We can see a person's character from the way he speaks, his expressions, his body language, etc. Go, Carlos! Prove to the world of your innocent and regain your reputation, which to some people is more valuable than life!
I remember joining MWC conference and Carlos Ghosn speaking about the Leaf being the highest selling EV at the time. He was a strong and outspoken EV believer and supporter even as far back as very early 2010s.
And Nissan completely stopped advancing their EV technology after he was ousted. The 10 years following the first Leaf the underlying technology stayed the same as others leap frog Nissan. What a shame.
Great interview and props to Ghosn for taking everything and still having the will to move forward. He is a strong man for speaking openly about these topics
The fact that he is still appearing in interviews only to clear his name even though he is not in danger anymore confirms his innocence from the Japanese charges for me.
The fact that the Japanese didn't reply with a single word on him expect things like "respect the justice and go back to Japan" proves he is innocent even more
So glad to see that Carlos Ghosn is able to still get his message out to share with the world. What happened to him was a crime. Only a man as smart and as shrewd as Ghosn could've orchestrated his escape from unjust persecution by the Japanese. Carlos - cheers to you! You accomplished so much and I for one am so glad that you are able to live a good life in Lebanon!
one of the best interviews with carlos fantastic the interviewer really totally professional i am impressed i love carlos he is so precise and to the point wunderbar nrilliant
Carlos Ghosn realized when he was CEO that the market was moving towards electric power and that Elon Musk was right and Carlos wanted to go all electric with Renault-Nissan but they were affraid of going all electric and got rid of Carlos.
The move to EV has been known for over a decade… If you think that was the sole reason for going through the lengths that they did to prosecute him, you should stick to lifting.
Carlos is clearly at his core a civil servant. He is serving the public not exactly himself. He has an aura of employee rather than an emperor. So please people come on! He is not stupid. He wants to be remunarated, financially compensated. It is his right.
Do you think it's normal he uses Nissan's money to buy himself a yacht?? And what about the house in beirut where he used to claim it's a company property? He should give it back!
@@justsomeguywithamoustachea2712 "hard earned", and yet secretly hiding under fake offshore companies where the end beneficiary is his.. SON! You are so naive and if you are lebanese, then you deserve the shitty situation in your country - all those "smart" corrupt politicians have destroyed it!!
Japanese justice system is crazy corrupt. Once they set their sights on you, the confession rate is over 95%. And hold you for months without formal trial or charges
It’s a difficult conjecture for me. I loved Ghosn for actively supporting and bringing out the GTR. I despised Ghosn for cutting costs for volume cars and making them cheaper built(especially those unreliable CVTs) I loved Ghosn for keeping the leaf project alive(The only better option then). G-Wiz was so unsafe! I despised Ghosn for merging Renault-Nissan with Mitsubishi. Looking back. All the things I loved above have lost money for the alliance. While all the things I despised have kept the companies afloat. Hell, even profitable. We have all seen CEOs do a lot worse and get away with it. Question though is… Let’s say Ghosn did underreport his compensation and that he did buy/use company property and resources for his personal benefit. Does the above outweigh all the things he has done to keep the alliance profitable and stock holders happy? I definitely DO NOT think so…. This is just an Automotive Engineer venting out his frustrations. All opinions are my own and do not reflect the views of the organization(s) I work for.
That is not the real question, the real questions are "Why have they decided to prosecute and charge him for something so small that could have been solved in board meeting?" , "And why did they do it now?"...if you follow these trails you will find the real answers to the real questions
This interview is absolutely epic! Ghosn’s command is seismic. The interviewer is no hack, believe it or not. Her delivery shifts gears faster than a one armed man in a bra factory.
And she has asked all the relevant questions from geo-politics to world economics, automobile industry, Lebanon situation and Ghosn's personal situation. She was outstanding!
for people talking about RULE OF LAW, US is strangely silent on this case. This is a clear violation of human rights, respect for human dignity and Code of Conduct of a state.
you're a joke. Japan never said he is guilty. Even USA does the same method when they investigate suspects it's the method a lot of investigators take. "you did this didn't you? We know u did this so tell us from your mouth" ever heard this?
Carlos Ghosn and Greg Kelly are the reason highly educated European and American executive stay away from leadership role in Japan. In this case when you have an genius executive going after the #1 Toyota and the #2 Honda Auto industry in Japan... Shame on France for not fighting for Carlos!
Carlos Ghosn I always admired you, you are the only person who has achieved success in a logical and realistic way He is an authentic person by nature and nothing in this life changes him Elon Musk is just a rumor salesman. You are successful. Ironically, he is successful now and you are wanted for justice. We are in a sick time unfortunately. I am very happy when I see you in good health and excellent psychological after all that happened to you from shocks and strong blows Carlos, you are a beautiful being in every detail and you are a successful person I am loved and lucky that you have a wife and a family that loves you and some loyal friends. I am from Jordan and how much I wish to meet you and learn a lot from you. Thank you Carlos
It's more that meets the eye in what he says. When CEO of Renault it's true their profit increases by about 60% but not by being better but rather by laying off employees. The other thing he did was he paid the dealers such big bonuses that the dealers were buying the cars themselves without selling any. It's not that rosy with this guy and maybe the Japanese have realized that.
Great interview. Carlos i may you a come back in one of the top car companies leading a transition to the elecric Vehicles. I m sorry of what happened to you in Japan...We need administrators like you in my country. I send you good vibes in your fight
I haven't read all the comments below. But, I really think that Ghosn-san's decisions and actions were right! It was really good for him and I could say that it was the only way for him to survive from the situation no matter any other people say because I am 100% sure that people who complain about his actions don't understand the real Japan which is nearly invisible from most people including many Japaneses and most foreigners. Needless to say, there are no fair judgements in Japan, and I guess he could have mental disorder if he didn't escape from Japan though I have no idea what was happened to him if he was not a famouse person. I am a Japanese and I have been worked in various global companies in Japan standing between Japan and other countries after I lived in US for 10 years. So, I could tell how much Japan is weired and different from other countries and a terrible country. I can tell that Japan is the furtherst country from the global world ,in short. On the other hand, I understand that there are many chances for foreigners to start or run businesses in Japan. But, I really recommend to make sure they have some ways to leave immediately from Japan if something goes wrong or some mothods to be able to get good supports to get out of troubles in Japan. I really hope that Ghosn-san will get the fair justice soon, and I really hope that he will run some businesses or work in some companies because I could tell that he is very smart person and has all necessary skills as management though I don't know his personality. On the other hand, I am very sorry that not only Ghosn-san but also many smart and skillful people are leaving and left from Japan. I hope I could work outside of Japan in the near future.
@@khaledb6580 you know, it will never change. if it changes all wrongful arrests will have to be compensated. remember the kamikaze planes, japan management goes to hell with the decision made, even discovering that these decisions were wrong. japan is a country that never accepts change. the only change it had, because after the American nuclear attack, and it only changed because of the nuclear attack. confirm with this japan will never change.
We must not forget that this man, CEO of a large company, had an employee contract. Although he had the ability to improve the economic situation of the brand, then of the group he managed, his spending attitude made people think that he owned it, which was in no way the case. He was accountable for every euro spent. This is why he was punished. The rest is just window dressing.
Ms Hadley Gamble, most probably, could do a great movie actress. Speaking on the topic, Carlos Ghosn, no matter how personally greedy he is, he is the one who saved Nissan 20 + years ago. I've lived in Japan from 1998 for about 20 years and have been seeing this development from inside. And comments about Japanese justice system are mostly true. Once you are deteriorating from category of "obedient", then punishments could be really stiff.
Didn't some western ex special forces guys get set down in Japan for it? The Japanese government must have been really throwing their toys out the pram.
I hope, but am sure Carlos has identified the parallel between his treatment by Nissan and that of Octav Botnar, after he challenged their decision to terminate his UK distribution agreement.
The french ditched him in the first place and that is the main reason this guy finds himself in this situation. The price you pay as an outsider upsetting the existing order.
I have admired him as a brilliant businessman for years. That's how a leader sounds, Unfortunately the quagmire and obfuscation of politics is not for someone like Carlos.
Everyday this man is not governing or managing something is a waste of his life and a waste to the world. All because of envy from some office politics.
Yes...She is very selective. Watch her interview with other Middle East leaders especially those who are not in tune with the West. WOW! Ambush journalism at its best! She is definitely Not a 'Kelly Evans" material!
What a grest interview. Carlos is a genius and clearly states his point. The quality of the journalist also helped a lot to pass a clear message.
Com certeza
He will say that Trump turn the US government similar to Japan once he decides to become the CEO of Boeing.
We can see a person's character from the way he speaks, his expressions, his body language, etc. Go, Carlos! Prove to the world of your innocent and regain your reputation, which to some people is more valuable than life!
this man is national treasure , hope Lebanon goverment can get help from such man he is so smart
Very smart man. Never got a chance to actually meet him when I worked at Nissan, but saw him many times when he came to visit.
You are so lucky to see him :)
@@khaledbenrhouma6653 He's a real smart guy.
Superb interview. Learned about car industry, Lebanon and leadership qualities. It was like a mini masterclass.
Very smart guy and has enough money he never has to do anything unless he wants to.
Carlos will always be a legend.
a legend scammer
Japanese don’t have clue for him
@@factsmatter6980
ENOUGH
@@factsmatter6980 media believer
The most inteligent man on the planet
A great interview. Both of them are outstanding and Carlos speaks to the heart.
I remember joining MWC conference and Carlos Ghosn speaking about the Leaf being the highest selling EV at the time. He was a strong and outspoken EV believer and supporter even as far back as very early 2010s.
And Nissan completely stopped advancing their EV technology after he was ousted. The 10 years following the first Leaf the underlying technology stayed the same as others leap frog Nissan. What a shame.
YES AND HES AN OUTSPOKEN THEIF
🤑
Great interview and props to Ghosn for taking everything and still having the will to move forward. He is a strong man for speaking openly about these topics
That would be fun if this guy was to become Lebanon’s president. Never underestimate the power of loosing face.
The fact that he is still appearing in interviews only to clear his name even though he is not in danger anymore confirms his innocence from the Japanese charges for me.
The fact that the Japanese didn't reply with a single word on him expect things like "respect the justice and go back to Japan" proves he is innocent even more
I believe Japan & France should appreciate what he had achieved to Nissan & Renault.
Carlos Ghosn an absolute legend in my books
So glad to see that Carlos Ghosn is able to still get his message out to share with the world. What happened to him was a crime. Only a man as smart and as shrewd as Ghosn could've orchestrated his escape from unjust persecution by the Japanese. Carlos - cheers to you! You accomplished so much and I for one am so glad that you are able to live a good life in Lebanon!
He’s a crook, f him
I admire him a lot
Fabulous interview! Keeping fighting Carlos :) - We need more of these business leaders!
No thanks he a corrupt MF! 😂🤣 Don't be fooled by people wearing suits. 😂
one of the best interviews with carlos fantastic the interviewer really totally professional i am impressed i love carlos he is so precise and to the point wunderbar nrilliant
Je suis un algérien et je soutiens profondément Carlos Ghosn !!!
Great man. Sounds to me he should be the man to restructure his homeland.
Carlos Ghosn realized when he was CEO that the market was moving towards electric power and that Elon Musk was right and Carlos wanted to go all electric with Renault-Nissan but they were affraid of going all electric and got rid of Carlos.
The move to EV has been known for over a decade… If you think that was the sole reason for going through the lengths that they did to prosecute him, you should stick to lifting.
Why spew lies? The man was corrupt he was stealing money under the table
Great interview, I'm with you Mr. Ghosn!!, by the way, beautiful interviewer!!
Carlos is clearly at his core a civil servant. He is serving the public not exactly himself. He has an aura of employee rather than an emperor. So please people come on! He is not stupid. He wants to be remunarated, financially compensated. It is his right.
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Do you think it's normal he uses Nissan's money to buy himself a yacht??
And what about the house in beirut where he used to claim it's a company property? He should give it back!
@@mmenmg u mean he uses his hard earned money from being the ceo of 3 companies at once
@@justsomeguywithamoustachea2712 "hard earned", and yet secretly hiding under fake offshore companies where the end beneficiary is his.. SON!
You are so naive and if you are lebanese, then you deserve the shitty situation in your country - all those "smart" corrupt politicians have destroyed it!!
@@justsomeguywithamoustachea2712 hard earned stolen money? You lebanese people have no moral compass when it comes to money.
Imagine such a rare brilliant mind being locked in jail for life with hard seasoned criminals simply because he threw a corporate lavish party.
Which is why I believe this was due to the Japanese ego they. Couldn't stomach the company being taken over/run by the French
A brilliant mind. The world needs more freedom and justice.
A corrupt mind i would say. No wonder arab countries are so fucked up!
I look forward to hearing about the huge lawsuit against Nissan and Renault
Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow. It empties today of its strength. ⭐
I really like the interviewer
Hope the justice will be served to you before too long. You're a courageous and super inspirational business leader. Good luck with you!
Japanese justice system is crazy corrupt. Once they set their sights on you, the confession rate is over 95%. And hold you for months without formal trial or charges
oompa loompa
Ur gov was racist to him
Excellent interview. Thank you.
It’s a difficult conjecture for me.
I loved Ghosn for actively supporting and bringing out the GTR.
I despised Ghosn for cutting costs for volume cars and making them cheaper built(especially those unreliable CVTs)
I loved Ghosn for keeping the leaf project alive(The only better option then). G-Wiz was so unsafe!
I despised Ghosn for merging Renault-Nissan with Mitsubishi.
Looking back. All the things I loved above have lost money for the alliance. While all the things I despised have kept the companies afloat. Hell, even profitable.
We have all seen CEOs do a lot worse and get away with it.
Question though is… Let’s say Ghosn did underreport his compensation and that he did buy/use company property and resources for his personal benefit. Does the above outweigh all the things he has done to keep the alliance profitable and stock holders happy?
I definitely DO NOT think so….
This is just an Automotive Engineer venting out his frustrations. All opinions are my own and do not reflect the views of the organization(s) I work for.
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That is not the real question, the real questions are "Why have they decided to prosecute and charge him for something so small that could have been solved in board meeting?" , "And why did they do it now?"...if you follow these trails you will find the real answers to the real questions
Even if said charges are true, the way the Japanese went about prosecuting him is absolutely despicable
Stealing a cent is the same as stealing a billion. A thief is a thief and when he has the change he will embezzle more
He brought more plastic into Nissans and started the slow decline of the Nissan Patrol Safari. For this I despise him.
Scaping Japan was so clever. He had a clear understanding of Japan. Carlos had fantastic support team around him and that is what I call to be lucky.
The French prosecutor's office has issued an interpol notice.
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@@荒井まめ-m6e he won’t leave his shithole country. He’s safe in Lebanon he bribed the corrupt puppet lebanese president
Good man, didn’t deserve what was, and is being, done to him. Neither Nissan nor Renault deserve our business.
This interview is absolutely epic! Ghosn’s command is seismic. The interviewer is no hack, believe it or not. Her delivery shifts gears faster than a one armed man in a bra factory.
This comment is in high gear. I didn't get it, I'm in low gear!
And she has asked all the relevant questions from geo-politics to world economics, automobile industry, Lebanon situation and Ghosn's personal situation. She was outstanding!
for people talking about RULE OF LAW,
US is strangely silent on this case.
This is a clear violation of human rights, respect for human dignity and Code of Conduct of a state.
Japan Is like China and Russia, you are guilty at time of arrest and you have to prove your own innocence...what a joke
You mean like how the West treated Julian Assange?
you're a joke. Japan never said he is guilty. Even USA does the same method when they investigate suspects it's the method a lot of investigators take. "you did this didn't you? We know u did this so tell us from your mouth" ever heard this?
jep true, in japan they can legal interrogate you 3weeks long without your lawyor presents..of course you confess to anything sooner or later.
@@KMuse99 I'm not aware of Carlos ever being charged with rape.
@@geoffbeach7165 It was an accusation he was never charged. All cases were dropped. Nice try.
My Nissan needed a starter replacement, how about that ?
I wish some of you would show the same compassion for uneducated car robbers.
The journalist lost her plot. He said what he did free of complicated questions.
Exactly! She only uses ambush journalism for those who disagree with her point of view. Probably, Ghosn was in her good book!
Excellent interview. Very impressed!
Great interview by Hadley Gamble, allowing Carlos to speak. And the French/Japanese wanted this visionary leader out.........madness.
This guy did a 'Catch me if you can' with the Japanese. Guilty or innocent, the legendariness of this man can't be denied.
21:35 Great common sense. Well done!
Best analysis of revolutions identified chronologically as agricultural, industrial, informational, to artificial intelligences I’ve ever heard.
Great interview 👏🏻
The Japanese legal system is completely bizarre. I don't blame this guy at all for dodging it.
I respect Carlos he seems really intelligent, I hope he gets a fear trial
An intelligent thief
Death by snu snu fear
Ms. Gamble did a stellar job in this interview👏!
@Asad Haider negative. Says Hadley Gamble at the discribtion of the interview..
"I diluted Nissan's reputation in pursuit of short term cheap profits. The company was saved but all I did was kick the can down the road." -Ghosn
Ghosn led the company for almost two decades. There was nothing "short term" about this.
The Can That He Kicked Was NASSAR' car which doesn't compare to SAAB corporations his truthful career beginnings * S.A.A.B *
That guy is a very smart guy
I like this guy. He is honest what he thought
This man is a treasure and very genious
Carlos Ghosn and Greg Kelly are the reason highly educated European and American executive stay away from leadership role in Japan. In this case when you have an genius executive going after the #1 Toyota and the #2 Honda Auto industry in Japan... Shame on France for not fighting for Carlos!
criminal
@@dark6c159
YOU are the criminal
Carlos Ghosn I always admired you, you are the only person who has achieved success in a logical and realistic way
He is an authentic person by nature and nothing in this life changes him
Elon Musk is just a rumor salesman. You are successful. Ironically, he is successful now and you are wanted for justice. We are in a sick time unfortunately. I am very happy when I see you in good health and excellent psychological after all that happened to you from shocks and strong blows
Carlos, you are a beautiful being in every detail and you are a successful person
I am loved and lucky that you have a wife and a family that loves you and some loyal friends. I am from Jordan and how much I wish to meet you and learn a lot from you. Thank you Carlos
This is a bad dude. I love Mr. Ghosn!
Why doesn't he go to Brazil? As a Brazilian citizen he can't be extradited according to the constitution. Is it the same in Lebanon?
Yes, I think it's the same in Lebanon.
@@sami23alarabi that explains
It's more that meets the eye in what he says. When CEO of Renault it's true their profit increases by about 60% but not by being better but rather by laying off employees.
The other thing he did was he paid the dealers such big bonuses that the dealers were buying the cars themselves without selling any.
It's not that rosy with this guy and maybe the Japanese have realized that.
quite a discovery EINSTEIN!
Well, this was a really impressive interview.
Great interview. Carlos i may you a come back in one of the top car companies leading a transition to the elecric Vehicles. I m sorry of what happened to you in Japan...We need administrators like you in my country. I send you good vibes in your fight
Great intelligent interview.
She certainly did not ask the hard questions
You mean stupid question.
@@bgg3046 Yes, somehow her questions were tame and you could qualify them as stupid
Where is he hiding?
Extraordinary interview, i think Argentinian Government, legislative and justice body must listen about central command, wonderful MasterClass
Had Carlos Ghosn remained in his position, Nissan and Renault would've been competing with Tesla
I haven't read all the comments below. But, I really think that Ghosn-san's decisions and actions were right! It was really good for him and I could say that it was the only way for him to survive from the situation no matter any other people say because I am 100% sure that people who complain about his actions don't understand the real Japan which is nearly invisible from most people including many Japaneses and most foreigners. Needless to say, there are no fair judgements in Japan, and I guess he could have mental disorder if he didn't escape from Japan though I have no idea what was happened to him if he was not a famouse person. I am a Japanese and I have been worked in various global companies in Japan standing between Japan and other countries after I lived in US for 10 years. So, I could tell how much Japan is weired and different from other countries and a terrible country. I can tell that Japan is the furtherst country from the global world ,in short. On the other hand, I understand that there are many chances for foreigners to start or run businesses in Japan. But, I really recommend to make sure they have some ways to leave immediately from Japan if something goes wrong or some mothods to be able to get good supports to get out of troubles in Japan. I really hope that Ghosn-san will get the fair justice soon, and I really hope that he will run some businesses or work in some companies because I could tell that he is very smart person and has all necessary skills as management though I don't know his personality. On the other hand, I am very sorry that not only Ghosn-san but also many smart and skillful people are leaving and left from Japan. I hope I could work outside of Japan in the near future.
Thank you for your honesty, I love Japan but I hate injustice, I hope Japan system will change from the inside
@@khaledb6580 you know, it will never change. if it changes all wrongful arrests will have to be compensated. remember the kamikaze planes, japan management goes to hell with the decision made, even discovering that these decisions were wrong. japan is a country that never accepts change. the only change it had, because after the American nuclear attack, and it only changed because of the nuclear attack. confirm with this japan will never change.
Anyone with a brain would have escaped from Japan given the 99 percent prosecution rate, guilty or not.
Fascinating interview he has some really interesting insights into the automobile industry
99.4 success rate. Japan is a no go zone
Hadley Gamble and her team gave a master class in how to interview and get the full story.
I can’t forgive you for putting all that CVT in Nissan products.
He nailed it again! Bravo Carlos… (that journalist is HOT! Phew!)
Phew, her husband is ready to clean your clock.... Nice knowing you PanosP.94
@@bobrossopinions lol !
I would love to take that Gamble to a casino in Monaco
Id like to see Carlos bring this to the ICC. Lets see what happens.
We must not forget that this man, CEO of a large company, had an employee contract. Although he had the ability to improve the economic situation of the brand, then of the group he managed, his spending attitude made people think that he owned it, which was in no way the case. He was accountable for every euro spent. This is why he was punished. The rest is just window dressing.
Ms Hadley Gamble, most probably, could do a great movie actress.
Speaking on the topic, Carlos Ghosn, no matter how personally greedy he is, he is the one who saved Nissan 20 + years ago. I've lived in Japan from 1998 for about 20 years and have been seeing this development from inside. And comments about Japanese justice system are mostly true. Once you are deteriorating from category of "obedient", then punishments could be really stiff.
Yup...She is selective. Watch her interview with other Middle East leaders especially those who are not in tune with the West.
I am in belgium am guilty until i am proven innocent
Acharnement = recklessness
Sables mouvants= quicksand
Le meilleur! 🇫🇷♥️
could you come back to the USA? Michelin North America was very fortunate to have your leadership!
CARLOS IS A CHEAP THIEF .NOT MATTER IF HE IS A BRILLIANT, HE IS A THIEF ! FROM THIS JUSTICE HE ESCAPE FROM FROM BUT THE DIVINE ONE HE CANNOT!
He deserves the money these prosecutors alleged Ghosn "stole". Look at how Ghosn revamped Nissan during its hey day on the brink of bankruptcy.
You’re seriously smoking crack
The smirk on that woman's face.
They say about 50 people helped him escape, that means there must have been help at the airports as well ahead of time I'm guessing.
Didn't some western ex special forces guys get set down in Japan for it? The Japanese government must have been really throwing their toys out the pram.
@@BreezyE-d3n ya that's what I heard too. Pram?
@@carlf.9035 kicking up a fuss
@@BreezyE-d3n British??
@@carlf.9035 citizen of the world mate
I hope, but am sure Carlos has identified the parallel between his treatment by Nissan and that of Octav Botnar, after he challenged their decision to terminate his UK distribution agreement.
He is a genius guy
Fascinating story. Good luck Carlos!
She seems biased towards Mr. Ghosen
The french ditched him in the first place and that is the main reason this guy finds himself in this situation. The price you pay as an outsider upsetting the existing order.
France had to ditch him, or ditch Renault's 43% share in Nissan.
Hadley Gamble did a stellar job. 🎉
I have admired him as a brilliant businessman for years. That's how a leader sounds, Unfortunately the quagmire and obfuscation of politics is not for someone like Carlos.
Everyday this man is not governing or managing something is a waste of his life and a waste to the world. All because of envy from some office politics.
The truth is, watch Nissan sink slowly, but surely, since he has been gone
I support carlos
What is the common thing between jose mourinho and Carlos Ghosn ?
Awesome interview. I will have to study his comments. Unicity of command and AI not the end of humanity.
Carlos Ghosn, PRÉSIDENT!!!
This guy looks like charlie chan in the old hollywood movie
The French system betrayed him, thank god for his safety
Long live Carlos Ghosn.
You are a great man!!
We support you all the way.
From: Japan
she was super kind with him, maybe playing safe as she's in Lebanon lol
Yeah he bribed the puppet president
Yes...She is very selective. Watch her interview with other Middle East leaders especially those who are not in tune with the West. WOW! Ambush journalism at its best! She is definitely Not a 'Kelly Evans" material!
Interesting interview. Enjoy listening to Carlos . Well done !