Key Factor Stopping You From Throwing Far in Disc Golf | Beginner Tips and Tricks
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- UA-cam can be a dark place for your confidence when it comes to disc golf. I've spent many hour-long sessions watching video after video on how to throw correctly, only to find that it barely seems to transfer out onto the field or course. This frustration can cause me to lose hope in not only my future within the game but honestly my hope in youtube in general.
With the number of coaches growing daily here on youtube, it can be tough to implement all of this advice into our game to try and get an edge on the competition. I wanted to take a moment to address something that rarely gets talked about when it comes to implementing form changes, especially when it comes to distance. What is the key factor holding you back? You'll have to watch to find out!!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:32 Setting the Table
2:19 The Problem
4:19 BIG NEWS!!!
5:11 Tip 1
5:48 Tip 2
7:19 Tip 3
8:20 Wrap Up
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Im just maybe starting to breech 300' now since my re-entry into the sport. Back in my super beginner days where everything was so wild and technique wasnt even on the radar, i was happy to maybe hit 180'-ish. Your channel has definitely helped to improve my physical and mental game overall
Dude I'm in the same boat! Played a ton in 2009-2010 then fell off until last summer, it's awesome how much better people understand form and instruction now!
Yes!! I started a WHILE ago but couldn't get it far to save my life. I had a thought to search it online and alas! Now I've been back in it and loving it
I dig that towel. Going to have to pick one up. I love how your logo isn’t just letters like 90% of the pros.
This was extremely helpful I am gonna get my wife to film me today but I've been looking for a way to take my max distance from 315 to the 400 range and for the first time I feel Ive found a video that really lays it out perfectly to me
Hi Robbie C Just wanted to say how much I enjoy all your videos. I'm 66 yrs. old , only been playing a year and I love this game. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you proved them wrong I've learned alot. By the way I just wanted to say I am the proud owner of the Robbie C Flight Towel JR. It is Great. Thanks again
My biggest lesson while learning has been just cause you think you know something doesn't mean you shouldn't investigate other perspectives to verify. Example: I watched Danny's drills video and did the water bottle drill (with a disc so I didn't break my fingers though) and was like, oh yeah, I am creating the snap I need here. Month or two later, came across Overthrow's Windmaker drill and completely skipped it because I thought "I do that part correctly." Well, decided to go back and watch that video about a week ago, turns out I am over rotating my shoulders and my 'whoosh' sound (i.e. release point) is way to far in front of my body 11 to 12ish instead of 10 o'clock. Now I am back at a standstill teaching myself this part all over again.
Keep this coming. I always get something new to apply to my game. The content you and others are creating helped me go from a +18 shooter to consistently playing for par in less than a year. Thank you!
UPDATE: It was amazing
I haven't even watched the video yet and I know this is gonna be 🔥
I’m gonna start watching more of this guy! A friend told me how I was leaning over and recommended this video. So much education in 9 minutes! Will definitely take a few steps back to incorporate real vs. feel. Thx Robbie!!
I think you nailed it with the "feel vs real", which will lead me to do what I have been actively avoiding and actually filming myself throwing...
Excellent advice Robbie. Thanks for taking the time to help us all become better disc golfers. 👍😁
Coach T from slingshot discgolf has helped me the most with pure distance. He does a great job breaking everything down. I just wish i had even more of his videos to watch lol
Robbie, this really is the best disc golf channel on youtube. Ive learned more, laughed, and related to so much of your content! No ego. No fluff. Just great stuff!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Good stuff!!
Thank you for always taking your time to help coach us in the right direction :D
Robbie, I’ve watched so many videos trying to improve my game. I’ve gotten form tips from all over YT. I started watching your content a few weeks back and the thing that stuck with me was the “Work from the basket-back”. I just started working on my putting and upshots extensively. I just left the course shooting my first clean round and I can thank the upshots and putting for that. You’re doing great things out here and I appreciate all of your content.
Robbie I've been playing disc golf for the last six months and your videos have helped so much. You always bring out awesome perspectives and help improve my game on the course and also in my head. Keep doing you bro! Birdie Fam in San Diego!
Thanks for another great video. Looking forward to taking some of these tips to the practice field.
I am a coach in my club and i really relate to everything Robbie says here. This is exactly how improvements are gained! Thank you for a great video!
You absolutely nailed it with this video Robbie! Everyone talks about and demos proper form but I think what is key is understanding the process and difficulties of changing your form at a subconscious level. Also cool to see the shout out to Danny. His content is also fire.
Love the concept, love the encouragement, love the videos. Don’t stop!
Bro, I have been playing a little over a year and I appreciate your videos very much. You have great energy, humor, and advise! Your videos are solid!!. Subconsciously and conscious, I know you have improved my game. Thank you! And the point that you sometimes take two steps back to take 3 steps forward is right on point. I think I am on step two of three on my way back. My last 2 rounds have seen significant improvement and the excitement of heading to the course has changed as well. Confident! Keep the videos,content coming!
Hahahaha the Frankenstein stage got me! Everytime I do field work I feel I'm in Frankenstein mode lmao til I get to the course and everything feels much better and SMOOTHER. You guys point out things I don't usually think of then I use that or change it and incorporate it into my routine. When I started a year ago I couldn't throw much more than 250ish but with these youtube cats I've used a lot of what you guys say and Frankenstein'ed myself to throw 400ft+ now but alot of time in fields and on the course.
Thus saying helped me understand
"Don't practice till you get it right, practice till you don't do it wrong."
Hands down THE best tip. Watched tons of instructional videos, and this has to be the most important one I ever seen
This was the video for me. Best video yet and most applicable. I'll start this tomorrow!
Awesome job Rob,😁. One of your best to date... thanks
Such a good video! I'll definitely need to rewatch this one.
Great video! Went out today and was frustrated that they things I watched and then tried to implement just weren't working! You have brought me back to earth and given me a path to hopefully make some of these improvements happen.
Great video man, I've watched alot of disc videos and this is just really well done and the explanations are great
Your videos help a ton. I’ve only been out 3 times to date. My first card was 37 over. I watched a few videos and spent a few hours building basic form. My second card was 17 over. My mind was opened by your videos.
Really like this format with you out on the course casually playing while talking to the camera, keep that up!
Great advice, and those flight towels look sick!
I really like the thought process of what it feels vs what it looks like. I can definitely relate to leaning over my disc and that to me it should feel like I’m leaning way back. Everything feels different to each person. So great perspective!
Massive respect for the channel & how your teach.
This video helped me a ton. Love the channel!
Absolutely love the channel. Great job and as soon as I can see grass again, I plan on trying out your tips. Snow disc golf seems to be a different game.
Robbie man I swear to God the timing of this video is perfect, I appreciate you so much and everything you said here is exactly what I needed to hear after a full week of working on form and film. It's motivational to know that even though this process feels like trying to eat soup with a fork, you and other channels are offering me a spoon. Thanks buddy!
well done!!! this is SUPER USEFUL!!!!
your videos are awesome bro and hilarious keep killing it!
Just found this channel recently and it has really been helpful improving my game!
Love the content, and my favorite new disc golf channel. Keep up the great work!
Thank You!!!
I used to play a bunch back in 2008-2011ish and had no idea what I was doing. The first time I tried backhand I went hard and pulled my shoulder completely out of the socket. So then I switched to fore-handing everything and actually got half decent with my longest ace being 201ft @ hole 15 Sedgley woods Philly. I always used 2 discs. I used a beaten Champion Valkyrie for everything but putts which I had a super beat Discraft Soft Challenger II in Elite-X plastic I think. I managed to get pretty good with controlling my angles for all kinds of shots with the Valkyrie. A few months back I finally started playing again being super careful about my shoulders and pages like yours have been a huge help getting me throwing properly and enjoying disc golf more than ever. Thanks! I actually have a decently consistent backhand and forehand now that I still have a ways to go on but I always say the better you become at a thing the more fun you'll have doing it:) Smooth and easy with proper form beats rushing and using power without it every time and it's great to not hurt yourself. When I'm having an off day I meditate and try again slowly and if I pull anything a little I stop immediately then take a short break before. Keep up the great work Robbie.
Love your new look! Thanks for a great vid!
You're hilarious, and your videos are great. I'm a new beginner, doing my best to implement tips from your videos. I've got a long way to go, but absolutely love this sport already. Thanks for your efforts. Time to go throw some discs.
Thanks for the tips coach!
another great video, thanks robbie.
Good tips! The camera breakdown is such an overlooked strategy, yet the most effective way of getting accurate feedback and visualizing the throw from the perspective you are used to learning it from. I'd recommend going out and recording at least 10 throws in a row, this tends to iron out any of those subconscious adjustments you make because you know you are being filmed.
Been around 325 for a bit now. Definitely gonna use these tips! Love the videos and keep it up!!
Thanks Robbie love the vids. My son and I are new to the sport and love watching your content. Wish I could find a coach in the Knoxville area but have not as of yet.
Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Love this video! I gotta figure out the no step throw and go from there! Brand new to the sport!
Robbie C, another great video. One of the most difficult things to do is to do the field work if you want to get better. I am like, "Hey, I live near a disc golf course, I will just play a bunch of holes and get better there. In some ways, it can help to get lower scores, because you are figuring out which lines fit with the best disc for each shot. Rarely does improvement transfer over to another disc golf course because each hole is different in layout, distance, etc.
This is great! Thank you.
i just really enjoy watching you man. substance or not it's always bueno!
I can really relate to this video. My "feel" made me think I had fixed my high reachback but then I brought a tripod to the field and filmed myself. What was "real" was I still was going to my upper left deltoid on my RHBH . I've done several sessions and realize my elbow is too low and my swing is not on the Plane of Play. I currently throw a random 310' and hope that fixing the off-plane swing will get me more consistency and distance.
Great video !!
Great Tips and will try this.
I recently subscribed and have found your videos very helpful. Thank you.
Dude that is a super important thing to point out. I have the opposite problem going into an arched back when throwing. When I tried to fix it the first time it felt like my nose was almost touching the ground. In reality though the changes were minimal. I also struggle with the length of my x-step. I even trief shuffle stepping and even though I felt like I was doing a shuffle step, it still was a big x-step. Feeling the "change" and seeing the lack thereof is very weird and very frustrating. Really happy to hear that leaning into the opposite extrem worked for you and is more possible than it feels.
3:51 Wow. Very well articulated. Ive been trying to figure out how to put those two ideas together for a long time. I think getting "into a groove" or being "In the zone" has to do with letting go of the executive action thoughts and letting your practice come through as more subconscious actions. Thank you! Very important stuff to think about
Great vid! Keep it up
I have not found a reason tosave too many videos but found this useful and saved it . Thanks
great job! great way to record and go through it all
Such a great video.
You really explained the value in video taping your form. I have only done it twice. I think I'm going to make a it a regular thing now. Like after every few days of field work.
Thanks for the video! Started throwing 100ft farther after watching this. And I haven’t even set the phone down to go out a throw! 😎😂 (actually still working on getting 300 consistently)
Robbie you're talking a lot of sense. thanks for the support and tips. I will try some of these in the dark in glowie. there are no trees if you cant see them!
Robbie C for president!!
I don't ever really comment on UA-cam videos but I loved this video so much that I just had to let you know! This video is just so "real" for my game right now.
Well Thank You for the kind words!! Glad to hear it resonated!!
I just started playing this summer and I have yet to consistently break 300’. A new wooded pitch and put course went in right before the new year and I have been playing that putters only. I have basically gone all the way back to a standstill. Thanks for the video. Great content.
Great video thanks
Awesome to see your progression man. Played a round with you my wife and Zach B at Invernis over a yr ago. Keep it up bro
Wow!! Feels like that was a lifetime ago!!
Thank you Robbie
I get so bogged down in the tiny details of changing stuff that I forget it's about relaxing and enjoying the sport and not take ourselves to seriously...Thank you soo much Robbie for the mental side of this game of which I am learning is 80% of it for me....it's ALWAYS been a struggle to get my body to do stuff (NOT athletic at all)...so LOVE the tips for the head space! Keep it up brothah!
Thanks for the tops dude. I am new and I suck at disc golf but plan to get better.
The part about exaggerating the correction is gold. This vid reminded me of that. Went out today with the goal of exaggerating standing taller and...boom...a couple adjustments later, got some longer shots. Thanks for the reminder!
Love this video. One thing that you didn’t touch on that I think is a great note, is that as you introduce a different form, your disc are going to fly differently than you remember them flying. This was an issue for me when correcting my form. But don’t be discouraged. You have to in a sense “re-learn” your bag when you “re-learn” form or introduce something new. Great content Robbie! Keep it up!
Best video on the internet!
you are a very natural teacher
Great video bro
When I was watching videos today, I felt like my throws were getting better just practicing my form, but then went I went to a small course, my throws were suddenly really bad. After watching this I now realize that I probably wasn't actively trying to make my throws better (like the ones I did at home), but I was just doing what I thought was the right adjustment for my form. This really helped me be more proactive in my form, thanks!
Helpful, thanks.
Great stuff as usual thanks Robbie! Now if I could only do it for real!
Well I am gonna get my friend to film my form thanks for the great ideas Robbie
I just got done with a feild session and recorded my throws. I sat down and looked at it slowed down and realized the biggest thing I messed up was the separation between my feet on my throw. I really need to separate my legs more and I can't wait to try it out
Good stuff here - if we want to get better, we must change and put in the time to groove the change into the game
I got my first set of discs so long ago I cannot remember. Maybe 2008??? It came with a sweet instructional DVD that was useless. I did not improve until last summer when I got back into this and found y’all. Gaining distance and accuracy daily. 🎉
I dig your sense of humor. The content is good, too.
Started when I was 11-12 back in the late 2000's for about 3 years before I stopped, biggest thing that helped me than was not being afraid to ask way better players for advice, out of all the sports and hobbies I've had disc golfers are definitely the most chill and laid-back people
This is so good!
Effectiveness > Efficiency
"Trying to shortcut the process to excellence" Well said! We are in such a hurry to get better that we are easily distracted by the siren song of "Quick fixes" and overnight greatness. Excellence takes time and continual effort. If there was an easier way... every would be awesome! :D Good video Robbie!
You are my hero Pete
I’m 63 and was an athlete in sports in high school and college. This is the first time to see this channel and will come back. I’ve only been playing a few years. I just watched others that could throw far and I tried to copy their form. I started with the one step but as I tried to do the run up I couldn’t throw any further. After watching this I realized I forgot the feel vs real that I learned in golf tennis etc. How could I have forgotten this. Great insight I needed to be reminded of. Got to go get my video going. I’ll be back. Thanks. 😎
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for checking it out, and hope the video work you’re moving towards is enlightening!
Thanks for the encouragement. Looking forward to incorporating the Feel into Real. Plus your presentation of the information makes it fun. Thanks 😎
best disc golf teacher
I have the same Braves shirt it also helps with my game. Seriously though I’ve been playing on/off for about 14 years and it’s definitely tougher to get rid of bad habits than starting with a good foundation. I’m still having to tweak my form just from the sheer amount of resources out there now.
The timing of this video couldn't be better. Been working with a coach and have changed up two or three things in my form (real) but its actually 20-30 things about form (feel). Anyway everything has felt super janky, but the proof is in the puddin' sauce. In the last three days i smoked a buddy i haven't beat before (he's my go to playing partner), shot three strokes under my best at the local course and recorded a throw that went 60' further than my previous record. Stoked, I sent a video to my coach and I'm still clearly doing the thing that is limiting my distance and accuracy. Just goes to show that though my efforts and focus just to get those minor, visually imperceptible changes have already resulted in slight improvements. Once the form clearly changes I'll likely be able to compete on a level I'm happy with and of course enjoy the game so much more. Happy improving friends!
Great video, Robbie! This one speaks a lot to me because I've been telling my friends that my problem is that I feel "disconnected" so I often can't even tell what I'm doing wrong - or what I'm doing right. So did I accidentally throw that disc well, or did I have enough good form elements to make that happen? I can't tell. So I can't even "feel" what I'm doing, much less know what's real. This video encapsulates that problem perfectly. Sometimes what you feel doesn't match what's real, but often for players like me, we can't even get the "feel" in the first place. There's a mind-muscle connection in bodybuilding. I believe that's the case in all sports.
THIS. I do field work and think I'm making a correction, only to go watch a recorded throw and be like....WTF. I hate my backhand form, and no matter how much I think or "feel" I'm making a correction it never seems to substantially change. I only started playing 3 years ago but apparently bad form has become so ingrained I need to start over from a stand still. Also, the idea of going to an extreme is interesting, maybe will have to try that. Great video!
theres a weird balance between mimicking good form and making a point to get a feel for said good form. What I would recommend is you purposefully shank a few shots in practice (super nose up, hyzer, anny, grip lock, bad foot work, fly your hips open early, fly your shoulders early and leave your hips behind, etc) to get a feel for what each mistake feels like so you can start to understand which mistakes you're making. Otherwise, it takes a while to get a feel for what you messed up on.
edit: obviously don't do this long enough to make bad habits, but enough that you know how it feels to make some of these mistakes. Also try and get a feel as best you can for a smooth reachback and pull, this has been the most helpful for me. Exaggerate the power pocket, it almost feels like you're pulling in a shallow V shape if you are looking top-down
Real vs. feel is great advice. Found this out when trying to reach back further. FELT like a Jenn Allen reach back. On film it was barely past my ribs. :D
Bought a 20$ camera stand that holds a cell phone. When I recorded my self and saw what I was doing and made tweaks literally changed 2 things and went from 345 ' to 415' according to udisc app in only a month .. that meant a lot to me because now the 345 shots took less effort and were more accurate. Awesome video it's pure truth 👌
Tbh this video really helped me get the motivation to start working on improving my form and to put in the time to improve. I’ve always have watched videos on how to get more distance but I would then try those things out on the disc golf course and I was like “yah that didn’t work for me” and would proceed to doing what I thought was correct. I’ve actually have gotten worse in the last 3 months(mainly cuz I’ve only played like 3 rounds) but I used to throw it like 260ft and now I can barely throw 200-225 ft it’s crazy how things works 😁 now I just gotta put in the time to throw farther
“You can leave…. Literally any time you want” I’m dying hahaha
You just helped me big when you where explaining how the guy always threw a hizer I couldn't figure it out I didn't realize I was leaning over to much
Feel vs real is an old golf aphorism that butch Harmon and tiger woods used in the 90s. They talked about on their golf central segments from back then. It's a great saying nonetheless! Great content as usual.