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  • @patrickpadriga6449
    @patrickpadriga6449 4 роки тому +13

    Phantom and Bamboo are allelic,same BEL complex that’s why you can’t produce a normal morph for the minimum bec it acts like super,that also explains the maximum 9 combo genes

  • @solomonbarburas9518
    @solomonbarburas9518 4 роки тому +4

    3:55, can't be all single genes at the bottom of the badge because bamboo and phantom are allelic, so everything will have bamboo or phantom

  • @danielpatton3317
    @danielpatton3317 4 роки тому +5

    Are bamboo and phantom allelic? That would explain why they aren't showing up. If the only single gene combo you can produce is bamboo or phantom, the calculator isn't broken.

    • @BBMReptilesPR
      @BBMReptilesPR 4 роки тому +1

      Bamboo and Phantom are allelic. Will not produce normals. Either bamboo or Phantom

    • @ruthless9609
      @ruthless9609 4 роки тому +1

      A single gene combo? Dont ya need more then one gene for a combo

    • @19cowgirl77
      @19cowgirl77 4 роки тому

      The bamboo and the Phantom are allelic which is why you only see 2 single gene animals . every single animal will have either phantom or bamboo in it so you only have the possibility of 2 1 gene animals. No normals. And 9 max gene out of 10.

    • @ruthless9609
      @ruthless9609 4 роки тому

      @@19cowgirl77 think BBM already said that a few hour before you. But yep ya both are correct and the calculator was too.

    • @danielpatton3317
      @danielpatton3317 4 роки тому

      @@ruthless9609 not with dominate and codominant genes. Bamboo is a codom and so is phantom.
      Complete codoms are usually called supers and are visually different from incomplete codoms.
      Doms can be heterozygous (1 gene present) or homozygous (2 genes present) but it doesnt influence the pattern. Pinstripe versus Super Pinstripe is an example.
      Recessive genes are different. They can be heterozygous or homozygous.
      An example of a recessive is Piebald.
      The heterozygous version will be nonvisual bar some possible markers: dragged pattern toward the tail, "railroad tracks" on the belly, and a connected dorsal stripe toward the tail of the snake, etc. Those are only indicators if pied was present in the parents.
      In the case of a homozygous pied animal, you get the classic Piebald.
      I hope that helped and I didnt come off as a douche canoe. Also, thats my understanding of how it works and if I am wrong in any way, I wish to be corrected.

  • @nightprowess1244
    @nightprowess1244 4 роки тому +3

    I am interested in and plan to breed ball pythons in the future and I was planning on buying both a Female and Male Yellow Belly Albino Het Pied from someone but he told me that you shouldn't breed an albino to an albino because even though it works out fine most of the time, sometimes the offspring can be "weaker." I asked what he meant by that and if he had a source for it (because I can't find anything on this anywhere!) but he didn't really help clarify or provide a source, he just said experienced breeders know this and new breeders might not. So, is this true? Is it possible breeding an albino to an albino can result in some offspring that maybe are more prone to health issues or have a weaker immune system or something? Any insight on this would be really helpful!

  • @richcorbett6491
    @richcorbett6491 4 роки тому +1

    Hello welcome back I hope you are ok I’m sorry for your loss

  • @SwingingPythons
    @SwingingPythons 4 роки тому +1

    It's recessive you wouldn't get a double visual you get double hets or something that's the best of both worlds and that would mean they were compatible but still recessive. Like the enhancer and desert ghost.

  • @justanotherdayfamily3128
    @justanotherdayfamily3128 Рік тому

    I'm working on producing my panda pies and lighting pies. Then breading those two together and then again to get visuals.

  • @alishabinner5709
    @alishabinner5709 4 роки тому +2

    I've always wondered if the Storm Trooper was a double axanthic . . . Maybe they thought they had hets from the same line and it was actually 2 different hets that eventually got passed down the tree. Thats been my guess anyways. I enjoy all your videos! Thanks for keeping up with it. I learn so much 😊

  • @KimberDillon4
    @KimberDillon4 2 роки тому +1

    I'm considering getting into the breeding snakes business and your channel is helping a lot, thank you! Just out of curiosity, is there a benefit to not having a lay box? You seem to have great success. Thanks again!!!

  • @Will_Bird
    @Will_Bird 4 роки тому +1

    Jolliff began breeding his Axanthic with VPI line Axanthic 20 years ago sir.

    • @Ascensionadventures
      @Ascensionadventures 4 роки тому

      Im actually trying to expand on his project but of course he doesnt like fans. picked up a bunch of axanthics from all around but guess ill just be playing

    • @Will_Bird
      @Will_Bird 4 роки тому

      @@Ascensionadventures I have a killer female Axanthic Tiger possible Het ALbino for sale right now.

  • @lanedj801
    @lanedj801 4 роки тому

    I didn’t even think about the fact that a coral glow and banana would make a super form. What a hilarious frustrating predicament.

  • @michaelpryor78
    @michaelpryor78 3 роки тому

    Idk how much I agree with your inclusion of lavender albinos on this list. It depends on what you define a project as. If you're talking about working multiple genes into lavender, then I agree with you (unless of course you're going for dreamsicles), but stand-alone lavenders seem to do pretty well.

  • @sephramey6489
    @sephramey6489 5 місяців тому

    I'll be finding about VPI axanthic crossed with HRA.

  • @robertbailey4454
    @robertbailey4454 4 роки тому +2

    I wish there was a way to get a Butter or Bamboo with blue eyes.

    • @ruthless9609
      @ruthless9609 4 роки тому

      Umm supers

    • @robertbailey4454
      @robertbailey4454 4 роки тому

      @@ruthless9609 True, but I want a visual Butter or Bamboo with blue eyes.

    • @ruthless9609
      @ruthless9609 4 роки тому

      @@robertbailey4454 you know what they say you can want/wish in one hand and $h!t in the other and see which fills up first. The genetics just dont work that way

    • @robertbailey4454
      @robertbailey4454 4 роки тому +1

      @@ruthless9609 Yeah I already knew that. lol Hence the wishing part.

    • @ruthless9609
      @ruthless9609 4 роки тому

      @@robertbailey4454 lmfao right back at ya... hence why I used that "WISH" phrase. I wish ya the best in wishing!

  • @rdizzy1
    @rdizzy1 4 роки тому

    In reality, these snakes should be gene sequenced to instantly prove genes and it would make it far easier to keep track of. Especially with more expensive snakes, people could make a genetic database, seems like it would be worth it for the large breeders with a lot of money.

  • @ruthless9609
    @ruthless9609 4 роки тому

    I believe with the toffee and candy they both work together to produce a visual snake. Just like toffee with albino and candy with albino one copy of each gene (het) give you a visual. I know morphmarket's calculator doesn't display the visual hets correctly. But yeah I believe if ya had a snake that is het toffee and het candy you'll get a visual. Also I know I saw a snake listed het vpi, tsk and mj axanthic. I couldn't find the ad again, I did find a guy that has a het albino, pied, vpi, tsk axanthic listed but the ad stated he didnt know which line of axanthic, that's why he listed it as double het axanthic. Possibly that's what the other ad was, the person just listed every type of axanthic cause they didnt know truly what was what... but if I recall the price was pretty high. Good video again Chris

    • @seblambeau2566
      @seblambeau2566 4 роки тому

      Candy and Toffee are the same mutation, but different lines. So a Candy x Toffee looks like a Candy (or a Toffee lol).

  • @greg3893
    @greg3893 3 роки тому

    The mon arch gene is compatible for the Bourgogne gene ( Bourgogne is proven for JPP ) french Breeder

  • @saradelatorre9469
    @saradelatorre9469 4 роки тому

    I have a Sulfur fire with a full dorsal??? How do I know if its not a super???

  • @irrigationtim
    @irrigationtim 4 роки тому +1

    I liked the Super Sulfur and the Super Fire .

  • @maggiepie8810
    @maggiepie8810 2 роки тому

    Red axanthic and VPI axanthic could potentially be possible, due to the fact that red axanthics are an incomplete dominant, and the single gene visuals don't look all that similar. 🤔

  • @baguettewoman1413
    @baguettewoman1413 4 роки тому +6

    you don't want to breed spiders at all you could bring two spiders with absolutely no head wobble and half of their babies might still need to be put down. it's really cruel to breed a species for their looks if it's sacrifices their quality of life. Please do not buy or breed spider ball pythons

  • @trapier1381
    @trapier1381 4 роки тому +1

    lmao i guess after reading everyone posted what i thought as well on the morph calc.. lmao.. another great vid chris.. always learning from you.. thx

    • @ChrisHardwickanimaladventures
      @ChrisHardwickanimaladventures  4 роки тому +1

      Yea, I missed the allelic Bamboo Phantom combo, such a rookie mistake LOL

    • @jonflannery8984
      @jonflannery8984 4 роки тому

      @@ChrisHardwickanimaladventures I believe myself and anyone else who chimed in to point out the mistake was possibly missing your valid point about muddying the waters with too many genes. Thanks for more awesome content.

  • @aidenortega4737
    @aidenortega4737 4 роки тому +1

    Hey chris, looking to start breeding ball pythons. Which incubator do you recommend or should I go diy cooler?

    • @shannonbailey342
      @shannonbailey342 4 роки тому

      I just had my first (unexpected) clutch. I looked up diy incubator on UA-cam and came across one that i tried. Took an igloo cooler drill a couple of holes in top. Take an aquarium water heater and water circulation fan. Put water in bottom just enough to cover both water heater and fan. Then i put eggs in a shoe box tub with 2 holes on opposite side and a lid that is not air tight. I put dry substrate in shoe box to cradle eggs. When putting shoe box in the cooler i made a stand so the shoe box wasnt touching the water. Then once a wk i would pop open cooler wipe off condensation from shoe box lid and 60 days later i had 100% successful hatch.

    • @timfoil2319
      @timfoil2319 4 роки тому

      I made mine from an old beverage cooler like Chris. It works great. Also the Hot Box incubator looks like a good brand. I hear good things about it

    • @aidenortega4737
      @aidenortega4737 4 роки тому

      @@shannonbailey342 thanks!

    • @shannonbailey342
      @shannonbailey342 4 роки тому

      @@aidenortega4737 your welcome. Hope it helps. Good luck with your breeding season. :)

  • @alexcarney5842
    @alexcarney5842 4 роки тому

    really random question and potentially dumb as i am new-ish to ball pythons but why are super fire (black eye leucistics) so expensive? the look really cool but you can get a male and female fire for like $50 each and for example you could get a male and female pastel for $50 each and if you breed them and get a super pastel it cost what $80? but you breed the fires and get a leucistic and the cheapest you can find is a $300 male. I understand that they look alot cooler and are more desirable i guess but they are equally as easy to breed as any other gene so i dont understand why they cost so much. also same with super butter (BEL) butter is a bit more expensive about $100 per snake to breed but BEL cost up to $800 and again is it not just as easy to breed as any other co dom gene? When i said $100 per snake to breed i meant for just the actual single gene snake not the cost to actually breed it but thanks for explaining guys

    • @antoniogonzalez4534
      @antoniogonzalez4534 4 роки тому

      I thought same but came to conclusion that they're in a high demand also say you do try to breed one the cost of heating and feeding for up to 3 years has to be accounted for not to mention the cleaning of 2 snakes then let's say you succeed and get 8 eggs maybe 1 or 2 will come out super if lucky maybe more if real lucky or even a chance of 0 now you have 10 snakes to house feed and clean clearly costing more then the few extra hundred bucks if you just bought a super in first place lol

    • @ruthless9609
      @ruthless9609 4 роки тому

      Supply and demand is the route to all economics. Super pastels been around since the beginning and it's not that impressive. Thus driving down the need and driving up supply thus we get an inexpensive product. Other more desirable genes like lets use the super sulfur, need goes up supply goes down and in turn drives up prices. This is the same for single genes too. It might only be one gene but when a new gene comes up prices are crazy... ex: zuwadi is pretty new and single geners are going for $2000-4000. Hopefully this crash course in economics helps out

  • @camoconstrictors6374
    @camoconstrictors6374 4 роки тому

    Awesome video one of my projects right now is to make a black axanthic vpi axanthic I'm hoping I should be able to tell the difference I think it's going to be an awesome animal

  • @dobber43
    @dobber43 4 роки тому

    I think itd be cool to see the eyes of a black eyed lucy albino, or blue eyed lucy albino feel it could look interesting

  • @pogospythons3425
    @pogospythons3425 4 роки тому +3

    Do more live the week of it was awesome lol

    • @misse2013
      @misse2013 4 роки тому

      It was awesome! But I think he's burned out... 12 hour streams will burn anyone out!

  • @Thetis058
    @Thetis058 4 роки тому

    Great video . Those first snakes though the black/grey/silver are gorgeous.

    • @al3xdak1dd34
      @al3xdak1dd34 4 роки тому +1

      Look up the storm trooper

    • @Thetis058
      @Thetis058 4 роки тому +1

      @@al3xdak1dd34 Thank you these snakes are gorgeous.

  • @Ascensionadventures
    @Ascensionadventures 4 роки тому

    Thanks for everything Chris! would love to chat some day dude!

  • @toddstrange9184
    @toddstrange9184 4 роки тому

    Why does the lavender albino's eyes turn black when they are older

  • @Hardhatreptiles95
    @Hardhatreptiles95 4 роки тому

    I got a male vpi axanthic spider and normal female and calico female and pastal female. Planning to do a breeding project with them yes im doing spider gene's you can love me or hate me I really don't care. But I support the more positive then the people that are like ew you're a horrible person.

  • @giacalonebuilding4443
    @giacalonebuilding4443 2 роки тому

    Different axanthic lines are not compatible

  • @Dovietail
    @Dovietail 4 роки тому

    Yes, but why avoid ultramel? You never said.

  • @Wulfgeist
    @Wulfgeist 4 роки тому

    Bobby is getting so big!

  • @TheYgds
    @TheYgds 4 роки тому

    Has anyone attempted inducing parthenogenesis to produce female half-clones?

  • @mythcurcheckit
    @mythcurcheckit 4 роки тому

    Why dont we talk about the full scaleless females not being fertile Hardwick?

  • @802reptiles4
    @802reptiles4 4 роки тому

    Awesome video

  • @Dovietail
    @Dovietail 4 роки тому

    Sick to death of "WHAT IS IT?" and "probable_______" ads on Morph Market. 😡

    • @ronan5823
      @ronan5823 3 роки тому

      Yeah, sometimes they’re pretty as pets but there’s been a ton of them

  • @JacobH93
    @JacobH93 4 роки тому

    I feel like if someone wants to see what the double axanthic would look like (If not just like a regular axanthic) I think the snakes produced on the way would all basically be “pet quality”

  • @janetlapierre8307
    @janetlapierre8307 3 роки тому

    Should be over 3000 combos shouldn’t there. 5 to the power of 5

  • @680ecks
    @680ecks 4 роки тому

    Have a nice lesser yb pastel get clown and a male clown pastel lesser and put it in calculate and would get 70% white snakes BELs and Ivory's and wouldn't know any other genes in any to hold them back or sell them so I think I'm going to put her to something else.

    • @danielpatton3317
      @danielpatton3317 4 роки тому

      Is the male yb? If not, you won't get ivories. Just bel+

    • @680ecks
      @680ecks 4 роки тому

      @@danielpatton3317 yep missed that yb not pastel

    • @680ecks
      @680ecks 4 роки тому

      @@danielpatton3317 I'm just starting so a bunch of white snakes would be ok just harder and you never know could get some nice stuff that's not white .

  • @thegooch7206
    @thegooch7206 4 роки тому +2

    First for those that like that thing.

  • @DIDToddlers
    @DIDToddlers 4 роки тому

    Here