeing there fear and desperation even when the consequences don't come to fruition
Not to mention that the deck is always rigged and one must make the best of the situation they are given
Rewatch kakegurui and instead of thinking about how it isn’t like kaiji think about the show itself instead
lmao
I think kakegurui is a hit mostly because of how everything about it looks aesthetically pleasing - it’s basically a brand
Agreed.
Yes essentially. Its very marketable
Agree
I suspect Kakegurui is trying to be more about addiction then gambling. If you look at many of the characters they have an addiction to something or other, and gambling is the means of feeding that addiction. Itsuki Sumeragi likes to collect peoples figernails, Jabami Yumeko is addicted to gambling it's self, Midari Ikishima is either an adrenaline junkie or a masochist. The opening of Kakegurui has and over arcing theme of food, and of feeding. This is culminates with a scene of the student counsel seated and a banquet table preparing to feast, while Ryouta is actually on the table with rest of the food. To me this symbolizes the affluent members of the school feeding their addictions and comsuming the less affluent students in the process. Also in the manga there appears to be another faction called the "Hundred Devouring Families" another reference to feeding and consuming. I may be reading to much into this and just trying to rationalize my own theory, and I fully accept the possibility of being wrong. In conclusion you might be correct that Kakegurui is not a good gambling anime but then again maybe it never was trying to be.
Even if it was not trying to be, gambling is one of the tools it uses to support the plot, and if that isn't good then the plot will be lackluster.
ok, cool, but the gambling still sucks compared to others shows.
i want to ask you and pretty much anyone else who's complaining about this video one thing: how many shows that you like, are 100% perfect? with no plotholes, no bad drawings, no stupid mechanics or pretty much anythingyou can think of?
i can guess, that it's probably a ratio of 1/50 at best.
now tell me, why does EVERYONE in this comment section(except those who write under the comments of those who write first it seems) think he called kakegurui a bad anime when he litterally dissed only one aspect of it, and praised pretty much everything else? (in it's... weird own way in the case of the character design)
people should learn that just because you like something, it doesn't make it perfect, like, dude, i love guilty crown among the many, and i'm not dreaming in hell to say that it doesn't have a good amount of problems, yet it seems that these people in the comment section can't even fathom that concept and get angry as fuck if someone says X anime has one particularly bad trait, as if the entire anime depended on that one trait.
well i'll tell you now, if an anime is good only for one big trait, then when you remove that, doesn't the anime become shit?
from what i'm seeing, the one who's calling it crap, though not directly, are the ones complaining about the video not the youtuber himself.
Definitely agree. The whole gambling schtick is just something to set the atmosphere. Both Yumeko and Kirari (student council prez) have "bami" in their last names, and the kanji for that translates to "eater". The manga definitely focuses on the central themes of power and becoming completely lost in your addiction, regardless of the results. It's not supposed to be focused on gambling.
It all depends how integral the tool is to supporting the plot, in Kakegurui you could replace the gambling with say debates and the show would remain largely the same, in that regard I don't think that gambling is an integral part of Kakegurui. Like I said in my original post, Kakegurui isn't really about gambling it's about the characters, who just happen to gamble.
"i want to ask you and pretty much anyone else who's complaining about this video one thing: how many shows that you like, are 100% perfect? with no plotholes, no bad drawings, no stupid mechanics or pretty much anythingyou can think of?"
None. No show is perfect, and I don't believe there will ever be a perfect show. Perfection is to be striven for but never attained.
"now tell me, why does EVERYONE in this comment section(except those who write under the comments of those who write first it seems) think he called kakegurui a bad anime when he litterally dissed only one aspect of it, and praised pretty much everything else? (in it's... weird own way in the case of the character design)"
I can only speak for myself and I did nothing of the sort. I simply tired to point out that Mother's Basement, hereto referred to as MB, may have been judging Kakegurui on improper standards. In the same way that an apple is a terrible orange, Kakegurui is a terrible gambling anime. Apples are not oranges and Kakegurui is not a gambling anime. Do not confuse plot for theme. The themes of Kakegurui is addiction and excess, the plot is that wealthy students attend a school where they gamble.
"people should learn that just because you like something, it doesn't
make it perfect, like, dude, i love guilty crown among the many, and i'm
not dreaming in hell to say that it doesn't have a good amount of
problems, yet it seems that these people in the comment section can't
even fathom that concept and get angry as fuck if someone says X anime has one particularly bad trait, as if the entire anime depended on that one trait. well i'll tell you now, if an anime is good only for one big trait, then when you remove that, doesn't the anime become shit?
from what i'm seeing, the one who's calling it crap, though not
directly, are the ones complaining about the video not the youtuber
himself."
This largely seems to be a diatribe against other commenters and does not seem to apply to me, did my original comment seem angry to you? I can not speak for other people so you will have to ask them to get answers to your questions. The purpose of my original post was to point out to MB that Kakegurui is not a gambling anime, and that judging it as such might be unfair. Gambling isn't even a genre really, gambling is a plot device. Even Kaiji isn't a gambling anime, it's about survival and what the main character is willing to endure to survive, gambling is just a plot device the writer uses to challenge the protagonist. Kaiji could be about duels and be largely unchanged.
I feel like Kakegurui is like No Game No Life, you always know the mc is going to win, it just interesting to see how
Dude Kaiji looses all the time
True
Greg Beigel actually Mc lost a few times in this anime. I think she won one more time than she lost
Preach, like I've been saying, stop comparing, just have fun, even if kakegurui IS the worst, who else got the facial expressions like that though
That's how I see a lot of shows, I don't care about stakes, I just want to see what happens. But I think that his problem with it is that when you watch something about gambling you expect it to actually feel like gambling, so where you can lose and it matters. I think that's his definition of a gambling sub-genre
Kaiji is a frickin masterpiece !!! 🤯
Depends on what you prefer kaji could be everything or nothing
@@murtaza6425 yeah, if you prefer "waifu material" over character dramma, thriller, and interesting plot, then yeah, kaiji is kinda bad in that regard.
@@AoiHeartStranger Haha true sadly majority of modern anime fans are in it for animation and waifus
@@AoiHeartStranger lmk how many people you've convinced to give Kaiji a chance by shitting on Kakegurui
Gore free? A girl stabbed her eye, and in another episode another girl ripped her nails out, i think this is kinda invalid.
that, in terms of gore is really pathetic (plus they never really show anything)
I fell in love with this anime after episode 1
Edit: OK, I actually didn't. I only liked it because at that moment I was obsessed with watching something with gambling. Anime itself is 7/10 for me.
Yep that fan service be lovely lmao
NeneusLP they’re teens chill
@@roseemilk8599 so am i lmao
NeneusLP just making sure no one in this comment section catches a case yknow 😳
@Otaku Power Director-chan
I hope you finished it now....
If not, u are going to miss an amazing show.
Oh dear lord, don't come down here. This comments section is worse than most...
Me: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH
* Scrolls down *
Me:....
Me: ....Sweet baby Jesus.
Blizzic I really should have listened
Me too.
stone17000 what was so bad?
Your comment doesn't really help cause my curousity made me scroll down anyway...
Liking Kaiji shouldn't make kakeguri lesser, they both play to their strengths, that's why I love them both.
Yeah honestly idk why people compare these two anime. They are both different in their own ways like Kaiji is more on the person's life and struggle while Kakegurui is more on how the characters are able to defeat the opponents and beat their cheats.
Since no one else will say it, I will...
If you like a show, like the show. No one on UA-cam, or anywhere for that matter, should make you feel bad for liking it or make you stop watching it because they don't like it.
They have a right to their opinion, of course, but not over your interests.
A random anonymous guy once told me some great writing wisdom.
"Never try to write a character that's smarter than yourself. It'll only make you look like more of an idiot."
But if you can have all the smart stuff off of the screen then you can get away with more.
Of course you can write characters smarter than yourself. What you can't do is make them *much* smarter.
But at the end of the day, someone 10-15 IQ points higher than you isn't randomly fathoming the unfathomable in ways you could never envision. They're just better and sharper at thinking on their feet and figuring stuff out in contexts where you could've done just as well if only you had more time.
And time is exactly what you have as a writer. What your character needs to resolve in a scene worth of 30 virtual minutes, you have a week or two to plan out. That's like googling the entire field of science you need in the middle of an exam, or freezing time in a rap battle to deconstruct your opponent's bars and go through his entire history three times before coming up with your own punchline.
This is the entire reason why top athletes for mental sports (strategy esports, chess, poker etc) are coachable. Not because the coaches have something of value for the athlete by being smarter than the athlete, but because they have something of value for the athlete by putting in the arduous hours of vod reviews, probability analysis and stat breakdowns. Same with a writer's plot brainstorming and how realistic his smart protagonist seems.
I disagree. I doubt most Batman writers have an IQ in the 190s range. Same for people who have made characters such as Jimmy Neutron, Dexter whether it is from the show Dexter or Dexrer's laboratory. Dan Harmon isn't nearly as smart as Rick. You just have to be creative with the ideas you use to display their mental feats or research the topic they are smart in.
@@kannakamui2334 The difference between characters like Batman and Rick and characters like Yumeko Jabami is that the latter has to show her intelligence purely through her actions and dialogue while the former partially do it that way but also partially do it by being "shown their work". In other words, we are proven that Batman and Rick are 190+ IQ by being shown the technology they create and the social positions they were able to acquire over time, which is a neat writer's trick, but it doesn't work for all types of stories.
@@tudornaconecinii3609 hey dummy. Incorporating all of these these things with time to plan is easily feasible, and you can show a characters intelligence through their interior works AS WELL AS dialogue and plots
Rick and Morty Rick has an iq that cant be compared to anyone
I liked Kakegurui .-.
Tsuchiyomi same. Don't let others tell you otherwise. Ik since I like sao, I get a lot of hate
TheVanished One sao sucks
Joseph Joestar
Correction, SAO is a mediocre anime that got to much attention. Bad writing, wasted concept due to a terrible author.
Youre what wrong with anime today
TheVanished One sao is alright except for alfeinhim
Bruh, People here saying "He isn't right and Kakegurui is a good anime". Look at the fricking Title. It says: "Why Kakegurui is a Terrible Gambling Anime". GAMBLING. It is a good anime, but not in Gambling. There Kaiji easily wins.
What do you expect? Kaiji is rated R, while Kakegurumi is rated PG-13. Of course shounen boys would love it.
Okay, but I still like Kakeguri.
Youre what wrong with anime today
@@xzenitramx666 You're what's wrong with humanity and their pitiful inability to accept that your own opinion is not the right opinion because there is no "right" opinion. Fuck all the way off
Can I recommend you to watch Kaiji? It's so underrated and it's better than Kakegurui (is not a opinion)I don't hate Kakegurui After watched Kaiji I'm glad to found Kakegurui to enjoy another show with the same plot... however are not in the same level and I tried to found some really especial ...it's not a bad anime I enjoyed it
@@Lee-Roy_LeRoi_LeRoy just be sure to turn down the volume...The girls are very,very,very organis-mic?
@@xzenitramx666 SPELL IT BITCH BOY
After having finally watched Kakegurui, I must say that it's actually a very interesting psychological anime that has very little to do with actual gambling. I won't spoil any details here, but the main character not caring about losing is kind of the point. I especially love how the antagonists and side characters are developed in often unforeseen ways. The ending is also really good, imho.
Oh? MB = Hbomberguy-Fan?
Well, should have known that, just from knowing their Styles and their vocal opinion on ‚Dont F things up. Just dont’ and ‚Dont look down on youre Fans’.
Did she lose?
@@bayas1302 Nah, she'd win.
This is prob not that funny now that lobotomy kaisen has been overdone.
Virgin Gambler (Kakegurui) vs The Chad Survivor (Kaiji)
Kaiji much better indeed.
I think I instantly fell in love with this anime because of how insane Yumeko is, the depth of each character, and the high stakes of losing at this school. And the opening is good as well.
👏
SAME I love the insane side
exactly!! Her crazy, risky personality is what drew me in so much!
I'm just confused on why they LET MIDARI HAVE A GUN(I haven't watched the anime yet, but I've seen some of the clips and scenes)
Periot
I haven’t even watched the Anime yet, and I feel like this guy just doesn’t like Kakegurui cause it’s another version of his favorite one lol. Idk
Is the anime you haven't watch is kakegurui or kaiji?
He raises good points tbh but I never felt like Kakegurui was meant to be a True Gambling Anime™️ It always felt like a thrilling/suspenseful character driven story. It follows a few characters, one of which is a super rich gambling addict, and takes place in a high school for the elite. But I feel like maybe that’s the point of it, to just follow a character who’s addicted to gambling regardless of what it’ll do to them.
@@monsieuregg7027 it was Kakegurui
@@SebastianSeanCrow I've watched Akagi and Kakegurui and the later is definitely more entertaining. Akagi is an interesting character but Kakegurui really gives you that visceral feeling of giving your life to chance. The end of S2 Ep 3 gave me legit chills and euphoria and I remember feeling like that a lot during season 1 when Yumeko went beast mode
Normie
Kaiji is my favourite gambling anime. He as a character is so realistic and does something that almost none of the protagonists can do: actually lose
Guys, literally 1:21 into the video he explains that the show is good.
The point here is that it doesn't know how to take the most out of gambling. It doesn't try to deeply explore the games and it never convinces you that the protag can be deeply ruined by the gambling, not because of the stakes, but because all the times the protag does lose, it's all fine chapters later or right at the end of the game, you know she's going to be fine. Nearly the whole first season of Kaiji is just suffering and struggle, the author shows you he's not afraid of ruining Kaiji's life for good, especially during an important plot point, and you can feel the struggle during the game through all the exploits and mind games that happen over multiple episodes, he squeezes every game.
wtf papaco n esperava você aqui
@@carinhanice2874 obra de arte tem que ser defendida
@@CanalPapaco verdade
But he also claims it's NOT a gambling anime, which is insanely stupid, and his reasoning is a combination of factually wrong and logically inconsistent. He says that it's a high school comedy, even though it is a DARK comedy, for sure, but also a drama, and also a disturbing look at .... GAMBLING. And it's literally one of the most unique, psychologically brilliant tv shows on the planet.
I disagree, they did a great job at making the stakes feel high. Although I guess its a perspective thing
But it seemed like some games were just lucky wins.
@@user-hc9qv9yb9m I agree, they were, but I think that was the point; she intentionally bets against herself to lose money, taunt the competition and become a pet/dog/whatever, and be able to challenge one of the higher ups. Plus, she is crazy smart and there's some kind of fetish going on with the "betting against the odds" thing.
Lol no they didn't. You're just a moron.
@@ZetruH umm i wouldnt says shes crazy smart ofc shes a genius at math but the other stuff is just there cuz main character shiz she has done things that are almost impossible to know also the shit where we dont no explanation for why she came to the conclusion that her opponent is cheating is retarded she just feels like it and boom you cheated its like that sherlock holmes thing a complete random detail that wasnt there also i hate almost all the characters except one the main guy
@@user-hc9qv9yb9m YO THATS BASICALLY GAMBLING LMAO
Kaiji = BEST.
The Anime Man JOEY?!
It's the man himself !
Yes!
The Anime Man indeed
Lol Didn't expect to see you here
just a reminder to the angry weebs out there foaming because someone said a unpopular opinion about their favorite anime: it's okay, dude. chill out. just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it isn't cool. there's a lot cool trashcans out there too.
Someone said it thankfully
Oh? MB = Hbomberguy-Fan?
Well, should have known that, just from knowing their Styles and their vocal opinion on ‚Dont F things up. Just dont’ and ‚Dont look down on youre Fans’.
I wonder how many ignored the Watch-Suggest MB gave here.
i just clicked on this to see how much dislikes there was
and who asked
cingo Who asked you?
Avid Creator I asked him, But I didn’t ask you either
Its funny to see such who asked chain🤣
to bad it WAS BROKEN
Should be titled “why I prefer kaiji over kakegurui”. Kakegurui is a good anime for different reasons but🤷🏻♀️ + some of the points in this video are just invalid
Aurelie Bellande Yeah I feel like he’s just comparing Kakegurui too Kaiji almost all the time, like instead of giving real reasons why it is a “bad gambling anime” (I actually don’t agree with that but it’s just my opinion) he’s just comparing it with other animes :/. That’s just my opinion no hate.
Kira Yoshida exactly, this would have been a fine video if he’d changed the title and was a little bit less subjective
Kakeguiri is so bad
I mean he's just saying that it's a bad gambling anime and not a bad anime in general. The production and art style is outstanding but in terms of being a gambling anime it doesn't seem to pass.
@@bertthedude9644 yeah it is like I will win because I know you are cheating, and I will caught
Kaiji has threatening situations that can go either way, despite it having more episodes. Almost every gambles conditions of winning and losing doesn't incorporate the possibility of death....meaning that the loss isn't a loss of life...just a loss of something else. He can get bodily harm, debt, etc. Which you feel in the immersion. Cause when he goes through the wringer, YOU feel it too. (Espescially with the amazing animatiom that sets the feeling of pain and fear very real, and anxious provoking) Which allows the story to keep going with high stakes. That's why it keeps you guessing. Cause except for one time, other gambles can actually fuck him over while he still lives and he can win or lose depending on what he figures out ... hell he loses sometimes more often than he wins. And while Kaiji loses and fails a lot, there ARE times where he wins. The story can go either way and it's so unpredictable. That's what makes a good gambling anime- stakes that feel real. Not once in Kakegurui, have I felt a threat. Everything will always be alright. But hey, two different kinds of stories, but "same genres". But I come to Kaiji for anxiety- and Kakegurui for eye candy. In the end, they are both great anime. Let's not attack either of them, outta spite. Both are gone to for different reasons. I prefer the fear within gambling and the anxiety that comes from the unknown. Rather than the eye candy of characters and scenes.
and more importantly do not forget forget the *Zawa Zawa*
I like how kakegurui isn’t really about life threats though and that’s a good thing. It’s a cliche to have situations like that anyways because action stories already do those such things. It doesn’t always have to come to the conclusion of literally killing each other for a goal. I’ve not seen Kaiji before, but I can say that the gambling in Kakegurui is very real. You can say that Yumeko is the “definition” of gambling because in the anime every time she gambles she keeps betting more and more and more; just like how a gambler would do.
Judging from the video and comments, it sounds like Kaiji has a lot of violence. IF you were to compare them, it would seem like Kakegurui is from a psyche perspective of gambling. You can see how crazy every character acts as they gamble their life away the more the gamble as well.
Love that 5 years later even Geoff admits he took kakegurui too seriously and now loves birdie wing which is basically the same except golf instead of gambling
“Sword art online is one of the best gaming anime’s ever.” And other jokes you can tell yourself.
Sword art online was a legendary manga
Boku no Pico is my favourite anime
@@PfeffergrubenNick no just no
I mean it’s a nice Anime but the main thing appealing to the viewer is probably the artwork. The story is ok, pretty average manga story but what makes it different to other Animes of its kind (there are lots of it with the same theme but almost every of them in a style I don’t like) is the more detailed more vividly feeling world. You can dive into the world while watching cause it actually feels like a game and not like an anime, with the only difference that you’re basically watching a stream with lets call it „interesting conditions“
Other Animes don’t give you the feeling of a world which could actually be interactive cause it looks way too much like an anime.
And by that SAO seems like a good anime although it’s storyline is pretty averaging. I also really enjoyed watching SAO ngl, but the thought put into SAO is definitely not on the same level like Kakegurui (which also got a pretty straight story line but there are more thoughts to it).
It's not called a joke, it's called an opinion.
Ok, first of all I can't remember any series evoking a dopamine hole after finishing the available episodes as big as Kakegurui did.
Those were legit signs of withdrawal I experienced for some days and this indicates that the show did something right, almost 'too right'.
It's the kind of series that is appealing in a rather unconventional way which is why I think that you shouldn't shove it inside of a fixed genre, in this case 'gambling anime'. It's kind of comparable to one punch man, but in a slightly more complex way. Knowing that Yumeko is never really in trouble or scared just feels good. You have this completely overpowered character, which might take away tension, but it adds a new entertaining element.
The main focus during the gambling scenes isn't on whether Yumeko will win or lose, it's rather on how she'll figure out how to win, which is the reason why the gambling scenes aren't boring.
Kakegurui's entertaining value isn't built around the gambling scenes, but around the absolutely twisted feel-good atmosphere it creates. And it does that coherently and perfectly which is why this is such a piece of art. The beautiful drawing style ranging from really pretty and cute to borderline horrifying, the fair share or characters who are no less than batshit insane, the fact that there's not really 'good and evil' or a real antagonist, because Kirari and Yumeko are both straight up psychopaths and harmonize so well with each other and the brilliant depiction of those psychopathic tendencies; this is what makes Kakegurui one of the best series I've ever had the privilege to watch and I absolutely can't wait for season 3.
i agree completely i absolutely my sadistic tendencies rear there head and i get a feeling that if i sit down im gonna need a fidget toy like no other or lose my pinkie toe nail seeing as i've pulled it out before when i was super fidgety i did jumping jacks swung my legs i was hype and in such a good mood i felt like i needed to make a character only to do nothing with it for the story, and i did! my overall enjoyment was through the roof
I agree so much! Kakegurui is gonna leave a hole until it comes back. The art being able to switch tones, as well as every character not really being good or evil is amazing. Even pire Ryota is over here, gambling in his own way, and putting all of his life on a sick freak and it’s yes!
It’s almost like he said it’s a bad gambling anime. As in the gambling itself is not good. He didn’t say that the anime itself was bad.
LastSandwich I thought the gambling was pretty cool. The stakes felt real, and I really was invested, even if I knew Yumeko would win.
Silko: 404 what stakes? the show is so predictable
I honestly loved kakegurui, and now that I know that there are more gambling anime I'm gonna watch theme because yes. I love kakegurui because of yumeko. Yes it was predictable, but the crazyness of the characteers and yumeko addiction are just crazy
I know cheating is a thing, but every match in Kakegurui is how the opponent is cheating and how she knows about it. I just wanted to watch some gambling. Save the cheating for special events or a twist. Not the theme of every game.
But that's just the same with kaiji. He always had to figure out their opponent's cheating system, or that match with the guy playing with his own modified dice didn't count? Even kaiji tried to cheat against the old man and failed. And the entire arc of that machine slot on the second season. That machine was arranged and kaiji had to find its own way to hack it. Both, kakegurui and kaiji use cheating for almost everything.
@@seanvolk4383 Been a while since I've seen Kaiji or Akagi. So I might get the two confused, but I'm pretty sure every single game didn't involve cheating.
Cheating aside, Kaiji and Akagi always had something on the line, and they have lost a lot before. Kakegurui supposedly has something on the line, but the main girl is never concerned with losing and when she does lose nothing bad happens. There are no stakes cause you know the outcome. Kaiji actually loses an ear, so you know that the stakes are high.
It isn't a gambling story, its a story about political power and volition that's uses gambling as a metaphor for the way people manipulate eachother.
Wait so its not a gambling anime???
@@kkassiopeia It's a gambling anime. It's not a gambling story. Kind of like how Kaiji is more like torture porn (like Saw), and not really a gambling story. Both are gambling anime, but if that's all they were we'd be watching animated tournaments without anything else happening.
spacedoohicky Thankz
Li Sung Ho *No, you fucking idiot!*
@@spacedoohicky then what is a true gambling anime if both of those anime are not gambling anime?
I’ve just finished this anime and I absolutely loved it. I think the comparisons to Kaiji are unjust for one simple reason: This isn’t a gambling anime. This is a character study. The journey matters more than the destination.
The gambling serves as a launch pad to reveal the twisted depths of the human psyche and how far certain characters are willing to go to achieve their goals, whether that be pleasure derived solely through the act of gambling as seen in characters such as Yumeko, Midari and Kirari, or amassing great wealth and power as shown through Manyuda and Itsuki etc.
I can understand disappointment if you watch this solely for the result but I think it’s obvious from the first episode with Yumeko baiting Mary that this is about the moment to moment character developments and tension that both parties face.
And that's why this is a video about how kakegurui is a bad gambling anime but a good anime in general
Well the point of the video was to say why it isn’t really a gambling anime. It wasn’t to say that kakegurui isn’t a good show but a decent number of people seem to think that it is
@@lovelyyolk9066 It's not a bad gambling anime.....
I feel like ya'll only basis for saying it's a bad gambling anime is that it doesn't feature death as prominently....which...come on.....Kaiji is a deathgame anime, Kakegurui is about studying addicts. They're both superb, for entirely different reasons, and incomparable for them as well
and that's why his videos exist he never says its abad anirm it's bad gambling aniem which is what it selling itself as
@@Jo_youwhatmate or hear me out here. The gambling aspect which includes : most of the games and the risk , while not terrible, coulda been executed better? Or maybe it's because the stakes weren't high or impactful enough to illicit a long lasting impression/attachment on the watcher to the games and how they progress? This and more can are valid arguments as to why kake. is a bad *gambling* anime.
That was a good point about the high stakes taking away the pressure of the game tbh. If the MC is betting the lives of every innocent person on earth in the first episode, you already know that he's gonna win because otherwise there would be no more show. Unless the character loses and then has to somehow save the world from the initial loss or something. In any case, from a narrative perspective, having the stakes too big is a surefire way to immediately suck the sense of those stakes dry.
Your first mistake was comparing it to a serious gambling anime
first of all, don’t compare both anime, each has there own attractions. second, yumeko doesn’t gamble for money but only wanted to gamble with much more high stakes such as there own lives since she gets turned on with risks and as the anime/mangga mentioned she is a gambling addict. yes, it is predictable that yumeko always win but it is really interesting to find out how. no hate, just my opinion with your own opinion. anyway, i love both the anime.
I think she cheats, as she said “you wont be able to fool anyone if you dont prepare to shed your own blood”, the creator didnt mentioned how she cheats and the creator rarely mention yumeko’s hand,they focus on the opponent if you havent experience any gamble before you wont understand the fealing the creator want to give us. this is a huge different from the previous gambling anime, still they success to make how badass yumeko is.
first of all, if they're gambling anime and even MAL relates them to one another, I'm pretty sure they're comparable. second of all, there is nothing interesting about a character who gambles away sums you and I could ever dream of for the thrill of it. there's nothing relatable and its like weebified wallstreetbets. Kaiji at least makes you feel like you could imagine yourself in his shoes. He isn't super smart and he rarely gets out because of pure intelligence, he occasionally just is lucky, which is the second name of gambling. Luck and gambling are two words that go hand in hand, which from what I've seen, Kakegurui just throws out the window.
Less interesting, honestly a typical seasonal anime. I'm not even an elitist but I really do think it's like any seasonal show.
cingo Agreed what’s with the you can’t compare one anime to another even when their in the same genre it’s just a bad argument for people trying to defend their show
@@ETHEREAL_MONARCH I don't think the point of Kakegurui is about gambling though. Yumeko has lost a number of times and occasionally became a housepet. If you've read the manga, It's not honestly just about gambling anymore and actually follows an interesting plot. Sure, Kakegurui includes gambling in it but gambling isn't just the main focus here. Kakegurui has it's own story to tell too, It's not just about a girl being turned on by the risk of losing her own life. Kakegurui’s story is not just about Yumeko’s gambling addiction; Nor has the show ever focused on just gambling in the first place.
@Jorge Alberto seems like you haven't been watching for a while, Kaiji was popular back in the day, Kakegurui was just new seasonal stuff that had no real competition.
Calling it better based on popularity is like saying Jake Paul is good because of his popularity.
You lack concrete arguments.
He's making up some points and it's kinda annoying me. Like the no gory bit and that they get bullied a bit. Also they re gambling addicts and clearly mentally ill so it's their characters and personalities to risk everything for the thrill.
Poor execution of gambling addicts. Maybe I'm comparing to real life but either way, the gore in this show is laughable compared to ANY anime that has an actual gore tag.
@@ETHEREAL_MONARCH bc the gore isnt the main point in this. This anime is quite mature bc you need to be able to understand more than visualize. This isn't a basic fighting anime it's abt gambling.
@@ETHEREAL_MONARCH just becouse it has gore doesnt mean its mature
@@t-sch.3597 true but Gore is mostly targeted at a older audience. Like 99% of the time it is. It's meant for more mature audiences. I mean gore should never be targeted at younger children.
@@nousernameforme8381 i worded it wrong. this is what i probaly meant " just becouse its gore, it doesn't make it more of a mature or well written story "
alternative title: i talk about how much i like kaiji more than kakegurui for 17 minutes and 17 seconds
I gave a dislike before watching Kaiji. Now its a like after watching Kaiji
Doesn’t change the fact that Kakegurui is one of my favorites
Nobody is trying to change ur opinion we all have are own opinions
you should probably watch more anime then
You watched Kaiji yet?
I stan Mary💅
Clearly you haven't watched Kaiji
tells people that they should check out Kaiji
proceeds to spoil one of the greatest climaxes of the show
you sure are bright
Exactly...
Yeah, I was wondering o.O
Felt like I watched tons of spoilers here.
Spoilers as an idea are stupid anyway. I have never enjoyed a story less for being spoiled. Hell I've only watched several shows for the very reason that they were spoiled for me and I still think they're fantastic.
I played Final Fantasy VII maybe 5 years ago. I was basically playing a zombie this whole time. I was very effected by spoilers.
maybe I'll just stop watching this video, I caught kakegurui from the first week as even if I won't call it good I considered it during the airing to be really entretaining and wanted to see the coments (of jeff) on this video, and don't know when i will watch kaiji eventually but i will just avoid the spoiler this time.
Conclusion: GO WATCH KAIJI NOW. Seriously though, it will blow your mind. It's freaking amazing.
As a professional poker player, I can confirm that nobody will gamble like shown in this series.
Reason 1. While you are on tilt you would most likely lose money rather than getting it because your decisions are not right in most cases.
Reason 2 There is no strategy in Roulette or craps you will ALLWAYS lose money in the long run and that depends on math not "Gambling strength". Reason 3 In games other than poker but a game where you have a choice that can change outcome like Blackjack for example even if you follow guides on how to maximalize your winning you will still loose in long run (you will just loose much less).
BTW Texas Hold'em is the only casino game I know where you can win in the long run that's because your playing against other players, not a casino and you can make more decisions during the game.
Bruh I love the show but everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Just because he is a youtuber doesn’t mean his word is law. He has opinions like the rest of us
Who said his word is law? Not trying to make this toxic just curious
you literally just contradicted yourself in the same comment lmaooo
@@potatos1492 No he didn't
@@tarz1109
"NO U"
I totally agree so many people get so mad and toxic just because of opinions
Best Gambler in anime is D'arby
tbh that's the best fight in part 3
"C-c-c-c-c-ca--... C-c-c-ca--..."
Harcion Gaming you obviously have seen no gambling animes lmao
And they are not even punching each other.
Saturn the slightly humorous icarly joke page I mean it's still pretty good. I have watched Kaiji, Akagi, and I'm going to watch One Outs, but for a non-gambling anime, Jojo pulled gambling better than Kakegurui. I maybe a Jojo fan, but hell no that I will be bias for it when it concerns other topics.
The Virgin Gambler (Kakegurui)
THE CHAD SURVIVOR (Kaiji)
Just say the truth that you like Kaiji more than Kakegurui. People like you gonna make the thing that you love is "the only best in the world" and don't want to accept the truth that both of them are good. Am I right?
At this point, I'm basically willing to sacrifice someone's life to Madhouse, just for them to make Kaiji season 3.
Alejandro Benett what if it was your life
Then it would be for the greater good.
Alejandro Benett Lmao. I like your conviction
Unfortunately, the composer behind Kaiji OST (and Death Note, among others) is still in jail over marijuana charges, and Japan is pretty fucking hardcore about their no tolerance policy over drugs
Tiduidu Wow that's a shock and disappointment.
This isnt a gambling anime this anime is about AHEGAO faces
Except they aren't getting fucked which means it's trash.
Oh, I suppose the fact that a good 75% of the series is centered around gambling doesn't matter. God, I'm a fucking idiot.
Amin Petition for author to switch to doujin and hentai.
Phantom Broker Es jus jok bro
Their wallets are getting fucked
Dont forget kakegurui is also about a highschool where gambling skill is everything
It’s true that Yumeko gets off on the thrill and that she’s certainly not invincible and that the stakes are high. But even when her life isn’t at stake I wasn’t particularly worried. In the episode where she’d lose all her fingernails if she lost (which while certainly horrible it’s not life threatening) I still wasn’t worried because while I could maybe see that happening to a minor character, I don’t see it happening to her. That’s just not the kind of show she’s in.