Great comparison and demonstration. I disconnected/connected a 1025R loader at my dealer solely from your instruction. My dealer was "impressed". Then I told him TTWT was a good teacher!
Thanks again Tim from a new BX owner! That single point connector does make it easy but if mine continues to have a leaking problem it's all for nothing. You are doing a tremendous and honest job and anyone who is thinking about their first tractor they have you to thank. I may be talking to our buddy at GWT in a couple of years! ;) Thanks again!!
Nice job Tim as always. I am on my second 1025r TLB since 2014. This is first correct loader on and off video I have ever seen. As per first dealer delivery show and tell, I too have used my foot to work the locks,after lifting the front wheels with curl. I have never gone far enough to auto snap the locks back. I knew why I always watch tour videos, you actually know what you are talking about. I wish it was not 9:30 pm and raining outside or I would go outside and give the right way a try. Thank you for the teaching moment.
I strongly agree, Tim you are a great, professional guy who produces excellent content video’s and I too especially enjoy all you do. Definitely looking forward to your backhoe comparisons. Even though connecting and disconnecting the hydraulic couplings for the bh is more difficult for me than the single connection for the loader, I find the bh vastly easier to put on or remove than the loader and bucket. You’ve got a really nice family and functioning as a family unit in your video’s is wonderful. Keep up all your great work, God bless all of you and looking forward to your next episode.
Just wondering since the bucket on the loader on the BX was a little further out if it would allow you to dump a load a little further in a trailer etc.
A good comparison of the loaders. Thanks. I agree that the single point connector makes it so much easier for the hydraulic lines connection and disconnection.
Agree about the JD bucket level indicator. Brilliant! I love analog technology like that. My gas gauge on my Ford 640 was a 14" dowel with Sharpie lines for 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 full. It never failed to give me a good measurement. Same system for my fuel oil tank(s). But that involves a stick with a string loop and a nail in a stud so that it hangs beside a yardstick on the wall beside the tank(s) with a soup-can underneath (to catch the drips). Always reliable. Never gets jammed or befuddled. Use your feet for the release of the JD loader clamps (but then I'm 6'2" and have long legs). This, and the mower deck automatic coupling, impressed me to no end at the JD dealer.
Single point connector....hope someone from JD is watching this & listening to what owners/potential owners want. That is the only thing i dislike about my 1025r. Love this comparison video series Tim, as always thanks so much for sharing. Have a great day!
And Deere knows all about single point hydraulic connectors as they use them to connect the header to the combine's hydraulic system. You'd think they'd adapt that kind of design throughout all of their equipment where it's applicable. On my equipment, I ended up putting different colored zip ties on all of the hydraulic hoses & connectors so everything is color coded and I don't have to try and remember where the hoses go for the back hoe as opposed to the power rake, etc. I just match the color on the implement connector to the color on the tractor's hydraulic connectors.
i love it you change hats when you change hats. yes there is a learning curve to the bx .ive made a mess of my pretty orange tractor, the loader arms crossed over the hood and made a mess of my hood and wiped out my very flimsy brush guard .i`ve replaced most of the stand arms and hammered out the brush guard ..i see quite a few bx owners replace the guard with something more substantial or in my case will fabricate my own. lesson learned.
2 things!! Nice orange hat! AND just wanted to tell you that you can actually put the loader locks in the locked position when you re-attach the loader.. the locks will simply lift up and click into place which is nice because it gives you an indicator when your locks are fully seated. If you do this you will hear 2 distinct clicks when re-attaching the loader.
I have a bx 1500 and it does all that i need it to do. Although if i had a deere it would do it also moral of this is it doesnt matter what tractor you have as long as you have one 😁. Keep on tractoring on really enjoying your videos.
Nicely done. I have a bucket level indicator on my B2650, but I have never actually used it. I always forget to look at it. The top of the bucket is level with the bottom and I just use that. Or I lean over to one side to see around the bucket to the front edge. BTW, I really enjoy your videos. You do a great job making them, and have good variety of jobs and projects to show.
Great videos, Tim. I've been watching this series and they've led me to purchase a 1025r. On the 2023 model, they've made the hydraulic loader hoses quick disconnect standard which is a nice feature and just like the Kubota now. Thanks again and can't wait to get to work on my 1025r in a couple days
I keep my tractor in neutral when detaching the loader. This way, instead of the loader and stand sliding forward, the tractor rolls backward slightly. This is important for me as I park my loader with the bucket close to a wall and I don't want it moving forward and hitting the wall. I've never found pressure in the lines to be an issue when disconnecting, but it certainly causes problems when reconnecting.
I agree that pressurized lines are hard to reconnect on my 1025R. Does the Kubota single point connector have enough mechanical leverage to overcome pressurized lines?
Brilliant stuff Tim! My only problem is given how good you are at this comparison stuff I’d personally love to see how the MF GC1720 TLB stacks up. A lot of the stuff you have shown is information that you literally can’t find anywhere else unless you had the two tractors side by side and do exactly what you are doing. Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks for the loader tips on the Deere. New owner of a 2025r here. On mine the loader cannot move until the pawls lock down when taking it off. Not enough length on the hoses. Does not seem to matter. The tip about putting them down before I put the loader back on though is a huge help. I cannot reach the pawls from the seat. The loader is a little further forward on the 2025r with the extra length. Also the tip about using the steering to move the loader slightly left or right when putting it on. Huge help! Thanks.
Yes JD needs to get that single point loader attachment, I have to fight with it every time. ? if the Kubota didn't have the skid steer bucket attachment how much more would it be able to lift, correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall that the option added about 200 lbs to that bucket.
The subcompact version of the skid steer bucket setup is not built like a normal skid steer setup! A skid steer is more robust design overall. It's overall design fits the purpose of a subcompact tractor
Love your channel. You are the only one who states to lift the loader until mast locks snap in place on their own. I have watched many videos (mostly from dealerships) that don't cover that at all.
Great series, anyone planning on a subcompact should take the time to view this series. I just found the channel and started the series. I have learned a lot. I owned a Kubota and JD. The JD was a 1026R, I sold my Kubota the buy the JD. Last year I traded the 1026R for a 2038R. My 1026R did not have a loader, but I liked the JD much better than the Kubota so I went with JD again. My 2038R has a loader and the JD version of the Hydro Quick Connect. I like it better than the Kubota in your video. I don't see why that option is not available on the 1025R.
I sure appreciate all the work you've put into these videos. I am in the market for a small tractor and had been going back and forth as to whether green or orange fit my needs best. I feel well informed now, much appreciated, well done! And thanks to Good Works Tractors for loaning the BX.
Another small advantage of the Kubota loader stand design is that the stand does not get in the way of a front weight bracket. It appears that you could leave such a bracket installed when the loader is attached, but I must remove mine from my 1025R when I attached the loader.
Use the curl to unhook the Kubota loader, not the lift cilinder..... so the singel connector is in reach and the stands have less weight to handle.. They Kubota fel don't slide over the concrete..
With regard to the hooks for the loader, when I initially got my tractor my dealer told me to use my foot to kind of kick thee releases up, this works really well and makes the disconnect a lot easier.
Tim, one thing that dawned on me, and I have never heard anyone make the observation - on an skid loader you can pull up to an implement, stand up from the seat of the loader and kick the latch levers into the lock position, sit back down and away you go. This is NOT possible on a tractor, you WILL get off the tractor and walk around to the front of the loader to latch the locks into position. For me this reduces the advantage of SSQA. Thanks for the article! Jim
Good job. Don't worry about the immature kids who get mad when you don't say their toy is superior in every way. Just tell them to grow up. I have used the Kubota, but my next will be a used 1025r Deere. I would have got another Kubota BX23r if a used one of those came up first. Who cares what brand we own or if another has some better features. We should just be thankful for the awesome machines we get to use.
Great Video as always Tim. Yes, would love to see the curl test with these two competitors. These comparisons between the two tractors are the most in depth I have seen to date. Hopefully GWT will allow you to keep the Kubota long enough to compare each of every feature on both competitors. For me, I am still looking at buying the JD 2025r next spring. Being recently, semi-retired, I need something to do as you are. Being able to help others out with a tractor and make a little bit of money in the process as well as doing things for myself as needed is a no brainer. To me, as you said in a previous video, the 2025r seems to have a longer wheelbase and feels more stable, but also the frame and front axle is a little more beefier than the 1025r, which I am hoping means it will last longer before wearing out and has less likely chance of bending the stronger or larger axle if a large load if on the loader or forks. Maybe you can compare the two (1025r v 2025r) with what stands out to you as the differences and the thoughts for the extra roughly $2000 price increase from the 1025r and the 2025r.
Great episode on the loaders Tim. It's great how un-biased you are while you compare these 2 highly competitive tractors. As much as I do like the the one point connection on the kubota, one thing I did notice that was left out that is a huge deal to me is that with the Deere it uses standard hydraulic couplings that can run other implements such as a log splitter or hydraulic height control on a pull type implement. Yes you can customize the kubota to make it happen but it's much more difficult and more money. The Deere has that versatility right out the door. Thanks for all the great content. I have used a lot of your info with my 1025 TLB.
Great comparison. I have owned two BX's (BX24 & BX2660) and love them both. I know own a JD 1023E which I love. When using the BX loader it seems like it is easier to tip over than the JD. I think it might maybe because the loader is father out away from the tractor. It also seem that the BX is quicker to spin the tires.
Hey Tim, for comparison, I'd love to know the distance from the bucket lip to the loader/mast pivot point. Measuring to the front wheels might be a good measure of C.G. differences if the loader arms are the same. - Just curious!
To me these videos clearly show how much better the Deere is. The Kubota is a one trick pony with the single point connection. With that said my neighbor swears by his Kubota. So to each their own. I am happy we have great options to choose from. Enjoy your Kubota!
love the info thanks. got my first tractor at 52. i got a sa324 yanmar cause it was a 2017 with backhoe at half new price. thanks 4 the vids. how does it stack up?its 24hp
Another great video I have a 1025r and dident know about letting the levers click back in when you take the loader off glad i watched. Also john deere makes a similar single point connector not sure if its avalible on sub compact though.
Tim, I find curl capacity to be of similar importance to lift capacity. I found, on my old BX, the curl capacity was lacking and when I was into a heavy pile of dirt I sometimes had a difficult time breaking it out. I no longer have this issue with my new B2601 which had dual curl cylinders.
Tim, I just bought a 1025r a year ago and would love a video on how to take the new 260B Backhoe off properly my dealer never showed me the proper way thanks!
Do the JD owners have an issue with the scratches that build up on the loader stand? The face of the tractor is the loader stand in which makes direct contact to the ground.
Tractors are tools, I understand they will be placed in situations that scratch and dent them. Both tractors are fantastic and I would love to own either but the JD system places what is seemingly a front part of the tractor on the ground. It’s inadvertently destroyed over time through its design.
It's a robust design! I personally see it as added protection to the front end. I've had boulders roll into it that has made me cringe and all it's done is damage the paint
iam wondering why deere does not make a quik attach system for the hydraulics of the smaller tractors, the bigger loaders already got that for a while now...
I’ve watched a few of your videos and they are great. As a Kubota fan you make compelling points for Green. At times distraction occurs with Features like size or mass of metal, etc. ... I’d say the engineering works or it doesn’t to deliver benefit. I’m laughing at myself because green appears to be the way to go ... but I wouldn’t give up my Kubota bx2680. Thanks Tim.
Perhaps I should have explained just a bit more. We have heard of many more loader booms bent on Kubota BX machines than on Deere machines. Even though the loader won't lift as much, the tractor can push as hard...and can get the loader into a bind. Once bent, the loader boom cannot usually be straightened.
Your doing such a great job with side by sides I’d avoid chasing rumors ... if that were to happen my guess is Kubota would make good even though it was most likely operator error. By the way super impressed how skillfully you put the loader back on. It’s easy but for someone that doesnt do it a lot you have skill.
High Tim, your videos have been very helpful to me. I currently have a Kubota bx 2380 on order along with loader and landpride reverse tine tiller . Price is $15500. Recently I came across a 2018 Deere 1025R with quick hitch and loader with on 30 hours on machine and shipping plastic still on the seat. I can buy this for $14250, then I need to buy a tiller. There is some power train warranty left on the deere, but no bumper to bumper. Which do you recoment I buy ? Your opinion really means a lot to me, Thanks Rick Myers
Nice review. Does the deere have the bobcat style levers to attach and detach the bucket like Kubota does? Also are those redwing Pecos slip ons you are wearing? I love my redwing pecos.
No, Deere uses JDQA. You can see it up close, and get a good description of why it is used here: tractortimewithtim.com/2019/01/27/skid-steer-quick-attach-vs-jdqa/ No, I wear Ariat boots.
I knew it! Remember when we were at the tractor show a few years ago and we looked at the new 2038R and the Kubota? I could tell then that the orange didn't use as thick of steel as the green, just by the feel. Thank you! I feel better now. LOL!!
That's ABSOLUTELY irrelevant on it's own. Common steel grade in ISO is S235 (with 235 MPa yield strength), loaded agricultural parts are often made of S355 (50% stronger), but grades up to 700 (!) MPaare not exception. Obviously stronger steel costs more, it takes a bit of brain to figure out best options. The 2nd point to look would be the design - Kubota is using more elaborate design with a variable section, which basically follows momentum load along the section. It's stronger where it needs and weaker where extra steel would be just a dead weight. There are more details such as the type of section and type of it's production process (rolling, welding,...). So measuring doesn't really says anything. To exagerrate it, 1mm steel is gonna be way more stronger than 10mm of paper.
Good comparison. I do see one disadvantage of the Deere parking stand that may or may not be an issue for some. That being when the loader is hooked onto the tractor, the parking stand bar would have visual scuff and scratch marks showing quite prominently when looking at the front of the tractor. Nothing a slit piece of rubber hose or box liner spray paint wouldn't remedy however. Keep up the good work Tim!
Before reconnecting the hyd lines, I squirt some starting fluid around to make sure everything is clean. The deere's rubber plugs seem to grow legs at times. Yeppers it's all a manner of choice, I prefer the good ole JD tractors, but will agree the Kubota is a good tractor also. Good vid TTWT...
I have recently discovered that gravel roads need to be rolled for maintenance. What size tractor would be needed to maintain a 12-14 foot wide driveway using a scraper designed to roll/mix gravel roads?
Question could be a whole series on its own. Depends on how fast you want to do it, and if you have special needs like a ditch to maintain. I used a heavy duty garden tractor (Case 220) for many years. Took about 3 hours using a box blade to grade about 400 feet of gravel driveway after a winters worth of washout. The Massey Ferguson 1215 I now use will do a better job in about 20 minutes. Its heavier weight allows it to cut deeper each pass. My brother had over 2 miles with ditches and used a road grader (Austin Western 301 super).
@@robb1165 Thanks for those suggestions. I'm wanting to roll/mix it so a box blade would not be adequate unless it can be angled at 30-45 degrees for the necessary rolling/mixing of road materials. I'll also we wanting the gravel driveway to have a 4% slope as is recommended for proper drainage by most States.
Hey Tim. Another great comparison. Is the level indicator on the JD standard? It’s not on the BX, but I got it for $40 added on and it works exactly like the Deere’s. The dealer laughed at the sad attempt at a level indicator sticker and adds on the level rod by default unless a buyer specifically doesn’t want it.
Yes, standard on 1025r. I didn’t realize it was such an inexpensive option on the bx until someone else mentioned in the comments. ...otherwise I would not have made such a big deal of it.
I’ve enjoyed the comparison between the Deere an kobotta tractors how ever... I have a mahindra for a few good reasons. First of all I do not make a living with my tractor so hooking up buckets ect in a fast manor dose not alpply to be. I like the fact that yes, I have to get off of my tractor, pull pins to drop my loader stand, manually select what adjustment to set my stand and then go back and pull both mast pins then get on the tractor lower the bucket to get the masts out of the holders then discount the hydraulic hoses then do all the above in reverse. Seems like a lot of steps and I agree that to some folks that would be a problem. But the point here I’m trying to make is I have a problem with a lot of equipment that is (quote in quote) automatic. I just think that some of the (Automatic) features look great in the beginning but what happens with wear and tear. Some of y’all might think I’m crazy but in my opinion if I have to get off of my tractor to install its equipment then it’s going to force me to inspect my tractor to insure that I’ve installed that equipment properly and safely. The point that I’m trying to make here is we as consumers who buy these tractors should by them to suit their needs and lifestyles. My opinion is you couldn’t give m a John Deere because it’s plastic. Me and plastic don’t get along. You also couldn’t give me a tractor with hydrostatic drive... I don’t like them. Here again different strokes for different folks.. keep up the good work Tim
Ok, I guess I can summarize your comment as follows: "My tractor is better because the loader is harder to take off. My tractor is better because I have to shift gears each time to change direction (or speed) of travel". I'll not even try to debate that Robert because it seems absurd to me. However, I DO very much appreciate you watching, and appreciate your comments!
Thanks Tim for another great Video. I do believe the 1025R has the better of the two park stands. The park stand on the Deere loader supports the boom sections in the air and distributes the weight more evenly. Where the Kubota loader park stands would probably sink into softer soils if removed anywhere other than a paved surface. This due to the amount of weight hanging to the rear of the park stand pushing down on the rear of the stand foot pads. Thanks again. FYI I have found several manufacturers if a multi-port hydraulic connector. Just waiting on their reply’s to my inquiry.
You mentioned in a previous video that the bx was leaking hydraulic fluid on the right side by the foot pedals. It is probably coming from the swiftach. I have a bx23s with that has had a warranty replacement of that manifold, so the leak is probably from that. Btw, it still leaks a little bit.
Another good comparison. All tractors have their good and bad points. Just a matter of whom the dealer is and how they take care of you. Oh, of course the price has a large part to play also.
Tim (and all tractor lovers). I went to test drive a 2025R a couple weeks ago. I was told that the sales manager had just been to a John Deere "meeting" and that the same "single point" hydraulic connection that is currently offered on the larger 2R series is going to be available in ALL "R" series tractors very soon (including the 1025R and 2025R). Might be good for me that I'm waiting until spring to buy a tractor!
Reverse flow cooling, a steel one-piece hood and a better mowing deck sold me on orange. The ROPS, over abundance of safety switches and plastic hood on the green pushed me towards orange. The green IS a better tractor but the orange is a better mower. I cheated and bumped the hydro pressure on my BX so it has 200# more lift.
Can you mow in reverse on the BX? You can on the JD, but you have to lift the PTO engagement knob. With the shorter turning radius of the JD I'd argue that it's a better mower.
You can have the safety switches bypassed before the delivery truck is back to the hard road. The ability to bump my hydro forward or back with my hand while standing next to the tractor is very convenient when pulling shrubs, repositioning the backhoe, etc.
That bucket level indicator on the JD is an absolute deal maker for me. My primary use of my 1023E is snowplowing condo complexes with the loader and I cant even imagine not knowing the position of the bucket. While most of the driveways are plowed with a level bucket using the float position on the hills I use the bucket angled down slightly to get the best scraping ability I can. Works great on the ice and most times even negates the need for sanding. Getting up close to the buildings/garages etc the bucket is then angled down more to allow for back dragging like a snow blade...which again is all determined by the bucket indicator for me. The JD indicator also works perfect in order to see it from the Original cab co. cab I put on it. In fairness to the BX however..someone down below did mention there is an add on kit for that. If you get a chance it would be interesting to hear more about that as this could be a very big deal for a BX buyer IMO. Overall I think your series on this issue has been outstanding. I have to give the win to JD for 3 things mainly.... the foot pedals for fwd/reverse on the JD vs. the rocker. The bucket indicator which is a must have....and...I think the extra width of the JD is very important for safety. For me also the length issue is a big deal as I cant even put on a ballast box due to limited storage room in my garage. The WIN= JD (although I have to then give it to the 1023E vs the 1025R for the cost savings). :)
Another great video! I do have concerns with the results you're getting out of this BX. It doesn't seem like it was treated very well at all by it's previous owner. I also have a BX2680, I've never taken the time to check pressure or check what it can absolutely lift. However we use it on a small horse farm and move 4x4 round bails, can easily stack 20-30 at a time to full height. Lift a 55gal drum of diesel in and out of a 1ton truck. Just not sure we are seeing typical results here with the loader specifically. At any rate it's still great to see the differences these two particular machines have.
For sure, I'm not doubting your work! Just really surprised to see the low results on the loader, just hasn't been our experience. Thanks for the video! We are in the market for another tractor, been eyeing the green line too.... Who knows!
As much as I like that single point connection on the BX, there are far to many advantages to the Deere. I’ve got over 300 hours on my 2013 1025R and I would only trade it for a bigger machine, but for its size it hard to beat in its abilities. Thanks for the great video series Tim!
My grill guard is bent also. I had parked the loader on less than level ground and when trying to reattach it I got one side locked in and not the other. While I was trying to get the other side in position to lock in, the arm of the loader pushed over against the grill guard and bent it just enough that the Transformers looking BX grill guard will not fit into the clips on that side. Not a real big deal but I hate that grill guard. The guards on the 2x70's looked better and seemed to be a bit more heavy duty, so I am unsure why the changed them. I also lost a c-clip on the loader stand and as a temporary fix used a piece of copper wire twisted tight to keep it in place. A few days later I stopped by the dealer and they gave me a new clip but my wire is still holding tight so I haven't taken the time to change it out. I love the quick attach loader valve. I never release the pressure and, though it would be a little easier to hook it back up with the pressure gone, never have an issue releasing or reattaching it.
I started to show a comparison of connecting the loader when slightly unlevel. The Deere works much better in that scenario, but I could not find a way to show it 100%, so I abandoned the plan. I have had significant difficulty attaching the bx bucket because I didn’t pay much attention to the levelness of the surface....never needed to with the 1025r. I just didn’t want to mention it in fear of being ‘unfair’ when I couldn’t reliably show the difference.
@@TractorTimewithTim, I have never used the Deere system but as a BX owner it is 100% fair to say that the BX system favors level ground. You really do have to pay attention when you sit it down.
Mounted a FASTER four port unit like Tim’s families combine header disconnect on my 1025r. It takes +- 12 seconds to remove the loader and never leaving the seat while doing so.
Hey Tim, have you considered retrofitting a single point connector onto Johnny? Some guys on the Green forums have done it, but the parts are on the pricy side.
Tim I'm going to by a 40 hp bobcat utility tractor. You need to go look at these new tractors bobcat is now making. And show us the features. Thanks TIM
Kubota B-series would actually be a better comparison to the 1025 but it's also a slightly bigger michine. Not by much, but still a little bigger. The B also allows a guy to do more "tractor things" than the BX. But, what are the BX's made for? Mostly suburban homeowners with large yards and long driveways to plow in winter...guys that use it primarily for mowing and want more capability than the large belt-driven garden tractors. If you own 3-5 acres and need to use the loader often, need a backhoe, rear PTO implements, etc. that's when the 1025 and B-series really shine. But you guys really did a great job on these reviews. I'm a Kubota owner because it fits my needs better and it was considerably cheaper than the Deere. And boy, it really does the job. I've got an 1870 and even with a tiny tractor like that I never run out of power. I lose traction before I run out of power. But like you say, you really can't go wrong with either one.
That's a good lookin' hat!
Thanks very much for making this test possible!
Yes agreed thank you for making this happen!!! Good works
Does Tim have to turn in the orange hat when he gives you back your BX?!?!
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@@TractorTimewithTim a!
The great thing about comparisons like this is it compels the manufacturers to up their game. Good job Tim!
Great comparison and demonstration. I disconnected/connected a 1025R loader at my dealer solely from your instruction. My dealer was "impressed". Then I told him TTWT was a good teacher!
Thanks for the kind words!!
FYI there is a bucket level kit that is designed to work with that level spot label on the BX
Thanks again Tim from a new BX owner! That single point connector does make it easy but if mine continues to have a leaking problem it's all for nothing. You are doing a tremendous and honest job and anyone who is thinking about their first tractor they have you to thank. I may be talking to our buddy at GWT in a couple of years! ;) Thanks again!!
contact your dealer. I think there has been redesigns to fix the leaking. I believe the warranty will fix.
Thanks Tim. Will do!!
Nice job Tim as always. I am on my second 1025r TLB since 2014. This is first correct loader on and off video I have ever seen. As per first dealer delivery show and tell, I too have used my foot to work the locks,after lifting the front wheels with curl. I have never gone far enough to auto snap the locks back. I knew why I always watch tour videos, you actually know what you are talking about. I wish it was not 9:30 pm and raining outside or I would go outside and give the right way a try. Thank you for the teaching moment.
Thanks for the kind words.
All of your videos are very educational and entertaining, not to mention the scripture at the end of every video. Thanks Tim and Kristie.
Thanks Aaron!
I strongly agree, Tim you are a great, professional guy who produces excellent content video’s and I too especially enjoy all you do. Definitely looking forward to your backhoe comparisons. Even though connecting and disconnecting the hydraulic couplings for the bh is more difficult for me than the single connection for the loader, I find the bh vastly easier to put on or remove than the loader and bucket. You’ve got a really nice family and functioning as a family unit in your video’s is wonderful. Keep up all your great work, God bless all of you and looking forward to your next episode.
Thanks Phil. I would not be able to produce the videos, and TTWT would cease to exist without Christy.
Just wondering since the bucket on the loader on the BX was a little further out if it would allow you to dump a load a little further in a trailer etc.
As the bucket raises, it is not extended out as far. I should show that.
A good comparison of the loaders. Thanks. I agree that the single point connector makes it so much easier for the hydraulic lines connection and disconnection.
Agree about the JD bucket level indicator. Brilliant! I love analog technology like that. My gas gauge on my Ford 640 was a 14" dowel with Sharpie lines for 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 full. It never failed to give me a good measurement. Same system for my fuel oil tank(s). But that involves a stick with a string loop and a nail in a stud so that it hangs beside a yardstick on the wall beside the tank(s) with a soup-can underneath (to catch the drips). Always reliable. Never gets jammed or befuddled.
Use your feet for the release of the JD loader clamps (but then I'm 6'2" and have long legs). This, and the mower deck automatic coupling, impressed me to no end at the JD dealer.
Single point connector....hope someone from JD is watching this & listening to what owners/potential owners want. That is the only thing i dislike about my 1025r. Love this comparison video series Tim, as always thanks so much for sharing. Have a great day!
And Deere knows all about single point hydraulic connectors as they use them to connect the header to the combine's hydraulic system. You'd think they'd adapt that kind of design throughout all of their equipment where it's applicable. On my equipment, I ended up putting different colored zip ties on all of the hydraulic hoses & connectors so everything is color coded and I don't have to try and remember where the hoses go for the back hoe as opposed to the power rake, etc. I just match the color on the implement connector to the color on the tractor's hydraulic connectors.
i love it you change hats when you change hats. yes there is a learning curve to the bx .ive made a mess of my pretty orange tractor, the loader arms crossed over the hood and made a mess of my hood and wiped out my very flimsy brush guard .i`ve replaced most of the stand arms and hammered out the brush guard ..i see quite a few bx owners replace the guard with something more substantial or in my case will fabricate my own. lesson learned.
2 things!! Nice orange hat! AND just wanted to tell you that you can actually put the loader locks in the locked position when you re-attach the loader.. the locks will simply lift up and click into place which is nice because it gives you an indicator when your locks are fully seated. If you do this you will hear 2 distinct clicks when re-attaching the loader.
I have a bx 1500 and it does all that i need it to do. Although if i had a deere it would do it also moral of this is it doesnt matter what tractor you have as long as you have one 😁. Keep on tractoring on really enjoying your videos.
Great information Tim. Good to see both loaders in action side by side. This whole series has been a great comparison.
Nicely done. I have a bucket level indicator on my B2650, but I have never actually used it. I always forget to look at it. The top of the bucket is level with the bottom and I just use that. Or I lean over to one side to see around the bucket to the front edge. BTW, I really enjoy your videos. You do a great job making them, and have good variety of jobs and projects to show.
Learn to use the bucket level indicator. It will make life much easier.
Thank you again for these valued videos, I have appreciated everyone. Have a wonderful holiday.
Great videos, Tim. I've been watching this series and they've led me to purchase a 1025r. On the 2023 model, they've made the hydraulic loader hoses quick disconnect standard which is a nice feature and just like the Kubota now. Thanks again and can't wait to get to work on my 1025r in a couple days
Congratulations!
Great job, Tim. I really like seeing them both function side by side like this, detaching and attaching.
I keep my tractor in neutral when detaching the loader. This way, instead of the loader and stand sliding forward, the tractor rolls backward slightly. This is important for me as I park my loader with the bucket close to a wall and I don't want it moving forward and hitting the wall. I've never found pressure in the lines to be an issue when disconnecting, but it certainly causes problems when reconnecting.
That's what I do also
Same , also use my boot to kick the loader locks open on the JD , easier than using my hand
That’s how my dealer showed me, too.
I agree that pressurized lines are hard to reconnect on my 1025R. Does the Kubota single point connector have enough mechanical leverage to overcome pressurized lines?
P Tek yes it does. Not from the seat though, I had to get off and muscle it from the side but it worked
Brilliant stuff Tim!
My only problem is given how good you are at this comparison stuff I’d personally love to see how the MF GC1720 TLB stacks up.
A lot of the stuff you have shown is information that you literally can’t find anywhere else unless you had the two tractors side by side and do exactly what you are doing.
Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks for the loader tips on the Deere. New owner of a 2025r here. On mine the loader cannot move until the pawls lock down when taking it off. Not enough length on the hoses. Does not seem to matter. The tip about putting them down before I put the loader back on though is a huge help. I cannot reach the pawls from the seat. The loader is a little further forward on the 2025r with the extra length.
Also the tip about using the steering to move the loader slightly left or right when putting it on. Huge help!
Thanks.
Thanks for another great comparison!
Yes JD needs to get that single point loader attachment, I have to fight with it every time. ? if the Kubota didn't have the skid steer bucket attachment how much more would it be able to lift, correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall that the option added about 200 lbs to that bucket.
80-90lbs
The subcompact version of the skid steer bucket setup is not built like a normal skid steer setup! A skid steer is more robust design overall. It's overall design fits the purpose of a subcompact tractor
Love your channel. You are the only one who states to lift the loader until mast locks snap in place on their own.
I have watched many videos (mostly from dealerships) that don't cover that at all.
Not sure why they neglect this. The book specifically calls it out, and this is the only way to relieve pressure from the lines.
Great series, anyone planning on a subcompact should take the time to view this series. I just found the channel and started the series. I have learned a lot. I owned a Kubota and JD. The JD was a 1026R, I sold my Kubota the buy the JD. Last year I traded the 1026R for a 2038R. My 1026R did not have a loader, but I liked the JD much better than the Kubota so I went with JD again. My 2038R has a loader and the JD version of the Hydro Quick Connect. I like it better than the Kubota in your video. I don't see why that option is not available on the 1025R.
The single point is now available for the 1025r.
Thanks for watching. Welcome to our channel.. hopefully you can check out some off our other videos!
I sure appreciate all the work you've put into these videos. I am in the market for a small tractor and had been going back and forth as to whether green or orange fit my needs best. I feel well informed now, much appreciated, well done! And thanks to Good Works Tractors for loaning the BX.
You did a great job of showing the systems each company uses to remove their bucket Tim.
Very helpful and love the Bible verse, again!
Another small advantage of the Kubota loader stand design is that the stand does not get in the way of a front weight bracket. It appears that you could leave such a bracket installed when the loader is attached, but I must remove mine from my 1025R when I attached the loader.
I don't think it is possible to be more fair than you have been on these videos. GO KUBOTA! Thanks Tim! Kevin
wonderful unbiased video as usual -- very helpful and well done!
Use the curl to unhook the Kubota loader, not the lift cilinder..... so the singel connector is in reach and the stands have less weight to handle.. They Kubota fel don't slide over the concrete..
Love the saying/proverb.
With regard to the hooks for the loader, when I initially got my tractor my dealer told me to use my foot to kind of kick thee releases up, this works really well and makes the disconnect a lot easier.
John that is what I do as well on my JD2320. Works well.
Tim, one thing that dawned on me, and I have never heard anyone make the observation - on an skid loader you can pull up to an implement, stand up from the seat of the loader and kick the latch levers into the lock position, sit back down and away you go. This is NOT possible on a tractor, you WILL get off the tractor and walk around to the front of the loader to latch the locks into position. For me this reduces the advantage of SSQA. Thanks for the article! Jim
Good job. Don't worry about the immature kids who get mad when you don't say their toy is superior in every way. Just tell them to grow up. I have used the Kubota, but my next will be a used 1025r Deere. I would have got another Kubota BX23r if a used one of those came up first. Who cares what brand we own or if another has some better features. We should just be thankful for the awesome machines we get to use.
The farther out loader is great for loading or u loading out of a trailer or truck
He thinks this advantage has no merit.
Yet another good video. Honest👍
On the BX, what are those big bolts on each side of the loaders arms near where the parking stand attaches? They look like some sort of adjustment.
Great Video as always Tim. Yes, would love to see the curl test with these two competitors. These comparisons between the two tractors are the most in depth I have seen to date. Hopefully GWT will allow you to keep the Kubota long enough to compare each of every feature on both competitors. For me, I am still looking at buying the JD 2025r next spring. Being recently, semi-retired, I need something to do as you are. Being able to help others out with a tractor and make a little bit of money in the process as well as doing things for myself as needed is a no brainer. To me, as you said in a previous video, the 2025r seems to have a longer wheelbase and feels more stable, but also the frame and front axle is a little more beefier than the 1025r, which I am hoping means it will last longer before wearing out and has less likely chance of bending the stronger or larger axle if a large load if on the loader or forks. Maybe you can compare the two (1025r v 2025r) with what stands out to you as the differences and the thoughts for the extra roughly $2000 price increase from the 1025r and the 2025r.
A man with many hats.
Great episode on the loaders Tim. It's great how un-biased you are while you compare these 2 highly competitive tractors. As much as I do like the the one point connection on the kubota, one thing I did notice that was left out that is a huge deal to me is that with the Deere it uses standard hydraulic couplings that can run other implements such as a log splitter or hydraulic height control on a pull type implement. Yes you can customize the kubota to make it happen but it's much more difficult and more money. The Deere has that versatility right out the door. Thanks for all the great content. I have used a lot of your info with my 1025 TLB.
The man of many hats.
Great comparison. I have owned two BX's (BX24 & BX2660) and love them both. I know own a JD 1023E
which I love. When using the BX loader it seems like it is easier to tip over than the JD. I think it might maybe because the loader is father out away from the tractor. It also seem that the BX is quicker to spin the tires.
Yes, curl test please!!
Also, another great video...thanks
Hey Tim, for comparison, I'd love to know the distance from the bucket lip to the loader/mast pivot point. Measuring to the front wheels might be a good measure of C.G. differences if the loader arms are the same. - Just curious!
Denise, I'll do that in an update episode. Thanks!
Great unbiased comparison! clearly kubota is BY FAR a better tractor I cringed with the scraping bucket on concrete.
To me these videos clearly show how much better the Deere is. The Kubota is a one trick pony with the single point connection. With that said my neighbor swears by his Kubota. So to each their own. I am happy we have great options to choose from. Enjoy your Kubota!
love the info thanks. got my first tractor at 52. i got a sa324 yanmar cause it was a 2017 with backhoe at half new price. thanks 4 the vids. how does it stack up?its 24hp
Another great video I have a 1025r and dident know about letting the levers click back in when you take the loader off glad i watched. Also john deere makes a similar single point connector not sure if its avalible on sub compact though.
Another great video! A true professional.
Do you think you could get your hands on a frontier av20f grapple? There are not very many videos about them.
Not interested. So far, I’ve seen more than one bent up. Go with the Artillian!
Another fantastic video. Oh....and “yes” on the curl test,!
Tim, I find curl capacity to be of similar importance to lift capacity. I found, on my old BX, the curl capacity was lacking and when I was into a heavy pile of dirt I sometimes had a difficult time breaking it out. I no longer have this issue with my new B2601 which had dual curl cylinders.
Great video
What's the look at the loader bucked from the seat?
Good point...I should show that...especially the pallet forks. Can't see the forks at all from the seat on the BX
Tim, I just bought a 1025r a year ago and would love a video on how to take the new 260B Backhoe off properly my dealer never showed me the proper way thanks!
Just like the older 260. Check out my ‘Ultimate Transformer Toy’ series.
Do the JD owners have an issue with the scratches that build up on the loader stand? The face of the tractor is the loader stand in which makes direct contact to the ground.
Personally I do not! I have over 450 hours on mine and use it as a tractor. I have more scraps from hitting rocks than removing the frame
Tractors are tools, I understand they will be placed in situations that scratch and dent them. Both tractors are fantastic and I would love to own either but the JD system places what is seemingly a front part of the tractor on the ground. It’s inadvertently destroyed over time through its design.
It's a robust design! I personally see it as added protection to the front end. I've had boulders roll into it that has made me cringe and all it's done is damage the paint
iam wondering why deere does not make a quik attach system for the hydraulics of the smaller tractors, the bigger loaders already got that for a while now...
They will soon!
@@TractorTimewithTim really?Wow that sound great, thanks Tim!:)
I’ve watched a few of your videos and they are great. As a Kubota fan you make compelling points for Green. At times distraction occurs with Features like size or mass of metal, etc. ... I’d say the engineering works or it doesn’t to deliver benefit. I’m laughing at myself because green appears to be the way to go ... but I wouldn’t give up my Kubota bx2680. Thanks Tim.
Perhaps I should have explained just a bit more. We have heard of many more loader booms bent on Kubota BX machines than on Deere machines.
Even though the loader won't lift as much, the tractor can push as hard...and can get the loader into a bind. Once bent, the loader boom cannot usually be straightened.
Your doing such a great job with side by sides I’d avoid chasing rumors ... if that were to happen my guess is Kubota would make good even though it was most likely operator error. By the way super impressed how skillfully you put the loader back on. It’s easy but for someone that doesnt do it a lot you have skill.
Cool -- that BX came from around my neck of the woods. :)
Another great video Tim.
Could a guy modify a single point connector to fit on a 1025r
Yes. It has been done.
Mounted a FASTER single point connector on my 1025r. Works great! Expensive even with me doing all the work.
High Tim, your videos have been very helpful to me. I currently have a Kubota bx 2380 on order along with loader and landpride reverse tine tiller . Price is $15500. Recently I came across a 2018 Deere 1025R with quick hitch and loader with on 30 hours on machine and shipping plastic still on the seat. I can buy this for $14250, then I need to buy a tiller. There is some power train warranty left on the deere, but no bumper to bumper. Which do you recoment I buy ? Your opinion really means a lot to me, Thanks
Rick Myers
The Deere! Easy!
Nice review. Does the deere have the bobcat style levers to attach and detach the bucket like Kubota does?
Also are those redwing Pecos slip ons you are wearing? I love my redwing pecos.
No, Deere uses JDQA. You can see it up close, and get a good description of why it is used here: tractortimewithtim.com/2019/01/27/skid-steer-quick-attach-vs-jdqa/
No, I wear Ariat boots.
I knew it! Remember when we were at the tractor show a few years ago and we looked at the new 2038R and the Kubota? I could tell then that the orange didn't use as thick of steel as the green, just by the feel. Thank you! I feel better now. LOL!!
That's ABSOLUTELY irrelevant on it's own. Common steel grade in ISO is S235 (with 235 MPa yield strength), loaded agricultural parts are often made of S355 (50% stronger), but grades up to 700 (!) MPaare not exception. Obviously stronger steel costs more, it takes a bit of brain to figure out best options. The 2nd point to look would be the design - Kubota is using more elaborate design with a variable section, which basically follows momentum load along the section. It's stronger where it needs and weaker where extra steel would be just a dead weight. There are more details such as the type of section and type of it's production process (rolling, welding,...). So measuring doesn't really says anything. To exagerrate it, 1mm steel is gonna be way more stronger than 10mm of paper.
Have you had any experience with the yanmar sa ?
Tim, thanks great job!
Great video!
Thanks for another good comparison video. FYI there is a quick connect for the Deere.
No, there is not one available...yet. But soon
Good comparison. I do see one disadvantage of the Deere parking stand that may or may not be an issue for some. That being when the loader is hooked onto the tractor, the parking stand bar would have visual scuff and scratch marks showing quite prominently when looking at the front of the tractor. Nothing a slit piece of rubber hose or box liner spray paint wouldn't remedy however. Keep up the good work Tim!
Before reconnecting the hyd lines, I squirt some starting fluid around to make sure everything is clean. The deere's rubber plugs seem to grow legs at times. Yeppers it's all a manner of choice, I prefer the good ole JD tractors, but will agree the Kubota is a good tractor also. Good vid TTWT...
Thanks
I have recently discovered that gravel roads need to be rolled for maintenance. What size tractor would be needed to maintain a 12-14 foot wide driveway using a scraper designed to roll/mix gravel roads?
Question could be a whole series on its own. Depends on how fast you want to do it, and if you have special needs like a ditch to maintain. I used a heavy duty garden tractor (Case 220) for many years. Took about 3 hours using a box blade to grade about 400 feet of gravel driveway after a winters worth of washout. The Massey Ferguson 1215 I now use will do a better job in about 20 minutes. Its heavier weight allows it to cut deeper each pass. My brother had over 2 miles with ditches and used a road grader (Austin Western 301 super).
@@robb1165 Thanks for those suggestions. I'm wanting to roll/mix it so a box blade would not be adequate unless it can be angled at 30-45 degrees for the necessary rolling/mixing of road materials. I'll also we wanting the gravel driveway to have a 4% slope as is recommended for proper drainage by most States.
Hey Tim. Another great comparison. Is the level indicator on the JD standard? It’s not on the BX, but I got it for $40 added on and it works exactly like the Deere’s. The dealer laughed at the sad attempt at a level indicator sticker and adds on the level rod by default unless a buyer specifically doesn’t want it.
Yes, standard on 1025r. I didn’t realize it was such an inexpensive option on the bx until someone else mentioned in the comments. ...otherwise I would not have made such a big deal of it.
Is the single point hydraulic connector standard or an upgrade on the Kubota? I know that people have converted to them on the 1 series!
there standard
Loved the video.
I’ve enjoyed the comparison between the Deere an kobotta tractors how ever... I have a mahindra for a few good reasons. First of all I do not make a living with my tractor so hooking up buckets ect in a fast manor dose not alpply to be. I like the fact that yes, I have to get off of my tractor, pull pins to drop my loader stand, manually select what adjustment to set my stand and then go back and pull both mast pins then get on the tractor lower the bucket to get the masts out of the holders then discount the hydraulic hoses then do all the above in reverse.
Seems like a lot of steps and I agree that to some folks that would be a problem. But the point here I’m trying to make is I have a problem with a lot of equipment that is (quote in quote) automatic. I just think that some of the
(Automatic) features look great in the beginning but what happens with wear and tear. Some of y’all might think I’m crazy but in my opinion if I have to get off of my tractor to install its equipment then it’s going to force me to inspect my tractor to insure that I’ve installed that equipment properly and safely. The point that I’m trying to make here is we as consumers who buy these tractors should by them to suit their needs and lifestyles. My opinion is you couldn’t give m a John Deere because it’s plastic. Me and plastic don’t get along. You also couldn’t give me a tractor with hydrostatic drive... I don’t like them. Here again different strokes for different folks.. keep up the good work Tim
I agree. I do not mind getting off the tractor. Helps me burn a few extra calories. :))
Ok, I guess I can summarize your comment as follows:
"My tractor is better because the loader is harder to take off. My tractor is better because I have to shift gears each time to change direction (or speed) of travel".
I'll not even try to debate that Robert because it seems absurd to me.
However, I DO very much appreciate you watching, and appreciate your comments!
Tractor Time with Tim , my tractor is better for me... maybe not for you
Thanks Tim for another great Video. I do believe the 1025R has the better of the two park stands. The park stand on the Deere loader supports the boom sections in the air and distributes the weight more evenly. Where the Kubota loader park stands would probably sink into softer soils if removed anywhere other than a paved surface. This due to the amount of weight hanging to the rear of the park stand pushing down on the rear of the stand foot pads. Thanks again. FYI I have found several manufacturers if a multi-port hydraulic connector. Just waiting on their reply’s to my inquiry.
Hang tight on the single point. I believe there will be an answer soon.
You mentioned in a previous video that the bx was leaking hydraulic fluid on the right side by the foot pedals. It is probably coming from the swiftach. I have a bx23s with that has had a warranty replacement of that manifold, so the leak is probably from that. Btw, it still leaks a little bit.
Tim you can get a level indicator for the kubota I have one on my BX23s
Also I think this is a good series so far not the bias of the dealers
Didn’t know it was as an option. How much extra $$?
Tractor Time with Tim I forget but maybe 80-100 I could check
Another good comparison. All tractors have their good and bad points. Just a matter of whom the dealer is and how they take care of you. Oh, of course the price has a large part to play also.
Tim (and all tractor lovers). I went to test drive a 2025R a couple weeks ago. I was told that the sales manager had just been to a John Deere "meeting" and that the same "single point" hydraulic connection that is currently offered on the larger 2R series is going to be available in ALL "R" series tractors very soon (including the 1025R and 2025R).
Might be good for me that I'm waiting until spring to buy a tractor!
Another Great video! Thank you!
Thanks Tim fore doing that
Just loving this series... you are doing a great job on the series, keep the great work 👍 Looks like Green is a little better again🤔
Reverse flow cooling, a steel one-piece hood and a better mowing deck sold me on orange. The ROPS, over abundance of safety switches and plastic hood on the green pushed me towards orange. The green IS a better tractor but the orange is a better mower. I cheated and bumped the hydro pressure on my BX so it has 200# more lift.
Can you mow in reverse on the BX? You can on the JD, but you have to lift the PTO engagement knob. With the shorter turning radius of the JD I'd argue that it's a better mower.
Mike M Yep, mow in reverse by just, well, going in reverse. Haha. No knobs or anything. Just don’t run over the pets!
You can have the safety switches bypassed before the delivery truck is back to the hard road. The ability to bump my hydro forward or back with my hand while standing next to the tractor is very convenient when pulling shrubs, repositioning the backhoe, etc.
That bucket level indicator on the JD is an absolute deal maker for me. My primary use of my 1023E is snowplowing condo complexes with the loader and I cant even imagine not knowing the position of the bucket. While most of the driveways are plowed with a level bucket using the float position on the hills I use the bucket angled down slightly to get the best scraping ability I can. Works great on the ice and most times even negates the need for sanding. Getting up close to the buildings/garages etc the bucket is then angled down more to allow for back dragging like a snow blade...which again is all determined by the bucket indicator for me. The JD indicator also works perfect in order to see it from the Original cab co. cab I put on it. In fairness to the BX however..someone down below did mention there is an add on kit for that. If you get a chance it would be interesting to hear more about that as this could be a very big deal for a BX buyer IMO. Overall I think your series on this issue has been outstanding. I have to give the win to JD for 3 things mainly.... the foot pedals for fwd/reverse on the JD vs. the rocker. The bucket indicator which is a must have....and...I think the extra width of the JD is very important for safety. For me also the length issue is a big deal as I cant even put on a ballast box due to limited storage room in my garage. The WIN= JD (although I have to then give it to the 1023E vs the 1025R for the cost savings). :)
Actually, the bucket level indicator is available for the BX. It is a fairly inexpensive option/add-on at $65.
Johnny”s got my vote👍🏻
Another great video! I do have concerns with the results you're getting out of this BX. It doesn't seem like it was treated very well at all by it's previous owner. I also have a BX2680, I've never taken the time to check pressure or check what it can absolutely lift. However we use it on a small horse farm and move 4x4 round bails, can easily stack 20-30 at a time to full height. Lift a 55gal drum of diesel in and out of a 1ton truck. Just not sure we are seeing typical results here with the loader specifically. At any rate it's still great to see the differences these two particular machines have.
This machine is over spec...and exceeds the specs listed by the manufacturer for lift capabilities.
For sure, I'm not doubting your work! Just really surprised to see the low results on the loader, just hasn't been our experience. Thanks for the video! We are in the market for another tractor, been eyeing the green line too.... Who knows!
Good video.
As much as I like that single point connection on the BX, there are far to many advantages to the Deere. I’ve got over 300 hours on my 2013 1025R and I would only trade it for a bigger machine, but for its size it hard to beat in its abilities. Thanks for the great video series Tim!
Maybe mother Deere will take care of us on the Single Point? We can hope!!
That’d be nice, as long as it will retrofit on the older machines. :)
Nice job on the review!! I agree with good works tractors nice hat but I mean the orange one!!
My grill guard is bent also. I had parked the loader on less than level ground and when trying to reattach it I got one side locked in and not the other. While I was trying to get the other side in position to lock in, the arm of the loader pushed over against the grill guard and bent it just enough that the Transformers looking BX grill guard will not fit into the clips on that side. Not a real big deal but I hate that grill guard. The guards on the 2x70's looked better and seemed to be a bit more heavy duty, so I am unsure why the changed them. I also lost a c-clip on the loader stand and as a temporary fix used a piece of copper wire twisted tight to keep it in place. A few days later I stopped by the dealer and they gave me a new clip but my wire is still holding tight so I haven't taken the time to change it out.
I love the quick attach loader valve. I never release the pressure and, though it would be a little easier to hook it back up with the pressure gone, never have an issue releasing or reattaching it.
I started to show a comparison of connecting the loader when slightly unlevel. The Deere works much better in that scenario, but I could not find a way to show it 100%, so I abandoned the plan. I have had significant difficulty attaching the bx bucket because I didn’t pay much attention to the levelness of the surface....never needed to with the 1025r.
I just didn’t want to mention it in fear of being ‘unfair’ when I couldn’t reliably show the difference.
@@TractorTimewithTim, I have never used the Deere system but as a BX owner it is 100% fair to say that the BX system favors level ground. You really do have to pay attention when you sit it down.
Mounted a FASTER four port unit like Tim’s families combine header disconnect on my 1025r. It takes +- 12 seconds to remove the loader and never leaving the seat while doing so.
Yep! Have one on my 2038r. Didn’t want to confuse this comparison with that line of discussion.
@@TractorTimewithTim Love the videos that you and the family put together!
You should do a comparison between the b50 series and the larger 2R series.
Hey Tim, have you considered retrofitting a single point connector onto Johnny? Some guys on the Green forums have done it, but the parts are on the pricy side.
Yes, much thought on this. Be patient, this will be solved at some point.
Tim I'm going to by a 40 hp bobcat utility tractor. You need to go look at these new tractors bobcat is now making. And show us the features. Thanks TIM
Identical to Kioti.
@@TractorTimewithTim THANK you. TIM.. THATS INTERESTING-!!!
Kubota B-series would actually be a better comparison to the 1025 but it's also a slightly bigger michine. Not by much, but still a little bigger. The B also allows a guy to do more "tractor things" than the BX. But, what are the BX's made for? Mostly suburban homeowners with large yards and long driveways to plow in winter...guys that use it primarily for mowing and want more capability than the large belt-driven garden tractors. If you own 3-5 acres and need to use the loader often, need a backhoe, rear PTO implements, etc. that's when the 1025 and B-series really shine. But you guys really did a great job on these reviews. I'm a Kubota owner because it fits my needs better and it was considerably cheaper than the Deere. And boy, it really does the job. I've got an 1870 and even with a tiny tractor like that I never run out of power. I lose traction before I run out of power. But like you say, you really can't go wrong with either one.