Task Manager Author reacts to Task Manager Cartoon!
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2024
- The original author of Windows Task Manager reacts to a Task Manager cartoon by theOdd1sOut. For my book on life on the Spectrum: amzn.to/49sCbbJ
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I think James would be kind of flattered by having the actual Task Manager creator reacting to it :)
It's a great way of making a point. If we all had the skills and time to communicate like this, bug reports, tickets and suggestions would always be fun.
more flattering is sharing the link so he gets ad views. UA-cam creators can add links to their feed..
@@BGravesHe did, it’s in the description
@@goldkirby we already watched it though
He draws like stonetoss.
*_Task manager is like:_*
*End task:* Please stop running.
*End process:* You're terminated!
taskkill /IM /F
@@electricdragon9366 If you don't mind, can you break down what each part means/does?
@@dakoderii4221 /IM stands for "image" name and takes the exename.exe as input. The /F is force, don't ask for it to stop, just kill the process now.
@@electricdragon9366 Wouldn't that be what Task Manager does under the surface?
@@dakoderii4221 taskkill is a task killer, /IM is the name of the process so lets say acrobat.exe and /F is force
so
taskkill /IM acrobat.exe /F
GAME OVER. Insert Coins to Continue.
*Finally*
C:\>taskkill /?
TASKKILL [/S system [/U username [/P [password]]]]
{ [/FI filter] [/PID processid | /IM imagename] } [/T] [/F]
Description:
This tool is used to terminate tasks by process id (PID) or image name.
Parameter List:
/S system Specifies the remote system to connect to.
/U [domain\]user Specifies the user context under which the
command should execute.
/P [password] Specifies the password for the given user
context. Prompts for input if omitted.
/FI filter Applies a filter to select a set of tasks.
Allows "*" to be used. ex. imagename eq acme*
/PID processid Specifies the PID of the process to be terminated.
Use TaskList to get the PID.
/IM imagename Specifies the image name of the process
to be terminated. Wildcard '*' can be used
to specify all tasks or image names.
/T Terminates the specified process and any
child processes which were started by it.
/F Specifies to forcefully terminate the process(es).
/? Displays this help message.
One of the funniest cartoons I've seen was a single frame entitled, "The Author of the Windows File Copy Dialog Visits Some Friends." The dialog reads: "I'm just outside of town, so I should be there in fifteen minutes. Actually, it's looking more like six days. No, wait... thirty seconds." 😅
Dave covered this one a while back too
Ah yes, xkcd 612
@@cpucat Thanks for that
Quite a funny-ass cartoon.
xkcd 37
@@vibaj16 In light of your avatar, I was just about to move the hyphen, and then I realized you included the reference and pre-empted me. Well played, sir-equivalent, well played.
I love that task manager hasn’t bothered you. In my experience, trying to contact people in association with past projects annoys most, but you’re a legend.
My past projects are usually past headaches and I'm certainly not fond of them cropping up again.
@@jameslawrence8734 I was recently contacted about a product I brought to market, almost 25 years ago. The company is out of business, and the guy had a bunch of very expensive Telemetry receivers that had their M-Disk chips failed. These were the first solid state disk drives. They were on 40MB, but they held Windows CE and the system firmware. I hadn't seen one since the Friday prior to 9/11 but we came up with a way to extract the firmware from a working unit and install if in a CF card, with an IDE adapter.
BTW. M-Disk later became Sandisk. The ones we used were call 'Disk on a chip' and were in a 28 pin IC package that plugged into a PC104 industrial CPU board.
Task manager was a life saver for window 98 for me for a long time. Even window xp for my gamer days.
"client server something something server" is probably the most accurate description of Windows services 😂
TaskManger is finally pretty decent now, with more information about hardware and software. And it can often kill off stubborn "apps"
Still not as functional as process xp
Task manager did a heavy trade between features and performance - not for the better
Aside from crashing, freezing, refusing to come into focus (but that's more Windows Explorer still being just as garbage as it was in XP), and being laggy as hell. When it's actually functional, it is indeed light years ahead of previous versions.
@@noctisocculta4820 Tip: Set it to "always on top" when everything is working; that way you have a much higher chance of it actually becoming visible when you need it.
The only time I've ever known something Dave didn't know off the top of his head. Csrss stands for client server runtime subsystem
Everybody gangsta till task manager stop responding
Then call the task boss, since the task manager is down.
The funny part with Taskman.exe is - you can always start it or a new session. Strg+Alt+Esc will give you the option to stark it. Taskmanager only needs dwm (Desktop Windows Manager) to run, nothing else. And by the way, the most common program I have to taskkill is "explorer.exe" - And then you need taskman for starting it again (in administrator, otherwise it can't start)
@@tronosgamingwizard No reason to reach out to the big guy when you could first try and ask task regional manager
@@That0neGuy2 oh yeah, true..
but if all 3 fail (Task Manager, Task Regional Manager, Task Boss) then here comes the Task CEO, if he fails.. there's the board of Task Directors
@@tronosgamingwizard Yeah😂
There was always the hard boot with the power button depending on the intensity of my anger.
I used to have a old compaq pentium 3 server with a big red power switch I could just pull and it made the loudest CLUNK. You felt significance when you killed that server
And, not so surprisingly any more, it would occasionally reboot more quickly that way.
And if the power button wasnt working i could yank the power cord or the battery
@@dgurevich1 i miss the big red/orange switch, holding your finger down in anger on the power button just doesn't do it for me or my anger
Yep yank out the power cord in half a heartbeat 😂😅😁
I remember pouring over TM looking for unknown tasknames to see if something evil had invaded my system. These days on Mac, there are far too many to remember (Monitor).
I did too and then realized the machine run slow because the kernel accounting was not exposing all necessary data.
So I kept researching and testing until I could make a full build considerably faster.
Original inspiration was TM
And searching for names on the internet for what do.
These days, there are far too many on Windows, too. At the moment, I have two apps open (Firefox and, natch, Task Manager) and there are 90 background processes plus 95 Windows processes...
@@Dazza_Doo I left that messy part out ...
I miss old Task Manager. New Task Manager can be laggy, freeze, and sometimes refuses to actually stop the process, even in Details view. Sad face.
Process Explorer by Sysinternals is your friend. It can be set in options to replace the traditional task manager so it'll open with CTRL-SHIFT-ESC. If you run it as Admin there's little it can't do but security restrictions still limit the ability to easily terminate something like Defender. It's much more advanced and even allows you to terminate individual threads of a process. If a program is hung and you're lucky, you can terminate a thread stuck in a loop or bugged out to get it working again without closing the entire application.
Never had any issues with the new?? I like it more than older ones.
Powershell has your back: PS C:\> Get-Process acrobat | kill -f
I've never had that issue.
I have freeze-lag sometimes in the Windows 10 Task Manager so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just recalling in '98, I was working with an admin & he had W2K installed & while we were discussing an issue, he right-clicked on the task bar to pull up task manager & I was simply like, that's frikking awesome, so convenient! 😅
I can't help but notice the Level1Techs in your subscriptions, very cool!
Another important note is sometime just hitting the X doesn’t actually close the program like Microsoft Teams. It just minimizes it to the system tray. Wonder if that’s what happened there. Adobe in System Tray.
Steam and Discord minimise too
@@Aresydatch exactly!
Clicking the X is no different from any other GUI button, just executes the code the programmer wants.
Sometimes there's a setting that allows you to change the behaviour of *[X]* to actually close the program. But that's up to the programmer. Just old school manners to stick to standards and conventions if you ask me. I like my UI to be predictable.
The error it threw on its face when asked to close is what happened here.
Hi Dave. You've probably seen this, but just in case: Mark Russinovich is looking for you. In the 2011 tech-ed talk "Mysteries of Windows Memory Management Revealed" (Part 1, 1:11:00 mark) he says: "If you know the guy that wrote Task Manager or owns it please let me because I haven't been able to find him [...] The Task Manager guy has made quite a few interesting decisions that I'd like to talk to him about." I'd love to see a collaboration with him talking about Task Manager.
They have met each other at Microsoft Ignite 2023, there is a Tweet and a photo 🙂.
Hey Dave! Thanks for your work helping make such great OSes. I've been using Windows since 3.11 and use 11 Pro at home. I have to use a Mac at work, and I know people love Macs, but personally, I find Mac OS to be constructed like an arcane afterlife punishment. Like for real, it's 2024 and Mac can't tile windows. I know people say you have to get used to doing things the Apple way, but that's like saying that once you stop struggling, the straight jacket is actually quite comfortable. I really appreciate the balance of freedom and safeguards in Windows. I also spent a ton of time as a kid scrolling through Task Manager and terminating random processes in XP just to see what would happen. Good times!
I have the same reaction to iPhones. So much that they should do but don't or can only be done "the apple way" ™ 😮 often a retrograde step from competing smartphones from 10-15 years ago 🤷🏻♂️
I definitely LOVE this format. Continue it please
When the Short video is playing, I hear the audio twice, the first one because of the screen recording and the second one because the microphone picks it up
Video descriptions are a thing, reading the first 2 lines of it can be pretty useful sometimes :)
@@thetaco_007 I was pretty sure that was so he didn't have trouble with copyright stuff...
@@thetaco_007 that seems to be talking about the microphone audio, not this
I like it. Gives it a digital feel.
Miraculously, the simple act of me just opening up Task Manager with the intention of killing a frozen program helped quite a lot of them to somehow work again…
i don't remember the specifics, but task manager does *something* funky to ensure it can open even if your PC is lagging absolute balls, and whatever that thing is can often metaphorically kick your other atuff awake, incidentally
Your genius is the reason I don't have to restart my whole pc to remove a background task or frozen process.
Omg! I literally saw this clip earlier today and you were the first one I thought of lol. “That One” lol
Love it Dave... An awesome way to teach the best use of task manager!!
Pretty accurate cartoon... and just another reason why I don't use MicroSoft or Adobe products anymore. I had a hang on my Linux Mint Laptop over night, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and about thirty seconds later, I was back at a working desktop.
Meanwhile I'm using a Chromebook. It's not a pleasant experience. Pretty much every other time I open an app it decides to not really open but still sort of be running, so I have to close it with ChromeOS's version of task manager, and I always forget how to open it so I have to look that up, unless I want to press random combinations of keys to find the correct one, in which case I'll later realize that I managed to do the shortcut for caps lock.
@@vibaj16 Sorry about the Chromebook;0)
If it's your own device though, I think that you can run Linux on it, or at least you used to be able to, I have not followed them for a while now.
@@javabeanz8549 You can, but I don't know enough about this stuff to be confident trying to actually fully run Linux on it. Instead, I use what the Chromebook calls a "Linux development environment" that to my understanding runs a Linux VM called Crostini.
Love it. I’d totally watch more of these!
Ah, I remember how some of the fullscreen games I played tend to have crashed and be permanently on top, so even the task manager was stuck under the black screen of "can't minimize this window".
Back in the day you had real player and all of the hooks that it wanted to get into the OS. I remember building a gold Master to image laptops and the majority of it was setting up real player so it wouldn't take complete control over your machine. And now you have Adobe with its creative cloud crap. This is a perfect meme and thank you for sharing. Dave
LOL, until it got to the creative cloud stuff, I thought it was an old reference. Adobe has sucked for 30 years.
With all the container and VM stuff in current versions of Windows. Redmond should force Adobe et. al. to make their apps into a container. So much easier to nuke a container when it starts misbehaving.
@@Yandarval Well I'm not so sure... recent versions of office all use containers, and they are a massive pain to fix or kill whenever it stops working. On the other hand, the older MSI-based Office installers (no container) always have worked for me and rarely crash or break, and when they do it's quick and easy to go into control panel and press the repair button on office.
task manager creator creates task manager that is featured in a video containing task manager and is reacted to by task manager creator
A core childhood memory for me is stuffing around with task manger, closing down every process I could to speed up the computer then getting to Explorer not knowing in the slightest what it does and seeing it chewing through heaps of memory then deciding to End Task and then having absolute dread wash over me wondering if I just destroyed my parents computer lol
Then learning if all else fails hold down power button for 5sec 😌
FYI you can close explorer then simply restart explorer.exe in run and everything will go back to normal. I close it all the time to minimize variance in benchmarks but it can also be helpful if it's Windows is having one of those days.
That was hilarious and relatable - Autodesk and other programs *love* running in the background too much...
This is a really cool format! Thank you so much for all your hard work building Windows and pretty much everything else. 🙂
I love this... We wants more !!
-"Yeah, I'm the person who wrote the windows task manager, and I'm on vacations. How did you guess it?"
"TaskManager: this one!" I love that part 😁
Task manager is the best "stfu" ever created.
Seems perfect that the cartoon pitted Task Manager against Acrobat. I edit PDFs in my work often and Acrobat, when closed, doesn’t always actually terminate, and then it won’t open again, until Task Manager blows it away. Now that Adobe is subscription, surely they can afford developers that can write software that closes properly. Ok, rant over.
On behalf of users everywhere, thank you for saving us from so many forced computer restarts.
Your son has a great sense of humor.
At one employer, a coworker, Steve left his PC unlocked. Another coworker, Andy, installed the BSOD screensaver on his PC. When Steve came back, his PCwas rebooting, then the BSOD happened and the cycle would repeat. Steve called the help desk and told them about his problem. Andy entered his cube, hit the ESC button, said "screensaver", and dashed out.
The best thing about that screensaver is the extraneous disk activity, making it more realistic.
I love this format. You have a very clever sense of humor. ❤❤❤
I don 't use Windows and can't see myself doing so in the future, but I do enjoy hearing from a seasoned engineer about the kind of challenges we all have eventually. [I love the Altair and Kim videos, BTW]
Not sure what feedback in terms of the format you are looking, but a little humor does go a long way. Love that.
To be sure, I'll take it as technical as you can dish it out - but a little humor along the way makes gobs of technical goop digestible.
Thanks for the videos!
Windows has some quite nice technical underpinnings with Windows NT, and then some shit in the form of Win32.
@@paulstelian97 yeah, I was part of the WinNT beta and watched it closely for several releases. Just didn't agree with the direction it headed ...
my favorite task manager safeguard is that only explorer.exe has a restart option when you right click on it to end task (explorer.exe is responsible for the task bar in addition to being the file manager). I used to have a laptop with a busted HDD (I've got a screenshot somewhere with task manager reporting a disk response time in the minutes) and explorer used to crash all the time on that thing
I used to just end task explorer.exe and click file - run process - explorer.exe.
As long as you can get task manager up and working you can usually get explorer.exe working again.
I loved this video! Thank you and greetings from Portugal.
Thanks for building such useful...frame... monitoring,indexing frame. Came handy many times.
I'd make one where Task Manager says to a malware "kill it, kill it with fire".
I love the new windows process manager tool (that combined with task manager is fun)
Hey, Dave, love your channel. Could you do a Secret History of COM someday, please? That would be awesome.
THIS is proper reaction content! Disgest the content, ingest a quick story when appropriate, and then give your thoughts/remarks at the end all while making sirebto credit the creator.
Someone should tell sniper woof.
DO MORE OF THESE!
Love your content Dave. Really interesting to see first hand views from the inner workings of Microsoft.
I want to get your book but I just dont have time to sit and read it. Is there a plan for an audio book version so I can listen in my car to and from work?
Just buy it and read it !!!!! Eye opening!
Love this format. Nice to see some less scripted material in the mix.
"Nuke it!"
_Clicks _*_End Process Tree_*
This was hilarious thank you. Absolutely love task manager use it a lot
More, Please!!!!
Yeah awesome format mate, thankyou!
reminded me of "battlefield buddies" on UA-cam, that is hilarious
pls make more like this
we def need your wisdom
I love Odd1out videos! Funny stuff!
I never heard of this channel before either, but will sub to see more future ones
Thanks for sharing the humour. Have a good hoilday. 🙂
That comic is a proper summary of how Task Manager rolls.
Windows has a quirk where if you type *powershell wininit* into the command prompt, then it initiates a BSoD. Pretty fun to prank on your friends!
I love that you're doing this on a Mac.
2:32 I knew I would not be the only one to notice 😀
I laughed very hard at this, this was an actually brilliant meme
Thanks for the Taskmanager Dave!
Its my best Comrade in Windows til today.
🤘🙂👍
btw csrss stands for Client/Server Runtime Subsystem
huh TIL.
Came from James' animation when I realized you had a react for it :) Great minds.
Just got here form James animation. Task manager is a life saver and time saver.
Good format, funky audio.
Hey Dave, can you share any notes you might have about the “Close Program” dialogue box from before task manager?
I remember using that on Win95/98/ME (and something similar on earlier 3.x).
I can't tell you how many times I need to thank you, Dave, for providing this integral program, that can kill pesky programs that stick around, even when they've been closed.
Great, Dave! You are a boss! 😎😁🙌
I'm starting to think that the reason Windows succeeds is less because it is less complicated to maintain but more that it includes the perfect multi-tool for troubleshooting its many issues right out of the box. Long live Task Manager!
Dave's awesome.
Back in Windows XP, I would experiment with setting Task Manager as the shell. Then use run to launch apps.
Having the End Task button when right-clicking a window on the task bar is very convenient, cause sometimes apps just refuse to close with the traditional close button. so then i have to kill it on task manager so that it closes, which is annoying.
in case you want "EnD Task" option to appear you need to enable the Dev options on Windows 11 and enable the setting for it.
Thanks for the good laugh, Dave! xD
OMG, Odd1sOut video intersecting with Dave's Garage, after a solar eclipse and recent earthquake in New Jersey. WHAT IS GOING ON!?!?!?! :D
Thank you for Task Manager.
I'd be curious to have your thoughts on Process Hacker/System Informer - it's what I use nowadays as my Task Manager since it boots up faster and has more power due to their kernel driver.
This cartoon killed me. I saw it first at like 2am and I had to bury my head into a pillow to muffle the laughter after Task Manager pulled out a shotgun.
Using Task Manager to BSOD a computer going haywire really does feel like pushing the Big Red Button - the be-all-end-all solution when there's no other choice left
Nowadays thanks to the modularity of Windows since Version 7 you cannot nuke your whole system anymore. svchost and so on cannot be killed and when you kill explorer or dwm, it will either restart (dwm) or you can start it yourself again (explorer.exe). Even if you would kill winlogon, it wouldn't crash your system, you would just get back into the login screen. The reason is because the kernel itself has fallback rountines and when one routine crashes, the kernel pulls it up again. It was implemented to enable screen driver updates inside of Windows. Because before that updating your screen driver was a gamble, as if something would crash because of the update you couldn't repair it anymore and as you had done a restart, also the old working version of the driver was gone, so no fallback. Nowadays you screen goes blank, but stay turned on, so that if the AMD or NVidia driver don't want to come up again it can revert the update and fall back to the old driver.
Hmmm I flashbacked to the Superman movie when the charater yelled "Task Manager!"
"Miss Tessmacher!"
I was a consultant in the 90's and early 2000's I lived through most of these X-D
Great video!
I get the file locking paradigm, but I think MS and 3rd parties can make software upgrades easier.
Simply put the new files nearby. On startup, if the new files exist, move them into place and then get on with starting up.
Windows could swap things around without going back to the BIOS, at most drop back to an executable that swaps stuff around and then resumes operation much as the EFI boot loader starts up.
Yesterday I had an update for Photoshop (Beta). An earlier version running prevented the update from progressing.
Task manager is my personal assistant for managing Vegas Pro until I decide to spend the time and eat the frustration of learning Davinci Resolve and remap my dedicated keypad remappings for it once I figure out everything I use/need/like/etc for using it efficiently...
It being Adobe is perfect.
sup dave nice to see you again i hope you are doing well as always
Enjoy your vacation…. Away from the garage! We’ll all wait here for your return 😊
Just going to say, Dave has written the single most useful windows extension in existence. I honestly use task manager almost daily.
Brilliant ah the good old days - nor always good or better than today
Ironically, my system just crashed with a bugcheck error as I started this vid... (I don't know what's the issue, that's what the Event Viewer shows)
I have an install somewhere that is able to launch 2 instances of task manager somehow I have no idea what I did to it
Cartoon was hilarious!
Did I just see a FaceTime icon jump from the dock on a Microsoft engineer's laptop?
This is pure heresy!
Man id like to have old task manager to basically force restart my computer or to atleast see ehat the hell is actually in it without opening the case of the computer mainly because just idle memory is basically maxed
I would love a reaction to task manager memes video.
i like how he works for microsoft and created incredibly important additions to Windows yet uses a mac anyway
And if all else fails, sign out and sign back in.
I miss the days of Stomping around in "reg-edit" with big muddy boots on and a copy of XP enterprise on stand by. Thanks dave, for "Task-Eliminator" as I called it.
Back then they were known as TSRs
Sometimes of course lock files will still be in place that even a reboot wont fix and creative cloud will still think acrobat is open lol
Btw, his contact email is in his about page on UA-cam.
Re your book: Many thanks for creating that. It has quietly triggered my wife into researching autism - and she says that she now understands my personality (or lack of it) much more clearly.
I had an extremely under powered xp laptop, I was "shooting myself in the foot intentionally" daily to squeak out a couple extra fps. I got XP down to just a handful of processes, which did gut functionality outside of whatever game I was playing but I would just reboot to bring back the processes and do other things.
I wish there was a way to turn off all the safeguards in modern windows, my win98 machine is fun, driver installs can be messy but making it work is part of the fun. It just feels closer to the metal in a way that modern windows and linux don't. Modern windows "just works" most of the time but also doesn't let you experiment or change things when you know what you are doing. And if something DOES break the safeguards get in the way of actually fixing it.
The adobe bit reminds me of the last time i had to do a form though adobesign i had to contact the games dev to make sure the NDA form was legit because the links/form system is perfectly made to scam people since theres not even the bare minimum of a line showing either an account name or email to say who made the forms.