Update On "Sovereign Citizen Demands $500 To Exit Car"
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Problem is that calling them incompetent releases them from responsiblity. They would get away with that which they want to get away with unless you can further restrict them. Certainly if incompetent they should not be allowed to drive, but if free to wander the streets they will drive anyway but are deemed too incompetent to symtand trial. We need more mental institutions.
He's not let go if he's guilty. He'll get psychiatric help and probably meds. He'll get evaluated in jail.
👍 more institutions like we USED TO HAVE!
I do think we need to bring more institutions back! We should have never gotten rid of them. @@JefferyIsbell
Absolutely not. Those individuals end up in state run psych hospitals but the charges don't just disappear.
Either way, it sounds like this guy is caught in the nexus of his sovereign citizen ideas and his psychopathology. I may have missed the Dr saying it but to me it sounds like the man has TBI or traumatic brain injury. I would want an MRI done and or find out if he has had any accidents where he hit his head.
The judge should have told him he'll answer the flag question for $500
Can't do that or it would give the air of legitimacy to his asking that cop for $500. This is why common law can not be the law of the land alone. Any judge could slip up and accidentally set precedence that some yokel will misinterpret. If the judge asked for $500 he would then be sited by every sovereign citizen until it gets straightened out by the Appellate court. Then you know some fool like Balen (I think that was his name) will take it all the way to the Supreme Court. Which would take years. This is why written law overrides common law every time.
Lol
Bahahahahaha
Mike and all you people who laugh at sovereign citizens, I get it their easy targets, I’m not defending the individual people trying to go against the grain , it’s sad but if you know history our founding fathers were sovereign people, they believed in common law and Gods law , as well as English law and jurisprudence, they didn’t go to court and screaming about a right to travel , however the years since have seen our personal liberties and freedom being eroded, so a lot of so called sovereigns , don’t know the law but they feel they are loosing their freedoms too , and their getting more and more radical like the black panther in the 1960 s keep nit listening to the people and the mobsters will take it over .
@ I don’t think they think that deeply about it. They don’t even know how to get a driver’s license.
Two things are infinite: the universe
and the stupidity of people.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
Albert Einstein
@@dongavenda5794 , instead of pointing fingers and laughing at these people,which is the easy
I love these "I'm not driving, I'm traveling" clowns. I'm waiting for the "You can't charge me with j-walking. I'm not walking, I'm pedestrianing" 🤣🤣🤣
There IS a distinction between "driving", "traveling" , etc. and "operating" in some ICC regulations and possibly IRS rules. But they would not apply in this instance. Laws often define words in the context of a particular case. So a burglary statute might define the act burglary as including the attempt to escape or conceal the act, whereas a self-defense statute might include burglary among the enumerated felonies that would justify using deadly force, it would not authorize use of such force to prevent the escape of the suspect, absent a continuing threat of death or serious injury
I'm not walking, I'm ambulating
@@josephdemartino6053 Right. So the fing car is controlling itself.
Never heard a judge say “ hush now”. Hilarious and appropriate
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The judge is trying to do work that’s going to help its colleagues nationwide because this isn’t just a nuisance and novelty anymore. These people are really starting to clog up the court system and become a serious liability.
Yes you’re exactly right - it’s slow moving but the courts are working on seriously disrupting the legal processes in order to stop this this type of behaviour in its tracks. They’ve been classified as a terrorist movement by the FBI because their beliefs are suggestive of anarchism.
"Clog up the court system" - really? I can't imagine people like this come through very often. Do you have evidence that suggests this is a big issue?
@@iamamish I forget the title, it’s an egghead PDF with no pictures it’s called sovereign citizens: a growing concern, something like that. It was pulled out by one of the organizations representing the legal profession. They absolutely go all the way to court all the time. People run entire UA-cam channels filling their days with nothing but people doing this, and imagine only a fraction of courts have their video feeds available.
@@iamamish but no, to your more subtle point, I am not just making this up.
@@theonlyalexoliveira I'm not really accusing you of making up the problem, just exaggerating it - in other words, I'm not accusing you of lying.
I know the SC types show up in court and everyone makes videos about it, but that doesn't really tell us how common it is.
For example, what percentage of court cases (could be divorce, civil cases in general, criminal, etc.) involve an SC? I'd be shocked if it is more than a fraction of a percent, but maybe I'm wrong.
They should put up a sign on entering the courtroom, that says: If you are a Sovereign Citizen and you don't Identify yourself with a clear and valid identification, to the court, you will be found in contempt and you will be going to jail. Quit wasting the courts time.
Will not help. Have you noticed how few of these “constitutional fools” (my me term.) will use the term “Sovereign Citizen” anymore.
Brilliant, and add in the jurisdiction garbage.
😂 😂
It's long past time for law enforcement across the country to develop a strong, uniform, and cohesive response to SovCit nuttiness. The first principle should be "we will not debate or argue with you. Period."
The best sovcit comeback by a judge was when the defendant refused to give a name, while claiming to represent the defendants trust. Judge threatened to cite suspect for failure to appear. Brilliant 😂
I love this Judge, he questions whether or not sovereign citizens are actually just attention seeking anarchists or simply delusional. It's nice to see this conversation taking place and I'm even happier that it's taking place in a court of law.
That is not a court of law. lol It's an administrative agency.
@@smartloctv There was no need to criticise this unless your an ashat... you are aren't you? Any moron could have picked up what I was putting down here, except you 🤣 bet your a bag of fun at parties.... groan
I would say, and am confident that this doctor would agree, that this man is unusual and not like most people who make the same claims.
The PSYCHO LOGIST was paid to evaluate this defendant's mental status and is not an expert witness who has studied the SovCit moveMENt so why this Judge is asking that question in open court is inappropriate in this case.
@@JaneDoe-tr5xy No your wrong, very wrong. In fact you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. 🤣
Judge: Doctor, can you give us your impression of the defendant?
Doc: I'm sorry, judge. I don't do impressions.
😂😂😂😂😂
There's a huge dunning-kruger component to this entire Sovereign citizens movement
I love the 'hush now', like a parent chiding a toddler. I also love how sovereign citizens have two judges from different parts of the country quoting Lewis Carroll.
I remember judge Middleton quoting the snippet about the jabberwocky. It really goes to show how delusional these ideals are for people that have to deal with sovcits.
All of this time and money wasted on a few traffic tickets?! He should be charged 500 every 30 mins in the courtroom.
Except for Darrell Brooks, it's ALWAYS about dinky little traffic tickets.
Brooks should have said he "travelled" they the parade, it might have worked.
Brooks shoulda gotten a death penalty especially for his defense.@@TheWatcherxx99
Well, if arrested for fail to ID and resisting its gone beyond a simple traffic ticket
He can't pay, so they'll wind up spending more money prosecuting that issue.
Interesting how the Sov Cits pickup the court phrases such as "on the record", "objection", "jurisdiction", etc. Then seem to believe that those words/phrases have special powers if sprinkled around in conversation.
Hush now...priceless! Not just because at some time in our life it's a phrase we've heard, but because... it resonated in the dudes brain. He did hush in the moment.
The doctor doesn't think SovCitz pull this crap on Misdemeanor cases? He doesn't really know anything about SovCitz 🤣
There are PhD programs in psychology. The University of Arkansas has one (as I'm sure every large school does). The doctor has such a degree. His website says such.
He’s made the false assumption that there’s logic motivating these people. I just saw a video earlier today that was about an interesting paper that was written about stupid people and he had 5 laws of stupidity that he outlined. One of those laws decoupled the person’s stupidity from any other classification or education, because there are stupid people of all varieties. His definition of stupidity was based on how the behaviors of a person benefitted themselves or others. This guy falls right into the definition of a stupid person, which is someone whose behavior does not benefit and actually harms others and himself. If their behavior does not benefit/harms themselves, but it helps or benefits others, then those people are hapless/helpless. If their behavior benefits themselves, but harms others, those people are referred to as bandits. The people deemed intelligent are the ones who benefit society and themselves.
It was a pretty interesting point he was making because he argued that stupid people are far more dangerous than anyone assumes, because they are not predictable like a typical bandit who will act rationally.
In this case this guy is not behaving or following any rational thought, and he’s clearly only hurting himself more as he inflicts annoyance and frustration on the court and everyone in his life.
I would say he’s stupid by any definition, but I think that if we stop prosecuting people for their stupidity, then we’re going to have some serious problems with the justice system.
You can watch these interactions with this sovereign cit nuts all day long and they stem from traffic stops and fake plates, etc. The lack of knowledge on the part of the Doc is incredible
He was asked to assess not assume and he did just that for this defendant.
Why isn’t the girlfriend running as fast as she can away from the defendant? HE’S HAVING A COMPETENCY HEARING! Yikes!
Maybe she thinks she can change him? 😉
My thought exactly. Run girl.😂
Because then she would be in dishonor. LOLOLOL
.... Melania?
Desperate.
If someone is not willing to follow the rules that American Citizens follow than the only question the Judge needs to ask is Which country would you like to be deported to?
You've got about a quarter of a million of these. What country do you think should import your problem? Don't you have an island somewhere you can put them all and let them get on with it.....go back in a few years and see how they all got on
@@maryholden3136Prison would be a good start.
@@lovemypuppy2811 yes but your money would be used to pay for that...... If they are all sovereign and independent...... Let them be....... somewhere away from the rest of you 🙂 ....... and it shouldn't cost you a dime
@@maryholden3136 You are not sovereign, is that land your traveling on yours? I am actually sovereign on my federally recognized tribal land that I reside on, even still any road way I drive on I still need registration, insurance and a license. If you own your home, I guess you could transport in your driveway, traveling on the roadways without, you deserve being arrested. Quarter of a million, I guess thats your problem to buy an island to put them all on, in the meantime follow the laws and pay your dues or leave and/or get arrested. My guess is you’ll get the second choice and still get a home in a jail cell.
@@maryholden3136 If you want an island, buy one.
I never understand why these people always end up doing it for free and not collecting on their fee schedules.
That is great
Lots of [real] Judges have had large bogus judgments against them. Judgments issued by self-stayed “sovereign” courts. The real Judges consider the judgment and file accordingly (with great laughter).
I know right? 🤦🏻♀️
Marketing - and they hope they don't get skewered like the guy at the Depp v Heard trial. Also, pro bono is an expectation for civil lawyers. (criminal law has this by having the state pay a chunk of their fees or a public defender.)
It is so they can write off uncollected fees on their taxes. :)
YES! A whole new field of SovCit forensic physology opens up. Society, the courts, and defendents all stand to gain.
Yup ... Job creation grows the economy.
It must be so weird to sit and listen to a psychiatrist define who and what you are, especially when he thinks that you’re a nutcase
And I'd say it would be weird for his wife/girlfriend to hear that too except that she may be as deluded as he is!!
He isn’t a psychiatrist, he is a psychologist. A psychiatrist is also a medical doctor.
I'm so crazy I'm on disability. They're never offensive about it. It helps get proper medication treatment to keep you off the ledge, away from addiction or in his case out of the vicioius loop of the justice system
@@tkenglander6226I saw the original arrest video and his girlfriend was mortified by his behavior. She sat in the passenger seat with her hands cradling her face. She cooperated with the police and...it appeared to me... was reassessing her desire to be a part of this relationship. Hmmm...stand by your man or cut your losses? I thought she was leaning toward the latter.
@@robertnagel337the only real difference is is that a psychiatrist can prescribe medications
“Hush Now” for the win!
I love it!!
Wow, I love this. Finally a judge asking for competency of a Sovereign citizen. This will go down in history. Mike can they use this testimony in this court hearing in the future for other sovereign citizens? Also, will this lead to further competency hearings in the future. I think the courts are getting tired of having to deal with sovereign citizens.
That doctor and judge are FANTASTIC.
"Flurry" of documents. I imagine a tall stack of loose papers thrown at someone.
I cant stand these people that think they are above all of us and the law
This video should be mandatory viewing for all judges across the entire country !!! ❤
I've been studying the Q Anon movement for several years and just started looking into this sovereign citizen issue. It's amazing how the Q Anon individuals have integrated some sovereign citizen ideology. I wasn't aware the revaluation and birth certificate issues came from the sovereign citizen movement.
Not to mention MAGA idiots and flat earthers, etc.
SovCit is a fancy term for Anarchist.
@@jeannepriest8181absolutely not. Anarchism is a family of highly developed political and philosophical movements that focus on co-operative organisation. In some cases these have been adopted by broader society for periods of time before being crushed by external military force, most famously when the Popular Front won the 1936 elections in Spain, which was crushed by the Fascist-led reactionaries that put dictator Francisco Franco in power. Other examples include the Hungarian Revolution in 1956 (crushed by the Soviet Union under de facto dictator Nikita Khrushchev) and the Gwanju Uprising in 1980 (crushed by the South Korean Army under dictator Park Chung Hee).
SovCits abhor cooperation, they lack any coherent philosophy and seek only their own selfish ends, thinking nothing of attempting to use law enforcement and courts in perverse manners to obtain even their most ridiculous whims why simultaneously grasping at every straw to avoid the slightest consequences to their own actions. I recommend looking into the case of Naomi Arbabi for an example of this behaviour
Q Anon, SovCit, Libertarian, Anarchist, etc. Theyre all a result of the same brain disease that prioritizes unquestionable individual freedom over the safety and needs of the community.
Its no wonder why all of these groups are so antagonistic toward government and law.
And as of January, these same freaks will be running the country. This kind of content might be a lot less funny soon.
Jeopardy! "I'll take Stepping Out of Vehicle for 500, Alex."
@@ProSeElBey "What is Pennsylvania v. Mimms"
Thanks for doing this Mike. I watched yesterday and wrote you immediately. The back and forth between the judge and the doctor was fascinating. When you have Judge Middleton at the North and this Judge in the way south both using "Through the Looking Glass" is not a coincidence.
after watching so many of these videos, I'm so impressed with the judges who are handling these cases. They are so concerned about protecting the rights of the people in their courts. It really makes me feel so positive about how much these judges care about the people in front of them. I really want a team Judge Simpson t-shirt. He's my hero when it comes to compassion and yet maintaining the ethics and historical value of the judiciary.
*ABOUT TIME!* The way they are talking so seriously about this like they're dealing with a lunatic 5 year old and as if he is not in the room objecting ? *PURE* gold absolutely *HILARIOUS*☠😂☠😂💙
I got pulled over a couple of weeks ago and for a split second thought about telling the police officer that I wasn’t driving, I was traveling. I’m not driving a commercial vehicle for hire. But I just apologized to the officer and handed over my license, registration and proof of insurance. The whole encounter had me on my way in less than 5 minutes.
How DARE you rob the UA-cam court-watching audience of the potentially problematic video we could have had on you!! ;-)
😂😂😅@@tkenglander6226
The Lewis Carroll quote definitely struck a nerve with the defendant.
I object your honor, I refuse to read the classics, so I don't understand that reference..lol
Carrol was high when he wroye Alice in Wonderland
@@richardmendoza8453 Is this known or presumed about Carroll? I studied “Through The Looking Glass” at University and was blown away! Have you ever read the Norton? The annotations are highly entertaining. Carroll was brilliant in several areas of scholarship & current events, as evident from his “Alice” stories. I love timeless stories that can be appreciated at various ages and stages of educational development.
How strange it would be to be sitting there listening to a Judge and Doctor discussing my mental problems. 😳
The Judge is great tho! I love the questions he is asking. This is very educational.
Thanks Mike, it’s always great to have follow ups but especially on the “I’ll spread my legs for a $100.00” guy. 😂
Sounds a little like solicitation of prostitution? 🤷🏻♂️
If there was ever a LTWM quote that needed to be on a t-shirt, it would be that one 🤣
@@williamdegnan4718 PSYCHOLOGY
@@jellysofa for most prosTITuteS$ you would need to add ZEROS$ as EVEryone has a PRICE to bend over🤑
I guess he's going to have to use Maritime court to sue for his fee schedules!
I doubt the judge will give him any doubloons for his case.
Love it! 😂👍✨
OMG. 🤣🤣 When Mike said that about the judge reading the article with big words I about spit out my coffee 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious
I believe that's his mom with them. It was her car correct? And she is 85 and was probably sleeping? Lol.
Just past the exchange between judge and psychiatrist and it was a delight to hear them explore the issue with facts and rational thought.
It was a very good conversation of a very difficult problem.
you failed to SEE the GAME the JuDas$ JuDge and HIS disciple who is a psychologist and not a psychiatrist who is what WE victims of divorce/custody cases$. ~ cha ching call CoUrT whores$ who$ only clientele are FED by these stupid and evil JuDas$ JuDges$ who do not prescribe to SOLOmon's Rule of 50-50 ~ win-win for both sides in civil cases that these evil and stupid JuDges$ turn into criminal cases adjudicated in civil courts v criminal courts ... which is not the case for Mr Give me $500 to get out his vehicle as ordered by a traffic cop... but HIPPA allows for the patient to choose their own DR and Mr give me $500 for my name is too stupid to know ... there is no need for a mental health eval in a traffic court case ... the Judge can order him to provide the evaluation but not choose the DR for him ... understand? in SERIOUS criminal cases such as murder ... a Judge needs to know if the accused is mentally competent to stand trial ... and may not abUSE the eval to demean nor punish the accused ... and in criminal cases the accused can have their own chosen DR where the accused TRUSTs that the DR is working in their best interests... This JuDge violates HIPPA laws to the 9s in this simple case of traffic violations .... ... yes we as a society need to shame these soveREIGN SHITizens to stop abUSING our government employees who are low hanging fruit ... they should be contacting their ELECTED officials and take up their grievances with them!! who make laws$ for US to obey and pay v them and Judges who abuse their AUTHORity as in this simple traffic case ....
This was fascinating. As an educator I think there needs to be an official legal term for terminally dim-witted.
He is so crazy that even a psychiatrist can't find a diagnosis.
The expert was a psychologist.
I am sorry I misspoke that he was a psychiatrist but I don't think it matters that much. This defendant is not crazy. He is dillusional in his beliefs. I am done with this conversation.
@@ProSeElBeyWhy is a psychiatrist superior to a psychologist in this circumstance? The psychologist has a PhD and is arguably more qualified in this instance.
@@ProSeElBey good point also there are HIPPA rights to protect the patient from abUSE in civil cases such as divorce/custody cases where JuDas$ JuDges$ are paid by kickbacks from lawyers$ called GUARDIAN at LITEms$ ~ atm machines$ for the JuDges$ and GAL$ where these bad JuDges$ force 1 parent and the children to undergo court ordered evaluations$ by the JuDges$ list of psychologists$ who$ main source of income is from the CoUrts$ ... the JUDGE forced the parent to pay and denies the parent their right to choose their own DR which is a HIPPA violation that parents need to be aware of so they are not victims of these so called DR$ aka psychologist$ CoUrT whores$ ... I know as my son and I were victims but fortunately and unknown to Judge Jorge Solomon and his Sister Elizabeth Epstein who refused to allow US to present evidence from our own Family DR's and ordered ME to pay their chosen court whore psychologist. DR GREEN but fortunately for ME and my son, I AM educated and practiced in psychiatry as an RN ... I contact DR GREEN by phone advising him of the HIPPA laws so he notified Judge Solomon who had no choice but to ditch his plan to screw me over as I AM a gOVERnMEnt wHIStle blower MENtored by the best in LAW, poliTICS$ , reLIGion$, FINances$ and huMAN behaviors$ and so I WON custody but it did cost me my wealth and health so now I teach others similarly situated in civil matters$ that turn into criminal matters through no fault of their own
@@shebaspurling605 by his behavior he appears to be a person who feels so unimportant that he glommed onto this sov-cit behavior so he will have attention by others. Sad and very annoying.
Well when they say over and over that they don't understand the charges against them their competency has to be questioned. If they don't participate in determining their competency they are going to find themselves in a rubber room real quick.
So, the Sov Cit hat should be the Mad Hatter’s hat? 🎩 😂😂😂
6:01 that "hush now" has me dying 😂😂😂
Defendant is in denial. Refuses to believe he got ripped off for $$$$ for SovCit seminars, documents, etc.
No that one sounds like Christianity
Desperate people do desperate things ... from my experience, most SovCits are not violent and not like FATHER and SON ~
Police killed two suspects, 45-year-old Jerry R. Kane Jr. (b. 1964), and his 16-year-old son Joseph T. Kane (b. 1993). The two were later identified as members of the sovereign citizen movement ... KANE is CAIN as both are 1st born Sons who become FATHER's but JOSEPH KANE didn't have the chance to become a FATHER et al. thanks to his FATHER who was a CON ARTIST$ SovCit guru ~. the SIN$ of the FATHER are pASSed dOWN to the SON as HE comes from the manASSes CLAN is a CLUB of goLIAth LIArs$ for proFITS$ by these proPhET$ sheep follow like MARtha/hat RAM .... rams are male sheep who are Fathers and lambs are their son's ...the father is suppose to protect their children from harm ... SovCits do not and why their children are taKEN from them by the stATE ... unfortunately the state doesn't do it$ JOB to raise these children to be productive members of our society ... they are trafficked into drugs, sex and other crimes for their HANDLERS$. humans do not do well in state run facilities as privately owned facilities v CORPorations$ in partnerSHIP w/GovernMENts$ is an alliance that is NO GOoD for our society at large ... GENERALly speaKING as the AG = SilveR is a lawYER poliTICian behind the CoUrTain$ of OZ/Zoo ~ KANGA ROO. CoUrT$ run by JuDas$ JuDges$ who violate the defendant's HIPPA rights to the 9s ... EDuCATion is the only way to REhabilitate SovCits back to becoming productive citizens in our society ...
@@Eric-oi5yj In some forms, every concept can be stisted with half truths to serve a purpose or a person. Christianity itself, not the different churches, but the raw concepts from it are helpful to many people. Such as caring about others, and forgiveness. I am an agnostic, a hairs width from atheism. But, I respect other people that have religion in their lives. Just because some people in the dark ages and medieval times used it to selfishly control people doesn't make it a bad thing.
@jdranetz I am an atheist and laws and society can get you there without any religious interference. Religion has caused more blood shed and strife than any other organization in history... just saying.
Medieval times? Salem and burning women weren't during medieval times.
The "church and religions" are today, the 21st century, persecuting gay people. Today is not "medieval times".
Religion will always be a tool to control people, and today it's controls the gop party and white christians nationals...and that's not a good thing, especially when it's picking and choosing "parts they like" and ignoring parts they don't like in *their* bible. That's not helpful at all... in TODAYS world.
@@Eric-oi5yjwe're talking about law here...
Hopefully the girlfriend is re-evaluating her current involvement with this guy after hearing all this! How many more red flags would you need?
Is it a Maritime flag?
If she missed all the other red flags she not gonna see this one either... gotta catch em all.lolol
I reject the Doctor's main premises that this defendant making a simple misdemeanor into a much harsher charge being the reason he determined incompetency. He actually said that isn't the case in other "sovcit" cases. At least on UA-cam, more than 50% of the cases are exactly that -- usually driving without a license being escalated to this nonsense.
Shows the craziness of psychiatrists
His attorney should turn to him and say, "I'll ask questions of the doctor for $500 cash".
“Substantially more illogical than the typical individual”
Thanks for giving sov cits an appropriate clinical diagnosis on the record 😅
in violation of the accused's HIPPA rights for a simple traffic violation is ABUSE of the mental health system where the patient has the right to choose their own DR's as there is a professional relationship of TRUST between the DR and patient that the DR is working in the best interest of their patients which is not the case in court ordered mental health evals by law is to ONLY determine if the accused is mentally competent to stand trial which means in practice that the accused knows or does not know the difference between right and wrong and that's IT ... that was not the INTENT of the court order by this JuDas$ JuDges who abUSED his AUTHORity to steal the rights of Mr give me $500 to get out of my vehicle or the cops will pull him out .... did not need a court ordered mental health eval for traffic court ... the Judge doesn't know how to deal with these SovCits like GOoD Judges like Judge Middleton and Simpson ....
@@DearMe247The term is “HIPAA”, not “HIPPA”. That you do not know the proper term renders the rest of your word salad moot.
@DearMe247 A simple traffic stop that the defendant turned into so much more by being a nut job.
Rational *sane* people don't do this.
The court has jurisdiction over ALL in his court. If you don't like it... don't get arrested in this area, maybe write a letter to this judge, let him know how you feel.
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💯 agree w/ the commenter below regarding your word salad! In the future, consider using PROPER PUNCTUATION! You know, periods, commas, exclamation points, question marks, apostrophes etc... Your RUN ON SENTENCE isn't readable!
The distinction between SC claims and competency is EXTREMELY important…to conflate the two is a slippery slope that may end up at your front door when you hold an opinion at odds with the ‘official story’ or ‘paradigm’.
Apparently Mike needs a foldable travel fez.
And a matching *driving* fez for when he's operating in commerce!
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Use the bucket from Kentucky Fried Chicken
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The term "Word Salad" on the record, from a Physchologist, in court. 😂
Mr. Farnham just wants to paper the courts to death to try and make his case go away. Although, he is definitely squirrely as well.
It's an actual psychological term though, at least it was when I took some undergrad psych classes in college. It's used to describe the stream of language from people with conditions like schizophrenia where the language is a shuffled combination of words and ideas that don't lead to a logical narrative or comprehensible point, and is not an appropriate response to what preceded.
There's a few different verbal behaviors like this that can aid in diagnosis of mental or neurological disorders. Psychologists distinguish how the language is being distorted, and word salad describes a distinct kind of distortion.
Did his girlfriend leave him, yet. She was face palming from embarrassment during the stop?
The magic 8ball, says try again.
This whole thing is such a circus 🎪
It appears we have a movement of sociopathic behavior gaining in popularity! There needs to be law which creates a negative impact on those committing this anti-social behavior. Their actions potentially violate the rights of law abiding citizens due to their actions especially while driving.
Some local bodies have put in nuisance laws .
100% agree!!!
@@BigBootyStarFishu>>u
Can’t “like” that enough! We’ve let this bud grow a little too long, already.
It's a trend. Transsexuals got away with it..
Just imagine that ' someone ' thought they should have a competancy hearing over some traffic violations. I doubt the arresting Officer called for the hearing. Someone further up the chain of command was alerted and became aware of it... and felt this was the road to take.
*AND, how many time must Girlfriend hear the word " delusional " before she runs for the hills... FAST!!!
It wasn't over "some" traffic violations. It's what came AFTER the traffic stop and THOSE charges.
Wow a psychiatrist just called him super stupid hahahaha!!
I once heard someone say, “some people have a penchant for throwing extra cuckoo coal on the dumb-dumb fire” about pro se SovCits once.
I think that’s a decent paraphrase of the Doc’s response to the SovCit question from the judge at ~13:30 minutes in. lol
In other words...Judge- Can we lead this particular horse to water? Drs response- Well yeah, but ya can't make him drink. Whether it be sheer stubborn defiance or a pathological inhibition cannot be assessed in a single chin jaw, your honor, but, at this point of an opinion he's exhibiting some of both.
First, he's not an attorney and has representation so he can't object. Second, if he doesn't step into the gallery to speak he will not be heard (I’m kind of angry that the judge is letting him do that.) Third, as we saw in the Mohammed Ibris case, if you don't acknowledge that you are the person in question and show up, then a bench warrant should be issued for failure to appear.
Can't believe you left us hanging 😅
Well, apparently, seeing him arrested and his bizarre behavior was not enough to convince girlfriend to run far far away. I cannot believe she is in the court room with his mother. Somebody needs to check her for delusions as well if she thinks this is ever going to work out for her.
None of those guys arrested here in MI used that defense for their trials. They tried to kidnap the Governor.
I was making the same argument on VanBallian’s video. It would be easy to claim incompetence thus avoid jail time/fines However being involuntarily committed isn’t a rosie thought. I think there are some that are susceptible to the scam who are not playing with a full deck but there are too many who like the chaos they create with this belief system. Slippery slope indeed.
Being declared incompetent doesn't get u out of fines or jail time, it just delays your consequences further down the road to a facility till competence is restored. Then he faces his original case.
This psychiatrist must only be vaguely aware of sovcit behavior.
He falls out of the vehicle, that’s 750 dollars
Mike, I want to thank you for your analysis, I believe you were spot on. The judge does not want to set a precedence that we begin to say, Sovereign citizens must be crazy so we should lock them up. It is like Plessy vs Ferguson in 1896, the Supreme Court basically said it is ok to segregate people as long as you don’t hurt them. We saw what happend with that ruling over the next 70 years! This was a very good hearing with much wisdom. Thank you again.
Some of the most educated people in this World could be called CRAZY.!!!!
I don’t see that ignorance, arrogance, and a desire to get out of your responsibilities is a sign of mental illness.
This is true. Perhaps the judge is making things more complicated than necessary.
Well maybeWell, maybe it will stop these idiots from doing this.
@@Christine__DAgree wit you. It’s a traffic case. He pays the fine or send him to jail. A year later he might be “sane”.
I remember seeing this guy, that's his mom's car 😂
This is one of the most beautiful, savage takedowns I've ever seen on this channel
THIS is fascinating. So glad you showed it. It’s really helpful to have a clue as to what in the heck is going on inside the heads of these people.
There would be no way Id give him the time. Let his lawyers speak for him. Quit letting these people any time, ignore them
How can a sovcit claim that our constitution and laws don’t apply to them and then claim their rights are violated.., what rights?
When you want to limit a fellow citizens' right to speak you also run the risk that your own right to speak is denied for whatever reasons the state decides .... the 1st AMENdment is vital for our Liberty from an over reaching GUBBERment/gOVERnMEnt so i have to disagree with your opinion
@JaneDoe-tr5xy You can't have it both ways dear ... bless your heart.
I watched an interesting lecture yesterday by a psychiatrist about sovereign citizens. He basically stated the same thing as this psychologist. In general they are legally competent and legally sane. And for the most part they don’t qualify for a specific DSM diagnosis but they demonstrate traits of various psychotic, delusional and thought disorders. He further suggested that there might need to be a new type of diagnosis created for these people. But there’s a difficulty in discerning if they actually believe the things that they say. It’s definitely a complicated issue and I’m glad this judge is taking it seriously. We need cooperation between law enforcement and the mental health field to come up with a strategy for the evaluation and holding accountable of these individuals
"Hush now." 😅😅😅
I’d love a link to that lecture if it’s online anywhere!
I wonder how much of an overlap there is between sov cits and MAGA idiots? And sov cits and flat earthers? What kind of pie charts would we have, I wonder??!!
Thanks Mike, always fun!
I bought his book for $5.99, kindle edition! It's AMAZING. He explains in excruciating detail exactly which documents you must sign in blue-ink, which you need to register with a county recorder in Maryland, and which you must send registered-mail (NOT CERTIFIED! OMG) to some federal agency in Puerto Rico.... if you follow all his steps you will be free!
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One downside to some people being present in the courtroom is you can’t hit the mute button. I guess if things get too out of hand you can always push the button to call the bailiffs.
Finally!!! We have needed this report from a mental health professional!!! Yes!!!😂
How awesome is it to live in America where we are so well cared for that we have to create our own imaginary victim status. What a hilarious life we live.
Wanna bet he has a job and pays taxes and collects it the end of tthe year. They are all a bunch of
There's a shit ton of that victim crap going on these days 🙄
I feel victimized and oppressed at your hurtful accusation that people in America create imaginary victim statuses. My feelings are deeply bruised and I feel faint. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
It's like Weird Al's song says.
First World Problems (great song btw)
One of my favorite lines in it is
"My house is so big I can't get Wi-Fi in my kitchen!"
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@@thudthud5423 LOL!!! 😏😁
9:52 worked for a child psychologist doing transcription and learned SOOOO much! he is defining the man’s behavior perfectly.. saying he is grandiose (above others, above the law etc) he will likely say the man has a habit of meandering since he already mentioned he goes back into his storytelling many times etc
Of a mind... this court hearing has gone from a question of law, to one of philosophy.
😂😂@“What a mope” Never heard that before. But in all seriousness, I concur with your assessment of the situation. Spot on‼️
I think there should be some type of "team" or something to find the people that are leading these people astray. They actually believe that they are under their constitutional rights. If someone is charging them for this misinformation, they should be held accountable.
This has been fascinating. I want to see the outcome.
He is as competent as ghost chasers, Sasquatch hunters, fluoride conspiracists, and cell-tower deflectors/anti-chemtrail antidote door-to-door salespeople.
There are some crazy documents labeled "correspondence from defendant" in his case information. I love watching these sovcit video's and this one is from my home town so I can see all of the court documents! Thanks Mike!
When I watched this on Van balian's Channel, I commented that I thought it was the same guy because he was the first one I had ever heard mention honor and dishonor during the traffic stop and he mentions dishonor at the end of this video. Also, I commented that I feel like the defense attorney knows that he is definitely competent because she couldn't even finish her last sentence when she was explaining to the judge about his quote incompetency quote.
He was declared incompetent, sent for 'regrooving' (reference to Firesign Theatre) and next appeareance is Aug 15, 2023. So far 431 pages in his court docket for the offences so if the intent is to disrupt, then it is working. All viewable via Brevard Electronic Court Application
His Mom and GF are in court in support of him. Amazing the gf is still with him.
I agree that the judge is really taking this seriously
#1 because its very helpful to dissect the basis for these beliefs and behaviors and #2 the judge knows that other sovereign citizens and other judges/lawyers will be watching this case closely.
Just googled his full name. He is an author with books on Amazon. The books appear to be about the Sov Cit movement. His biography on Amazon clearly is a Sov Cit, but it states he used to work for the DOD and handled top secret documents. He is also an actor and has appeared on America’s Got Talent.
Whaaaaat??!!! Crazy!!!
This was the most interesting and thought provoking videos on one of these SovCits. Thank you for bringing it to us.
How would Kim Blandino fare in a hearing like this?
Hush now!!! And he hushed! LMAO that was way tooooo funny 😹😹😹 like me talking to my grandson 😵💫🫠
Mike, they aren't crazy. They just can't afford or aren't willing to do what's required to get their licenses or IDs so they think this gives them an excuse instead of being financially or legally responsible. That's why they always have warrants or no licenses, or are owing the money alleged. They have nothing to lose so why not go the sov cit route?
That is true for some of them, but there are a TON who truly believe it and persist in upholding the faith while incurring more severe consequences (jail time, additional charges, increasing fines, etc.).
He had a license, he wouldn’t show it to the police.
@@the_whetherman So? They are making an active choice to believe something that says "You're special; you are too smart to be subject to the government." That's not crazy. That's being self-centered.
He should be able to afford all the license fees, and be driving a brand new Mercedes, given his fee schedule. 🤣🤣🤣
I agree with you. They drag everything out. And this works for them. How many times have we seen the judge drops his fines, gets no penalties. Also these people ramble on about all these laws. They know them in and out, and the codes. So that part they are intelligent. The rest of us don't care to even try to understand these citizens.
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Psych doc: "the vast majority (of sovereign citizens) are using this defense because they are facing serious charges... They wouldn't use it for something that could be resolved with just a fine..."
I've been an acute care Rn for 12 years. When i dont know something, i dont speculate. Especially if i was under oath.
The fact that the psych md just said a sov cit *wouldn't take this approach for small misdemeanors* shows a complete misunderstanding of the sov cit movement. It is precisely the low-repercussion crimes that they choose to use it. When the felonies come calling, they lawyer up and stop talking (usually).
How didn't Mike jump all over that?
If the md can be so wrong about this very important quality of sov cits, how is he offering testimony about it? And what else is he offering conjecture about?
With all this said, I love the idea of saying they're all nuts and they don't get to talk in court and if they want to push the issue they can go to a psych facility
The girlfriend is there?!?! She's still with him?!?!? He must be the world's greatest lover for her to stick around.
Ha ha! Well, according to her during the traffic stop, he's a good guy other than when it comes to legal stuff. Still, I'd be outta there super quick!
She might owe him to much money to leave... have you seen his fees?
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@@notme2day😂😂😂😂😂😂
I caught this late but I'm beyond shocked that the guy didn't demand various amounts of cash to answer the shrinks questions!
The BABS Test is a self-reporting scale, therefore, would depend on the client's responses (verbal) to test items. And, exercising his 5A is very sensible, not crazy.
Thank you Mike for your commentary; this was an interesting case. I appreciated the deeper dive into competency evaluation.