Agreed. She really doesn't seem like the type person who cared whether the general public hallowed her name. The fact that Einstein publicly proclaimed her genius, and later went out of his way to secure a professor position for her at one of the USA's finest universities was surely more than enough for her modest ego.
I’ve literally learned more about Important yet forgotten women in history through this channel than in all my years of formal education. It’s been enlightening and ha s changed the way I think about women’s contributions historically.
@@flatplant actually anyone in a university which is pure maths,knows about her theorems in module algebra,of course not everyone knows of her ,exactly how noone knows of hardy from number theory,or jordan from measure theory,this is not a sexism argument
That says more about your insufficient formal education than it does this channel because she is very well known. Try reading books, it's all there in the Library, this pompous jackass didn't invent this information.
I actually knew about Emmy before this video. I had a wonderful math teacher in middle school, Mrs. Tent, who was one of the only math teachers who made me enjoy math. She was brilliant and even wrote our textbook. She would give school wide lectures on prominent mathematicians and those who were also not well known. And we actually paid attention because we loved her so much. She wrote a book about Emmy and Leibniz who has also been covered on this channel. Mrs. Tent passed a few years ago and this video made me think of her and how much I enjoyed her classes. I also appreciate learning more about Emmy and glad to see her getting more recognition!
@@ItsMeAnn628 BALANCED attraction and repulsion is fundamental regarding what is physics/physical experience, or there wouldn't be SPACE OR TIME. BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand. What makes gravity, ON BALANCE, a constant force is that it cannot be shielded (or blocked). Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy (in and WITH TIME) consistent WITH what is invisible AND VISIBLE SPACE in fundamental equilibrium AND BALANCE. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky ON BALANCE. SO, a photon IS at the center of WHAT IS the Sun; as this would then CLEARLY be consistent with the requirement of time AND SPACE. (Consider what is invisible AND VISIBLE SPACE in fundamental equilibrium AND BALANCE.) Carefully consider what is THE EARTH/ground ON BALANCE. Consider what is a TWO dimensional surface OR SPACE ON BALANCE !! Consider what is perpetual motion, AND consider TIME (AND time dilation) ON BALANCE. Consider what is THE EYE ON BALANCE. Notice what is the associated black “space” AND the dome AS WELL. NOW, carefully consider WHAT IS THE SUN (ON BALANCE); as TIME is NECESSARILY (AND CLEARLY) possible/potential AND actual (ON/IN BALANCE). CLEARLY, gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites ON BALANCE; as the stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky (ON BALANCE). Consider TIME (AND time dilation) ON BALANCE. E=mc2 is taken directly from F=ma. Indeed, the ultimate mathematical unification (AND UNDERSTANDING) of physics/physical experience combines, BALANCES, AND INCLUDES opposites; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is CLEARLY (AND NECESSARILY) proven to be gravity (ON/IN BALANCE); as this CLEARLY explains F=ma AND E=mc2. AGAIN, consider what is TIME (AND time dilation) ON BALANCE !! Again, carefully consider WHAT IS THE MAN who IS standing on WHAT IS THE EARTH/ground ON BALANCE !! BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental (ON BALANCE). By Frank DiMeglio
Check out the "Genius" series. There is a season on Einstein and Picasso. Extremely well made and researched and focuses more on their pereonal lives. I'd love her to get a season in this show
This is depressing on many levels. Facing sexism, then Nazi ideology... I do wonder how many bright minds have been snuffed out by their own circumstances. The history of humanity has blocked so much progress 😡😡😡
I often wonder about this, too. Not just in the 19th and 20th centuries, but all time. How many great mathematicians and scientists and doctors, etc, have been subjugated to slavery, conscription, or farming (not that farming is bad, but*) throughout the ages? * but throughout most of history, farming and transportation has not been nearly as efficient as it is now. Thus most people needed to be farmers. "Oi, Dennis, there's a lot of lovely filth down 'ere!"
I think it happens all over the world, all of the time. These days, with the internet, we see young men in Africa building machines to purify water, or young women in India creating something new. So many children could change the world if the wealthiest among us would dedicate themselves to improving things for the rest of us.
It's because of channels like this that provide us with the opportunity to learn about these forgotten people. Thank you Simon and team for putting these videos together. I look forward to them almost daily!
I know this is an old comment, but I've only just come across this video today and wanted to respond. While Emmy Noether faced challenged due to her sex in her own time, this video is a bit misleading in saying she's "forgotten." It's just that her work is much farther along in the "canon" of mathematics that most people never take a class in which you would encounter her work. But take even a bachelors degree in math and you'll become acquainted quite quickly, especially once you reach the realm of abstract algebra and topology. I'm not complaining though, more people need to know about many mathematicians who are only famous among mathematicians. Not sure if Simon has videos on these as well, but some other mathematicians tied up with WWII events in interesting ways are Felix Hausdorff and Alexander Grothendieck -- again, you'd learn their names in advanced math classes, but the general public wouldn't ever hear of them!
Black Weirdo all good brother, hey we all start somewhere man, don’t worry about the dyslexia either my guy, props for seeing it as a minor bump in the road and going for it anyways! Yes, 3,6,9 are very interesting numbers indeed. It is said amongst many, mathematics is a universal language. I tend to agree but alas, i know nothing. Have fun with it though dude and i would highly suggest exploring pi and prime numbers too 🙌🏿
Videos like this help resurrect her memory. As I recall, H.P. Lovecraft was once forgotten by most, too, yet today he is quite recognised. These forgotten figures, also, may be remembered again - providing videos like these are made & the people who watch them spread the word.
Okay, let's get things straight: H.P. Lovecraft is not even in the same dimension as Noethe. Noethe helped out Einstein, has an entire theorem in her name, and basically discovered abstract algebra. H.P. Lovecraft failed to describe any of the characters of his own making. Noethe faced head-on sexism and racism at every turn of her life. H.P. Lovecraft spewed racism and sexism at every turn of his life. People look at Noethe's work and are amazed. People look at H.P. Lovecraft's work and wonder how to make it more interesting and entertaining. The scientific community would be less without Noethe. The literary community would be unchanged without H.P. Lovecraft: Cthulu is nothing more than a novelty to spruce up otherwise uninteresting sci-fi movies; A Color Out of Space is just as vague as its villain; Re-Animator is just a pulpy take on Frankenstein.
Physics even at a lower undergraduate level is dominated by symmetry and conservation. By finding that from each one you get the other, Nother essentially took the whole subject of phsyics and wrapped it up in a bow.
Sophie Jones I commented a couple times on youtube and now I must pay the price of seeing a notification every few days about grammatical correctness, which I didn't even bother to think about. UA-cam is cancer. I've learned my lesson! Never commenting again!
She's not forgotten at all within the fields of physics/maths. The first time I heard her name was learning her famous theorem which is of fundamental importance in Lagrangian/Hamiltonian mechanics.
Right on former writer. A PhD and 40 years college teaching didn't give me the insights into women in history and education that you have given me. Thank you. You are a fine educator. Thank you for skirting the academic world of endless silencing and bringing your gift right to the people.
I'm really glad that you made this video. I know it won't get as many views as it deserves, but it's important that you made it anyway. Thanks to the team!
I think I first heard about Noether when as a CS undergrand I was learning about the ACL2 theorem prover, and how it used "noetherian reduction" to guide the proof that a recursive function eventually terminated. I had never heard of this lady until then!
Forgotten by whom? I’ve not forgotten her. I never will. Most modern mathematicians and theoretical physicists couldn’t forget her even if they wanted to.
D4md Cykey Very few mathematicians are recognisable by the general public. Most people don’t even know that “mathematicians” are a professional category.
@@qubex Indeed, if 'known to the general public' is the standard, then every mathematician ever is 'forgotten', even such luminaries as Euler, Hilbert or Gauss.
She is not forgotten, she is mentioned in any textbook on classical mechanics or abstract algebra. Her name is immortalized in Noetherian rings, modules, groups and topological spaces, she is immortalized in her mathematical work.
Dear Simon Whistler, what a beautiful love letter to Emmy Noether’s achievement. I was told about her foundational work on all of the conservation laws that we are taught in secondary school only in University. I immediately grasped the enormity of her achievement, was indignant about her obscurity, but got reassured by my professor about her position amongst theoretical physicists. That was 1979. That professor continued to get the 1999 Nobel prize for mathematically proving the unification of Electromagnetic and Weak force, work he had finished as his doctoral thesis in 1970. His name is Gerard ‘t Hooft. I love the idea of one of your audience to make this story into a scenario for a movie. I am certain you will get funded in Hollywood. Your zest in telling this story is quite compelling.
As wonderful as this video is, you entirely understate the importance of her work to Einstein's theories ... Einstein enthusiastically acknowledged that he would not have been able to advance the math without her.
Noether's Theorem is one of the foundations of modern physics as a whole - she provided the framework for discovering and understanding conservation laws on a profoundly deep level. She should be recognized as one of the greatest geniuses humanity has ever produced - right up there with Newton, Einstein, Riemann, DaVinci, Feynman, Hawking, Lovelace, Curie, Von Neumann, Boltzmann, and other household names
Physicist here. My understanding of Noether's Theorem is this: When you find a quantity that doesn't change throughout some process, it's connected to a conservation law. It ends up being very useful for calculating how things behave if you're given a set of initial conditions.
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Thanks for the early Women's History month present! An excellent bio. I have a dgree in Women's and Gender Studies. I have studied women's role in Science and Maths. I have lectured on Women's History, and have never come across her story. Great script and wonderful delivery,. Thanks, again.
I think one of the reasons I adore this Channel and all of Simon's channel so much is that it brings history that has been pushed to the wayside up to the forefront. I get to learn about so many places and people that were not taught to me in school. Because of this, my nine-year-old daughter gets to have history the way it should have been in the first place. The good, the bad and the ugly just like the Horrible Histories that we like to watch together as well.
She isn't exactly forgotten in comparison to any other mathematician, it's just that no one really cares/knows about the famous mathematicians of the 20th century. She is very well known and very highly regarded in the math community. She has tons of things named after her that we learnt in 3rd/4th year algebra courses. Noetherian rings, and topologies. Her math is very elegant.
@@robertrichard6107 Hamilton quaternions are one example. A group ring made of non abelian rings, is another. if a ring is Noetherian, then it satisfies the descending chain condition on prime ideals.
"Non-commutative" just means a * b isn't necessarily the same as b * a. Abstract algebra doesn't necessarily involve numbers. This and Emmy Noether are about all I can tell you, 30 years after I last touched it. :(
She was an impressive person. Intelligent and a relentlessly positive attitude. Who wouldn't have taken a free class from her? Who knows, maybe her willingness to teach nazis made some of those sad souls reconsider their ideology.
Sadly, probably not. Followers of fanatical movements, like cults and nazis and such, are uncannily able to separate things like that. I imagine they would say something like "Well, she's not one of THOSE jews". The only way to lead someone away from a cultlike ideology is complete seperation from it. I would consider this one of humanity's greatest flaws
I'm always thankful that I've learned about so many scientists I would likely have never heard of except for this channel. It's a pity that society idolizes entertainers and not all the scientists that have contributed so much to our civilization.
I'm about a minute in and I'm happy you know about the Navajo code talkers. One of my favorite stories in American history. I'd love for you to cover it in your own way on one of your many channels. Thumbs this up if you'd watch it. I sure as heck would.
@@mysticx0 And there are multiple videos and movies made about other videos Simon has made... So? There's always people that are still ignorant to the matter and would benefit by a Simon Whistler upload. Not to mention people like me who would watch it anyway, even though I already know about it.
It seems to happen quite often... a new discovery remains unknown, its author languishes in anonymity for decades... but the wheels of history keep turning, and the world eventually discovers the discoverer.
Thank you for giving recognition to Emma. She is a real inspiration, not only to women, but to men worldwide. I pass on these stories of brilliant women who are dedicated to science as an inspiration to my granddaughter in her study of mathematics. Keep up the good work.
Hey Simon, if you are ever looking for any Irish historical figures for St. Patrick's day then here's a few suggestions- Thomas Andrews(1873-1912) Dr James Barry or Margaret Bulkley(1789-1865) Lilian Bland(1878-1971) Brian Boru(941-1014) Robert Boyle(1627-1691) William Brown or Guillermo brown or Almirante Brown(1777-1857) Gay Byrne(1934-2019) Sir Roger Casement(1864-1916) Thomas J. Clarke(1858-1916)- Agnes Clerke(1842-1907)l Michael Collins(1890-1922)-m Saint Columba or Colum Cille(521-597)- James Connolly(1868-1916) Edward Despard(1751-1803) Anne Devlin(1780-1851) Margaretta or Margaret Eager(1863-1936) Mary Elmes(1908-2002) Robert Emmet(1778-1803) 'Silken' Thomas Fitzgerald(1513-1537) Betsy Gray(died 1798) Patrick Lafcadia Hearn or Koizumi Yakumo(1850-1904) Chaim Herzog(1918-1997) James Joyce(1882-1941) Sir Hugh Lane(1875-1915) James Larkin(1878-1947)l C.S. Lewis(1898-1963) Juan or Kuhn Mackenna(1771-1814) Terence MacSwiny(1879-1920) Annette Elizabeth Mahon(1918-2013) Constance Markievicz(1868-1927) Bernadette Devlin McAliskey(1947-present) Thomas Francis Meagher(1823-1867) Annie Moore(1874-1924) Turlough O'Carolan(1670-1738) Daniel O'Connell(1775-1843) Hugh O'Flaherty(1897-1963)l Gráinne Ní Mháilleor or Grace O'Malley(1530-1603) Hugh O'Neill(1550-1616) Peter O'Toole(1932-2013) Charles Stewart Parnell(1946-1891) Padraig or Patrick Pearse(1879-1916) Jeremiah O'Donavan Rossa(1831-1915) - Mary Ryan(1873-1961) Bobby Sands(1954-1981) Ernest Shackleton(1874-1922) George Bernard Shaw(1856-1950) Francis Sheehy-Skeffington(1878-1916) Jonathan Swift(1667-1745) Theobald Wolfe Tone(1763-1798) Eamon de Valera(1882-1975)- Ernest Walton(1903-1995) Arthur Wellesley(1769-1852) William Butler Yeats(1865-1939) And for April fools day you should do Nat Tate and for pride month you should do Judy Garland. Anyway great video, as always. Keep up the good work.
This is why we have you Simon to bring such people like Ms. Emmy Noether to our attention. People that really deserve to be remembered. Thanks Simon for a Great story.
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Sincere thanks for this video! I am one of the many who never heard of Emmy Noether until today!
solnegrolunaroja heh, Einstein himself is a self aggrandizing plagiarist more or less, of what people think he did, he did less than 5%. Of course he takes the glory for work done by everyone he can.
“If one proves the equality of two numbers a and b by showing first that ‘a is less than or equal to b’ and then ‘a is greater than or equal to b’” Emmy Noether
Even with my love of astronomy I had never heard of Emmy Noether. I asked my husband, the family math whiz, if he'd ever heard of her, and he had but wasn't that familiar with her work.
What's interesting is he may not be directly familiar with her work, but he's seen and used the results of it! She was so instrumental in modern physics and maths.
If you want another subject of a great scientist virtually unknown to the non-scientific public, do a video on Scottish physicist James Clerk Maxwell, who was the guy who finally pulled together all that was known of electricity and magnetism into one whole coherent subject, summarized in 4 equations, "Maxwell's equations"
It's fascinating how Maxwell found the connection between Ampere's Law, Coulomb's law, Gauss' Law, and was able to correct Ampere's Law in a very significant way in the process. I would love to hear a more in-depth exploration of the formulation of the Maxwell Equations!
At my (german) university we have several Professorships named after Noether, and the "Noether-Theorem" is probably the most well known theorem in my field...
This reminded me of the story of Lisa Meitner who grew up in Germany had the same setbacks as this wonderful lady, Emmy Noether. The setbacks being that she was female and Jewish and it was leading up to world war two. Even the physics lecturer believed she was nothing more than a secretary when in fact she had helped split the atom following Einstein's work. The other person being both male and very german, collected the Nobel prize for physics, while Lisa was brushed under the carpet. It does sometimes both frustrate me and make me wonder, how far we have progressed in science and technology standing on the shoulders of women that have been forgotten to History.
What a sad, sorrowful story of this wonderful and mathematically gifted lady. Your videos are superb in introducing many of us to the wonders and amazing lives of little known real heroes. Many thanks for this.
Thanks. Prof. Noether is one of my heroes, and definitely a genius! Her theorem says that whenever we see a symmetry in the universe - mathematical or scientific - it's because there's some conserved quantity: energy, charge, momentum, etc. This tells us that, as long as we're careful to be scientific about it, that symmetry & its conserved quantity point toward answers to our questions. It tells us that there really is something down there at the bottom of things; some pattern or set of patterns holding it all together. Her theorem ties in with the mathematical discipline of symmetry - called Group Theory (and some related fields). It allows both theoretical & experimental physicists - as well as mathematicians who do work in those areas - to hunt for truths based on that pattern of symmetry being connected to conservation. It's one reason those people often say that math & science, truth is beauty, and vice versa. They're connected! Every human feels this, even if they don't understand it. After all, we even find symmetrical faces more beautiful. And it's another reason I don't think math, as a language, is 'unreasonably effective.' It's the language of patterns, symmetries, & relationships! For a while now, I've been collecting data on what I call my list of V.I.W.s - Very Important Women of STEM. Emmy Noether deserves a prominent place in the history of math, science, truth, & beauty. A V.I.W. indeed. tavi.
It’s a relief to hear a biography of someone who was relatively happy throughout her life! Proof that you can be a great person and an upbeat person at the same time.
I'd argue that Jakow Trachtenberg, a Jewish mathematics Jedi who spent alot of time in a concentration camp and devised a method of near instant calculation also needs a video.
Thank you for this. How incredibly brilliant and yet tragic, the world would be a better place if we had a few more people like dear Emmy Noether amongst us. Thank you again I found it very touching.
While studying I had some math and physics classes. They are held in an old military building built by the Nazis in the late 1930s. It's now called the Emmy Noether-Campus. Thanks for sharing her story 🥲
This made me cry a bit. Emmy Noether deserved better, it breaks my heart that she was so optimistic even when her situation was dire. It makes me wonder how many other geniuses that could've made great strides in science and other areas, but weren't allowed to because they kept from doing so.
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Eyy I'm early! :D
Biographics have all the emperor’s been cover can we have a side channel of emperors from the first to the last
Can you make a video on Bal Thakre?
wow getting woke are we?
of course a whaman is the greatest mathematician ;)
Einstein basically said she’s smart for a woman.
Imagine having Einstein as a fanboy. That should be instant immortality right there.
Yup. Greatness personified.
Einstein had a wife, that did all his calculations, including the moast famous one. So it is Einsteins, Mileva Marić Einstein's.
@Terra Novei I am refering to relativity formula, it is her's not his
@Terra Novei There were two people who were genious named Einstein (Einsteins), they were married. But it is Mileva's calculations of Albert's ideas.
Agreed. She really doesn't seem like the type person who cared whether the general public hallowed her name. The fact that Einstein publicly proclaimed her genius, and later went out of his way to secure a professor position for her at one of the USA's finest universities was surely more than enough for her modest ego.
I’ve literally learned more about Important yet forgotten women in history through this channel than in all my years of formal education. It’s been enlightening and ha s changed the way I think about women’s contributions historically.
Ry Mo well, then put it in the dryer
@Ry MoIt's actually anti-brainwashing.
@@flatplant actually anyone in a university which is pure maths,knows about her theorems in module algebra,of course not everyone knows of her ,exactly how noone knows of hardy from number theory,or jordan from measure theory,this is not a sexism argument
That says more about your insufficient formal education than it does this channel because she is very well known. Try reading books, it's all there in the Library, this pompous jackass didn't invent this information.
John Smith. You seem like a pleasant person.
I actually knew about Emmy before this video. I had a wonderful math teacher in middle school, Mrs. Tent, who was one of the only math teachers who made me enjoy math. She was brilliant and even wrote our textbook. She would give school wide lectures on prominent mathematicians and those who were also not well known. And we actually paid attention because we loved her so much. She wrote a book about Emmy and Leibniz who has also been covered on this channel. Mrs. Tent passed a few years ago and this video made me think of her and how much I enjoyed her classes. I also appreciate learning more about Emmy and glad to see her getting more recognition!
It’s amazing how a good teacher can make any subject interesting
Awe what a wonderful way to immortalize Mrs. Tent! Thanks for sharing your story! 😁💜
@@ItsMeAnn628 BALANCED attraction and repulsion is fundamental regarding what is physics/physical experience, or there wouldn't be SPACE OR TIME. BALANCE AND completeness go hand in hand. What makes gravity, ON BALANCE, a constant force is that it cannot be shielded (or blocked). Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy (in and WITH TIME) consistent WITH what is invisible AND VISIBLE SPACE in fundamental equilibrium AND BALANCE. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky ON BALANCE. SO, a photon IS at the center of WHAT IS the Sun; as this would then CLEARLY be consistent with the requirement of time AND SPACE. (Consider what is invisible AND VISIBLE SPACE in fundamental equilibrium AND BALANCE.) Carefully consider what is THE EARTH/ground ON BALANCE. Consider what is a TWO dimensional surface OR SPACE ON BALANCE !! Consider what is perpetual motion, AND consider TIME (AND time dilation) ON BALANCE. Consider what is THE EYE ON BALANCE. Notice what is the associated black “space” AND the dome AS WELL. NOW, carefully consider WHAT IS THE SUN (ON BALANCE); as TIME is NECESSARILY (AND CLEARLY) possible/potential AND actual (ON/IN BALANCE). CLEARLY, gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites ON BALANCE; as the stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky (ON BALANCE). Consider TIME (AND time dilation) ON BALANCE. E=mc2 is taken directly from F=ma. Indeed, the ultimate mathematical unification (AND UNDERSTANDING) of physics/physical experience combines, BALANCES, AND INCLUDES opposites; as ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is CLEARLY (AND NECESSARILY) proven to be gravity (ON/IN BALANCE); as this CLEARLY explains F=ma AND E=mc2. AGAIN, consider what is TIME (AND time dilation) ON BALANCE !! Again, carefully consider WHAT IS THE MAN who IS standing on WHAT IS THE EARTH/ground ON BALANCE !! BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental (ON BALANCE).
By Frank DiMeglio
Sounds like a movie waiting to be made. This could be a movie more gripping than 'a beautiful mind' and no mathmetician deserves it more!
Check out the "Genius" series. There is a season on Einstein and Picasso. Extremely well made and researched and focuses more on their pereonal lives. I'd love her to get a season in this show
Miam Bialik could play her.
Or Danica McKellar who played Winnie in The Wonder Years.
ryan reynolds would portray her perfectly
Absolutely! 👍🏼
This is depressing on many levels.
Facing sexism, then Nazi ideology...
I do wonder how many bright minds have been snuffed out by their own circumstances.
The history of humanity has blocked so much progress 😡😡😡
I often wonder about this, too. Not just in the 19th and 20th centuries, but all time. How many great mathematicians and scientists and doctors, etc, have been subjugated to slavery, conscription, or farming (not that farming is bad, but*) throughout the ages?
* but throughout most of history, farming and transportation has not been nearly as efficient as it is now. Thus most people needed to be farmers.
"Oi, Dennis, there's a lot of lovely filth down 'ere!"
I think it happens all over the world, all of the time. These days, with the internet, we see young men in Africa building machines to purify water, or young women in India creating something new. So many children could change the world if the wealthiest among us would dedicate themselves to improving things for the rest of us.
Going through all that she was happy as long as she could work on math, she was amazing, died too young.
calm your tities steve
@@hebrewwolf6540 😂😂😂😂
I had never known of her before this video; however, I will now never forget her. Thank you!
I'm from Erlangen and visited the Emmy-Noether School.
Ich bin auch aus Erlangen!
Wäre eher "I attended", visitierend sind Sie nur ein Besucher. ;)
It's because of channels like this that provide us with the opportunity to learn about these forgotten people. Thank you Simon and team for putting these videos together. I look forward to them almost daily!
Simon, thank you all!!! ✨
I know this is an old comment, but I've only just come across this video today and wanted to respond.
While Emmy Noether faced challenged due to her sex in her own time, this video is a bit misleading in saying she's "forgotten." It's just that her work is much farther along in the "canon" of mathematics that most people never take a class in which you would encounter her work. But take even a bachelors degree in math and you'll become acquainted quite quickly, especially once you reach the realm of abstract algebra and topology.
I'm not complaining though, more people need to know about many mathematicians who are only famous among mathematicians. Not sure if Simon has videos on these as well, but some other mathematicians tied up with WWII events in interesting ways are Felix Hausdorff and Alexander Grothendieck -- again, you'd learn their names in advanced math classes, but the general public wouldn't ever hear of them!
If you’re regarded by Einstein himself as a genius.... then everyone needs to shut up and start taking notes! 👍🏻
Settle mate, tesla was the real genius. Einstein didn’t do anything different to alfred nobel, better off without what they found.
Black Weirdo i know. 3,6,9 dude. If you know, you know 🤟🏿
Black Weirdo close but no cigar, that would be 1,1,2,3 etc.
Black Weirdo all good brother, hey we all start somewhere man, don’t worry about the dyslexia either my guy, props for seeing it as a minor bump in the road and going for it anyways! Yes, 3,6,9 are very interesting numbers indeed. It is said amongst many, mathematics is a universal language. I tend to agree but alas, i know nothing. Have fun with it though dude and i would highly suggest exploring pi and prime numbers too 🙌🏿
Black Weirdo totally understand man, it is what it is but I’m glad you’ve found a way around it 👌🏿
Videos like this help resurrect her memory. As I recall, H.P. Lovecraft was once forgotten by most, too, yet today he is quite recognised. These forgotten figures, also, may be remembered again - providing videos like these are made & the people who watch them spread the word.
@Ricardo Cadet I'm a bit confused, do you mean to say that HP. Lovecraft was not a real person?
Let us remember HP Lovecraft was a racist and a sexist
Truth truth truth: "Emet, emet, emet." That's what this is about, folks.
@@professorsogol5824 love that chtulu tho
Okay, let's get things straight: H.P. Lovecraft is not even in the same dimension as Noethe. Noethe helped out Einstein, has an entire theorem in her name, and basically discovered abstract algebra. H.P. Lovecraft failed to describe any of the characters of his own making. Noethe faced head-on sexism and racism at every turn of her life. H.P. Lovecraft spewed racism and sexism at every turn of his life. People look at Noethe's work and are amazed. People look at H.P. Lovecraft's work and wonder how to make it more interesting and entertaining. The scientific community would be less without Noethe. The literary community would be unchanged without H.P. Lovecraft: Cthulu is nothing more than a novelty to spruce up otherwise uninteresting sci-fi movies; A Color Out of Space is just as vague as its villain; Re-Animator is just a pulpy take on Frankenstein.
Physics even at a lower undergraduate level is dominated by symmetry and conservation. By finding that from each one you get the other, Nother essentially took the whole subject of phsyics and wrapped it up in a bow.
John Doe jeebus, you edited this and still left this letter soup? Learn how to spell goddamit!
noth606 yeah whatever grammar nazi. I'll go be a productive member of society
@@MrMctastics at least spell the lady's name right. It's Noether.
Sophie Jones look at that, I missd an e. Two bad it's going to stay thr forvr.
Sophie Jones I commented a couple times on youtube and now I must pay the price of seeing a notification every few days about grammatical correctness, which I didn't even bother to think about. UA-cam is cancer. I've learned my lesson! Never commenting again!
She's not forgotten at all within the fields of physics/maths. The first time I heard her name was learning her famous theorem which is of fundamental importance in Lagrangian/Hamiltonian mechanics.
Same here.
Same here.
“Lit a fire under the arses of every maths department on the planet” Simon whistler 2020. Amazing
Beautiful work, Biographics. Emily Noether. Shall remember her for life.
I've been researching women's history for 3 years. I'm always really glad when you do a woman's story.
If you're lucky you'll still have testicles when you're done; instead of just an empty sack of beta-male rationalizations :).
@@brownicusfutiv2175 good to hear from another anti-intellectual. Good job bro, keep it up
@@brownicusfutiv2175 Lol, WTF? He was just making a research..
@@95maferisturiz don't worry, it seems he can't get a woman, and I won't be surprised that he would blame women for his toxic behavior
Right on former writer. A PhD and 40 years college teaching didn't give me the insights into women in history and education that you have given me. Thank you. You are a fine educator. Thank you for skirting the academic world of endless silencing and bringing your gift right to the people.
I'm really glad that you made this video. I know it won't get as many views as it deserves, but it's important that you made it anyway. Thanks to the team!
Being called a genius by Einstein, that's legit.
Being from Erlangen and a student at Erlangen University, thanks for covering a person so close to home!
Yay!!! Emmy at last! I've been rooting Simon for an Emmy Noether biography for the last two years... Thank you thank you...
Her story was bound to come out, one way or a Noether. 🤦🏻♂️
Ty for this .
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boss bear97 UA-cam commenters wait for moments like this. I’m happy you were here to see it 🤣
Oqsy you’re the worst 🤦🏻♂️😂
I think I first heard about Noether when as a CS undergrand I was learning about the ACL2 theorem prover, and how it used "noetherian reduction" to guide the proof that a recursive function eventually terminated. I had never heard of this lady until then!
Forgotten by whom? I’ve not forgotten her. I never will. Most modern mathematicians and theoretical physicists couldn’t forget her even if they wanted to.
The general public, i.e. the majority of people.
D4md Cykey Very few mathematicians are recognisable by the general public. Most people don’t even know that “mathematicians” are a professional category.
That’s a bit pedantic my good fellow
exactly
@@qubex Indeed, if 'known to the general public' is the standard, then every mathematician ever is 'forgotten', even such luminaries as Euler, Hilbert or Gauss.
She is not forgotten, she is mentioned in any textbook on classical mechanics or abstract algebra. Her name is immortalized in Noetherian rings, modules, groups and topological spaces, she is immortalized in her mathematical work.
I met Emmy Noether in my Calculus book. They had short blurbs on famous mathematicians in the margins. Thank you for telling me more about her.
She is of my favourites! Thank you for shining a light on her genius and delightful attitude toward life.
Thank You!!!! I too had not heard of this remarkable woman, Emmy Noether.
17:28 This fact made me choke in tears.
Excellent job on this one! You were actually able to bring a tear to my eye 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Dear Simon Whistler, what a beautiful love letter to Emmy Noether’s achievement. I was told about her foundational work on all of the conservation laws that we are taught in secondary school only in University. I immediately grasped the enormity of her achievement, was indignant about her obscurity, but got reassured by my professor about her position amongst theoretical physicists. That was 1979. That professor continued to get the 1999 Nobel prize for mathematically proving the unification of Electromagnetic and Weak force, work he had finished as his doctoral thesis in 1970. His name is Gerard ‘t Hooft. I love the idea of one of your audience to make this story into a scenario for a movie. I am certain you will get funded in Hollywood. Your zest in telling this story is quite compelling.
I do know the Emmy Noether Street in Munich. I didn’t know who she was. Now I know. Thank you 🙏😃
I am studying her work, in part, while learning supersymmetry. Great timing
Simply top-notch. Well developed and brilliantly presented. Thank you.
She is my idol! :D As a mathematician, I love none more htan her!
You have great taste. :-)
As wonderful as this video is, you entirely understate the importance of her work to Einstein's theories ... Einstein enthusiastically acknowledged that he would not have been able to advance the math without her.
I thought he made that clear, with some humility.
Noether's Theorem is one of the foundations of modern physics as a whole - she provided the framework for discovering and understanding conservation laws on a profoundly deep level. She should be recognized as one of the greatest geniuses humanity has ever produced - right up there with Newton, Einstein, Riemann, DaVinci, Feynman, Hawking, Lovelace, Curie, Von Neumann, Boltzmann, and other household names
Physicist here. My understanding of Noether's Theorem is this: When you find a quantity that doesn't change throughout some process, it's connected to a conservation law. It ends up being very useful for calculating how things behave if you're given a set of initial conditions.
Simon, I have two nobel laureates as clients. (Both in astrophysics ) And you're correct, only those who do, know. Pity indeed.
When your own father is the least famous mathematician in your life, and Hilbert, Klein , and Einstein rate you... you've made it regardless
1:40 - Chapter 1 - Nice girls don't do math
5:20 - Chapter 2 - A time for change
9:10 - Mid roll ads
10:35 - Chapter 3 - Einstein's dreams
13:45 - Chapter 4 - The new germany
16:55 - Chapter 5 - The age of horror
20:40 - Chapter 6 - Death & legacy
Thanks for the early Women's History month present!
An excellent bio. I have a dgree in Women's and Gender Studies. I have studied women's role in Science and Maths. I have lectured on Women's History, and have never come across her story.
Great script and wonderful delivery,.
Thanks, again.
Thanks Simon! I very much enjoyed learning about the brilliant lady.
I think one of the reasons I adore this Channel and all of Simon's channel so much is that it brings history that has been pushed to the wayside up to the forefront. I get to learn about so many places and people that were not taught to me in school. Because of this, my nine-year-old daughter gets to have history the way it should have been in the first place. The good, the bad and the ugly just like the Horrible Histories that we like to watch together as well.
She isn't exactly forgotten in comparison to any other mathematician, it's just that no one really cares/knows about the famous mathematicians of the 20th century. She is very well known and very highly regarded in the math community. She has tons of things named after her that we learnt in 3rd/4th year algebra courses. Noetherian rings, and topologies. Her math is very elegant.
15:57 Non-commutative algebra NOT Non-communicative algebra
Wasn't it non-abstract?
@@robertrichard6107 Hamilton quaternions are one example. A group ring made of non abelian rings, is another.
if a ring is Noetherian, then it satisfies the descending chain condition on prime ideals.
Algebras that didn’t talk your ear off. You ask them questions, and they only answer in grunts and monosyllables.
"Non-commutative" just means a * b isn't necessarily the same as b * a. Abstract algebra doesn't necessarily involve numbers. This and Emmy Noether are about all I can tell you, 30 years after I last touched it. :(
She was an impressive person. Intelligent and a relentlessly positive attitude. Who wouldn't have taken a free class from her? Who knows, maybe her willingness to teach nazis made some of those sad souls reconsider their ideology.
@Black Weirdo Very well could have.
Sadly, probably not. Followers of fanatical movements, like cults and nazis and such, are uncannily able to separate things like that. I imagine they would say something like "Well, she's not one of THOSE jews". The only way to lead someone away from a cultlike ideology is complete seperation from it. I would consider this one of humanity's greatest flaws
I met a couple of her PhD students. The glowing descriptions they made of her are a testimony to her greatness.
Good work ! More unsung heroes/stories like this please 🙏✊🙏
I'm always thankful that I've learned about so many scientists I would likely have never heard of except for this channel. It's a pity that society idolizes entertainers and not all the scientists that have contributed so much to our civilization.
This episode was awesome!!
I'm about a minute in and I'm happy you know about the Navajo code talkers. One of my favorite stories in American history. I'd love for you to cover it in your own way on one of your many channels. Thumbs this up if you'd watch it. I sure as heck would.
@@mysticx0 And there are multiple videos and movies made about other videos Simon has made... So? There's always people that are still ignorant to the matter and would benefit by a Simon Whistler upload. Not to mention people like me who would watch it anyway, even though I already know about it.
It seems to happen quite often... a new discovery remains unknown, its author languishes in anonymity for decades... but the wheels of history keep turning, and the world eventually discovers the discoverer.
Excellent video. Thank you for bringing important this genius back into the public spotlight, and for doing so in such a tender and respectful way.
Thank you for giving recognition to Emma. She is a real inspiration, not only to women, but to men worldwide. I pass on these stories of brilliant women who are dedicated to science as an inspiration to my granddaughter in her study of mathematics. Keep up the good work.
Intriguing. Thanks for bringing Emmy out of obscurity.
Hey Simon, if you are ever looking for any Irish historical figures for St. Patrick's day then here's a few suggestions-
Thomas Andrews(1873-1912)
Dr James Barry or Margaret Bulkley(1789-1865)
Lilian Bland(1878-1971)
Brian Boru(941-1014)
Robert Boyle(1627-1691)
William Brown or Guillermo brown or Almirante Brown(1777-1857)
Gay Byrne(1934-2019)
Sir Roger Casement(1864-1916)
Thomas J. Clarke(1858-1916)-
Agnes Clerke(1842-1907)l
Michael Collins(1890-1922)-m
Saint Columba or Colum Cille(521-597)-
James Connolly(1868-1916)
Edward Despard(1751-1803)
Anne Devlin(1780-1851)
Margaretta or Margaret Eager(1863-1936)
Mary Elmes(1908-2002)
Robert Emmet(1778-1803)
'Silken' Thomas Fitzgerald(1513-1537)
Betsy Gray(died 1798)
Patrick Lafcadia Hearn or Koizumi Yakumo(1850-1904)
Chaim Herzog(1918-1997)
James Joyce(1882-1941)
Sir Hugh Lane(1875-1915)
James Larkin(1878-1947)l
C.S. Lewis(1898-1963)
Juan or Kuhn Mackenna(1771-1814)
Terence MacSwiny(1879-1920)
Annette Elizabeth Mahon(1918-2013)
Constance Markievicz(1868-1927)
Bernadette Devlin McAliskey(1947-present)
Thomas Francis Meagher(1823-1867)
Annie Moore(1874-1924)
Turlough O'Carolan(1670-1738)
Daniel O'Connell(1775-1843)
Hugh O'Flaherty(1897-1963)l
Gráinne Ní Mháilleor or Grace O'Malley(1530-1603)
Hugh O'Neill(1550-1616)
Peter O'Toole(1932-2013)
Charles Stewart Parnell(1946-1891)
Padraig or Patrick Pearse(1879-1916)
Jeremiah O'Donavan Rossa(1831-1915) -
Mary Ryan(1873-1961)
Bobby Sands(1954-1981)
Ernest Shackleton(1874-1922)
George Bernard Shaw(1856-1950)
Francis Sheehy-Skeffington(1878-1916)
Jonathan Swift(1667-1745)
Theobald Wolfe Tone(1763-1798)
Eamon de Valera(1882-1975)-
Ernest Walton(1903-1995)
Arthur Wellesley(1769-1852)
William Butler Yeats(1865-1939)
And for April fools day you should do Nat Tate and for pride month you should do Judy Garland.
Anyway great video, as always. Keep up the good work.
This is why we have you Simon to bring such people like Ms. Emmy Noether to our attention. People that really deserve to be remembered. Thanks Simon for a Great story.
Sincere thanks for this video! I am one of the many who never heard of Emmy Noether until today!
*How often have important women been forgotten because men were "more important"?*
Quite often.
Very...
Too many. Including Einstein's wife.
How many men do you think have been forgotten? Probably a lot more.
solnegrolunaroja heh, Einstein himself is a self aggrandizing plagiarist more or less, of what people think he did, he did less than 5%. Of course he takes the glory for work done by everyone he can.
Nice video. Glad she got to the States and was well treated and respected by her peers.
“If one proves the equality of two numbers a and b by showing first that ‘a is less than or equal to b’ and then ‘a is greater than or equal to b’” Emmy Noether
Even with my love of astronomy I had never heard of Emmy Noether. I asked my husband, the family math whiz, if he'd ever heard of her, and he had but wasn't that familiar with her work.
What's interesting is he may not be directly familiar with her work, but he's seen and used the results of it! She was so instrumental in modern physics and maths.
Wow how much lucky u children would be to have a mom interested in astronomy
Thanks Simon for this great video about one of the great 😊
If you want another subject of a great scientist virtually unknown to the non-scientific public, do a video on Scottish physicist James Clerk Maxwell, who was the guy who finally pulled together all that was known of electricity and magnetism into one whole coherent subject, summarized in 4 equations, "Maxwell's equations"
It's fascinating how Maxwell found the connection between Ampere's Law, Coulomb's law, Gauss' Law, and was able to correct Ampere's Law in a very significant way in the process.
I would love to hear a more in-depth exploration of the formulation of the Maxwell Equations!
Once again, you have outdone yourself! Thank you, profoundly, thank you.
You've excelled yourselves, team. Certainly, one of the best Biographics yet.
Well done!
At my (german) university we have several Professorships named after Noether, and the "Noether-Theorem" is probably the most well known theorem in my field...
I heard about her in high-school and was an official part of my studies at university. She's not forgotten everywhere :)
Another great video, Simon and team. I really like maths and was very pleased with this biography. Keep up with the good work!!!
Wonderful biographics. Well done
impressive person. I've looked at some of her work and it's incomprehensible to me. but there are a few people who can appreciate and understand it.
This reminded me of the story of Lisa Meitner who grew up in Germany had the same setbacks as this wonderful lady, Emmy Noether. The setbacks being that she was female and Jewish and it was leading up to world war two. Even the physics lecturer believed she was nothing more than a secretary when in fact she had helped split the atom following Einstein's work. The other person being both male and very german, collected the Nobel prize for physics, while Lisa was brushed under the carpet.
It does sometimes both frustrate me and make me wonder, how far we have progressed in science and technology standing on the shoulders of women that have been forgotten to History.
What a sad, sorrowful story of this wonderful and mathematically gifted lady. Your videos are superb in introducing many of us to the wonders and amazing lives of little known real heroes. Many thanks for this.
I love that she was such an optimist and you handled that side of her with such appeal (loss of words...).
Special thanks for this one!
Inspiring and sad at the same time!!!!
Thanks. Prof. Noether is one of my heroes, and definitely a genius! Her theorem says that whenever we see a symmetry in the universe - mathematical or scientific - it's because there's some conserved quantity: energy, charge, momentum, etc. This tells us that, as long as we're careful to be scientific about it, that symmetry & its conserved quantity point toward answers to our questions. It tells us that there really is something down there at the bottom of things; some pattern or set of patterns holding it all together. Her theorem ties in with the mathematical discipline of symmetry - called Group Theory (and some related fields). It allows both theoretical & experimental physicists - as well as mathematicians who do work in those areas - to hunt for truths based on that pattern of symmetry being connected to conservation. It's one reason those people often say that math & science, truth is beauty, and vice versa. They're connected! Every human feels this, even if they don't understand it. After all, we even find symmetrical faces more beautiful. And it's another reason I don't think math, as a language, is 'unreasonably effective.' It's the language of patterns, symmetries, & relationships! For a while now, I've been collecting data on what I call my list of V.I.W.s - Very Important Women of STEM. Emmy Noether deserves a prominent place in the history of math, science, truth, & beauty. A V.I.W. indeed. tavi.
Rest in piece you beautiful genius
It’s a relief to hear a biography of someone who was relatively happy throughout her life! Proof that you can be a great person and an upbeat person at the same time.
I'd argue that Jakow Trachtenberg, a Jewish mathematics Jedi who spent alot of time in a concentration camp and devised a method of near instant calculation also needs a video.
Simon I love your videos. I only found them lately and am hooked.
A movie *must* be made of this woman.
Im so glad to have learned about her.
Great video. Sad that I'd never heard of her. Thank you! Could you please do a video on Harriet Tubman?
Marie Curie of course everyone has heard of. But what about Lise Meitner, Cecilia Payne, Annie Jump Cannon, Henrietta Swan Levitt ...
Thank you for these wonderful videos. They saved my sanity during this covid lockdown.
Thank you for this video.
As always Simon.. great video
Great video! Thank you
Thank you for this. How incredibly brilliant and yet tragic, the world would be a better place if we had a few more people like dear Emmy Noether amongst us. Thank you again I found it very touching.
thank you for this!!
While studying I had some math and physics classes. They are held in an old military building built by the Nazis in the late 1930s. It's now called the Emmy Noether-Campus. Thanks for sharing her story 🥲
Brilliant narration!
Great job Biographics again.
Beautifully told as always, such a moving story, thanks Simon.
This was awesome!!!! Thank You!
Great video about a genuinely great individual. Thank you for sharing her life & accomplishments to a greater audience. 🙏
Staggering! Never heard of her. Thank you so much.
This made me cry a bit. Emmy Noether deserved better, it breaks my heart that she was so optimistic even when her situation was dire. It makes me wonder how many other geniuses that could've made great strides in science and other areas, but weren't allowed to because they kept from doing so.
“It really was a disadvantage to be a woman back then”
Glad we’re all on the same page.
An insufferable but very positive and beautiful soul , an outgoing math Genius, who faced sexism, racism and an untimely demise in cancer.
Recent breakthroughs point to her work. She will go down as the greatest.