Alfred Schnittke: Agony (1974/1981)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998): Suite da concerto dalle musiche per il film "Agony" di Elem Klimov (1974/1981) -- Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin diretta da Frank Strobel --
I. Eileitung
II. Walzer
III. Tango
IV. Finale
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The more I listen to this piece the more I understand that this is a very serious symphonic work, very modern, monumental, and this is music for 21st century.
My biggest mistake but my last chance:
I heard Schnittke first time in my age of 67.
never too late to find something new)
wernertrptube I'm 63 !! and a musician .. first time also
wernertrptube There is no age to discover such a great masterpiece..
I first heard him last month. I'm 68. He brought me back to orchestral music. I am now listening to everything from Haydn to Goercki.
21 years old here. Now I feel pretty good about myself. Thanks.
Начало прошлого века - расцвет символизма. Посмотрел фильм "Агония", многое понял, Элем Климов создал фильм, опираясь на символы. Также и гениальный Шнитке.
Much like Stravinsky, Schnittke often uses the instruments outside their normal registers, giving their sound an intense, more harmonically complex quality. Plus, he regularly uses less common instruments such as the celesta, snare drum, gong, tubular bells, etc. His orchestrations are pure genius.
i totally agree with you
Согласен! Шнитке и Стравинский большие экспериментаторы в музыке.
These new harmonies bring sounds of the street, everyday noise, this is what Shostakovich did it too. Great!
@@YThome7 ua-cam.com/video/5gRGf4aNtkE/v-deo.htmlsi=xBpgOMOpaFHb_A7o
Когда б кто знал - из какого сора, пыли, боли и страданий родилась эта музыка
17:24 финал!
Дождались
Дождемся 🙏
He makes your pain and agony feel epic.
It is epic; it is beautiful in its own right, in the larger context of what reality is and the greater purpose it serves.
I am so glad my mom bought some Schnittke CDs when we lived in Moscow back in 1986. I was 15 then. Still love his deeply beautiful and disturbing music.
Amazing for 15 years old to appreciate such a complex music. I was so stupid musically at that age. I took me half a century and I studied music too. What happened to you now, I wonder? In the West?
Schnittke was a master of making his full scale symphonic works accessible for general public, good example, he made his music lighter, more conventional and yet it is the same complex Schnittke, 21st century music. His music for cinema is beautiful, opens new horizons, prepares you for his symphonic works.
21 век это незавершённый 20. Отсюда и моры и голод и войны. Реставрация это не новое, а попытка пришить заплаты на прорехи.
@@НоваяЖизнь-г2г Правильное наблюдение, качественно 21 век пока это 20, в частности многие события это продолжение распада Советского Союза, т.е. корректировка границ ближе к этническим границам. А менталитет, политические подходы не изменились совершенно - это таже Холодная Война, на самом деле мы отброшены назад ко временам Хрущева. А если взять культуру и конкретно серьезную музыку, то впечатление творческого застоя - испольнительское искусство растет, а новых шедевров нет, ну если не считать "Киркорова". Я давно не был в России, не знаю что происходит на выставках живописи, стараюсь читать, но пока ничего особенного, а музыке точно застой. Вот мысль-вопрос, который меня будоражит уже много лет: вот советская власть, разруха-нужда, низкий уровень культуры полуграмотной массы народа, партийная цензура, свободы нет, человека могут арестовать за не совсем "политически выверенную" постановку спектакля, а великие произведения появляются во всех сферах культуры. А может быть "свобода" тут и вовсе не причем? Или можеть быть свободу просто невозможно отнять: ты ее в дверь, а она в окно?
@@YThome7 а железная поступь истории, объективный фактор? Это куда девать? Все, что вы перечислили, фактор субъективный. И хотя роль личности в истории никто не отменял, главное это базис. Ну что вы герра Карла Маркса не читали?
@@НоваяЖизнь-г2г Ничего не понял из Вашего ответа, но поставил Лайк, потому что больше некому, ведь мало кто даже пытается ответить на мой вопрос. Пробовал читать в зрелом возрасте, но трудно читать, но в объме Краткого Курса и в объме университетской программы "изучал", вернее меня учили. Не понял Вас, попрубуйте еще раз. Я говорю - свободы не было, а рыба в Каме была и великие симфонии сочиняли. Вот Американские мызыковеды критикуют Пятую Шестоковича, мол, написал чтобы угодить Сталину, а ведь именно эта симфония в Америке и по сей день самая популярная! Не Четвертая, а Пятая! Значит что, Сталин знал что нужно всем "народам"? А Катерину Измайлову в Америке никто не ставит и не слушает, но все твердят что это великая опера. Лично я считаю что все три перечисленные великие и я их все люблю. Так причем тут свобода? Ему запретили это, а он написал то. Его раскритиковали за это, а он создал то. И все равно то, что он создал талантливо! Вот Киркоровщина совершенно свободна сегодня - хоть нагишом, а ведь это все не более чем развлекательный балаган! Сорочинская ярмарка! Поступь истории всегда железная, и сейчас тоже, вон как гремит, не просто железом а с ураном 235! А где симфония чтобы зал битком как это было в те времена!
@@НоваяЖизнь-г2гглаза проглядели (где субъективный фактор)
Это нечто, что выходит за пределами музыки; что невозможно описать словами обыкновенного человека.
goes beyond music, certainly!
C'est peut-être plutôt la musique qui va parfois au delà des limites du langage ordinaire.
@@vasiliyknyshev2569 Вася, ты в какой клинике Бердычева сидишь, дай адресок!
Адресок? Вы что туда хотите? Каким местом думаете, задавая столь глупый вопрос?
Агония иногда вызывается неправильным вопросом@@alexandratchepournova2867
0:00 - Introduction
4:34 - Waltz
9:46 - Tango
15:59 - Finale
Kaleriya Orlova Obrigado!
Thanks!
Final!
enfin! 15:59
Danke sehr!
I think I've listened to this about 100x now. Keeps getting better and better!
agreed. Something about it.
@@davidfloren5339 согласен. Что-то в этом
This piece has Russia written all over it. Love it!
Symphonic and chamber works can sound good.
If the musicians and conductor are giving their all.
If the sound engineers did their job well.
If the recording transfers well to UA-cam.
If the piece itself is worth your time.
Rare is it when all of these things coalesce.
And rare is my pleasure now,
hearing this splendid piece yet again for the veritable "umpteenth" time.
Потрясающе! Гениальный композитор! !!!! Созвучно нашему времени! Трогает и волнует Душу! Благодарю!!!!!!
I had to write a homework about Vivaldi. While doing this, I heard to "Agony". My mother stepped in and looked on the things I was writing. After some time she looked to the computer. Time flew when she finally said:"This isn't Vivaldi."
Of course this isn't Vivaldi!
+Salbei17
Thanks for the tongue in cheek comment ! :o)
What a great composer and a enthusiastic music!!
This sounds much clearer than (and probably a different recording to) the CD I have of Alfred Schnittke film music. Some amazing stuff in this soundtrack.
I hear you. Some recordings may not be the best possible performance, but they are the best possible recording, like when they set the Mike's up properly and distribute the sound appropriately so that we can hear the tempany rolls like a distant Thunder behind the trumpets French horns violas and whatever the hell else is playing.
@@BrucknerMotet BIS records has some Schnittke recording
@@BrucknerMotet actually i looked up since i got one myself and they have 25... obviously im a decade late
Loving this. So cool to hear ideas from the Concerto Grosso no. 1 and the Piano Quintet.
Schnittke certainly knew how to compose agonizing music.
He depicted the struggle: good vs evil. He was a religious man but knew he was decidedly not living in heaven and would not, here on earth.
Крутая музыка и замечательный фильм!! 😊
Потрясающая музыка Альфреда Шнитке...
The tango leitmotiv is used later in the Concerto Grosso no. 1
The Waltz material is also used in the Piano Quintet.
music from the very beginning will be in the 2th cello concerto later
main theme is also used in concerto grosso no. 1, as a backround figure.
The tango on Schnittke repeats everytime there is a tango only with few differences
These impure tones right at the beginning of the introduction. Is this a kind of hopelessness? What`s going on with these tones. Can you believe it? You cannot understand great art. Great art is overwhelming.
A giant -- no other way to describe him...
как сейчас помню , мы свалили всем классом с ИСТОРИИ КПСС и пошли смотреть АГОНИЮ - лучшее место , как мусора забрали графа (мужа графини, понравившейся Григорию Ефимычу) вместо Распутина . Кульминация ТАНГО !!! кто не смотрел обязательно посмотрите фильм. Мы тогда пропустили не только Историю КПСС , но и следовавшую за ней математику. И правильно сделали .
The Walts is greatly influence mainly by Prokofiev and Shostakovich. Shnittke used to be one of the great avant-gaudes of the 20th century but his film music is a different story.
***** I think he is, but Agony is a film about Raspoutin, which explains the picture.
:) The 'Tango' makes use of Schnittke's own Concerto Grosso #1.
Thanks for uploading this, excellent.
Arte, oficio, maestría y genialidad. No me canso de escuchar esta música. Schnittke es uno de mis músicos favoritos.
Great composer. Great music.
Just unbelievable complexity, dynamic and beauty.
More timely than ever. Digging the photo of Rasputin too. Thank you!
Тарковский,Шнитке,Дали,Гаудио...Будет ли следующий?..
It was not very long ago that there was very little of Schnittke's music in/on You tube and now all of a sudden a much larger amount is available. His symphonies range from total satire to very serious and his choral music is being performed more often in more places. When I purchased a CD of his 8th Symphony w/ his "Suite from The Census List" it became obvious that his ability to compose in very different styles was like changing clothes!
Богата моя страна талантами! 🙏
Филмът е въздейства. Разпад и гротеска. Това, което, очевидно, е било цел на режисьора е постигнато забележително добре. Актьорите са на изключително високо ниво, впечатлен съм.
Но!
Единствено музиката на Шнитке е гениална.
I would bow in front of this man!
Великая музыка Великого Шниттке...
Even Rasputin looks epic
Rasputin was epic anyways, man!
So inventive and skillful
This musical themes he repeats for most of his career makes his work even more curious and interesting. My life is another composer after knowing the works of Schnittke.
The photo is not Alfred Schnittke, rather a photo of Grigori Rasputin.
The movie Agony (1981) is about Rasputin. That's why his image has been used.
И фильм хороший, хоть и не правдивый, как все фильмы о царской семье и Распутине. Но музыка правдиво передает атмосферу времени.
Molto interessante, particolare, questo tango poi ti prende l anima, grande questo compositore russo che io fino ad oggi non conoscevo🙏💐💕
WOW!!!! I'm only 63 :)
Ayak basan iik Türk beyi olarak selam olsun Alfred beye diye selamlıyorum :)
Музыка стопроцентно иллюстрирует содержание фильма. Помню свои ощущения при просмотре, жуть, жуть. И музыка помогает ощутить это в полной мере. Гениальный Шнитке, что ещё сказать...
Нина Коломийцева Стопудово?
@@leonid9971 to : Leonid Beyzerman Stupovich.
Farha'd Frank Nakhai. Persian in North California.
Вот это было чудовище! Когда слушаешь музыку Шнитке, озноб по коже. Какая то фантасмагория, что хотел со страной, то и делал.
@@Столица-с3н всё! Звучит Финал. Кончилось их время.
Как когда то Распутина.
Твои слова побуждают меня хотеть посмотреть фильм. (google translation).
Your words make me want to watch the film.
The film Agony is about Rasputin, brah
a genius, that's it
Недаром эта музыка в фильме Агония (СССР, 1974 -1982) звучит как набат по убийцам нашего народа!
The waltz really sounds like he just rewrote Prokofiev's Waltz from Cinderella
No foreigner composer has ever understood tango as good as Schnittke. I am curious to know if there is some info regarding this matter (interviews, articles, etc.)
ASTOR PIAZZOLLA!
Ah, some nice, easy listening. Compared to most of his work, that is.
I can't get enough of this.
What an incredible mind this man had! It's as if we are front and center as witnesses to the tragic end of the Romanov Dynasty.
Это просто счастье, иметь возможность слышать эту прекрасную музыку...
0:00 - Introduction
4:34 - Waltz
9:46 - Tango
15:59 - Finale
Genial! Habla el sonido del alma!
16:00 the finale begins in a gentle way
17:20 the ongoing bell/trumpet begins
18:44 the trumpet (I think) begins in the background for the next 25 seconds
The finale is always unexpected for those who deserve it
Now I already want bells, festive, victorious. So tired of enjoying this dregs, pouring from empty to empty.
Сильно,Вечно.Достойно,и по доброй традиции-неистрибимо.Легко пилить,но растить в 100- крат.Шнитке-вечен!
beau intensément
Hearing this echoes from a dark era I ask myself: has changed the core of the World?
Полностью описал что будет творится в России в 80-90 годах, вероятно не выученные уроки необходимо проходить снова и снова.
МОИ МЫСЛИ ТОЖЕ
То, что предначертано - не выучить. Можно и нужно быть готовым к "контрольной".... Читай последнюю главу библии... Ш
нитке ее прочёл... И пересказал... (Мое мнение)
Ищешь смыслы там, где их нет
Портняжка, подтяни глаголы! Твориться-это неопределённая форма, всегда-Ь! Плохо теперь учат в школе!
@@alexandratchepournova2867 у меня автоматическое исправление на клавиатуре, немного не уследишь ( и например, автоматическое исправление на не у следишь). Так бывает...
Holy shit, this is FILM MUSIC?
When I hear stuff like this, and compare it to the sadly very cliched stuff that film scores have become, it makes me wonder "Where are the film scores of yesteryear?"
Not to mention "Where are the good movies?" "Oh yet another remake or superhero movie." All I can say is stay the hell away from the typical Hollywood blockbuster fare. Look elsewhere.
All commerce now, sigh.
guys guys. don't cry it obbviously have the reason that todays entertainment is owned bt satanists. don't worry enjoy the good stuff.
Listen to Prokofiev's film music Aleksandr Nevsky! That is also a superb music.
Romanticka muzika prichazejici jako pohlazeni z poslední klidne chvile carske rodiny.
Soy argentino. No conocía a este compositor. Y me encanta. ¡A los 12.25 tiene un tango!
Эпитафия XX веку
:O great...
A bright mind and a deep heart.
So interesting to hear how he used ideas from the Waltz in his Piano Quintet.
He was one of the last great musical geniuses. An innovator. Time was cruelly against him. But he created wonderful work. It is always commitment music that makes you sit up, touches something deeply. I heard his music at the Proms, possibly early 90s. He came out after the work was played, looking extremely frail, acknowledging the huge clamour of Proms appreciation! Never to be forgotten.
I honestly think it's wrong to say: "one of the last" Exactly this is why great musicians only get discovered decades after their masterpieces are created.
Why was time agaist him? He worked very much in cinema and was well known .
@@florianstasch6435 simply meant, in scope seemed to belong to the "great composer" tradition. Meant nothing about the likelihood that many future generations will "discover" his work. They surely will.
@@ТатьянаГубина-и1и sorry didn't clarify, I meant due to his poor health - it's sad he died relatively young.
@@stuartgoodall7258 Yes, Mozart died still younger, alas!
It is interesting. I have seen from Wikipedia that Schnittke was a second generation "Russian" (Jew) as his father moved to Russia. Nevertheless his music seems to be profoundly influenced by Russian/Soviet music. I love it.
György Bánhegyi
, no wonder. he graduated from Moscow Conservatory. and his nationality has nothing to do with his profession
why did you have to put Russian in quotation ? because he was Jewish ?
you realise that's maybe anti-semitic ?
@@authenticbaguette6673 If you think me anti-semitic, you do not know me
@@authenticbaguette6673 it's totally not though
Wonderful music. Great composer! Thank you, Alfred Schnittke, RIP
This is a burlesque! What a fabulously composed piece of music.
That good ol tango haha schnittke will be schnittke!
never would've guessed "Schnittke" had I heard this on the radio!
Это Шедевр ......
Merci pour cette musique.
La Valse (4'33") est clairement inspirée de la valse de son quintette avec piano (ou son Requiem pour la version orchestrale).
Il s'agit en réalité d'un thème récurrent dans la musique de Schnittke. Un vrai Leitmotiv, retrouvable dans de très nombreux morceaux du compositeur, à travers l'entièreté de sa vie.
The tango at 9:46 gets reused and warped in the Concerto Grosso No. 1 of 1977, which worked because "Agoniya" was suppressed until the early 1980s for dumb Brezhnevian reasons.
Absolutely stunning music. I am in awe...
Spannende Interpretation dieses relativ melodischen Meisterwerks von Schnittke mit gut phrasierten und perfekt vereinigten Töne aller Instrumente. Der geniale Dirigent leitet das hoch funktionelle Orchester im ein bisschen bedrohlichen Tempo mit völlig effektiver Dynamik. Echt atemberaubend!
Genau
Thanks for the upload, this is fantastic!
Holy crap.
Holy crap.
Holy crap.
Holy crap.
Holy crap.
Holy crap.
I need to watch Агония.
❤
No conocía a este compositor. ¡Me fascina!
А кто Распутина играл? Почему имя артиста не озвучено? Музыка гениальная, фильм типа рядом прислонился. Но в данном фильме всё в комплекте идёт. Для меня Шнитке на первом месте, ну и хотелось бы узнать имя актёра Распутина.
Алексей Петренко гениально сыграл. Он жил в этой сложнейшей роли.
Благодарю вам
The film defines the composition, which is normal. Why Alfred Schnittke never re-arranged it as a symphony, it seems there is more than enough musical material and the structure is almost there. I remember the premier of the film, this music and the film now sound as nothing less than a prophesy - the prophesy of collapse, catastrophe.
He uses this in the last movement of his second cello concerto; and it’s much better than this version IMO
@@jellothrone3249 Let me find it. Not exactly the best listening before sleep.
"Eileitung" in the description should be altered to "Einleitung".
Schnittke is a genius. Stroble too.
Wonderful! and Beautiful!
Waltz straight up copies some parts of the 2nd mov of his Piano Quintet
15:58 панихида (тризна) по палачам!
Oh wow ! I'd never really listened to Schnittke but he has my attention now. The outer movements are mightily intense and captivating. The Waltz and Tango are reminiscent of Shostakovich's Jazz Suites, and good as they are, less memorable. The Tango seems to go on forever without much variation.
Schnittke was one of favorite students of Shostakovich, but certain influence you noticed is not only an impact of a mentor. The whole Soviet concert stage was dominated by great two: Shostakovich and Prokofiev. And not all among Soviet musicians liked it. In recent times, many began to question whether it was really good: the dominance of these two left several others in a shadow for too long. I like both of them Shostakovich and Prokofiev as well as Schnittke and Sveridov (both favorite students of Shostakovich) but there is some validity in challenging the two giants.
What a masterpiece
Танго шикарно!!!
Some nice Prokofiev waltzing echoes starting around 5:00
I STILL agree with me....4 years later....but from Acapulco......
550 likes and 1 dislike. Thats the best rated video I've ever seen.
*Don't jinx it*
Too late
21 dislikes now.
I am not sure why, I dislike his music...cant identity any polystylisticm from him
Great composer !
Thanks a lot
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