Holy moly! Your sound is incredible, and so is that sound quality. I have no idea how to record classical saxophone properly with mic angles/settings. Any general advice?
Nathan, you're making my day! I'm hesitant to tell you, because you do both genres so well you'll make me obsolete! But, Ben Blozan (Inside Pianos channel) is a dear friend and we've experimented for years. As you've discovered, classical saxophone is a nightmare in small spaces. The biggest help is a ribbon microphone (SE Voodoo VR1 in the video). It naturally attenuates the "air' and "buzz" that condenser mics exaggerate. I push the mic back a tiny bit further for classical. Once we're all pumped full of vaccine, come hang out in Greensboro and I'll hook you up!
@@drwallysax Man you kill me! Oooh okay, this is a game changer. I’ll look into investing in a ribbon mic such as that one. So true about condensers exaggerating the buzz - the very thing I don’t want it to do. And sounds like a plan! I just visited Greenville not too long ago, I didn’t realize you’re that near!
I ordered this mouthpiece a while back and I can’t wait to get my hands on it! *Update* I got the mouthpiece and I LOVE it. It sounds so warm and dark and the tone is amazing! The one thing that I can agree with everyone else on is that the tip opening will take some time getting used to since it is a lot bigger than other classical mouthpieces.
First of all Dr. GREAT review AS ALWAYS. Second of all FANTASTIC GREAT SOUND!! You inspired me to go practice immediately after your video. I’ll be ordering a Delangle soon.
Superb sound, Wally, and another excellent video; thanks! If I were a classical player, I'd probably be Jones-ing for a Delangle. For the time being, however, my old C* S80 and newer Vandoren AL3 fit the bill nicely. Great review.
After a week playing this mouthpiece i know this will be my number one mouthpiece forever... the high notes are more pure the low notes nice and dark. And now with my sterling silver neck on my reference i am more then sastified...best piece ever
Hey Wally, great review, wish I viewed it months ago! Keep it up with more classical reviews? :) By the way, Selmer redid their facings a few years back when they transitioned to 100% CNC machining. A C* measures 1.55mm on alto nowadays, so the Delangle actually compares better to a C** or S90 200.
This mouthpiece is my main mouthpiece. currently setup with Vandoren 3, Ishimori Ligature. Compare with Vandoren AL4 which has similar tip opening the Delangle has so much more projection like it can take what ever you give it. definitely a mouthpiece for the classical players. wouldn't recommend this mouthpiece to players still developing their embouchure. The French sentences that's in the box say: "I will entrust to you a precious companion! Inheritor of the great French tradition, the fruit of a rich culture of sound and of high technology, this mouthpiece will resonate with your energy on each and every stage.” Round chamber Table opening: 1.65 mm Table length: 24 mm
Thanks for doing a review on this mouthpiece. I've been interested in it, but until now, all the video reviews I had seen were done by players who didn't have a credible legit sound. I played on a Rousseau NC-4 all through graduate school back in the 1990s, and currently have a Vandoren AL-3 for when I get legit calls, but haven't been convinced with either of them . And I wasn't a fan of the Selmer Concept when it came out. I've toyed with the idea of using an old Meyer Tru-Flex 4 for legit stuff. But now you've got me curious, and I'll be ordering one . . .
Dr. Wally, a fantastic sound.. you made me think of a cello. I'd love to listen to you play any of Bach's sonate for violoncello... I'll buy your CD! (does anyone still produce a cd?..) guess I'm too old...
That's incredibly kind, Paolo. Thanks man. No plans to record classical any time soon - but I'm recording retro-cool jazz very soon! Happy Summer my friend!
I have been a fan of Selmer hr mouthpieces since getting my first C star soloist. I put a self baffle in it and my, what a jazz mpc it makes.The Sonata for saxophone was my Junior recital piece. I certainly used my Selmer mpc for that. Great demo.
When choosing a new mouthpiece I tried this and the Selmer Concept and I loved them both. They both had a really good sound and feel to them. However, I couldn’t personally justify the heftier price tag for the slight improvement in sound I got. This was only a short time playing I would like to clarify so maybe over longer periods of time I would change my mind.
i have been playing aruound with this mouthpiece and i really, really enjoy it. i have to go down 1/2 of a strength reed as well (compared with using selmer concept or vandoren AP3). but it's very comfortable to play and the sound is very pleasant and really gives me joy.
Glad you're enjoying it!!! It's a great piece, and I wasn't kidding was I? Tell me you don't look at it and think "this thing is a stunning beauty!!!!"
@@drwallysax yeah I think the mouthpiece gets some negative reviews from some classical players because they are trying to use the same strength reed on it because they feel like "I've been using 3.5 for many years." I did that too initially. Other than you, on all the reviews I saw on UA-cam, no one else went down a size. But once I went down 1/2, it felt and sounded amazing.
Thank you for a truly useful review! Fantastic sound you have by the way ;-). Do you have a solution to cope with the different shank sizes when using different mouthpieces? Lately I have been using that white tape that is used for plumbing. It works fine once it is in place, but the constant taking off and putting back again makes want to try to stick to one style of music sometimes ;-). I will definitely consider a Claude Delangle mpc if I decide to seriously pick up my classical playing again!
I feel your pain Kurt. My solution, is to find two mouthpieces with similar bore diameters. I'm not picky about jazz mouthpieces, so I just find one that is similar to my classical piece (which I'm much more picky about). Teflon tape certainly works, but man, aint' nobody got time for that.
That is some beautiful tone you've got there, Dr Wallace! Would be interesting to see how this piece compares to the Selmer Soloist. That's another mouthpiece I've been looking at for a while
I honestly don't know any classical players that use a soloist these days - the new Selmer Concept is a MUCH better mouthpiece in my opinion. Happy practicing!
@@drwallysax Thanks for the advice! I actually considered getting the Soloist as a piece for contemporary music, maybe even slightly crossing over into jazzier stuff when playing say in musical theatre, but doubling itself is already very expensive, so the Claude Delangle is actually quite steep. I currently play on a S90 200 for classical. My teacher happens to play on a Soloist for classical and contemporary music, and that piece has a really sweet sound. Maybe I should ask to try his before I make a decision?
I bought mine from thomann music out of Germany. Before Selmer told them to stop selling their stuff in the US. I had played the concept for several years, but I'm never going back. The sound is so much better, hard to believe, and plays so easily. I love the weird little hybrid classical mouthpiece. I wish there was one for the tenor.
I have been looking for good classical mouthpiece for quite a while but I have never really found one that responded how I wanted or gave me the sound I am after, so I decided that this mouthpiece seems like it has the qualities I am after as my S80 responds to the Legere reeds that I play and as this mouthpiece has the same tip thickness, I figured they should respond the same as I noticed with thinner tips, the reeds tend to get a bit too buzzy for me. Instead of buying more mouthpieces to find the right one, as I have tried many, I just got one of these and played it today, luckily I have a trial period on it so I could return it and get my money back if I don't like it so I didn't have to worry about spending that much on a mouthpiece. I played it on a Yamaha YAS-280, Legere Signature 2 reed and a BG DUO gold lacquer reed. I tested it against my Selmer S80 C**. What I noticed straight away was that the sound is louder and projection is not an issue, the gold bore really helps that. I felt the weight in my mouth also. The sound is very smooth with more body to the sound and I don't get that more aggressive sound that the S80 sometimes can have as you mentioned. Its also very even throughout and I found it easy to keep in tune but like you said it doesn't change the tuning. The low notes are easy to get out at normal volumes but there is a bit of resistance which made playing low notes softer a bit harder but with time I should improve on that. I have only started learning altissimo but so far the altissimo sounds fuller than I was getting from other mouthpieces but like low notes, its a little resistant, but the resistance I was getting from both the altissimo and low notes wasn't bad resistance as I didn't any pushback like I have on some mouthpieces like my Soloist E. I feel I could have the endurance to play a lot longer on it but I just have to practise so I can play softer on it and get the notes out. Overall I find its the best classical mouthpiece have ever played and I have played Selmer S80, Soloist, Vandoren Optimum and E. Rousseau classical mouthpieces and it hands town beats them all for me as its well made, comes in a nice box, it doesn't sound stuffy or overly dark, its not grainy/aggressive sounding like the S80, doesn't have that pushback resistance feeling and doesn't have problems with projecting.
ugh... now I might have to buy one of these. thanks! Seriously though, I've been on the Concept since it came out (replaced my S90s) but wish they had more carrying power which this seems to have. On a total side note, are you recording on a SE Voodoo mic?
Great video! Many thanks from Australia. I get the impression that this piece would be great for concertos, but for more intimate solo and sonatas etc. the Concept is more suitable (I play the Concept on both alto and tenor).
It certainly has a lot of power, but I'd be very comfortable playing chamber or orchestral works on it. It might sound a bit more "forward" in the video due to close mic position. It wasn't that much louder than my AL3 (which is quite timid). And hello from the finally not blazing-hot September in North Carolina!
How about the Soloist differences? Playing an E, so there will be a tighter tip and the chamber from Delangle is round. Having some extra resistance sounds also really interesting, having that extra next to the instrument itself🤔. the Csharp problem is solvable in a way, but not easy to achieve😬 And beautiful sound, really getting the singing saxophone 🎷
I have a Soloist E and I also have this Claude Delangle mouthpiece. I know the tip is wider on the soloist but I always found the Soloist to have resistance in the low notes that made me have to push harder to get the notes out. On the Delangle, its easy to get the low notes but there is a little resistance when playing softer on it but not the pushback feeling I got with the Soloist. Its similar with altissimo, the notes are fuller but a bit resistant and again I don't get the pushback feeling, its more that I have be precise and have be precise at playing those to make them come out. I also noticed with the Soloist when playing louder it has a bit of a buzz in the sound, the Delangle doesn't have that. I also noticed the Delangle due to the gold plated bore, is louder than the Soloist with a bit of a smoother sound with a more richer tone.
@@DynamixWarePro You're right about that. Bought the mouthpiece a month ago. And got to say it really plays smoothly, much richer sound but still got the dark tones. Played the Soloist after a couple days to ensure about the differences, and the soloist was so dark and hollow compared playing with the Delangle mouthpiece. (used same reeds on both). The Delangle mouthpiece was really a step forward. Also with the orchestra's I play with, we have different play styles. From a march, classic, cinematic, pop, jazz and so on. This mouthpiece is also capable of those styles too and not in a shy way ;). Really amazing in classic, but also masterful in the others
Very nice. I hear a rich, warm very easy to listen to sound. If I had a use for one I’d go for it. My favorite classical was an older scroll shank Selmer D. When I dropped it on a tile floor, one was there to catch it. 😥
Hi Giorgio, afraid I don't know the tip openings of the Otto links! But remember, tip opening is one of many factors in defining the feel of resistance (we want a balance). Even with the exact same tip opening - facing length, sidewalls, baffle, etc. will create a very different playing sensations. Sorry this isn't the answer you were looking for, but I do encourage you to experiment and try mouthpieces before you buy. Best of luck my friend, happy practicing!
How is the quality of the facing response in the upper altissimo? I am specifically thinking of that dreaded Sfz E4# -yes it is written as E#, in the Lars Erik Larsson concerto? At this price point I would expect it to sign loud and effortlessly...
Altissimo was fine, but no better than any other Selmer mouthpiece I've payed. Honestly, mouthpiece "quality/price" has far less impact on altissimo than tip opening, reed strength, chamber shape/size, etc.
@@drwallysax Exactly, at this price point, I think players can be better served working with a reputable refacer/mouthpiece maker that will entertain the discussion about front rail tip size, baffle shaping, lay length, chamber matching and reed cut in order to achieve optimum performance.
I only think of you of just a primarily jazz player BUT after watching this video this changes my view on that completely! You sound great!!! Thank you for the review:)
Bob, that’s incredibly kind, thank you. I was almost exclusively a classical saxophonist all the way through my doctorate. I just grew to hate the modern repertoire. I got bored teaching college saxophone, so quit and dedicated myself to my burning passion: 1950s cool jazz! Felt fun to dust off my classical playing though 😉
Thank you Jacob. I’m home with two kiddos for a few months (childcare and school not opening), but hope to return to teaching soon(ish). Hope you’re having a great summer!
two weeks ago, i bought my first sax, a YAS25. It came with two yam4c mpcs. I went to the local music store, and play tested a few mpcs, a yam custom, vandooren optimum, seler prologue, selmer Cstar and a selmer Concept.... gues which i bought...? exactly.... the Concept, this was The easiest playing, keeping the tune right. I just recently started with lessons, 21 july '20 , never played before...
How does this compare to the selmer concept? And with the extra mass and projection found in this mouthpiece, would it still be suitable for ensemble and concert band playing? Thanks.
Hey Dr. I also play bari and I need a classical mouthpiece for concert band and all state and i usually get mouthpieces and that stuff from My Music Dealer they have a Sigurd Rascher and a Vandoren Optimum BL5 For Bari Which Would you Prefer??
I feel like this is true for all wind instruments, but especially brass instruments and saxes. Get a firm grounding in classical playing before you go off to play jazz, rock, whatever. It’ll serve you well. Learn to play your instrument with good symphonic tone, consistent intonation, and solid classical technique. In other words, listen to your teachers. Lol. You can come at it from other directions, but you’re just going to end up playing catch-up and correcting problems in your playing later on. This is outstanding playing. Gorgeous tone.
So were you a student Delagle? Did you manage to meet Londeix or Mule at the Conservatoire? I met Londeix in '73 at a World Sax Congress Master class in Toronto and he critiqued my progress on the Ibert Concertino de Camera. I was a student of Paul Brodie at the time.
That's really cool! I never studied with Delangle, but met him a handful of times. When he caught my friends mouthpiece, he was just kindly waiting for our dress rehearsal to end (he had the stage next) at a NASA conference. Very cool you studied with Brodie - he was a trailblazer!
@@drwallysax Paul was my teacher in the early 70's at U of T. I was the alto sub in his quartet and we remained good friends till his passing in 2008. Paul was totally committed to the propagation of classical music as was U of T. Hence my intense interest in what you have to say about jazz improv. Paul's lessons didn't hurt me in the studios but left me at a terrible disadvantage with jazz work. I played 2nd alto in some amazing bands.
I got it on ebay for $309. Obviously, not the same tone, but I'm not a doctor. Not the same kind of a doctor, anyway. In any case, almost became my primary, but the Concept is better for me after all. One particular reason - the beak slope on the Concept is much steeper, opens the oral chamber more. Also, the Concept magically fixes the traditional vintage Selmer "burbling", but so does a wine cork in the bell (only French wine, of course). Anyway, the Concept is still at the top.
That makes sense. There's a ton of top-notch classical players that sound amazing on the concept. A great piece to be sure. Not as shiny though. I like shiny things. Like a squirrel.
Can someone explain the tip openings for me? I play a Meyer 7 with an .081 tip opening. This mouthpiece is a 1.65mm. They must be using different measurements right?
Yes! the French use the metric system, in America we measure tip openings in "thousandths of an inch." Your 7 Meyer is (about, I think) 2.15mm. Conversely, the Delangle would measure .065 (in American *bald eagle screech*). Make senses?
@@drwallysax Yes thank you! Wow so closer to a Meyer 4? Would it need a much stiffer reed to play well? I don't know anything about classical mouthpieces.
Hello Dr. Wallace! You might remember me from your Yamaha YAS-62iii video, and I was wondering if you could do a review on the P. Mauriat System 76 Series ii alto. Thank you in advance, and have a great day!
Hi Eliacim! I remember you. Unfortunately, the retailer I have a relationship with is not a P. Mauriat dealer. Not sure how to get my hands on one without paying rather hefty shipping and restocking fees. But, if I can figure a way, I certainly will. Hope you're well!
Saxophone Academy Ahh that’s okay. I’m looking to get my first pro horn and I’m debating between the P. Mauriat and the Yamaha, or going for one of the high end Yamaha’s like the 82Z and the 875EX. There’s a few other options but I want to keep the list brief.
@@saxophite1333 If I were buying a horn today, I'd get the Yamaha 62iii. I've played P. Mauriat and others, and own the more expensive Yamaha. Recently I tested the 82z (silver plated). I promise you, the 62iii is outstanding. You will not be disappointed. I had a hard timing giving my test model back - I really loved it. Whatever you decide, good luck and enjoy it! (but keep me updated)!
I'm working through prototypes right now - developing the best for under $100. Give me a couple of weeks, I think I'll have something VERY exciting to share.
@@drwallysax Thanks! Limited budget 'n' all that, y'know. Going to get an Otto Link Tone Edge on your recommendation for my other playing. Keep doing dat voodoo dat you do!
It’s the right choice. You will absolutely love it. The Delangle is great, but not “better.” The AL3 is just such a fantastic sound, feel, and value. Don’t second guess, you’ve got a great mouthpiece.
Saxophone Academy I totally get it. Doctors are limiting doctors visits and doing them via Skype or zoom or whatever. Podcasts seem lower priority than that, I’m afraid. Maybe revive in a year or so? I’m gonna listen to old eps as a way to get myself recharged.
@@lovesturkeys for 99.99% of saxophonists performing doesn't pay the bills. Teaching the art from does. Teaching payed the bills, but I never loved the classical literature I was expected to teach at the college level. Bills were paid, but I was very bored.
"I entrust you with a precise partner. Heir to the great French tradition, the result of a rich culture of sound and high technology, this mouthpiece will be in harmony with your energy on all scenes."
"I entrust it to a precious partner, heir to the great French tradition, the culmination of a rich culture of sound and high technology, this mouthpiece will be in harmony with your energy on all stages" is what the quote on the mouthpeice means, atleast acording to google translate.
@@sergej100qca4 Thanks Sergej. I haven't practiced classical in several years, so didn't have any repertoire under my fingers - so, improvising seemed like the natural choice. Happy practicing, my friend!
“ I entrust you with a precious partner! Heir to the great French tradition, the culmination of a rich culture of sound and high technology, this mouthpiece will be in harmony with your energy on all stages.” - C. Delangle
You said the Claude Delangle is 1.65mm and isn't as open as the S80 c*. Actually the S80 C** alto tip opening is 1.65mm and the C* is 1.55mm so its about the same as an S80 C**. I have a Vandoren AL5 but after playing it, I prefer the S80 as I find the sound on the AL5 a bit too dark and a bit softer and I get a smoother, louder sound from the S80. Very nice playing, I love your classical tone.
Strangely, it's the majority of what's being taught in American Universities. The modern repertoire, however, is the reason I no longer do the college saxophone thing. Can't stand the academic music (I mean, how many multiphonics do you want to hear on one recital?). Happy practicing, Jobin!
@@drwallysax Indeed! Too often in the academic saxophone world there is also peer pressure from other "academics" to like or perform EVERY new work for saxophone even when there is redundancy.
@@georgekosich5563 Absolutely! When I was getting my DMA, my major prof would say "Wally, you have to play this work, it's IMPORTANT." I'd say it's academic nonsense, and he'd say: "but everyone's playing it!" Happy Saturday, my friend!
After watching many reviews of this mouth piece by many amateurs on UA-cam, my conclusion this mouth piece is not for amateurs. Amateurs just cannot make this mouth piece sing. Dr. Wally can make this mouth piece sing beautifully, but the amateurs on UA-cam will kill the sales of this mouth piece. They do sound very ugly.
Holy moly! Your sound is incredible, and so is that sound quality. I have no idea how to record classical saxophone properly with mic angles/settings. Any general advice?
Nathan, you're making my day! I'm hesitant to tell you, because you do both genres so well you'll make me obsolete! But, Ben Blozan (Inside Pianos channel) is a dear friend and we've experimented for years. As you've discovered, classical saxophone is a nightmare in small spaces. The biggest help is a ribbon microphone (SE Voodoo VR1 in the video). It naturally attenuates the "air' and "buzz" that condenser mics exaggerate. I push the mic back a tiny bit further for classical. Once we're all pumped full of vaccine, come hang out in Greensboro and I'll hook you up!
@@drwallysax Man you kill me! Oooh okay, this is a game changer. I’ll look into investing in a ribbon mic such as that one. So true about condensers exaggerating the buzz - the very thing I don’t want it to do.
And sounds like a plan! I just visited Greenville not too long ago, I didn’t realize you’re that near!
Does that microphone work well for jazz too?
My God what a good sound.
Ryan, I really appreciate that. Thanks. Seriously, thank you.
Holy crap! Your classical sound is incredible!
You. I like you.
I CONCUR!! Love it! Reminds me of that kind of sound that Sigurd Rascher has (which I really like!)
@@JulianChanSax you are too kind. :)
I ordered this mouthpiece a while back and I can’t wait to get my hands on it! *Update* I got the mouthpiece and I LOVE it. It sounds so warm and dark and the tone is amazing! The one thing that I can agree with everyone else on is that the tip opening will take some time getting used to since it is a lot bigger than other classical mouthpieces.
I think you're going to like it! let me know what you think when you get it!
First of all Dr. GREAT review AS ALWAYS. Second of all FANTASTIC GREAT SOUND!! You inspired me to go practice immediately after your video. I’ll be ordering a Delangle soon.
Yes Doctor! A great and humorous review as always.
Thanks Bob, that's kind man.
Superb sound, Wally, and another excellent video; thanks! If I were a classical player, I'd probably be Jones-ing for a Delangle. For the time being, however, my old C* S80 and newer Vandoren AL3 fit the bill nicely. Great review.
Just discovered the Saxophone Academy. This is a good saxophone resource, thanks Dr Wally. I'm now a subscriber.
Welcome to the academy, Frank! It's a fun little "pack of strays." Nice people hanging around here!
Your classical sound is beautiful! I love your content. Great review
Hey Dr Wallace, great to see you.
Gorgeous review.
Thanks Samuel, happy Wednesday!
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After a week playing this mouthpiece i know this will be my number one mouthpiece forever... the high notes are more pure the low notes nice and dark. And now with my sterling silver neck on my reference i am more then sastified...best piece ever
Glad you love it! I was VERY impressed by the piece. If I didn't have an old Larry Teal I loved, I would have definitely bought it. Happy practicing!
As always, that was some great playing!
Hey Wally, great review, wish I viewed it months ago! Keep it up with more classical reviews? :)
By the way, Selmer redid their facings a few years back when they transitioned to 100% CNC machining. A C* measures 1.55mm on alto nowadays, so the Delangle actually compares better to a C** or S90 200.
good to know, thanks Joshua!
This mouthpiece is my main mouthpiece. currently setup with Vandoren 3, Ishimori Ligature. Compare with Vandoren AL4 which has similar tip opening the Delangle has so much more projection like it can take what ever you give it. definitely a mouthpiece for the classical players. wouldn't recommend this mouthpiece to players still developing their embouchure.
The French sentences that's in the box say:
"I will entrust to you a precious companion! Inheritor of the great French tradition, the fruit of a rich culture of sound and of high technology, this mouthpiece will resonate with your energy on each and every stage.”
Round chamber
Table opening: 1.65 mm
Table length: 24 mm
Thanks for doing a review on this mouthpiece. I've been interested in it, but until now, all the video reviews I had seen were done by players who didn't have a credible legit sound. I played on a Rousseau NC-4 all through graduate school back in the 1990s, and currently have a Vandoren AL-3 for when I get legit calls, but haven't been convinced with either of them . And I wasn't a fan of the Selmer Concept when it came out. I've toyed with the idea of using an old Meyer Tru-Flex 4 for legit stuff. But now you've got me curious, and I'll be ordering one . . .
Let me know how you like it!
Dr. Wally, a fantastic sound.. you made me think of a cello. I'd love to listen to you play any of Bach's sonate for violoncello... I'll buy your CD! (does anyone still produce a cd?..) guess I'm too old...
That's incredibly kind, Paolo. Thanks man. No plans to record classical any time soon - but I'm recording retro-cool jazz very soon! Happy Summer my friend!
I have been a fan of Selmer hr mouthpieces since getting my first C star soloist. I put a self baffle in it and my, what a jazz mpc it makes.The Sonata for saxophone was my Junior recital piece. I certainly used my Selmer mpc for that. Great demo.
I love the soloist, very warm core!
Omg...you sound/tone is hands down the best I have heard.
When choosing a new mouthpiece I tried this and the Selmer Concept and I loved them both. They both had a really good sound and feel to them. However, I couldn’t personally justify the heftier price tag for the slight improvement in sound I got. This was only a short time playing I would like to clarify so maybe over longer periods of time I would change my mind.
i have been playing aruound with this mouthpiece and i really, really enjoy it. i have to go down 1/2 of a strength reed as well (compared with using selmer concept or vandoren AP3). but it's very comfortable to play and the sound is very pleasant and really gives me joy.
Glad you're enjoying it!!! It's a great piece, and I wasn't kidding was I? Tell me you don't look at it and think "this thing is a stunning beauty!!!!"
@@drwallysax yeah I think the mouthpiece gets some negative reviews from some classical players because they are trying to use the same strength reed on it because they feel like "I've been using 3.5 for many years." I did that too initially. Other than you, on all the reviews I saw on UA-cam, no one else went down a size. But once I went down 1/2, it felt and sounded amazing.
Thank you for a truly useful review! Fantastic sound you have by the way ;-). Do you have a solution to cope with the different shank sizes when using different mouthpieces? Lately I have been using that white tape that is used for plumbing. It works fine once it is in place, but the constant taking off and putting back again makes want to try to stick to one style of music sometimes ;-).
I will definitely consider a Claude Delangle mpc if I decide to seriously pick up my classical playing again!
I feel your pain Kurt. My solution, is to find two mouthpieces with similar bore diameters. I'm not picky about jazz mouthpieces, so I just find one that is similar to my classical piece (which I'm much more picky about). Teflon tape certainly works, but man, aint' nobody got time for that.
That is some beautiful tone you've got there, Dr Wallace! Would be interesting to see how this piece compares to the Selmer Soloist. That's another mouthpiece I've been looking at for a while
I honestly don't know any classical players that use a soloist these days - the new Selmer Concept is a MUCH better mouthpiece in my opinion. Happy practicing!
@@drwallysax Thanks for the advice! I actually considered getting the Soloist as a piece for contemporary music, maybe even slightly crossing over into jazzier stuff when playing say in musical theatre, but doubling itself is already very expensive, so the Claude Delangle is actually quite steep. I currently play on a S90 200 for classical.
My teacher happens to play on a Soloist for classical and contemporary music, and that piece has a really sweet sound. Maybe I should ask to try his before I make a decision?
Very enjoyable and informative thanks Dr. Wally .
Thanks Leycroft! Happy practicing!
I dont need a new mouthpiece but Im gonna watch just to boost the likes!!
You. I like you.
I bought mine from thomann music out of Germany. Before Selmer told them to stop selling their stuff in the US. I had played the concept for several years, but I'm never going back. The sound is so much better, hard to believe, and plays so easily. I love the weird little hybrid classical mouthpiece. I wish there was one for the tenor.
I have been looking for good classical mouthpiece for quite a while but I have never really found one that responded how I wanted or gave me the sound I am after, so I decided that this mouthpiece seems like it has the qualities I am after as my S80 responds to the Legere reeds that I play and as this mouthpiece has the same tip thickness, I figured they should respond the same as I noticed with thinner tips, the reeds tend to get a bit too buzzy for me.
Instead of buying more mouthpieces to find the right one, as I have tried many, I just got one of these and played it today, luckily I have a trial period on it so I could return it and get my money back if I don't like it so I didn't have to worry about spending that much on a mouthpiece.
I played it on a Yamaha YAS-280, Legere Signature 2 reed and a BG DUO gold lacquer reed. I tested it against my Selmer S80 C**. What I noticed straight away was that the sound is louder and projection is not an issue, the gold bore really helps that. I felt the weight in my mouth also.
The sound is very smooth with more body to the sound and I don't get that more aggressive sound that the S80 sometimes can have as you mentioned. Its also very even throughout and I found it easy to keep in tune but like you said it doesn't change the tuning.
The low notes are easy to get out at normal volumes but there is a bit of resistance which made playing low notes softer a bit harder but with time I should improve on that.
I have only started learning altissimo but so far the altissimo sounds fuller than I was getting from other mouthpieces but like low notes, its a little resistant, but the resistance I was getting from both the altissimo and low notes wasn't bad resistance as I didn't any pushback like I have on some mouthpieces like my Soloist E. I feel I could have the endurance to play a lot longer on it but I just have to practise so I can play softer on it and get the notes out.
Overall I find its the best classical mouthpiece have ever played and I have played Selmer S80, Soloist, Vandoren Optimum and E. Rousseau classical mouthpieces and it hands town beats them all for me as its well made, comes in a nice box, it doesn't sound stuffy or overly dark, its not grainy/aggressive sounding like the S80, doesn't have that pushback resistance feeling and doesn't have problems with projecting.
Excellent! Glad you like it. I really love my old Larry Teal alto piece, but the Delangle was certainly tempting!
For me the S80 c* and the Vandoren is just fine. Beautiful playing Dr. WALLY. Thanks
I have a s80C* I adore. They're great pieces.
Witch vandoren mounthpiece is similar to s80*? tankyou
For me it's the Vandoren AL3. Not exactly the same.
ugh... now I might have to buy one of these. thanks! Seriously though, I've been on the Concept since it came out (replaced my S90s) but wish they had more carrying power which this seems to have. On a total side note, are you recording on a SE Voodoo mic?
Yup, Voodoo! Vr1 I think?
Great video! Many thanks from Australia. I get the impression that this piece would be great for concertos, but for more intimate solo and sonatas etc. the Concept is more suitable (I play the Concept on both alto and tenor).
It certainly has a lot of power, but I'd be very comfortable playing chamber or orchestral works on it. It might sound a bit more "forward" in the video due to close mic position. It wasn't that much louder than my AL3 (which is quite timid). And hello from the finally not blazing-hot September in North Carolina!
I just bought this mouthpiece to go with my Selmer Supreme. This mouthpiece is absolutely fantastic...as is my sax.
How about the Soloist differences? Playing an E, so there will be a tighter tip and the chamber from Delangle is round. Having some extra resistance sounds also really interesting, having that extra next to the instrument itself🤔.
the Csharp problem is solvable in a way, but not easy to achieve😬
And beautiful sound, really getting the singing saxophone 🎷
I have a Soloist E and I also have this Claude Delangle mouthpiece. I know the tip is wider on the soloist but I always found the Soloist to have resistance in the low notes that made me have to push harder to get the notes out. On the Delangle, its easy to get the low notes but there is a little resistance when playing softer on it but not the pushback feeling I got with the Soloist. Its similar with altissimo, the notes are fuller but a bit resistant and again I don't get the pushback feeling, its more that I have be precise and have be precise at playing those to make them come out. I also noticed with the Soloist when playing louder it has a bit of a buzz in the sound, the Delangle doesn't have that. I also noticed the Delangle due to the gold plated bore, is louder than the Soloist with a bit of a smoother sound with a more richer tone.
@@DynamixWarePro You're right about that. Bought the mouthpiece a month ago. And got to say it really plays smoothly, much richer sound but still got the dark tones. Played the Soloist after a couple days to ensure about the differences, and the soloist was so dark and hollow compared playing with the Delangle mouthpiece. (used same reeds on both). The Delangle mouthpiece was really a step forward. Also with the orchestra's I play with, we have different play styles. From a march, classic, cinematic, pop, jazz and so on. This mouthpiece is also capable of those styles too and not in a shy way ;). Really amazing in classic, but also masterful in the others
Thank for you analysis and help, useful to me. I am a beginner and I will choose the concept model. Merci, cordialement.
Great choice! and glad it was helpful - you'll love the Concept.
A man of both tastes is what we have here
I like both sweet and salty?
@@drwallysax Exactly!!
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@@drwallysax as the great miles Davis said, “you gotta not play the butter notes” XD
Very nice. I hear a rich, warm very easy to listen to sound. If I had a use for one I’d go for it. My favorite classical was an older scroll shank Selmer D. When I dropped it on a tile floor, one was there to catch it. 😥
I cried reading that. Where was Delangle to catch it when you needed him!!?
Hi dr Wallace. How do you define this opening, compared to an Otto Link? It’s a 4? A 5? Thank you so much
Hi Giorgio, afraid I don't know the tip openings of the Otto links! But remember, tip opening is one of many factors in defining the feel of resistance (we want a balance). Even with the exact same tip opening - facing length, sidewalls, baffle, etc. will create a very different playing sensations. Sorry this isn't the answer you were looking for, but I do encourage you to experiment and try mouthpieces before you buy. Best of luck my friend, happy practicing!
Amazing sound Dr. Wally!! I was wondering what was your set up in this video to go along with the mouthpiece?
Vandoren M/O and Vandoren blue box #3 reed (on my Trusty Yamaha EX). Happy practicing!
@@drwallysax Thank you so much!! 🎷🎷
How is the quality of the facing response in the upper altissimo? I am specifically thinking of that dreaded Sfz E4# -yes it is written as E#, in the Lars Erik Larsson concerto? At this price point I would expect it to sign loud and effortlessly...
Altissimo was fine, but no better than any other Selmer mouthpiece I've payed. Honestly, mouthpiece "quality/price" has far less impact on altissimo than tip opening, reed strength, chamber shape/size, etc.
@@drwallysax Exactly, at this price point, I think players can be better served working with a reputable refacer/mouthpiece maker that will entertain the discussion about front rail tip size, baffle shaping, lay length, chamber matching and reed cut in order to achieve optimum performance.
it's very nice playing! may I know what reed did you play? Thanks
I only think of you of just a primarily jazz player BUT after watching this video this changes my view on that completely! You sound great!!! Thank you for the review:)
Bob, that’s incredibly kind, thank you. I was almost exclusively a classical saxophonist all the way through my doctorate. I just grew to hate the modern repertoire. I got bored teaching college saxophone, so quit and dedicated myself to my burning passion: 1950s cool jazz!
Felt fun to dust off my classical playing though 😉
Love the review, definitely seems like a great piece! But I'd like to ask if you have any online lessons/courses available?
Thank you Jacob. I’m home with two kiddos for a few months (childcare and school not opening), but hope to return to teaching soon(ish). Hope you’re having a great summer!
Saxophone Academy Same to you, Looking forward to the next video!
Great playing Doc!!! Sorry if you already answered this but what ligature would you recommend for this mouthpiece? Did it come with one? Thanks!!
I love the Vandoren M/O, worked very well for me with this mouthpiece! (and thanks for the compliment)!
@@drwallysax Thanks a bunch!!
Dr Wally I sure wish you would have played a Paul Desmond ballad on this. Do you think this piece would work for a Paul Desmond sound?
I liked the Ninjalangle story. Did you feel you had to use Vandoren reeds to optimize it?
Not at all. I’ve just used them for ages. D’addario reserve would be great as well.
I use an AL3 but I have to use something like a rico royal 3, which is much softer than a blue box 3.5.
two weeks ago, i bought my first sax, a YAS25. It came with two yam4c mpcs. I went to the local music store, and play tested a few mpcs, a yam custom, vandooren optimum, seler prologue, selmer Cstar and a selmer Concept.... gues which i bought...? exactly.... the Concept, this was The easiest playing, keeping the tune right. I just recently started with lessons, 21 july '20 , never played before...
Congrats on the great mouthpiece and starting your saxophone journey! Happy practicing!
I love my Selmer Concept but I am intrigued by this...
If you try one, definitely withhold judgement until you try a softer reed or two. I really dug it. I kind of miss it :(
I’m currently playing on an s80 c*, would you say the Claude delangle is a strict upgrade or more of a different beast?
Different beast. If I had an s80 or s90 I loved, there would be no reason to switch. I DO, however, like it better than the concept. Good question.
How does this compare to the selmer concept? And with the extra mass and projection found in this mouthpiece, would it still be suitable for ensemble and concert band playing? Thanks.
Would a 6c one be harder to play on than a 5c? Which one do you reccomend?
Is it possible for you to do a classical/Jazz embouchure video? I'm having loads of trouble getting a nice embouchure T_T
Absolutely. Which are are you having trouble with?
@@drwallysax Classical
Hi Dr Wallace, what is the composition you are playing when the video first starts?
HI Bradford! It's called "Dr. Wally goofing around in e-minor" (was just improvising)
Hey Dr. I also play bari and I need a classical mouthpiece for concert band and all state and i usually get mouthpieces and that stuff from My Music Dealer they have a Sigurd Rascher and a Vandoren Optimum BL5 For Bari Which Would you Prefer??
Vandoren!
Okay Thank You
which is better claude delangle or the concept one i cannot pick? I am an intermediate to advanced
I feel like this is true for all wind instruments, but especially brass instruments and saxes. Get a firm grounding in classical playing before you go off to play jazz, rock, whatever. It’ll serve you well. Learn to play your instrument with good symphonic tone, consistent intonation, and solid classical technique. In other words, listen to your teachers. Lol. You can come at it from other directions, but you’re just going to end up playing catch-up and correcting problems in your playing later on. This is outstanding playing. Gorgeous tone.
So were you a student Delagle? Did you manage to meet Londeix or Mule at the Conservatoire? I met Londeix in '73 at a World Sax Congress Master class in Toronto and he critiqued my progress on the Ibert Concertino de Camera. I was a student of Paul Brodie at the time.
That's really cool! I never studied with Delangle, but met him a handful of times. When he caught my friends mouthpiece, he was just kindly waiting for our dress rehearsal to end (he had the stage next) at a NASA conference. Very cool you studied with Brodie - he was a trailblazer!
@@drwallysax Paul was my teacher in the early 70's at U of T. I was the alto sub in his quartet and we remained good friends till his passing in 2008. Paul was totally committed to the propagation of classical music as was U of T. Hence my intense interest in what you have to say about jazz improv. Paul's lessons didn't hurt me in the studios but left me at a terrible disadvantage with jazz work. I played 2nd alto in some amazing bands.
I got the concept and the gold logo and lettering were gone after a year
How would this mouthpiece be with a legere reed? My experience with selmer mouthpieces is that some tend to sound buzzy with legere reeds.
No idea, never tested it with a Legere!
Hey Dr Wally. What classical mouthpiece do you use? I'm thinking of getting myself a Vandoren AL3 to try out.
Hey Francis - I'm actually finalizing some prototypes right now - something VERY exciting coming up. Give me a few weeks?
@@drwallysax Sounds great. Really enjoying your channel and fundamentals course.
Well, my AL3 arrived and it is incredible. 'The Old Castle' has never sounded so renovated!
I got it on ebay for $309. Obviously, not the same tone, but I'm not a doctor. Not the same kind of a doctor, anyway. In any case, almost became my primary, but the Concept is better for me after all. One particular reason - the beak slope on the Concept is much steeper, opens the oral chamber more. Also, the Concept magically fixes the traditional vintage Selmer "burbling", but so does a wine cork in the bell (only French wine, of course). Anyway, the Concept is still at the top.
That makes sense. There's a ton of top-notch classical players that sound amazing on the concept. A great piece to be sure. Not as shiny though. I like shiny things. Like a squirrel.
@@drwallysax LOL! I sold my CD. The person who bought it was instantly in love with it. Glad it found a good home.
Can someone explain the tip openings for me? I play a Meyer 7 with an .081 tip opening. This mouthpiece is a 1.65mm. They must be using different measurements right?
Yes! the French use the metric system, in America we measure tip openings in "thousandths of an inch." Your 7 Meyer is (about, I think) 2.15mm. Conversely, the Delangle would measure .065 (in American *bald eagle screech*). Make senses?
@@drwallysax Yes thank you! Wow so closer to a Meyer 4? Would it need a much stiffer reed to play well? I don't know anything about classical mouthpieces.
Where can I find the tenor saxophone mouthpiece
Hello Dr. Wallace! You might remember me from your Yamaha YAS-62iii video, and I was wondering if you could do a review on the P. Mauriat System 76 Series ii alto. Thank you in advance, and have a great day!
Hi Eliacim! I remember you. Unfortunately, the retailer I have a relationship with is not a P. Mauriat dealer. Not sure how to get my hands on one without paying rather hefty shipping and restocking fees. But, if I can figure a way, I certainly will. Hope you're well!
Saxophone Academy Ahh that’s okay. I’m looking to get my first pro horn and I’m debating between the P. Mauriat and the Yamaha, or going for one of the high end Yamaha’s like the 82Z and the 875EX. There’s a few other options but I want to keep the list brief.
@@saxophite1333 If I were buying a horn today, I'd get the Yamaha 62iii. I've played P. Mauriat and others, and own the more expensive Yamaha. Recently I tested the 82z (silver plated). I promise you, the 62iii is outstanding. You will not be disappointed. I had a hard timing giving my test model back - I really loved it.
Whatever you decide, good luck and enjoy it! (but keep me updated)!
Saxophone Academy I will keep you updated. Thank you for the help! And it makes it easier on my wallet because tuition isn’t cheap.
@@saxophite1333 Boy howdy! You studying music at the college level?
Doc Wsquared! What's the best classical alto mouthpiece under $100? Asking for a friend. :)
I'm working through prototypes right now - developing the best for under $100. Give me a couple of weeks, I think I'll have something VERY exciting to share.
@@drwallysax Thanks! Limited budget 'n' all that, y'know. Going to get an Otto Link Tone Edge on your recommendation for my other playing. Keep doing dat voodoo dat you do!
Beautiful
Great sound
Thanks James, happy practicing my friend!
Excellent for French school sax indeed!!
It's pricey, but certainly won me over! Happy Holidays, Costas!
Excellent it's worth every $$
Aw Man! I Just Got The Vandoren Optimum That you told me to get
It’s the right choice. You will absolutely love it. The Delangle is great, but not “better.” The AL3 is just such a fantastic sound, feel, and value. Don’t second guess, you’ve got a great mouthpiece.
I tried it out and it was amazing!! unfortunately my g# mechanism is broken so i need to take it to the shop. But I Hope Your Doing Well Dr. Wally
Con esta boquilla que caña usar, gracias.
Loved the Bach!
Thanks, Tom! Happy practicing my friend!
I play on Wnadoren AL3 it's very good mountpiece for me
Wondering in the theoretical world how long the drive would be to try one at a store.
Good question! In the theoretical world, do you have a Rolls Royce? I do!
@@drwallysax Theoretically my Dolnet alto is a Buffet Senzo and my Ford Pinto is still a Ford Pinto.
In the Netherlands, it is only 185 Euro, people from the U.S can buy directly.
That's a great price, thanks for the tip!
are you going to continue the podcast?
Don't know. I hate skype/zoom interviews and it's not safe to do it in person yet. Afraid I don't have a good answer for you.
Saxophone Academy I totally get it. Doctors are limiting doctors visits and doing them via Skype or zoom or whatever. Podcasts seem lower priority than that, I’m afraid. Maybe revive in a year or so? I’m gonna listen to old eps as a way to get myself recharged.
How do you get such a clear sound? It sounds very bright and sort of hollow but not in a cheesy and agressive way. Very beautiful!
Thanks Paul! I spent roughly 30 years studying classical saxophone - used to be an obsession of mine. Happy Tuesday!
@@drwallysax Wow, that explains a lot. You don't look like you're that old, though :D Have a great day!
@@lovesturkeys for 99.99% of saxophonists performing doesn't pay the bills. Teaching the art from does. Teaching payed the bills, but I never loved the classical literature I was expected to teach at the college level. Bills were paid, but I was very bored.
"I entrust you with a precise partner. Heir to the great French tradition, the result of a rich culture of sound and high technology, this mouthpiece will be in harmony with your energy on all scenes."
"hey Siri, what's my mouthpiece say...."
@@drwallysax Je dirais que Siri n'était pas impliqué dans cette affaire. Sorry for my French...
"I entrust it to a precious partner, heir to the great French tradition, the culmination of a rich culture of sound and high technology, this mouthpiece will be in harmony with your energy on all stages" is what the quote on the mouthpeice means, atleast acording to google translate.
What is the piece you played in the begging?
"Improvising in E Minor" by Wally Von Wallace
@@drwallysax You are a great classical improviser.
@@sergej100qca4 Thanks Sergej. I haven't practiced classical in several years, so didn't have any repertoire under my fingers - so, improvising seemed like the natural choice. Happy practicing, my friend!
Which is mouthpiece best for Selmer Alto saxophone
Selmer c
Selmer c*
Selmer c**
Selmer S90
Which is best tone and easy to play mouthpiece
I wouldn't consider myself a classical sax fan but your tone is so beautiful I would actually listen to it on my own
That's very kind, thanks Jiovanni!
I bought one, much better than the concept. This mouthpiece gives more volume
It's a veeeery nice piece for sure!
“ I entrust you with a precious partner! Heir to the great French tradition, the culmination of a rich culture of sound and high technology, this mouthpiece will be in harmony with your energy on all stages.” - C. Delangle
I use a R. Caravan mouthpiece
So, 6 months later, do you still like it? So far, what I have heard, first response: "Amazing!!". A few months later: "Not so sure. Back to Concept"
No idea, I didn't buy it!
@@drwallysax It's a weird one. I bet Claude Delangle himself didn't keep it either.
But Great To Dr.!!
Claude Delangle ninja. I wonder if his students have to practice snatching reeds from his hand?
What's the French equivalent of chopsticks? Maybe they have to sand the Eiffel Tower?
You said the Claude Delangle is 1.65mm and isn't as open as the S80 c*. Actually the S80 C** alto tip opening is 1.65mm and the C* is 1.55mm so its about the same as an S80 C**. I have a Vandoren AL5 but after playing it, I prefer the S80 as I find the sound on the AL5 a bit too dark and a bit softer and I get a smoother, louder sound from the S80. Very nice playing, I love your classical tone.
Selmer changed their S80 facings a few years ago. The new S80 C* is 1.55mm, but the old S80 C* was 1.70mm.
@@andyk6767 I never knew that, thanks for the info.
How much??
I'm seeing them listed online for $325
Pretty much like the Theo Wanne water classical mouth piece
I haven't tried it, but it looks cool!
Classical sounds so good on saxophone. Too bad it’s not as common for professional players
Strangely, it's the majority of what's being taught in American Universities. The modern repertoire, however, is the reason I no longer do the college saxophone thing. Can't stand the academic music (I mean, how many multiphonics do you want to hear on one recital?). Happy practicing, Jobin!
Saxophone Academy Hit the nail on the head!
@@drwallysax Indeed! Too often in the academic saxophone world there is also peer pressure from other "academics" to like or perform EVERY new work for saxophone even when there is redundancy.
@@georgekosich5563 Absolutely! When I was getting my DMA, my major prof would say "Wally, you have to play this work, it's IMPORTANT." I'd say it's academic nonsense, and he'd say: "but everyone's playing it!" Happy Saturday, my friend!
I blame you for me purchasing this mouthpiece. But it is everything you said it was - truly an amazing mouthpiece.
My evidence to my parents on why they should get me this
Ha! tell your parents "sorry" from me!
"I imagine it's inspiring. . ." 🤣🤣🤣💀💀⚰⚰👻
I took a semester of French in college...it didn't' take....
After watching many reviews of this mouth piece by many amateurs on UA-cam, my conclusion this mouth piece is not for amateurs. Amateurs just cannot make this mouth piece sing. Dr. Wally can make this mouth piece sing beautifully, but the amateurs on UA-cam will kill the sales of this mouth piece. They do sound very ugly.
I think you're right (and thanks) - the tip opening requires a rather developed embouchure to get the most out of it.
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I guess this is bad to you
@@Bob-hv6dy It sounds like a person who is having a flu (stuffy nose). Yes, it does sound dead to me.
@@rothschildianum you obviously don’t know how good tones sound like