Chatsworth Condo Fire Drone Footage July 4 2017 (Full)
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2017
- Full drone footage of large condominium fire on July 4 2017. 22100 block of James Alan Circle in Chatsworth CA.
Had to land drone due to incoming LAFD Helicopter, fire was extinguished after about 80 minutes, three units lost. BBQ Propane tank leak & explosion believed to be the cause. News coverage here:
KTLA - Including my drone video:
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DJI Phantom 4 1060P 30fps
I hope Chatsworth has seen this video and has made some improvements. Specially on getting that 360 done much quicker and not all pumpers on one side of the building while the other side rages.
Chatsworth is in the San Fernando Valley (city of LA) LAFD
Hard to understand why they never got aerials up.
Thanks a million for the drone filmed video, it was very interesting to watch.
excellent drone video LARRY, keep up the great work.
* Simply a fantastic well done capturing of a huge fire - pre-arrival no less. You’ve provided an excellent video for firefighter training. Well done.
OK any FF out there, y did they not make use of the ladder truck and why would they not call in a second ladder for the rear?
Nice coverage of tactics, particularly the trench cuts across the roof. Looks like they stopped the fire at the first trench
The camera is really really good.
One of the best on youtube.
So you can see very clear there is to less water.
I’m no firefighter but I’ve seen a few. Multiverse and deckgun in the rear with a tower in front and if possible in the back. The trench’s helped save the rest of the structure, so good for that.
I have seen so many videos that start with a fire that looks pretty small and yet grow and grow. In this case, was the roof construction what made this hard to confine to the original units? Isn't vertical ventilation for interior operations? Of course, with any video you are only seeing a fraction of what is going on, but the interior operations were minimal at best. Without audio, it is impossible to know when or if members were told to exit the structure.
Larry did you get any footage of the blackout?
Unglaublich, wie stabil die Drone bei diesem starken Wind steht. Und das vor 5 Jahren.👍👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃 Viele Grüße aus Germany
Firstly I am not a fireman but looking at the way this fire was fought it seems that there is a lack of water getting to the fire and more so around the back where the biggest part of the fire was, I seem to find that the USA don't seem to be committed at times when I have watched other fire vids
Yeah I don't get it either. Some of these videos are just like what the fuck?
Hi Larry, one of the best fire fighting obsevations I have seen so far. Most informative the protection strategy applied for the structure facing up-street. In my early years I've seen entire cities burning down and I know what the fire fighting units are going thru physically and mentally in the attempt to hold losses down.....FH
The heavy smoke and visible flames were clearly in the rear of the end building but no water hit the flames until the 9:30 mark. There were fire trucks in the front of the building when the drone reached the scene.
The firefighters in front of the building were extinguishing the units involved with fire on their side. About the 2:33 mark, you begin to see white smoke at that end of the building indicating water was getting on the fire.
Hi! do you mind if I use like 15 second clips of this video for my project?
No problem; please attribute
Yeah...what's with the aerials not being utilised?
Roof division did a great job holding it to the first trench. Well done!
I use to live/rent in 2011-12 on Corner Unit right behind these 3 Units. Crazy, drove by 1 day, cuz grandfather owned 1 in there, and saw them rebuilding them.
Where I work, we would have had 3 water towers (ladder pipes) in operation quickly.
Ummmmmmm no aerials in this fire dept?????
We have one out back. In yard is there any firefighter's here to give us tips. Fires and Burns are terrible. We have a cabin too a nice one clean water hot water with a out door propane tank we are always looking for advice on safety.
Look at the trees blowing in the wind but the drone is rock solid. The technology is awsome.
Fire assignment was a little bit off the mark. As soon as fire is venting in multiple locations on it's own, pull the interior attack and go defensive. The interior attack at around 24:00 was pointless. Ladder should have been in the air well before the fire got to this point. Looks like someone forgot how to read smoke.
BBQ tanks don't just randomly explode - likely there was a gas leak and the gas ignited.
Yes a leak caused the explosion.
Actually they can explode without a leak. It depends on the environment there in or around.
Benjamin Esposti: How much do you understand about BBQ tanks or any pressurized tanks for that matter. FYI all pressurized LPG or LNG tank/bottles are equipped with pressure release valves and repeated venting with direct flame impingement is what results in a BLEVE this is a boiling liquid expanding vapour explosion. ua-cam.com/video/vejCkfaWA8g/v-deo.html
I know you might think Europe fight them differently, but the problem isn't just this simple. We also have different construction code, which means the structure will be different from the European building. That contributes to how the fire will spread once it is burnt.
Why was that big ladder not utilized with a major fire to put water on that fire is beyond me? Guys on the roof did an excellent job but if possible more lines should have been stretched onto the roof. Seems to have been a lack of water to fight this one.
And the ladder truck just sits there and does nothing? LAFD not really doing very well at this one.
in america there seems to be a fundamental problem with turntable ladders.
Either they don't have a water connection or nobody serves them and they just stand around...
What a shame about the beautiful building!
Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life
The men on the roof did an excellent job with those cuts👍
Serious question and not questioning the firefighters here, because I don't know.
For the firefighters out there watching this, why didn't they use the aerial truck?
IDK? Good question
I would guess they were going for an interior attack first - can't use a ladder pipe if you've got guys in the building because it will force the heat and smoke down on them. Once they lost the interior option they went to exterior.
I'm retired now, but was New York State certified interior structural firefighter and am an ex-Caption.
andydickey makes sense! Thanks!
Since I don't know how many FF's came with the first truck and ladder I'll be carefull.
It looks like an interior attack was done. The Firefighters failed to do a 360 degree visual check and attack the fire from the back. This should have had priority over the roof ops.
A far as my knowledge is concerned the roof ventilation is responsible for the spread and growth at the end. The FF would have been better of by knocking the fire down and then entering the garages from the rear. The fire was contained until the roof team cut more holes which provided more O2.
More handlines and a transitional attack from the rear would have been way more effective.
And you fight fires for who????
It probably got to the point where they just had to save the surrounding apartments.
it looks to me like they tring to let it burn there not even spraying the water down in there there spraying it over it
wheres fort moutain
Big lines big fires..
Wind issues with the Truck.....?
Nightrain Nightrain: it is a 2 storey ordinary construction the wind is not an issue as the stick does not need to be raised to it's full height and the stick does not react very violently in wind because of the way it is built not a lot of surface area to hit.
It seems the drone is within, or below, the required FAA 400 foot ceiling (higher with permission), good angles, and the battery lasted about as long as most high-end drones. The firefighting seemed 'typical'. Some departments deploy a two/three fighter team with the pumper truck's coiled fire hose and start watering the fire initiation point(s) while the main team deploys the long-term fighting setup. The roof trenching was effective. I would like to see wind oriented ladder hose and window and door water assaults into the main fire ASAP, not just after the venting and defense is setup. Hit that fire hard--early while preparing for the longterm. Good job overall, but COME-ON ! I know, I know, go to the academy and then you can be an after game quarterback. Wait, don't most people notice the 'good' work our astronauts do, without being 'experts' and it's appreciated. Why can't the obvious be quoted by we, the 'common' people, when it's our brave men and women defending our property (fire/civilians), our lives (fire/police/military/civilians) and our liberty (politicians/fire/police/military/citizens)? Peace-in, Jon
Im assuming they lost the entire complex?
No, only the last 3 units.
I live in that neighborhood and I saw the fire
James alan circle I live here too lol
I’m curious why the ladder wasn’t up in the air. What’s the point to pay millions for a machine you let sit there?
It's less expensive to have a machine and not use it than to need it and not have it.
They didn't need to use the ladder.
@@DaleDix they did! Towards the end of the video, I think the line that was over shooting the fire was actually that of the ladder. Maybe you didn’t know, but there is a nozzle at the end of the ladder.
Why bring the ladder truck and not use it unless it was just a ladder without water but if it was able to spray water from above then the fire chief should be fired.
The more I watch these videos the more I am convinced that these fires are not stopped they just burn themselves out. There couldn’t have been a better case for that than this. It was a small fire but all the engines were at the back where there was hardly any fire while the front it was raging with no firefighter until later.
Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life
Did they ever put it out
The intro to this video said it was put out in 80 minutes.
Yes i live in this community 5 homes were destroyed
Shit. I guess I never understand the concept of putting water on a fire.
Sky Crane at 50m on an exposed structure
9 minutes till first water... it's very very long time
They had water on the fire before the video even started and it continued the entire time
ah! a ladder, not a hose? oh! well!
That 3 hr i guess
This was my neighbor a Hawaiian man he was having a little party and he was dancing Hawaiian music with his kelt skirt snd accidentally knocked over the propane tank
I was their when it happened
Deck gun in the rear
Great quality video, pity all those roof walkers in the first ten mins forgot to to take a f($*ing hose up with them..
Yes: Truck companies don't deal with hand lines usually they ventilate and help out with search and rescue the search teams may at times be accompanied by hose teams but they are not engine companies so their first priorities are different.
"Roof walkers" don't really use hoses. Not really in the job description.
What the fuck man... I just can't get over this shit...
Did LA FD sell all their ladder trucks because I see one and it's doing nothing. Not the most stellar job by the LA FD. I'm seriously disappointed.
took them forever to get any water on it.
No. It took you forever to see exterior water from the rear. Hoselines were working inside right away. Your statement reveals that you have never fought fire before, or if you did, you did it poorly.
Seti m i
LOL! Literally 45 seconds into the video you see water has already been running out the back of the house and into the alleyway before the drone arrived. Check your prescription, Seti, because you need new glasses.
Must've had water problems . That's the only way I can see not using the ladder truck to put water from up top. Unless the dept is a joke !
That FD managed quite well actually:
1-Fire caused by a gas leak, this means a LOT of BTUs, and burning fast.
2-Wood frame building, another lot of available fuel.
3- The fire walls did not work, or at least not long enough.
4 There is no need to shoot water down from any ladder as long as the situation is desperate, it's not an indication of any ''' water problem''. Once the fire reach the roof, it won't go any further up!
5-They could have taken advantage of a deck gun, the engine was well located and it would have been more efficient than the 1.75'' used.
Anyway, good video, but giving only the bird's view while a more lot was going on in the lower parts of the building.
My 5 cents!
You never put water from the top unless you are doing an exterior attack - it will force the heat and smoke back down and if there are guys inside, then they are toast. My guess is they tried for the interior attack first - good ventilation there - but didn't have enough attack lines and lost it. It happens. Then went to the exterior attack.
your not allowed to fly over stuff like this
Just like you're not 'allowed' to go faster than the speed limit. In this case the person piloting the drone is creating less of a dangerous situation than speeding.
Private drone operators are allowed to fly over any incident as long as they do not interfere with operations or live stream.
Just.... Shut up already...
Nothing illegal about it. Someone on here also said that you can't live stream it but that's not illegal either. Guidelines and regulations are on the FAA's website. Just my 2 cents.
Live streaming isn't illegal. TV news do it all the time.
32:10 roof collapses
This was by boy noas house
that was my 10 birthday
Is your dad el hawiiano?
Time for some new tech on these fires. Takes so long for set up! Min ticking as lives go up in flames. How about compact trucks. That can get into these tight spots. An start attacking the fire while. The big boys set up. Maybe?
Is this a vollenter dept?
Don't know what vollenter is.
I thought the misspelt word would define the dept.
Russ Rohleder I believe this took place in the "Chatsworth" area In California which is covered by the Los Angeles CA city Fire Department. LAFD is one of the largest Fire Departments in the US and to the best of my knowledge it is fully professional with no volunteer components.
Yes, LAFD is a volunteer department. It's a new thing don't ya know? Putting volunteers in the largest cities in the country.
U NEED TOO GET THOSE MEN OFF THAT ROOF AN SROUND AND DROUND
Too many Chiefs not enough indians. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put water on flames. You stood for twenty minutes watching it burn.
It's sad that you're this ignorant
Lol
DISASTRO COMPLETO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spray like people pee...
This fire department sucks......................let it burn. Most departments are like that. You can see it's a car fire
Drummerboy1652 what?????
Drummerboy1652: Clearly you are in dire need of glasses there was nothing that even remotely looked like a car burning.
School?
I am so glad that they didn't get that TILLER TRUCK dirty, they are very difficult to clean. You have a six man vent crew on the roof and one
ground ladder in the alley, I hope that nit-wit chief found a new job in the Fast-Food-Industry the next day. Oh this is California....I guess it would
be politically incorrect to actually put the fire out until they make sure they have the correct balance of all races, genders and foreignors on the roof
before they take measures to protect egres routes from there.
Says the 🤡 who's never worked a fire in his life
Why deploy an aerial ladder and park it in front, not use it? Hand lines are wimps against fire out of control. No deck gun used on engine in the rear. Took far ttoo long for water to flow. Where was the commander - watching UA-cam? Good video of a disaster.
This fire would never have gotten out of control, had the responding VFD performed as a paid professional FD would have in the same situation. (i.e.) A PFD would have had a full First-In response of no less than 2 engines, 1 aerial, 1 squad team on the scene within 2 min.of receiving the alarm. There would have been a 1 1/2" handline charged and attacking the fire within another 2 mins. (4 min total) Additionally, there would have been a 2 1/2" handline laid to the fire by the second engine company within another 2 mins as well as a 6" fire hydrant line to supply both engines would have been laid and activated at the same time by the second engines crew. In this instance, it took the VFD's First-In crew more than 10 mins. just to get the first handline discharging water and that line had far less water pressure than what was needed to fight the fire. (i.e. discharging not much more than a good piss stream) Then, it was another 10 mins. before a second handline was put into play and neither of the two handlines were ever used to attack the seat of the fire. Inasmuch, as both lines were only used to play water on the fire's extension flames which were exiting the building. Additionally, the first handline throughout the video, never had anywhere near the water pressure that was needed to fight the fire.
The fact being, most PFD's First-In Officers would never even consider putting an aerial water tower and/or a monitor gun into operation with the type and size of fire that they would have found upon arrival. Not needing to do so, because (1) the response time (2) the responding crews would have immediately attacked and knocked down the fire and (3) then entered the building to further suppress the fire and extinguish it. PFD Officers are trained to quickly size-up and evaluate the situation which they face, using many learned and taught known facts as to how a fire acts, reacts and progresses etc. etc. etc..
Professional FD's dispatch an Aerial Ladder truck as apart of all First-In response team to reported structure fires. Doing so, mainly for manpower, the many variable size (i.e. 10' to 50') ground ladders and specialized equipment which ladder trucks carry on-board. There are many times when upon arrival, the First-In Officer will order the use of a truck's tower ladder or tower platform into action for the purpose of allowing firefighters to reach a roof, attic, crawl space and/or loft area of a structure, but rarely, if ever, for the purpose of an aerial water tower attack on a fire.
Hope this helps to clarify the questions you had concerning the non-use of an on-scene ladder truck.
@@theshadow1559 You do know this is a professional fire department right? Maybe you haven't heard of Los Angeles before, the second largest city in the country? Good try though.
Firstly I am not a fireman but looking at the way this fire was fought it seems that there is a lack of water getting to the fire and more so around the back where the biggest part of the fire was, I seem to find that the USA don't seem to be committed at times when I have watched other fire vids