This is similar to what we used to have here in the United States, down to the red ball despite the other two lights being arrows. The main difference is that the red+yellow combination before green is not allowed here-light go from red directly to green. Now most new installations implement red arrows, but the red ball is still allowed for situations where you want to allow right turns on red (most states ban turning on a red arrow).
Definitely need to be used more too I think, that and the Cardiff example (assuming they still do it there) where the right turn lights go out when the main green light is on.
I dont understand why we dont have more of this, the concept is so simple and it makes it so much easier to understand. To often I find junctions are littered with signals dotted all over the place You can't tell which ones are turning signals or normal signals. The USA has been using green, and yellow arrows for well over 30 years now, and the last 15 years slowly phasing in red arrows too. We need to start doing the same with our in England!
Well, if it wasn't for new LED technology replacing the older technology, we would've had our inteligent amber arrow traffic lights being rolled out across the uk instead of just at the original trial sites....
There will be some ancient road traffic acts and/or regulations stopping us from using arrow lights for anything but green, unfortunately. The UK is pretty slow at changing laws that would be useful yet aren't profitable, but quick at changing laws that are harmful for social points or backhander 'donor' points... it depends on what 'sells' to the public or the shadow donors/elites.
Many countries in Europe have them too, but in some countries, they have black arrows on the full red and amber roundels and have an illuminated green arrow on the black roundel. That method was proposed for the UK, but The Department for Transport have not approved it.
@@kindnessark8064 If I was in the Department For Transport, I would consider proposing using black arrows on the red and amber lights, whilst retaining the green arrow on traffic lights of complex junctions.
@@sambee8982 I would do the same. Approaching from a distance they'd look more like normal red/amber signals, so it should be marginally harder to miss or be confused by them, but up close you'd at least know which set(s) of lights to watch for which direction.
This was an experimental thing that the Department Of Transport did for several years from the early 1990's until the mid 2000's. Apparently this Grimsby one was an unauthorised trial site that North East Lincolnshire Council installed. However the first one that I saw with an amber arrow was the Roman Bank junction in Skegness, now gone sadly since the Mellors got replaced with Siemens Optic Design lights somewhere in the mid 2000's. I remember it was on the one where right turns onto Castleton Boulevard was prohibited I think; it had an ahead arrow, both the amber and green arrow lights were 200mm with that Euro style arrow; all the other green arrows on the traffic lights were the 300mm with the original Block style arrow.
@@sambee8982 many thanks for the info, the bigger 300 mm older arrows along with the remainder of any mellor plessey/Siemens/page gear is very hard to come by, the last of the LV / H I (halogen) sites will be replaced in the next decade, with equipment that will last half as long. Siemens Helios heads (current) are lovely to work with, but I love the old skool stuff and hate to see it done away with, even though it's me doing away with it....
@@benjaminmarriott6742 Apparently from what I've heard, the government may eventually pass an act to say that by a certain year, all traffic lights on public roads across the UK will have to be LED. Local Councils are starting to replace the old traffic lights with new ones; I recently went to Spalding a few weeks ago and discovered that one of the junctions that still had it's Mellors got replaced with Motus (now taken over by Colas) LED traffic lights.
There will be some ancient road traffic acts and/or regulations stopping us from using arrow lights for anything but green, in general. The UK is pretty slow at changing laws that would be useful yet aren't profitable, but quick at changing laws that are harmful for social points or backhander 'donor' points... it depends on what 'sells' to the public or the shadow donors/elites.
That's interesting. I think anything out of the ordinary can confuse many drivers. I can't say I've seen anything different to the standard traffic light setup in the UK. Are these still in place?
Yes they are, although there was one set of lights on that junction that I've forgotten to record though, but every set of traffic lights (apart from the ones that have 2 green arrows) on this junction have an amber arrow. There's a few other sites that I know that have an amber arrow in addition to the green arrow too; there's one at the Moor Lane junction at North Hykeham near Lincoln, and one at the East Riding Community Hospital junction near Beverley. Although, I also remember when I was little, that the Roman Bank Junction at Skegness also had an amber arrow on one of it's traffic light sets too, but ever since the Mellors got replaced sometime in the mid-2000's with Siemens optic design lights and altering the junction configuration, there's no longer an amber arrow on that junction anymore.
I just want to let you know that I did eventually film the set of Amber Arrow traffic lights that I forgot to do; it's in My Golden Sands Break 2019 video, or at least some of them at that junction: ua-cam.com/video/H6S76Mkvf7w/v-deo.html
I just saw some amber arrow (ahead and right) today in Blackburn where the A666 meets the A6119. I wonder how many there are In the UK, are they in the Highway Code?
Whereabouts exactly? I'm looking for any Intelligent Amber Arrow lights manufactured by TSEU/Microsense, or any remaining Mellor traffic lights that have an amber arrow.
@@sambee8982. There are two sets in Bournemouth, one of the sets is at the Littledown Centre but I can't remember where the second set is; they use a combination of Siemens LED and Halogen optic units but I haven't been down there in a while so they could potentially have been replaced. The ones in Blackburn were only installed in 2018 and are dotted all over the city centre and they are all Siemens LED optics. Unfortunately, I don't know of any TSEU/Microsense or Mellors that have any amber arrows
@@AutoUnder I remember when I was l little, I saw that there used to be an amber arrow on one of the sets of traffic lights at the Roman Bank junction in Skegness, on the A52 as you head towards Mablethorpe, that set for traffic on the right hand lane had a 200mm ahead amber arrow with an ahead 200mm green arrow (both Euro style as opposed to the traditional block arrow used on 300mm lights) to supplement the no right turn sign below it to let traffic know that they can't turn right onto Castleton Boulevard. That was the very first time that I saw an amber arrow, but sadly, somewhere in the mid 2000's the Mellors got replaced with Siemens Optic Design lights and the signal layout changed slightly since then, which meant that the amber arrow lights sadly disappeared. There was also another set of Mellors at one of the junctions at North Hykeham in Lincoln that also has an amber arrow, and when Mellor traffic lights were used on one of the roads, as seen in Google Map's Street View, it had a 200mm right amber arrow and a 300mm right green arrow, both Euro style. Most of the Mellors on that junction have been replaced with either Siemens or Peek Optic Design Lights now though, but unlike the Roman Bank junction at Skegness, it still retains it's amber arrows on two of it's roads on that junction. I also know that the junction outside East Riding Community Hospital in Yorkshire also has a set of amber arrow traffic lights at Swinemoor Lane on the outskirts of Beverley; those LED traffic lights are manufactured by Traffic Systems Co-operative, but they do seem to share a very similar design to Siemens Optic Design lights, as do the Tech Miracle & Ultra Signal Co lights (and Motus when the three companies merged).
I have encountered these, but I can't think where, what a good idea, other countries use them, the red as well. When two sets of lights are adjacent to each other for a right turn say, many a time I've seen vehicles move off on the wrong amber light, I know you are not supposed to move off until the green light shows, but that's another story!!
The amber arrow light does seem to work on the starting amber period to let vehicles know that the movement relates to that direction only, similar to how the Department for Transport did it for the cycle traffic lights, but the disadvantage was that drivers got confused on the leaving amber period; they didn't stop when its safe to do so because they thought that they could proceed with caution. But I hope one traffic light manufacturer will one day make the LED technology possible again to produce Intelligent Amber Arrow lights again.
I found them in this (ua-cam.com/video/b1a0Hze0_Is/v-deo.html) dash cam video too! at 9:20 but except the bottom arrows are amber instead of green, or is it my eyes? So confused.
This is similar to what we used to have here in the United States, down to the red ball despite the other two lights being arrows. The main difference is that the red+yellow combination before green is not allowed here-light go from red directly to green. Now most new installations implement red arrows, but the red ball is still allowed for situations where you want to allow right turns on red (most states ban turning on a red arrow).
Definitely need to be used more too I think, that and the Cardiff example (assuming they still do it there) where the right turn lights go out when the main green light is on.
I dont understand why we dont have more of this, the concept is so simple and it makes it so much easier to understand. To often I find junctions are littered with signals dotted all over the place You can't tell which ones are turning signals or normal signals. The USA has been using green, and yellow arrows for well over 30 years now, and the last 15 years slowly phasing in red arrows too. We need to start doing the same with our in England!
Well, if it wasn't for new LED technology replacing the older technology, we would've had our inteligent amber arrow traffic lights being rolled out across the uk instead of just at the original trial sites....
There will be some ancient road traffic acts and/or regulations stopping us from using arrow lights for anything but green, unfortunately.
The UK is pretty slow at changing laws that would be useful yet aren't profitable, but quick at changing laws that are harmful for social points or backhander 'donor' points... it depends on what 'sells' to the public or the shadow donors/elites.
In Ireland there's also red arrows. Much less confusing for drivers than two red dots beside each other.
Many countries in Europe have them too, but in some countries, they have black arrows on the full red and amber roundels and have an illuminated green arrow on the black roundel. That method was proposed for the UK, but The Department for Transport have not approved it.
I agree!!! Often I admit it can be very confusing when there are signals scattered all over a junction and your unsure which one is for you.
@@kindnessark8064 If I was in the Department For Transport, I would consider proposing using black arrows on the red and amber lights, whilst retaining the green arrow on traffic lights of complex junctions.
@@sambee8982 I would do the same. Approaching from a distance they'd look more like normal red/amber signals, so it should be marginally harder to miss or be confused by them, but up close you'd at least know which set(s) of lights to watch for which direction.
I. Luv. Traffic. Lights
Actually there's another Amber traffic light in Bournemouth Town entrance just further away from tesco
As an installer of a few years, I've never seen an arrow filter in an amber aspect before, sweet!
This was an experimental thing that the Department Of Transport did for several years from the early 1990's until the mid 2000's. Apparently this Grimsby one was an unauthorised trial site that North East Lincolnshire Council installed. However the first one that I saw with an amber arrow was the Roman Bank junction in Skegness, now gone sadly since the Mellors got replaced with Siemens Optic Design lights somewhere in the mid 2000's. I remember it was on the one where right turns onto Castleton Boulevard was prohibited I think; it had an ahead arrow, both the amber and green arrow lights were 200mm with that Euro style arrow; all the other green arrows on the traffic lights were the 300mm with the original Block style arrow.
@@sambee8982 many thanks for the info, the bigger 300 mm older arrows along with the remainder of any mellor plessey/Siemens/page gear is very hard to come by, the last of the LV / H I (halogen) sites will be replaced in the next decade, with equipment that will last half as long. Siemens Helios heads (current) are lovely to work with, but I love the old skool stuff and hate to see it done away with, even though it's me doing away with it....
@@benjaminmarriott6742 Apparently from what I've heard, the government may eventually pass an act to say that by a certain year, all traffic lights on public roads across the UK will have to be LED. Local Councils are starting to replace the old traffic lights with new ones; I recently went to Spalding a few weeks ago and discovered that one of the junctions that still had it's Mellors got replaced with Motus (now taken over by Colas) LED traffic lights.
There will be some ancient road traffic acts and/or regulations stopping us from using arrow lights for anything but green, in general.
The UK is pretty slow at changing laws that would be useful yet aren't profitable, but quick at changing laws that are harmful for social points or backhander 'donor' points... it depends on what 'sells' to the public or the shadow donors/elites.
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I still love my red arrows here in america
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I think the video would be a lot better if it were trimmed down much more.
There's too much waiting time where nothing of interest is happening.
That's interesting. I think anything out of the ordinary can confuse many drivers. I can't say I've seen anything different to the standard traffic light setup in the UK. Are these still in place?
Yes they are, although there was one set of lights on that junction that I've forgotten to record though, but every set of traffic lights (apart from the ones that have 2 green arrows) on this junction have an amber arrow. There's a few other sites that I know that have an amber arrow in addition to the green arrow too; there's one at the Moor Lane junction at North Hykeham near Lincoln, and one at the East Riding Community Hospital junction near Beverley. Although, I also remember when I was little, that the Roman Bank Junction at Skegness also had an amber arrow on one of it's traffic light sets too, but ever since the Mellors got replaced sometime in the mid-2000's with Siemens optic design lights and altering the junction configuration, there's no longer an amber arrow on that junction anymore.
I just want to let you know that I did eventually film the set of Amber Arrow traffic lights that I forgot to do; it's in My Golden Sands Break 2019 video, or at least some of them at that junction: ua-cam.com/video/H6S76Mkvf7w/v-deo.html
@@JahedUddin82 What makes you think it's fake?
I just saw some amber arrow (ahead and right) today in Blackburn where the A666 meets the A6119. I wonder how many there are In the UK, are they in the Highway Code?
They have these in Blackburn and Bournemouth too
Whereabouts exactly? I'm looking for any Intelligent Amber Arrow lights manufactured by TSEU/Microsense, or any remaining Mellor traffic lights that have an amber arrow.
@@sambee8982. There are two sets in Bournemouth, one of the sets is at the Littledown Centre but I can't remember where the second set is; they use a combination of Siemens LED and Halogen optic units but I haven't been down there in a while so they could potentially have been replaced. The ones in Blackburn were only installed in 2018 and are dotted all over the city centre and they are all Siemens LED optics. Unfortunately, I don't know of any TSEU/Microsense or Mellors that have any amber arrows
@@AutoUnder I remember when I was l little, I saw that there used to be an amber arrow on one of the sets of traffic lights at the Roman Bank junction in Skegness, on the A52 as you head towards Mablethorpe, that set for traffic on the right hand lane had a 200mm ahead amber arrow with an ahead 200mm green arrow (both Euro style as opposed to the traditional block arrow used on 300mm lights) to supplement the no right turn sign below it to let traffic know that they can't turn right onto Castleton Boulevard. That was the very first time that I saw an amber arrow, but sadly, somewhere in the mid 2000's the Mellors got replaced with Siemens Optic Design lights and the signal layout changed slightly since then, which meant that the amber arrow lights sadly disappeared. There was also another set of Mellors at one of the junctions at North Hykeham in Lincoln that also has an amber arrow, and when Mellor traffic lights were used on one of the roads, as seen in Google Map's Street View, it had a 200mm right amber arrow and a 300mm right green arrow, both Euro style. Most of the Mellors on that junction have been replaced with either Siemens or Peek Optic Design Lights now though, but unlike the Roman Bank junction at Skegness, it still retains it's amber arrows on two of it's roads on that junction. I also know that the junction outside East Riding Community Hospital in Yorkshire also has a set of amber arrow traffic lights at Swinemoor Lane on the outskirts of Beverley; those LED traffic lights are manufactured by Traffic Systems Co-operative, but they do seem to share a very similar design to Siemens Optic Design lights, as do the Tech Miracle & Ultra Signal Co lights (and Motus when the three companies merged).
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I have encountered these, but I can't think where, what a good idea, other countries use them, the red as well. When two sets of lights are adjacent to each other for a right turn say, many a time I've seen vehicles move off on the wrong amber light, I know you are not supposed to move off until the green light shows, but that's another story!!
The amber arrow light does seem to work on the starting amber period to let vehicles know that the movement relates to that direction only, similar to how the Department for Transport did it for the cycle traffic lights, but the disadvantage was that drivers got confused on the leaving amber period; they didn't stop when its safe to do so because they thought that they could proceed with caution. But I hope one traffic light manufacturer will one day make the LED technology possible again to produce Intelligent Amber Arrow lights again.
I found them in this (ua-cam.com/video/b1a0Hze0_Is/v-deo.html) dash cam video too! at 9:20 but except the bottom arrows are amber instead of green, or is it my eyes? So confused.
That's because it's in Ireland.
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How does this have 21k views
Because my video is the only video that I've uploaded to UA-cam to feature Amber arrow traffic lights in the UK.....
Magic? A traffic signal cartel? The Loch Ness Monster?
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