I remember a band called "Orgy" and they rocked this guitar... I think they even had a signature model, but that was around 1999-2003 so I can't remember very well...
I got one of these guitars , for sitting position I put one of the steinberger leg rests on it, I found it for about $12 on eBay and now it's perfect when sitting with it and the leg rest folds away when standing up
I still play a G-707 (and a G-505) every week in a working band. I have the GR-700 and GR-300 as well. The 300 slays the 700, as far as playability and tracking is concerned, but typically I use them as regular guitars. The design of the stabilizer bar (or handle) is meant to increase mass for a more solid tone, less “dead spots” on the neck, which probably wasn’t as much of an issue as they anticipated. It’s not that it confuses a “digital brain”, as you put it, but more of an analog pitch to voltage converter. Once the note is established as a control voltage, the conversion to digital/MIDI isn’t that crazy. Analog P/V is tricky though. Nice Pat Travers homage.
You’re right, and that’s exactly what I meant, though perhaps I could have articulated it clearer - a more “solid” tone so that the system is correctly detecting things and converting them properly. .
so the same fujigen factory produced an improved version for ibanez called the IMG 2010 (aka "x-ing").It was basically superior in every way except (arguably) aesthetically. it had a graphite reinforced neck, so no stabilizer bar. It was headless, the pickups were a little more mellow (or brighter, depending on who you ask) the bridge was incredibly stable. the individual hex pickup elements were staggered and isolated from the traditional pickups, had tremendously improved tracking and best of all it had a "tremolo" that was fully digital, so rather than bending or pulling strings out of tune it sent midi sysex or cv pitch information over the gk interface. This was intended to be a part of the g-707 but it was scrapped last minute due to deadlines but the tremolo is essentially a spring retained potentiometer and it actually works with the gr-700 out of the box(because it was already engineered for that feature.)If you've never seen it check it out on reverb they show up fairly regularly at decent prices. they play beautifully too. I've had two in my life and I would not trade them for anything (one was stolen though)
thanks for the thoughts. I've seen those in mags but never in real life. I'm a huge Ibanez fan so I'll definitely keep an eye out for one. As if I need another funky shaped guitar 😂
I had one of these in the early 2000s. I also had the GR300 floor synth. It was cool, but finicky. Great for recording, but not easy to use live. I ended up selling it for a Duojet. I miss it, but the Gretsch is better. Thanks for the memories!
I’ve heard the GR-700 for this one was real finnicky too since it was the first to actually convert to midi. I’m probably too sloppy a player to get away with it! Lol
I was given one of these - unfortunately the synth board it came with doesn't seem to work. It is a solid sounding guitar and feels pretty nice (standing up).
hey Danny where's the whammy? I love the whammy bars on my G707s. Thanks for this fine video. There is one issue I have had with the G707, strings breaking at the bridge.
I have one! This is a great video about a cool 80s guitar , adding I have a gr55 synth and an old gr300 synthesizer ,,so I think you really gotta try the synth part out,,, you'll probably enjoy it !!
Did you keep this? I looked through your videos to see if you did a follow-up on the midi out but I couldn't find one. One of these guitars is listed on my local marketplace for 500 right now and I'm seriously considering it
yes! I have to admit I don't use it often because I can't play sitting down! I've been keeping my eye out for the original synth module it came with but no luck yet. Honestly for 500 if it's in good shape I'd say that's a deal. It's a piece of history!
The handle is designed to make more difficult to play it. Even stand up this guitar is not really comfy to play. This is an amazing lutherie guitar, nails the Gibson Les Paul sound. However the avant-guarde design ruined it. Was ~ 3500 USD (with the GR707) back in 1984, discontinued after 4 years of production. A true flop. Iron Maiden's Adrian Smith and Dave Murray used it on 1986' Somewhere in Time album. All synth sounds were made with this. But they never used it live. Too poor playability design and has quite a latency, that made it not enough reliable.
*HAVE YOU **_"SEEN......"_* What a 707 is currently selling for, in the open market in June of 2024?!!? *ANYWAY KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER ROCKER!!!!!* 😎🤘🏼
technically its not a midi guitar, the hexaphonic pickup is analog, its the unit it plugs into that may or may not convert to midi - but point taken, since this video I've plugged this guitar into MANY guitar synths, and it does great!
Speaking of Roland guitar synths, I much prefer any the much more traditional looking guitar controlers for the GR 300 which also work with the G 700. Ι don't go much for cartoonish looking guitars.
@@DannyUnderwood Ι think that one worked only with the particular synth Roland made before the GR300. As a guitar it was very limited, it had only one pickup and it was very heavy. I am talkng about the four Roland guitar controlers which were marketed along with the GR300. The most well known GR303, the GR808 (same shape, different woods and neck through body design) and the two strats, one with three single coil pickups and tremolo and the other with two humbuckers without tremolo. I don't remember what they called the last two, but they were beautiful guitars. I think they didn't make many of those.
I remember a band called "Orgy" and they rocked this guitar... I think they even had a signature model, but that was around 1999-2003 so I can't remember very well...
Amazing band name. “Hey mom I’m going out to Orgy - see you later !”
Amir Derakh did indeed rock the absolute shit out of this guitar during his time in Orgy.
@@DannyUnderwood "Have fun, honey!"
I got one of these guitars , for sitting position I put one of the steinberger leg rests on it, I found it for about $12 on eBay and now it's perfect when sitting with it and the leg rest folds away when standing up
I want to hear it in the SY-1000. DO IT!! This guitar shape is so wild ahaha
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I still play a G-707 (and a G-505) every week in a working band. I have the GR-700 and GR-300 as well. The 300 slays the 700, as far as playability and tracking is concerned, but typically I use them as regular guitars.
The design of the stabilizer bar (or handle) is meant to increase mass for a more solid tone, less “dead spots” on the neck, which probably wasn’t as much of an issue as they anticipated. It’s not that it confuses a “digital brain”, as you put it, but more of an analog pitch to voltage converter. Once the note is established as a control voltage, the conversion to digital/MIDI isn’t that crazy. Analog P/V is tricky though.
Nice Pat Travers homage.
You’re right, and that’s exactly what I meant, though perhaps I could have articulated it clearer - a more “solid” tone so that the system is correctly detecting things and converting them properly. .
so the same fujigen factory produced an improved version for ibanez called the IMG 2010 (aka "x-ing").It was basically superior in every way except (arguably) aesthetically. it had a graphite reinforced neck, so no stabilizer bar. It was headless, the pickups were a little more mellow (or brighter, depending on who you ask) the bridge was incredibly stable. the individual hex pickup elements were staggered and isolated from the traditional pickups, had tremendously improved tracking and best of all it had a "tremolo" that was fully digital, so rather than bending or pulling strings out of tune it sent midi sysex or cv pitch information over the gk interface. This was intended to be a part of the g-707 but it was scrapped last minute due to deadlines but the tremolo is essentially a spring retained potentiometer and it actually works with the gr-700 out of the box(because it was already engineered for that feature.)If you've never seen it check it out on reverb they show up fairly regularly at decent prices. they play beautifully too. I've had two in my life and I would not trade them for anything (one was stolen though)
thanks for the thoughts. I've seen those in mags but never in real life. I'm a huge Ibanez fan so I'll definitely keep an eye out for one. As if I need another funky shaped guitar 😂
I had one of these in the early 2000s. I also had the GR300 floor synth. It was cool, but finicky. Great for recording, but not easy to use live. I ended up selling it for a Duojet. I miss it, but the Gretsch is better.
Thanks for the memories!
I’ve heard the GR-700 for this one was real finnicky too since it was the first to actually convert to midi. I’m probably too sloppy a player to get away with it! Lol
I have a silver one. I love the “just” guitar part… the neck is insane! And the sustain is never ending. I use it as my Les Paul sub.
Yeah same!
I was given one of these - unfortunately the synth board it came with doesn't seem to work. It is a solid sounding guitar and feels pretty nice (standing up).
I bet parts may be hard to find to get it working, I haven't actually tested mine yet, but I plan to.
Why do you not have more subscribers! Great content
Thank you! I do this for fun but it would be fun to have more subs. Tell your friends!
Just scored a black one to go with my GR700, but OMG the red one is GORGEOUS!!
Black is cool too! I've never loved red guitars, but this color fits for this one! haha.
hey Danny where's the whammy?
I love the whammy bars on my G707s.
Thanks for this fine video.
There is one issue I have had with the G707, strings breaking at the bridge.
the whammy bar in action, an example
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gotta find one. Drop by the local shop and go through the whammy bar drawer.
The handle design was to abate neck vibration which causing unwanted sound.
smart!
I love those. Played one in a store back in the day. And, umm, not that you kare-ler, but a Kahler has fine tuners, so this isn't one.
You’re right! The trem is stamped Roland so they probably designed it to be similar but different
Thank you sir great demo. I gotta buy one, they look so cool
haha YESSSSSSSS
I have one! This is a great video about a cool 80s guitar , adding I have a gr55 synth and an old gr300 synthesizer ,,so I think you really gotta try the synth part out,,, you'll probably enjoy it !!
Heck yeah! I'd love to find a GR-300 for it but they are pricey these days!
Cool Danny! This is a crazy guitar!
Thanks for commenting! It is a wild one. You’re new guitar is great too - I love the knobs, is it too nerdy to have an opinion of knobs?
Late to the party, but I'm interested in information on the GR 24 pin to GK 13 pin adapter to use the '80s Roland guitars with my dusty crusty GP-10.
Mine is red. I don't think I've ever seen another one. It is indeed an excellent guitar.
awesome!
I've seen Ace Frehley with one but that's it.
Steve Stevens plays one in the "Flesh for Fantasy" video.
Did you keep this? I looked through your videos to see if you did a follow-up on the midi out but I couldn't find one.
One of these guitars is listed on my local marketplace for 500 right now and I'm seriously considering it
yes! I have to admit I don't use it often because I can't play sitting down! I've been keeping my eye out for the original synth module it came with but no luck yet.
Honestly for 500 if it's in good shape I'd say that's a deal. It's a piece of history!
Omg I can't believe you only have 445 subs and not 445 thousand
If there’s like a guy you could send an email to that could be cool. Maybe it’s a bug.
Pat Travers, nice!
Keep it in frame for the whole time!
gosh I would if I could! I got wobbly arms!
That's the kind of guitar you would see in a parallel universe to earth
Totally!
The handle is designed to make more difficult to play it. Even stand up this guitar is not really comfy to play. This is an amazing lutherie guitar, nails the Gibson Les Paul sound. However the avant-guarde design ruined it. Was ~ 3500 USD (with the GR707) back in 1984, discontinued after 4 years of production. A true flop.
Iron Maiden's Adrian Smith and Dave Murray used it on 1986' Somewhere in Time album. All synth sounds were made with this. But they never used it live. Too poor playability design and has quite a latency, that made it not enough reliable.
*HAVE YOU **_"SEEN......"_* What a 707 is currently selling for, in the open market in June of 2024?!!?
*ANYWAY KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER ROCKER!!!!!* 😎🤘🏼
Holy MOLY. Wow those have exploded eh?
I missed the synth part of the guitar
What’s it weigh
Sorry I dont know! It's about the same as a normal guitar.
If you decided to sell it, how much would you sell it for?
I definitely won’t be selling it any time soon! I’d have to do the research then
The Network uses this
Oh my god they are awesome. I'm in. Thank you for the suggestion.
Sigue sigue sputnik
YESSSSS !
@@DannyUnderwood And early Big Audio Dynamite.
All this watching just to find out you are NOT going to use the Midi guitar with midi. What is the point. ?
technically its not a midi guitar, the hexaphonic pickup is analog, its the unit it plugs into that may or may not convert to midi - but point taken, since this video I've plugged this guitar into MANY guitar synths, and it does great!
They look rad. Synth guitar sucks tho.
Which is why I’m happy it works great as a normal guitar
QUIT YACKING AND PLAY IT.
DISAPPOINTED
This is exactly what my Dad used to yell at me
That's not a Kahler, that's not even close to a Kahler! ... (🫢)
Hehehehehe!
Speaking of Roland guitar synths, I much prefer any the much more traditional looking guitar controlers for the GR 300 which also work with the G 700. Ι don't go much for cartoonish looking guitars.
Fair enough! I'd love to find a GS-500, too cool.
@@DannyUnderwood
Ι think that one worked only with the particular synth Roland made before the GR300. As a guitar it was very limited, it had only one pickup and it was very heavy. I am talkng about the four Roland guitar controlers which were marketed along with the GR300. The most well known GR303, the GR808 (same shape, different woods and neck through body design) and the two strats, one with three single coil pickups and tremolo and the other with two humbuckers without tremolo. I don't remember what they called the last two, but they were beautiful guitars. I think they didn't make many of those.
the one you have is in a lot better shape then mine ;). love mine
Battle scars! Glad you love yours.