Top 10 Differences Between Ripley (2024) & The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999)
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- Mr. Ripley is all about changing his background. Welcome to MsMojo, and today we’re looking at two on-screen adaptations of Patricia Highsmith’s Tom Ripley book series and their dissimilarities. We’ll only be comparing the 2024 Netflix series and the 1999 film and there’ll be major spoilers ahead for both. Our countdown includes the ending, characterization, Tom's reveal, and more! What did YOU think of the “Ripley” series? Let us know in the comments below!
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What did YOU think of the “Ripley” series? Let us know below, and be sure to also check out our video of One Day: Top 10 Differences Between the TV Series & Book - ua-cam.com/video/FEs5cKLAOaM/v-deo.html
It was great I loved it but Freddie Miles was a girl and she could dress like a man you could see she was a girl so I think she was miss casted
I loved both adaptations. But must admit, Andrew Scott is incredible.
More people should check out Talented Mr. Ripley. It’s very underrated
Agreed!
one of my very favorites of all time! That and Fargo starring Frances Mcdermott
Totally agreed! So underrated
Underrated? Are you high? It’s the best of all adaptations.
@@_PURAVIDA yes, it is the best indeed. Thats why it should have a better hype and attention and should be watched by more -thats why we say underrated but deserves much much better attention
I binged watched the whole thing. Absolutely amazing 👏
How come nobody is mentioning Plein Soleil with the AMAZING Alain Delon? That’s the best version.
can't find a version with English Subtitles, my french is rusty.
@@anlondubh Purple Noon is available on Amazon Prime to rent for $3.99.
@@anlondubhlook for Purple Noon 🤗
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Absolutely. Even with the changed ending they really captured the character and the atmosphere of the novel.
A Ripley fan for years, I finally 'got' the title character when I read Highsmith's journals which were recently released. The series is more consistent with her world view. During her NYC days in the fifties, she had endless relationships, some with very wealthy women, that ended badly. Money was a constant worry for her and she grew to resent the people she hung around. She left the States to escape its homophobic atmosphere. The first Ripley novel which she wrote right before she left reflected her own repressed self loathing, but needed a male protagonist, or it likely couldn't have been published. The Price of Salt, which explored the difficulties of female relationships in the USA and showed a more empathetic side of the author was published under a pseudonym. Once the movie adaptation, Carol, hit the screen the novel finally got mainstream notice. The series captures the self-loathing more accurately while the film which I also loved took a lot of liberties with the text, still both were beautifully shot and acted.
I had no idea about all of this. I was wondering what the author's relationship was to queerness. I loved the movie Carol as well and had no idea it was based on another of Highsmith's work.
Her diaries and journal are amazing! A must read! She really addresses that otherness that Ripley dramatized so well. "I am no babbling brook of rebellion, but a smooth sea of varied, but honest character. And if I am green, when other seas are blue, I was born green, and I was born a sea."
I think Andrew Scott did a great job ❤
He was too old. He's 48 and Tom was 25 as was Dickie.
@@SamSpadeHawaii That was my first thought when I saw the trailer. He might be a great actor (I haven't seen him in anything yet), but the point of the Ripley stories is, that he is very young, just like Dickie. And charismatic. I don't like the 1990s version (not a Matt Damon fan), but at least everyone looked the right age. I'd recommend the French version with Alain Delon from the '60s.
@@SamSpadeHawaiisays the person who only watched the trailer but not the actual series
I'm into psychology and did a fair amount of reading on psychopathy, narcissism and stuff. For me Scott has managed to do the almost impossible: portraying a full blown psychopath to perfection. Basically every trait I've read about those callous, sneaky but quite charming monsters comes through in his acting. I enjoyed every minute of it. The Minghella version is a completely different thing, though I liked that one, too.
Matt Damon was never Ripley for me. No where near. And although the film version looked good it got over complicated near the end and lost its way. Ripley has the advantage of 8 episodes and Andrew Scott is mesmerising. Also - I love the cat!
The most wonderful cat!!
If only Lucio the cat can testify. Haha
My grandmother watched the movie version years ago and she watched the Netflix version with me when it came out. We both enjoyed it and, when I asked her which she preferred, she said she liked the Netflix version better.
Andrew Scott is so subtle and nuanced in his performance as Ripley. He needs such careful observation to understand him, a tiny flicker of a smile around one corner of his mouth tells the story.... he is such an amazing actor!
Didn’t even remember they were making a series about the story. The 1999 movie is the best adaptation thanks to its charismatic cast with Matt Damon in the title part, Jude Law as Dickie, Philip Seymour Hoffman & even Gwyneth Paltrow is good as Marge. Plus the late great Anthony Minghella had the right cinematic eye for the movie
Absolutely not. The presence of Damon and Paltrow makes the 1999 movie utterly unwatchable.
I am a huge fan of the movie & thought it couldn't be outdone. Boy was I wrong. Give the show a shot. You won't regret it.
Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow are the absolute wrong casting options for this story
Film is amazing. But I love Andrew Scott and he pretty much never misses.
I hope the turn all books in the series into series, so much potential.
I personally thought the show was better
I really enjoyed both versions. Andrew Scott's acting was amazing in this role.
The Ripley series is MUCH better than that forgettable and shallow movie of 1999. The cinematography is superb, so very stylish!
I am a huge fan of the movie. I read the novel and I prefered the movie! It's the only time this happened. I will watch the series, and let you know later.
Matt Damon’s ripley had more emotion, I think. When he first kills dickie, he’s noticeably panicked and it’s this panic that makes him a ticking time bomb. This new ripley is more calm and sociopathic
Loved the Cat❤
The french adaptation Plein Soleil is also awesome!
I have been a fan of Patricia Highsmith and the Ripley stories since 1971 when I first read the Talented Mr Ripley. I have watched the two previous film versions and was excited to learn that the Netflix series was in Black & white as well as having the Italy scenes in Italian with subtitles. However, right from the first scene, I was uneasy about Andrew Scott. He is almost 48 years old and looked every bit of it. When Tom met up with Mr Greenleaf, he was 25 as was his son. I watched all 8 episodes and enjoyed it as I used to enjoy Cine Noir, but not as a good version of Patricia Highsmith's opener to the Ripliad. Patricia Highsmith herself liked Alain Delon as Tom. So my impression was that she wanted her character to be at ease and happy with his new persona. Both Tom and Dickie come across as older, and uninteresting.
Totally agree - especially Dickie is uninteresting in the Netflix series. Can't comment Ripley, because he lacks emotions and acts like a psychopath.
I watched the series yesterday mainly because of Andrew Scott, who is brilliant as Tom Ripley, but I prefer the movie. What was that with stairs all the time? Kind of pretensious, I think. It's worth watching for Scott, really.
Thank you!!! I actually began to laugh out loud every time stairs were reintroduced! And the constant clacking of shoes! Does no one ever take off their shoes in Italy? Especially if they are dragging a body down the stairs in the middle of the night? And why the hell didn't Tom wrap Freddie's head in a towel to prevent blood stains on the steps? So many stupid mistakes. I was very disappointed.
@@laurent.674 Exactly. And he didn't even notice the blood stains until after he disposed of the body. I was half expecting someone from the building to discover those blood stains before he came back. 😅
You Forget an adaptation of Highsmith's novel : "Plein soleil" de René Clément (1960) with Alain Delon.
Yes,thank you from a pedant.
They are two very different movies. I enjoyed them both.
Andrew Scott is the difference!!! ❤
Andrew Scott’s portrayal of Ripley is absolutely reptilian. Shockingly good.
Overall - I’m partial to the series. The B&W cinematography will undoubtedly win awards, and the less Hollywood, grittier noir feeling of the series is a better fit for me…and of course - my favorite amongst the cast; the cat.
Andrew Scott was amazing….like the series better than the movie for sure….
Put Alain Delon's ripley too. Don't disrespect the legend.
Matt Damon was great in this role - didn't need another adaptation.
Purple Noon 1960 Alain Delon
I am cool with another adaptation but 8 hours! The film is so beautifully shot and you are seduced into it. Also the age difference in ages between the Toms sticks out to me. I guess I prefer the younger Tom.
Matt Damon’s Ripley was a great performance but there was one problem with it. His Ripley was not the same Ripley that Patricia Highsmith created.
In the 1999 version, Hoffman was a miscast as a Freddy, far away from the book personage, but Hoffman was so good that he remade the personage to make it better and more outstanding (and superbly nastier). It was like in "Gone With the Wind", Scarlet should have been given to Paulette Goddard, should not have not been so beautiful, so divinely pretty as Vivian Leigh, but that Force of Nature that was Leigh more than made up for all the "non-right" defects, achieved perfection by wronging.
I loved the movie, and I love the series on Netflix.
Never watched it, but i do agree with these picks. Happy friday afternoon, Rebecca. Take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well.
The series was brilliant!
Andrew Scott was brilliant as Tom Ripley. I loved the way the series developed all the characters.
I liked both the 1999 movie and the Netflix series. They’re different enough to be engaging.
I liked the RIPLEY more than the talented mr.ripley. Ripley is more detailed gives us a better understanding of Ripley.
That's interesting, because I felt the opposite. Couldn't understand Andrew Scott's Ripley at all :) He is without emotions, has no romantic or sexual feelings. Al that seems to motivate him is money. Matt Damon made me feel awkward with mr. Ripley, sometimes I found myself feeling sorry for him. At least I could understand his emotions (because they were shown on his face and expressions). Andrew Scott's Ripley was more like a psychopath to me. Can't say, who was more faithful to the novel, because I read it some 30 years ago.
@@1arttu sexuality was just added into the movie . . in the books its kept neutral like in the series, and yes all its about the money and image for him
I've watched both and read the book. And the movie seems more alive, the casting is spot on. The series is... Doesn't sit well, doesn't make sense. If i had to chose one is the movie, for sure.
I agree here, specially when the inspector visits Tom in Venice. Like a bit of lighting and beard was enough to convince the inspector? Why’d the inspector not check the “Tom Ripley” passport that was confiscated, surely he’d have found the difference right there and then
@@kilokay5506 EXACTLY
Matt Damon forever as Ripley.
Alain Delon
@@hinanochick Nope bad storyline and boring plot. NOT Alain’s fault, he was phenomenal as always.
Matt Damon’s Ripley was a great performance but there was one problem with it. His Ripley was not the same Ripley that Highsmith created.
@@sb5224 You are100% correct. His portrayal was sympathetic and I felt sorry for him. The most recent actor played him cold and stoic closer to the book imho.
Ripley is quite charming in the 1999 version, the Netflix series is great but Andrew Scott's interpretation isn't someone you'd want to hang out with
All cinema adaptations of Ripley were very moralistic, in the sense they ALL give the protagonist something he never had: a moral compass. The book character is completely amoral, and I find amazing he was imagined in the incredible moralistic decade of 1950. So I prefere this Ripley much more than Matt Damon's. The cinema adapation also made Richard a much more unsypathetic character, all these changes seems to me a kind o treason to the original story.
yes, Damon and especially Jude Law were great in “TTMR”…. As were the side characters played by Cate Blanchett and Philip Seymour Hoffman… But the one thing they didn’t have was the actor who plays “Ripley” in the new Netflix series… He was in Black mirror. (smithereens) and who could forget Sherlock with Benedict Cumberbatch. My point is he’s an underrated top notch actor probably one of the best of his generation… So I’m looking forward to seeing Ripley, if only for that.
Sous le Soleil is never mentioned here, yet it's amazing, tons of french flair and a sublime Alain Delon.
The 2024 version was the only film that has been able to keep my absolute attention in a very long time. I very much enjoyed it!
Hate the 99... LOVE the 24!!! The old movie was such a "movie". I could never get past me watching Matt Damon acting whereas I never actually saw Andrew Scott... I saw Ripley.
Ripley 2024 is one of the best TV shows I’ve seen in a very long time. I haven’t read the books but I can just feel the faithfulness to the source material in every aspect
Plein Soliel is still the best adaptation.
I enjoyed both. I liked the black and white format of Ripley
Whatever ones preference: movie- series- colour- black and white, both stand up to each other . For me it’s very enjoyable to have watched both and see the same character Tom Ripley interpreted in different ways. However both actors succeed in their performances.
Me gusto más la segunda serie, más emoción y suspenso, los felicito 👏 ❤❤Costa Rica 2024 la disfrute por Netflix ❤
La serie más exelente es la que disfrute por Netflix la nueva de Ripley del 2024 fue extraordinaria
Sticking to the source material is neither always a good idea nor a guaranty for success. I think Minghella did an awesome job. Ripley is soulless, but he knows it and it hurts his non existent soul. He his more than just a monster.
Purple Noon with Alain Delon.
I like both and Ripley is closer to the book, but I prefer The Talented Mr. Ripley. I think it is actually better then the book. Jude Law as Dickey is so charming. And Matt Damon’s version of Tom is somewhat sympathetic even though he is a psychopath. He gave more depth to the character. But both are very good movies.
They are both great adaptation for their time!
do top 10 Aly and Winston moments from New Girl
I absolutely love Ripley! The black and is brilliant.
The new version is much better in every sense. Great story 😊👌👌👌
New tv show version is pure masterpiece, despite little connection to the original novel
I think the recent series is far more powerful. I might be the only one who is not a fan of Matt Damon's Ripley. The movie is way more eerie to me. I get way more creep vibes from Damon which I guess makes his portrayal accurate. I know Andrew Scott mainly as Moriarity (Sherlock) and 'Hot Priest' (FleaBag). I personally loved the black and white and comparisons to Caravaggio which reminded me of Citizen Kane. I lived in Italy when I was a youth and loved revisiting all that beauty especially in Rome and Venice, although I lived in Vincenza. I loved watching Tom learn Italian gradually. I loved the comparisons to Caravaggio and the big reveal at the end explicitly alluding to Tom's "Art" of deception. So well done from all aspects. The movie really pales in comparison to me although I love the MidCentury feel of the film, I feel the 1950's era darkness-in-naivete has been done to death. So it was nice to see a change in pace and style.
The recent episodic drama really FKS with your head. The death of Dickie... In the boat... "Dickie" dies in a boat. I knew it was coming and it was even that more horrifying.
I need to read the book.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💖💖💖💖💖💖THE SERIES AND THE CAST ESPECIALLY THE B&W THEME AND PHOTOGRAPHY WATCHED THE SERIES TWICE, AND WILL WATCH IT AGAIN JUST BRILLIANT!! CLASSIC!
Can you make a Top 30 or Top 20 Inspirational Characters On the Autism Spectrum for Autism Awareness Month. I loved your Top 10
8:30 Fun fact: The Freddie Miles character in the Netflix series is played by Eliot Sumner, the daughter of Gordon Sumner, best known as Sting. Eliot identifies as gender-neutral.
Ruined it for me. Added nothing but to push an agenda
Why film beautiful Italy in B&W? That’s a bummer. Was nice to see a former Ripley though 😊
I've watched the series twice so far.
I have read the book and seen the movie but not the Scott series yet. Jude Law was so magnetic and beautiful in the movie and Hoffman was so excellent that they stole the show imo. The movie was really good but kind of faded in the last half. I will probably watch the new series and look forward to seeing a different adaptation.
Wardrobe and costumes do not seem accurate with the time frame. Looks like they just went to jcrew and shot black and white so we wouldn’t notice. No more remakes please.
I loved Andrew Scott version great
I was obsessed with this series. Andrew made Ripley sexy, albeit extremely disturbed.
how about the no singing "My Funny Valentine" in the series. would've loved to see Andrew sing. 🤭
The newer Netflix version is like watching paint dry.
Thanks the new one is so boring. Why 8 hours? Where is the beauty of Italy?
😂
Black and white FILM is so warm and sensual and rich, so many subtleties in the greys of light and shadow, curves of light around ornaments, and it remains so even digitised later. La Dolce Vita is gorgeous.
Digital from the get go loses all that. The Netflix version is a visual snorefest. I skipped forward to see if it opened into colour for the Italian scenes but it was all in b/w. The thing about TTMR (and Plein Soleil) was how much you really felt the sun and nature of Italy and the sea, the environment. Who wants to watch a film set in a dreary flattened-out Italy that looks like a late night B movie gothic horror?
No need to make another adaptation, the movie was great, top actors and actually gave Jude Law an Oscar nomination.
I respect your opinion, and disagree. The book is super rich, and deserves other takes. 😊
It was good, but there's more books in the series so I think a show series could see them all adapted.
What about the sequel with John Malkovich “Ripley’s Game”? And now John is in this version.
And why replace Philip Seymour Hoffman with a woman?
@@libelinhaa2079 because she’s the daughter of Sting
I'd want to compare both iterations to Purple Noon, although I think both Purple Noon and Talented Mr. Ripley are arguably great films. Ripley however is too time consuming, even for a miniseries that's adhering to a novel, and makes me glad that films can condense things that don't need much elaboration, such as the lengthy pace of Tom commuting back and forth between hotels, cities, and stations. I even think the actors' performances are kind of two-dimensional and some of them are a little miscast, such as how they made Freddie and his friend or boyfriend too young, boyish, and flamboyant to be pals of Dickie who's a lot older, stoic, homophobic, and macho to be that open for their company. It's especially strange that Marge would accept Tom's innocence with how she behaves around him and I can't tell if she sent the detective that book with Dickie's photo because she realized Tom was impersonating him.
Both had their perks, but the original's Tom was a bit too unbelievable, and the Cate Blanchette role seemed sort of out of place, which I guess it was. The new version is sort of slow in the first 4 episodes or so, but when the inspector enters the series. . .ah, then it shines. Couldn't stand either of the Freddie actors, but I think the modern version was unbelievably bad casting. I felt that had I not seen the movie version first, I would not have enjoyed the series as much.
I ve never watched the hollywood version before. But the series got me hooked and i was rather dissapointed..too many characters to expand in less time. It all felt like "catch me if you can" rather than thriller. But the characters of Dickie and Freddie in the movie felt more alive though..
I appreciate these comments. Enjoyed the movie, but not sure if i want to commit to 8 hours if it’s not as good. Thank you.
Moriarty style 😂
I won't ever survive the death of Dickie.
nothing about the series seems an improvement on the film
The new one is truer to the novel. The first one is pretty and has Philip Seymor Hoffman, which is a big plus... I don't care for the transgender replacement. Freddie Miles should be intimidating... I don't think Freddie with a vagina works.
The only difference that matters is that this new eight-hour mini-series isn't as good as any of its predecessors. Zaillian didn't have anything better to do?
How's it peepin'?
Loved the way the series adaptation was shot … but was not a fan of the casting. I watched it anyway, and was glad I did in the end. Still would recast several roles though.
New Marge was dull. Gwen was a very sweet Marge.
The talented mr Ripley is the best. Hoffman is the best Freddie Miles. I don't know what on earth played Freddie Miles on Ripley
The film and its additions is superb. The series is very well made but yet another example of Netflix squeezing every last drop out of a story that was brilliantly told in two hours with better plot twists. Netflix drags out everything because they want your viewing time. They are a con. Watch the film. It’s great.
Netflix did not make the series. It was made by Showtime in 2021 who for financial reasons sold it to Netflix. Netflix would never make something as good as this……… the opinion of most critics.
Gore Vidal anyone?
I thought it was very well done!
Except, yes, except...
the Miles character AND Ripley's Venice Interview with the "detective".
(Side note, I have never read the books and I have not seen the "Talented Mr. Ripley".)
Spoilers:
I know I'm going to get an earful from the defenders, but I hope you hear me out first.
When the Miles character rolled in, right away I said "fake nose", it's a girl in makeup. So right away I was thinking, "very strange".
Greenleaf is having an affair with Miles and he fools his girlfriend... or maybe she is wearing makeup to hide that she is a killer, to hide that Miles is a girl...
in other words, I had no idea that this was a non-binary actress playing the role of a man in the movie, I ONLY thought the makeup was there to hide the character's true identity NOT some "modern identity" stance or whatever.
THEN on top of that, I feel the makeup
on Ripley in Venice was so OBVIOUSLY Ripley, that unless the detective was so freaking stupid, no one would fall for it!
It dawned on me that they did the makeup this way to coincide with the lousy makeup job of Miles. REALLY?!? Why?
The point is, it thru me off. HOWEVER, what is even more ridiculous is, WHY, if you are using a non-binary actress to play a male role would you PUT MASCULINE MAKEUP ON THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!? If the point is to OWN the role as a non-binary playing a male, and that in itself is "NORMAL", then why try to make them look like a male?! You would think that the actor/actress would be offended that they are changing the way they look (not talking wardrobe), that their identity should be enough! AND that is the issue, isn't it?! It is either enough or it isn't. The producer's of Ripley declare, it isn't enough, and there is no other conclusion there could be.
I loved the series, except for these two (well, three, including the autopsy scene, bludgeoned, but they won't check for any other body wounds because they would have to "lower the covering sheet" and ?!?, seems like another silly confusing decision) bad decisions by the producers/director.
I liked the Netflix series, but the detective being fooled by Ripley's disguise was so implausible--especially since Ripley didn't even bother to disguise his voice or mannerisms--that it almost ruined the show for me.
The 1999 Ripley version is better.
Does Hollywood really not have any male American actors under the age of 40?
Paltrow was an amazing Marge...Fanning is blah, miscasted.miscast. I'll take any adaptation, what a treat, but the movie is Beyond!!
Fanning was much better
The things is Dakota's Marge is definitely more accurate to the Marge of the book and I really liked Gwyneth Paltrow's Marge but I think with her being more glamourised for the 1999 film was a bit of a vehicle for Gwyneth to be captured in that moment at the peak of her career in a Hitchcock heroine style role. Nonetheless, both them did a good job.
Neither come close to Alain Delon in original
Ripley 3 is excellent but WAAAAY too long.
The movie was obviously better but the series was quite engaging
No, that shallow movie was absolutely worse.
1999 better and its in colors. You can feel the mediteranean italian vibe .
The movie is far far better and vibrant, the cast is perfect and charming, you feel everything. One of my top movies!
I don’t want to compare and don’t want to categorize the series as “remake” as there are remarkable differences, I would like to evaluate as the series was influenced by the talented mr ripley :).
The series is ok and Adam Scott is a great actor who reflects the disturbance, panic and psycho of the character and felt the tension but found the other cast relatively stable.
since this is not a remake but an influence with a lot of differences, I wish there was a better closing in the series and Ripley was found out to be fake and punished in some way!
Die Amerikanische Freund!
Euh, most iconic? God USA is definitely a lost place. If you love cinema, I advise Plein solei (1960) with Alain Delon, you will see what "Iconic" means.
Such a weird 2024 conceit to pop a woman in the role of Freddie and expect the 1950's male characters to act like she's a man and for viewers to also pretend that she's a man. What a bizarre, anachronistic demand to do in an otherwise excellent production. Completely blew the suspension of disbelief.
The series is a drag. It has style... it is beautifully shot, but the lack of chemistry between the actors and the casting choices, particularly for Tom and Marge, make for some of the dullest dialogues... it's all so stiff... it doesn't feel like a book coming to life on screen. SO BORING. Such wasted potential.