First Time Watching THE HOBBIT (An Unexpected Journey) PART 2/2 - A Lot of UGLIES in this one
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
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00:00 - Intro
00:49 - Reaction starts
03:04 - Galadriel and Saruman show up
05:55 - Rock Giants!!
08:58 - The Dwarves arrive in Goblin Town
11:11 - Gollum shows up
11:59 - Bilbo grabs the RING
12:41 - Gandalf saves the dwarves from the goblins
15:02 - Bilbo spares Gollum's life and escapes
16:54 - Thorin and Azog face each other
19:25 - Bilbo comes forward in Thorin's defense
21:42 - Thorin acts like a jerk but he really isn't
23:35 - Outro
One of the main reasons Bilbo was able to resist the ring's evil for so long while Gollum succumbed to it fairly quickly was that Bilbo reacted with mercy by sparing Gollum's life when he first wore the ring, while Gollum committed an act of murder to obtain the ring.
My basic explanation for why the eagles don't help more is that they simply do not want to get involved. This is a trait we see in many races/peoples across Middle-Earth. I suppose Gandalf has enough influence with the eagles to call on them only for dire emergencies.
As for flying Thorin & Company to Erebor, I think they could have easily done so if they wanted. However, flying into Mordor would have been deadly for them. Not only were there thousands of orc arrows & various artillery, the Nazgul have their own flying beasts, which are larger and more vicious than the eagles.
I don’t think it would have worked in lotr to just fly to Mount Doom with the eagles. The eye of Sauron would have easily spotted them, and the Nazgûl with those flying creatures would have taken them out. Even if there was a chance of success, it would have been way too risky to try.
Plus there would have been a millions orcs, trolls and worse guarding the little doorway into Mt Doom
Also, the author said that the eagles aren't running a taxi service.
They saved Gandalf because they wanted to, not because someone else thought it would be a good idea.
Also they could be corrupted by The Ring the same as any intelligent being.
And knowing this the eagles would not have taken the trip to Mordor. The Giant eagles are highly intelligent. Gandalf does not control them he asked them for a favor.
Theres an interview with Tolkien, which is youtube, in which he explains why the eagles couldnt fly to mount doom. The movies also get the great eagles wrong. In the books, thorin’s quest stays with them for days, they speak, they rescue gandalf after his battle with the balrog and they are a kingdom in themselves.
The eagles aren't an uber you can call up. They're actually spirits similar in likeness to Gandalf's spirit, using them to fly THOUSANDS of miles is basically enslaving them. Plus they would've died instantly.
Adding to most of the reasons kindly given by the others: the thing with Sauron is that everybody thought he may conjure an unlimited air force while in reality, he had land forces mostly and "only" had the flying beasts of the Nazgul that could hardly be a match for the Eagles. But realistically speaking: no one knew that. He was in the domain of the myth: being the most powerful being in the third age in Middle Earth by a stretch. Anyone would have thought he could blast you with a proton ray, a horde of Balrogs or dragons or similar. Its funny but Sauron was probably bluffing at his own level: a very practical skill for a Dark Lord.
About the eagles taking Frodo and the ring directly to Mount Doom; pretty sure it wouldn't have worked. The eagles would be spotted approaching Mordor by Sauron's spies, and intercepted by the Nazgul on their flying beasts. Atleast in the movies the eagles and the beasts are of roughly the same strength and size, and there are 9 nazgul. It would have been a violent battle in the sky. What if Frodo with the ring fell or was dropped in enemy territory?
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A little saddened you didn’t keep the Riddle Game scene for UA-cam, but it’s cool.
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Most who watch these movies think that the Great Eagles, as well as Gandalf rarely using magic, are big plot holes. Unfortunately they never explain it but there's an enormous backstory and lore to all Tolkien's work and I only know a little.
Gandalf and the other wizards aren't like wizards in other fantasy. They're sent by the gods to guide humanity and are more like guardian angels. They can't abuse their power and only use it when necessary. That's why Saruman joining Sauron is worse than him just turning evil - he's also betraying his entire purpose.
The Great Eagles are the servants of a god and basically follow the same rules. They're only there to observe and can only intervene when absolutely necessary.
I'm sure there's someone else in the comments who can explain in greater detail.
Thanks for the reaction Amanda, I always enjoy them.
22:47 In the words of JRR Tolkien, regarding that exact question, “Uh, Shut up.”
Goblins are orcs. They’re a particular breed or maybe it’s just a synonym word, but overall Tolkien makes it clear goblins are orcs. The real truth is that when he wrote “The Hobbit” in 1937 Tolkien used “goblin” exclusively for this evil race of creatures. By the 1950s he preferred “orc”. The book LOTR uses “orc” most of the time but there are a few times he uses “goblin” instead.
'Goblins' we only see underground outside of The Hobbit Book, yes. I thought Jackson did a good job with the evil races.
Frodo-It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill [Gollum] when he had the chance.
Gandalf-Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand.
The eagles flying Frodo to Mount Doom is a popular but dumb fan theory. Eagles flying into Mordor would have simply made it super easy, barely an inconvenience for Sauron and his allies to recapture the ring. The whole point of Frodo carrying the ring through the wild is so that Sauron doesn't realize that they're trying to get it to Mount Doom. Eagles flying through Mordor would be immediately shot down by a barrage of arrows from a thousand orcs, no questions asked.
The eagles wouldn't do it anyway, they aren't dumb animals, but a proud kingdom whose king owes Gandalf some favors (they speak in the books). But even after rescuing him from Saruman's tower (in Fellowship) the eagles only take him far enough to get a horse and continue his journey.
Eagles flying to Mount Doom is tight!
@@cyberleadr Thanks for getting that reference :D
The second dwarf that knocked on bilbos door that’s gimly’s cousin … in the fellowship of the ring it was his tomb where the read the book about drums in the deep… gimly grew up hearing about this adventure… I can’t wait to see your beautiful face get stuck in the next one when you see Smaug lol ❤️❤️🙏🙏
No, they could not have taken the eagles to Mordor. The quest was based on secrecy and stealth. And the eagles would have been very conspicuous and raised the alarm.
There are several sub-varieties of Orc. Smaller ones, like the Orcs of Moria and the Misty Mountains, are commonly called goblins. The Uruk-hai are a more recent, superior breed created by both Sauron and Saruman that are larger, smarter,and can withstand the sunlight better.
The Hobbit is a relatively short book, but Jackson expanded it into three films, partly by taking background material from The Lord of the Rings and the Appendices and partly with some all-new material. Originally Guillermo del Toro was going to direct but he dropped out due to the many delays during development and pre-production. I really wish we could have seen GdT's version.
In the lore Gwahir was not yet become the high lord of the eagles, so he by himself could not command use of the eagles to penetrate Mordor. Also, eagles were one of the "free peoples" in Middle Earth, so did not owe Gandalf any particular allegiance. Only directly to Eru Illuvatar.
The eagles are sent by Manwë only because Gandalf requests it as a last resort. But the Valar abandonded Middle-Earth and decided not to intervene in the conflict, wich is ehy the eagles only come excepcionally to help Gandalf.
Every time someone brings up the Eagles could have taken the characters all the way to the end it makes me laugh. We can do something like that with any story but doing so makes it not a story. The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings are about the art of storytelling.
Idk why but everytime she does her intros its hilarious.
Peter Jackson did talk about the eagles and why they didnt fly the fellowship to Mordor. He said the eagles dont want to be treated as a taxi service. It would be beneath their dignity.
first the eagles would have been spotted miles away by sauron, then please remember that once the eagles have dropped them off sauron's army is there, even if the eagles did get by the naz*gul.
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yay part 2!!!
If one remembers the words of Gandalf concerning the one ring: "It wants to be found", then we can attribute some form of self awareness and agency on it's part. While in Gollum's possession it found itself residing in a cave for hundreds of years and when Bilbo came, it 'jumped' at the chance to find a new bearer - one whom could bring it into more favorable locales for 'rescue'.
Good one, Amanda! The Hobbit is a children's book that Tolkien wrote for his kids years before he even started thinking about writing LOTR. The tone of this story is lighter, sillier, and more like a fairy tale, though it does get darker towards the end. I think you will enjoy the way it develops. Thanks for sharing this. 🙂
Guillermo del Toro was originally hired to direct the entire Hobbit series. But he pulled out of the project.
I'm sure he expected the same 'carte' blanche' Jackson had with Lord of the Rings and sadly after he left, even Jackson had to suffer massive studio 'meddling'.
Looking forward to the rest of the reactions 😺
How lovely ...
Flying the eagles to mount doom is an old cliche "solution" from people who clearly don't understand the problem. The whole plan in LoTR was Sauron had to be kept in the dark. He had to have no clue they were trying to destroy the ring. Objective #1 right there, and that's VERY important. If he discovers the plan at any point, he secures mount doom with an army and wins by the long game. On top of that, the eagles couldn't invade Mordor. They wouldn't stand a chance. Sauron has all sorts of flying things at his disposal, bat, giant bats, carrion birds, drakes, so on. Not to mention Sauron himself has power. It's an absolute impossibility, but it's a common "gotcha" solution by people who don't understand the real story/problem/solution.
good reaction. And yes, the cgi is horrible in this. each year it ages twice as fast as LoTR and will continue to do so. And sadly, both trilogies have way too much estrogen in them, not too little. but that's SJW BS for you. vajyna-tokenism has been around for awhile.
I think part of the reason the CGI looks so off is because they planned out so much of it with 3D in mind and forgot to think about how 2D would look. The also doubled the frame rate for some reason iirc and that may have made CG slightly more complicated/ time consuming.
A bit of trivia for you, no dragons where harmed in the making of this movie.
Although Benedict Cumberbatch might have pulled a muscle or two...
That thumbnail face is pretty much the universal reaction to the second half of this movie I think.
Hahahaha, it doesn't surprise me.
Amanda has such a pretty smile😍
The eagles are not one of the free peoples of Middle Earth. They do not do whatever they want. They are Maiar, serving the deity Manwe. Gandalf can summon them because he too is one of the Maiar who serve Manwe. Just as Gandalf could not take the ring because it would corrupt him more easily and more powerfully than any Hobbit, so would any eagle that carried the ring be corrupted quickly and easily and would probably just fly the ring to Mordor, either to ally with Sauron or to do battle with him (and probably lose) which would end up giving Sauron the ring anyway. The eagle do only what Manwe has mandated them to do.
Just as there are many different races and tribes of humans, so it is with Uruks or Orcs. Some are taller, some are shorter, some more fair, some more dark. Etc, etc.
Thanks Amanda!
Well, well, well, thank you very much sir! :)
This movie shut up!.... love it!
Tolkien wrote these books based on his experience in WW1. So I think that may reflect in the characters. Il y a un manque de femmes. :)
20:17 That somebody in real life doesn't know what they were talking about. First off, the Eagles aren't simply at the beckon call of Gandalf. That came at personal cost. They are intelligent and have a society that is under attack. The allies of Sauron are on a pogrom to wipe out all the Great Eagles. To even spare one is at great cost to their own people. Sixty years before, they were more available, thus turning up more in the Hobbit than in chronologically subsequent movies.
Even beyond that, if they COULD spare the Eagles to get Sam and Frodo, they would have flown right into the Nazgul protecting Mordor on their Fellbeasts, as shown at the end of "The Two Towers." Unlike the Ring Wraiths, the Eagles aren't immortal. Even if they did manage to fight their way through a few, the Ring Wraiths will become MORE powerful as the Eagles weaken. They would have been killed by the Nazgul and given the Ring right back to Sauron.
You gotta react to extended edition of this movies.. cool reaction btw.
Fellas in the comments, drink some water.
Excellent français Amanda ! :)
Otra adventura y otra reaccion divertida, ahora para la segunda parte que creo que te va gustar mas. Vas a ver uno de tus favoritos regresar. Hasta la proxima.
best reaction of HOBBIT im ever seen ^.^
No, the Eagles could not take Frodo to Mount Doom! The power of the Ring would have corrupted the Eagle, and he would have dropped Frodo on his head. Or 10,000 Orc arrows would have killed the Eagle and dropped Frodo on his and head. Or The Nine Nazgul would have attacked the Eagle and again Frodo would have been dropped on his head. So, way too dangerous and so.... tell your friends who told you the Eagles could have taken Frodo to Mount Doom they are WRONG!
your reaction makes the movie so much better
Yes Amanda; do speak some french in ALL your reactions please! Thanx
imo, LOTR trilogy stands way above ANY other beloved trilogy... That fact, and that was far less "source" book material, AND more reliance on CGI (and much less on practical effects, such as models) all contribute to the TheHobbit not measuring up to LOTR.
Aside from wincing thru some of the most blatantly bad CGI here, I though the films were great for further exploring elves and dwarves, as well as the hostility between them. Cheers
_The fact that the included Gandalf in the thumbnail's lineup of uglies..._
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well damn. I wasn't expecting you to sound that sexy in French =P
I have a problem with the eagles both in the books and the films. They lack explanation or clear limitations. However I think Sauron would have flambeed them instantly if they came near Mordor.
Hahahahaha
You are distracting. So beautiful. That aside, while I do enjoy these movies, they don't have nearly the pull of Lord of the Rings and imo, it didn't need to be drawn out into 3 movies. But I am glad we have some more of this world on film. Excellent reaction as always!
Just think if Bilbo had killed Smeagol when he had the chance.
Then, when they decided to destroy the Ring in Mt. Doom, Gollum wouldn't be around to lead them around the main gates of Mordor. Gandalf said he still had a part to play.
Wtf
It's ironic that you're breaking a review for 3 movies based off of one book, into six separate reactions. 🤣
All fun aside, they really should have kept these at one, MAYBE two movies at most. They had to add so much filler that just wasn't in the book to compensate. Was clearly just another attempt at them milking the IP for more money.
Though, the more "New" content that comes out set in this universe, the better these hobbit movies look... Which speaks volumes about the state of shows and movies these days...
When it comes to a lack of women, these movies has some women in it (you see more later). The book literally does not have a single female character, not a one! No Galadriel, and certainly not the next woman you’ll see in the next movie. Closest thing is a few mentions - with great admiration - of Bilbo’s late mother Belladonna Took.
There are some less admiring mentions of Lobelia Sackville-Baggins as well.
The most frustrating thing about watching reaction channels is we're always in the comments saying "great Aliens reaction but don't bother with the following films" or whatever but every single reactor has to touch the fire to learn it's gonna burn. This is one of this times
The Hobbit is and always was a children's book. The LoTR was a more serious and mature book.
The Hobbit isn't bad when you watch it as a kid's movie.
There are sequels and prequels far worse than The Hobbit out there and in the end the decision to watch should be up to the viewer-reactor. If you're left frustrated you don't have to watch the video. Also Alien 3 is better than any Alien/Prometheus movie after it.
it looks like you're in the gd mf'n shire
God you are so beautiful