Can a person with a personality disorder become a counselor?
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- This video answers the question: Can a person with a personality disorder become a counselor? There are 10 personality disorders listed in the diagnostic and statistical manual: paranoid, schizoid, schizotypal, antisocial, borderline, narcissistic, histrionic, avoidant, dependent, and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder. There is some controversy in the mental health treatment community about whether individuals with one or more of these disorders are well-suited to be mental health counselors.
The idea of "personality perfectionism" is certainly an issue these days. Thanks for a balanced analysis of this topic.
That really is something worth of thought. More discussion on this would be needed in general.
We can't all be like me hahaaahahahaahaa
My current therapist (I’ve tried three-four before finding her) has BPD traits, OCD, a past of alcoholism and eating disorders (and probably more that I don’t know about) and she uses her experiences to be a better therapist. I suffer from a lot of what she went through, so she gets it. I’m not afraid of being abandoned by her. She is kind, yet calls me out on my bullshit. She is understanding because she’s both been through and been the catalyst for harm. I’m incredibly blessed.
I think there is a “right” therapist(s) for everyone out there and that personality variation is vital - just like in finding a romantic partner. My previous therapists were very stereotypical and by-the-book and probably are amazing for their current clients. Unfortunately, it was too easy for me to manipulate them (something I don’t always know I’m doing) and I was never convinced that I could trust them enough to let my walls down. You just have to keep hunting until you find your puzzle piece! It’s been three years with my current therapist: my skin-picking/E.D. are better than they’ve ever been and I finally had the courage to end a 7-year, toxic relationship, woohoo!
I’m so grateful for you guys, Dr. Grande; thanks for sticking it out for your clients.
Also, neither here nor there, but I was curious about the psychology behind “tanning addictions”? I saw a story on it today and I wondered if you had any insight. Perhaps it could be a future video!
Many thanks!
One time I had a counselor who clearly had marital issues because she shared with me she often had fantasies on ways she would kill her husband and when I stopped seeing her she called and went on a rage about how rude it was to leave her practice. And this one didn't have a personality disorder until I diagnosed her in my mind as CRAZY.
What about the counselors who talk about themselves excessively? My mother had one like that. They aren't that uncommon, either.
I think Dr Grande touched on that subject within another video. He said it was unacceptable for a councillor to speak about himself/herself or their personal problems to a client.
I’m in my masters for counseling. This isn’t suppose to happen. But of course just like any profession some probably went in for other reasons and not to help people.
Benefit of mentally ill
I had a psychiatrist like that
@Laura Brown I think there is a difference between a counselor who talks about themselves out of context or in inappropriate situations or discussions, or a counselor who introduces or talks about themselves after the client has built a better relation with them. Some of them see someone for a long time.
I, for one, would require extensive periods of time with a therapist as I don‘t trust anyone worth shit.
Now, I generally try to avoid certain topics I would avoid, such as religion and politics. But if the subject happened to blow that direction and they informed me that they were, say, Catholic, I‘m not going to file a complaint against them.
I think what the OP is describing is narcissism and excessive talk of self, instead of what the client is there for - psychotherapy and treatment.
I personally have met physiatrists who exhibited low empathy
They're a bunch of psychos. My favorite experience was one that was so drugged up she couldn't open her eyes or hold her head up for the entire appointment, but she did speak.
They should at least try and fake it, lol.
Cynthia Allen you don’t need to know anything about psychology to be a physiatrist just prescribe and use the dsm if you really feel like it. One guy just looked at me before and said I was depressed even tho I had a lot of trauma (no shit I was depressed) and he yelled at me when I got off the pills
Anonymous Anomaly yup they use the pills themselves to much
@@Mijn24 Incompetent and arrogant.
I love what you said at the end of the video about personality diversity. It takes all kinds!! I am not a counselor, but I work in the mental health field and have a bachelors in social work, and due to stigma within the field, I don’t want to put my diagnoses out there on a UA-cam comment, but I do have my own mental health journey as well as recovery from substance. It is lifelong and something that I am very committed to managing. I’ve found that therapy is key along with recovery program, as well as utilizing supervision and colleague support and feedback, and there have been times when I’ve stepped away from work for a few months to get myself back on track. If a “neurotypical” clinician loses a family member for example or some other stressful life event, they might need to step away and/or seek out extra support to maintain competency within their job, so those of us with mental illness just need to make sure we are constantly doing that, not just when stressful life events happen. Making sure our own “stuff” isn’t negatively impacting our clients is top priority. I appreciate this objective look, Dr. Grande. I was nervous when I clicked on the video, but I think you covered this very well. Also, I will add that although there are challenges and pitfalls to having mental disorders and working in mental health, there are also some really beautiful positives, too.
You'd be surprised how much I look forward to your intellectually stimulating videos, Dr. Grande. Love your lucidity and candor.
Thank you for the video! I always appreciate your insight. I am currently pursuing a degree in Clinical Social Work and I was diagnosed with Avoidant Personality Disorder in 2015. I was already pursuing a career in social work before I was diagnosed with AvPD. This is something that I even ask myself sometimes, however I have been utilizing therapy over the years and overall have been doing fairly well in my recovery. I consider myself to be self-aware and always seek feedback during supervision. It's interesting because in my case, being with people in this capacity (helping others, providing emotional support) has been beneficial in my recovery. I used to be extremely isolated, but I found my purpose when I realized what joy it brought to my life to be of service to others in need.
P.S. I believe every counselor/mental health professional should have a therapist of their own whether they have diagnosis or not, because this profession requires a lot emotional work that can be mentally taxing on a person. It also provides more insight into our own practice methods.
Watching this video was so much fun! I loved when you were explaining the different personality disorder traits in this scenario. I agree with you, I'm in favor of personality diversity (and diversity in general), as long as it doesn't put at risk anyone's life or safety.
Fun? Informative, yes, but fun? I need a strong cup of coffee whenever I watch him. Good stuff, but his delivery is verbal suboxone.
I'm working towards becoming a counselling psychologist (therapist). I've mostly recovered from BPD with occasional relapses that only last no longer than a day. But, I know how to cope with those relapses, use my DBT skills and distract myself with things I love to do - read psychology journal articles, dance, sort beads, make art and jewellery and other things. I do acknowledge that I've had boundary issues... Mostly because I didn't know what boundaries were. I never learned that I, or others, could have them as my mum would invade my privacy whenever she wanted. Even as an adult living in her home, she'd go into my room every morning (or if she got up in the middle of the night for some reason) to watch me sleep. After I moved out, I really began to flourish in terms of my boundary setting and being able to uphold other people's boundaries. I do sometimes still struggle, but it's getting better over time.
The only symptoms I have are intense emotions (but I can regulate them and usually use those strong emotions for creating pieces of art or creative writing, they really influence my creativity) and binge eating, which is usually a response to stress or strong anxiety.
I recognise that I've issues that I need to work on in terms of trauma and recognise that there's a lot of work on improving myself to become the best therapist I can be for my future clients. I'm committed to help myself so that I can help others. The main reason for wanting to become a psychologist is wanting to inspire client's wellbeing while avoiding mistakes my therapists have made over the years (glaring mistakes at that). I want to help others by being compassionate, empathetic, empowering and firm all at the same time and help them grow as individuals. Research is also important to me, so I would also like to be involved in research of new psychological interventions and changing the mental health system, even if it is by a little. If even a small change that leads to more people that can be helped or can be helped in a new or innovative way is something I strive to achieve.
NataliaEnchantix - well done for transforming your abusive past into becoming a helper of others. I’m a retired mental health nurse but I’ve never had a problem with anyone who has or had mental health difficulties becoming a mental health practitioner. In my opinion all it takes to make that step from becoming patient to helper is insight into one’s own mind and the willingness to work on one’s self whilst remaining committed to helping others. For myself I’m a recovered codependent - I was fully aware of my main mental health weakness which was that I had an over inflated sense of responsibility for others feelings. I was completely honest about this in clinical supervision and my supervisors helped me to address this issue. I was very proud of myself when I received positive feedback from several colleagues on my boundaries.
You go for it girl - you’ll make an amazing counsellor 👏👏👏
@@ruthjones5557
Thank you! I'm really glad to see how much you've grown and how work you've done for those with mental health issues. I think my primary weakness would be similar in that I'd feel responsible for their happiness. I'd feel like I need to take up the mantle and ensure that things are really okay before they leave a session.
Thanks Dr Grande, for making it easy to understand for us non counsellor/psychologists.
I believe it's a double edged sword. On one hand, if you treat those with similar disorders to your own, you have first hand knowledge & are able to genuinely assist somebody else with deeper insight & empathy. On the other, you'd run the risk of projecting your personal experiences & perhaps conclusions onto another. Where's the line? Thank you for the video!
👍🏻 wonderfully said Dr. Grande. I think it says something good about you, that you struggled some in making this video. 😊 I also know a few people in the mental health field who have diagnosis’s themselves, and doing well as long as they take care of themselves. Enjoyed this one as every one you post. Thanks 🙏 💗
Back in blue 😉 great video Dr. Grande. You always explain your topics perfectly.
The best Counselor's are ones who have been there and done that.
Empathy is a hard trait to aquire genuinely.
True, my 1st therapist was helpful in dragging out my past with being emotional herself, but it caused me to split a lot since she would say things reminding me of my BPD mother and would mirror my reactions it just got out of hand and I had to quit. My current DBT therapist is very zen and knows how to push me without triggering me, quite amazing.
Love your comments on personality perfectionism and diversity. There is often a sense of intolerance of personality difference in our society, especially in the media and in education.
I think Cluster C might have the best chance of being an effective counselor, but obviously they would need to try and manage their symptoms or improve them first. I think the other two would be a lot more difficult.
Thanks for the third attempt. Its a charm.
I noticed the qualifications for a drug counselor include being a recovered addict.
Have you done a video on the 12 step program? A spiritual solution to a spiritual problem?
Seems psychiatry did not endorse the concept of a lack of will, being powerless over a substance, etc., the diagnosis was delusional thinking. Yet psychology seems to be onboard, meetings as an adjunct to counseling. For decades courts were ordering people with convictions for DWI, into these 'treatments/meetings' as conditions of sentencing. Although that practice has been curtailed.
The term 'addiction' is not employed today by either field. Rather the diagnosis is substance disorder. Is hypnotism a valid/effective treatment option for smoking cessation or eating disorders? How about magic mushrooms? Curious about your thoughts.
I can imagine it's not easy to do a video about this topic. I'm glad you decided a third time to upload one. It's worth listening and thinking about it. Well done 👍 I always like to read the comments too. Thank you Dr. Grande, have a good week 😃
Not only can they become a counselor. They do and are. And of course. Supervision is often needed to be tighter and I am not sure they should hang out their own shingle if there has been a clear pattern of inability to hold boundaries and not use clients to meet their own needs.
Loved this video and I have thoughts. Even though I was once very tempted to tell a certain person, upon telling me he was going to pursue counseling, "You know you're going to have to talk about someone other than yourself, right?" (which I still consider a somewhat missed opportunity but that's a story for another day)....I think it's important to consider that the way someone is in their day to day life isn't necessarily how they're going to be in the counseling room.
Having just been through two years of training, I've gotten to witness firsthand, in myself and others, that honing your counseling skills automatically involves: work on yourself (my program requires us to be in therapy), work in supervision, experiential groups and case management groups, all in the name of formulating that counselor role which inherently involves boundaries. Boundaries don't only apply to the therapist-and-client; they apply to us and the different parts of ourselves. Across the board, no matter what the counselor is dealing with or diagnosed as, it is important that regular self check-ins occur so the we are able to keep those boundaries, hence continuing to make our treatment toward the client our primary focus.
So I don't know if the issue is the diagnosis so much as how well we manage the diagnosis and how secure our personal boundaries are. Counseling involves a skill set; one where, if practiced responsibly, does not allow any room for the counselor to come first. By all means, they could come first before and after the session but the very nature of counseling should entail that these issues are not brought into the room. If they can't manage that, then no they aren't ready now, but maybe will be later.
I can even speak to my own experience here. I struggle with depression but it is well-managed (straying from the personality thing but just to put it out there). Last term, I was having a difficult time which triggered my depression, but I was at a place where I felt strong enough to completely put it aside while seeing clients and go straight back to seeking support afterward. And on a spectrum, even though I don't have a personality disorder, I certainly have personality traits that could be therapy-interfering if I didn't check myself! So....bit of a ramble of an answer there, but very interesting topic, and thanks for creating a space in which people can voice their opinions!!
This video gives a great ‘one stop’ summary of personality types.Very interesting. Thank you again Dr Grande.
Great topic. I know a psychiatrist that have npd... not a good combo for the pacients.
Thank you Dr. Grande
I highly respect your insight
You put it in such a way, easy to swallow
Once my father refused, that I volunteer because he thought I was too emotional.
I got furious but the way you put it, is much more acceptable.
I kind of know now what the obstacles and challenges are.
I lived through them.
I love how you pointed out to diversity.
Great insight!
Helping others adds so much meaning to ones suffering.
It makes sense of all we went through.
Maybe social work is a better place to be in.
The people that offered me help were people with personality disorders.
I could relate more to them.
They understood the struggle.
But a professional counselor adds more emotional stability.
You feel, they are more accountable because they don't get carried away easily.
Excellent presentation on this matter, very well thought out.
It would be interesting to here what the lack of insight is for the different personality disorders.
Great vid Doc! 😊
Thank you so much, Dr. Grande! I agree that diversity is necessary and a far more honest representation of "the human condition." 🐯
Enjoyed watching very much. Thanks !
I’d love to see a video on “Targeted Individuals.”
I think everybody has personality disorders meaning that everyone has personality issues (I think), it's just some more than others and some have them more hidden and others more obvious. It seems to me that everything is on a spectrum and there are various degrees of dysfunction. I personally have observed therapists conducting group therapy and making it all about themselves or monopolizing the group for attention. It is often said that those who study psychology it is often because they are seeking inner-healing themselves. Dr. Margaret Paul whom I consider an awesome writer on inner-child work, stated she had very strict and unaffectionate parents. I think that the ability to take feedback is one that probably applies to just about everybody. I appreciate your always compassionate disposition towards people with emotional and psychological issues and your ability to stay objective at the same time.
Thank you so much for this video, especially the conclusion part of it. As a trainee psychologist with borderline pd I always thought we are a dead end, because of stigma, problematic treatment of counselors as well as conservative stance of educators. Thank you so much, hope is a very enforcing factor for people with personality disorders and it's great to feel included and representable as part of a whole or a multicoloured mosaic.
I dunno. The counselor would really need to have an intimate understanding of their own tendencies. That's hard enough for people to do in general. Although such a person might make for a superior counselor.
Before even watching the video I would say no. Looking forward to seeing your thoughts on this.
Presently I've been diagnosed with persistent depressive disorder (otherwise known as dysthymia or chronic depression) and generalized anxiety disorder. I don't believe either of these are explicit barriers to the profession, but on occasion I feel I may be closer to schizoid due to symptoms and a prevalent family history of psychotic mental illness. It's definitely difficult for me to be invested in most conversations, especially mundane ones, although I seem to experience enjoyment vicariously if others are pleased, and/or receiving help. My largest concern is that I'm not expressive enough (poor quality speech, i.e., lack of intonation and vocal range) with my flattened affectivity, as demonstrating empathy and having it seem sincere is more challenging with these weaknesses.
This was a very nuanced video!
Thank you Dr Grande. My mother once, in all seriousness, told me she was training to be a councillor. She was a violent psychopath with a proclivity for domestic weaponry. She had been told that she would need to enter counselling for herself which she, of course, thought was totally unnecessary. Makes me smile now.
Why isn't it mandatory that counselors, etc., attend counseling?
It should be, patients should be better protected from bad therapists.
Psychoanalysts have to, and there is a ton of supervision for the rest until they prove themselves. Unless you live in my own Texas, where the State is "trying" to fix a few problems it's become aware of as of this legislative session.
Flawedplan Lifecouch , I just know that I wasn’t able to find help in California when I complained about a therapist’s callous and aggressive behavior because I didn’t have recordings or emails to prove it.
@@jenniferdanz691 They needed to at least question the therapist.
I know a number of therapists and social workers and it's more the norm than the exception that they see a therapist. And some grad schools require therapy for students in counseling programs.
Very insightful!
Excellent subject, Dr Grande. Probably it would depend on the disorder as you say. Psychology interests me so much but, and it’s a big but - I’d never make a good councillor because I think others traumas could trigger my own, and that’s where impartiality would become impossible. I’d be all emotional for their suffering thinking I knew exactly how they felt, and that to me would be very wrong. The category C disorders would possibly be ok, but i can’t imagine being treated by someone with bipolar or schizophrenia etc. I’ve nothing against a soul with a mental health issue, but there’s a line that needs to be drawn when it comes to thinking of a career in mental health. That would apply to some so-called normal people, too. What is normal anyway? Yes, diversity any day! Thank you and have a lovely day 🥰
Going through a Master's program in counseling at a Cal state university we had 2 of a class of 11 that were grossly inappropriate for counseling yet very "booksmart." One exhibited many signs of cluster B traits and was also fairly paranoid. It created a very untrusting atmosphere within the program and each day was going to be about her dominating each class with her specific perspectives.
What got to me was the faculty's unwillingness to focus either of their very disruptive behaviors. There was one professor who was in her last retirement semester and was the ONLY person to address the huge, raging elephant and called out one of the students for her constant domination. Keep in mind, professors were more than aware of how disruptive she was and some acknowledged the exasperated state us students were experiencing.
When the other one was working in an on-campus counseling facility they would have weekly meetings to discuss specific cases. 100% of the time this person would cry because she had fallen in love with the person she was counseling. Not the same person each week but whomever she was counseling as it was short-term only. She did this for 6 months solid before the supervisor had decided to pull her off of cases because it could have impacted the supervisor's license should something go wrong. I wanted to know how it took so long, and aside for care of the clients, how didn't they care enough about this woman thinking she could go out into the world and counsel others with such huge boundary issues. It was also in the last 2 months they suspected she had a personality disorder, which was fairly obvious after a month in the program with her.
Compassion needs to present in counseling and so does accountablilty.
Well informative video!!! 🌹
I have a question. Why do we procrastinate? How does that relate to personality?
merdelune9 avoidant perhaps?
ava maria makes sense 🤔
Hello Dr Grande , Thank you so much for your channel which sadly i just discovered , i'm still working on the SPSS videos and i was wondering can you make another one where you give us any tips about how to write out the results from the tests in the " Results" section of the thesis !!!
I can't seem to find any videos about that , if there is , Would you mind sharing its link ?
Thanks again for everything, You have been very helpful
This was so incredibly good that it should be part of CACREP's frequently asked questions. Well done.
I'd like you to consider getting some trendier glasses.
Thank you - I thought my glasses were trendy🙂
@@DrGrande No. Ask your students what the trendy glasses are. I expect new glasses for when you hit 100k.
I talked to the psychiatrists and psychologists who treated me over the years about my own suitability about going into counseling and I was a major headcase at the time. I was also off the charts in terms of empathy and insight, given this was my family role from before I could talk, which is the case for a lotta kids raised in shitty dysfunctional abusive homes with substance abusers running the circus. And they'd tell me this, the shrinks, that outside of professional circles my stores of empathy and insight was rarely encountered, especially for someone who is so messed up. People like me can sit with a lot of pain. And we become good at untangling other people's knots at a very young age.
So I figured I'd become a therapist too.
I got the green light from a renowned psychologist who spent two days doing a neuropsych evaluation (eight hours at $4,000) who told me not to worry about the NOS Cluster B personality disorder he diagnosed, but to just keep working in therapy and the PD will take care of itself. He said many counselors have personality disorders and there's no reason I can't be a counselor if that's the path I want to take. I gave it a shot in college but lo and behold discovered I'm probably too far gone to do this and looked into a theater major instead. I do volunteer work and they treat volunteers like rock stars at mental health agencies, so no regrets.
But I believe in the wounded healer concept, there are times change comes from eccentric misfit therapists who connect with their clients in ways no one else can. I am not at all convinced "personality disordered" is a thing these people are. Or not.
Do one on Robert Durst! They announced they’re reopening his case because of The Jinx miniseries
I think Durst is boring. He's just a wealthy, unattractive psycho.
I thought this was a great video. I can understand why it would be a very difficult subject matter to cover.
Please make a video about Personality Disorders when it combined with anxiety or depression. Does the symptoms of depression and anxiety remain the same? Especially for OCPD and PPD. Please talk about it.
Life is filled with ambiguities. Being aware of interpersonal and social blindspots is essential. I think it is fine, but I think the counselor must find a good fit with a supervisor and use this relationship to distinguish the differences between personal psychotherapy and clinical supervision. I also worry about over-identification with clients' issues and dependency on treatment relationships for personal validation. Then again, it does not take a personality disorder to experience countertransference. Supervision, supervision, and supervision (or a clinicians' lack thereof) concerns me most.
What about with cluster B, anti social personality disorder/clinical psycopathy? It would make for a great movie/book once diagnosed!
You address personality disorders. What about mood disorders (obviously stabilized) like Bipolar Disorder?
It's still the same concept. As long as you're in treatment and able to function, you can be a counselor.
@@nicorizzo5402 I agree, I was just wondering why the focus was on personality vs mood disorders.
Just curious.
Nicolette James Also, And I don’t mean to sound snooty or judge mental when I say this - but there is a vast difference between mood disorders and personality disorders. I’m not saying one or the other is more or less problematic but they are definitely different.
@@TheBipolarOg I know, I have both.
Nicolette James I have bipolar one with psychotic features and a virtual smorgasbord of comorbid disorders. As I mentioned, I absolutely wouldn’t want this taken the wrong way, I was just curious why the focus was on personality versus mood.
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Dr. Todd Grande : Is being "Shallow" a personality disorder?
An old college friend made counseling her life's career after majoring in psychology and social work but had never been able to get a private practice going or succeed at other counseling-related jobs. When we reconnected years after college she was very controlling and so little empathy that I didn't like talking to her. She'd made a mess of both kids and her husband told me that she'd never been able to sustain friendships. Ultimately I discovered that she's bipolar.
I saw an oxygen, snapped, where a lady who was a psychopath was also an LCSW. She blackmailed a client into finding a hitman to kill the counselor’s husband. Luckily the client told the police but it made me wonder how many psychopaths were counselors.
Yup, that's exactly why people with psychological issues should NOT go into the mental health field.
Hey doctor Grande, do you think someone with ASPD could be a good psychiatrist?
Good effort
"Can" they? Ummm... they do it all the time. I would even argue there is a selection bias at work there.
Is it true that most people working in the mental health field have a mental health disorder?
Pretty sure I knew a Psychiatrist with extreme narcissism. He put down women a lot. He thought a nurse I knew should put her parents in a nursing home to take care of him instead. He thought she should feel honored to discard her blood related family to care for him. She didn’t feel honored at the suggestion at all.
I’m in my masters’s for counseling and I’ll just say there are some questionable people in my classes.... lol. But regardless, a counselor isn’t suppose to put their own beliefs/countertransference on the client so if they do have a personality disorder they are trained to seek help and deal with their issues themselves BEFORE becoming a counselor. Of course, by reading some of the comments, this probably doesn’t happen and then a client will realize it’s not a match and get referred out or find another therapist.
I just can't see how anyone with a personality disorder can counsel people. It would be dangerous. I do agree with your video though.
My ex had BPD with NPD traits and wanted to become a life coach. Frankly I don't think she had the emotional stability to really be present and empathetic to others.
I'm not schizoid, but I do prefer to be by myself. People exhaust me. I can only endure them for short periods of time, and yet it's amazing just how many times people come to me for answers to their problems. I wonder what _that's_ all about. Maybe my studies. But I think it's always been that way.
To answer the question posed; yes, I think certain people with mental illnesses may even be better at helping since they have firsthand experience. Of course, it would have to be limited counseling.
You look proper handsome in blue again today, Dr Grande. I don't wish to make you uncomfortable but it really is your colour. 😊 Thank you! 🌹👍
Is it ok/appropriate to ask a therapist on 1st session what kind of personality disorder s/he have?
And is s/he obligated to answer?
"An age of personality perfectionism" -- fascinating, but perhaps not fully accurate? To explain, I think a lot of people feel there's an equal and contradictory force toward exceptionalism, literally baked into our economic model, that makes it difficult to just be normal. Or, put differently, we are required to have "personality perfectionism" in the sense of having to be able to perfectly manage our own affairs and pull ourselves up from the bootstraps (in MBTI terms, for what it's worth and if you're familiar with it, we are all required to be ENTJs or ESTJs). I wonder, though, to what extent politician orientation also might influence this perception. Would someone generally on the Right or libertarian see what you see (I have the impression from your videos that you are center-Right), while someone on the Left would see what I see (I'm center-Left). With all that said, I love your videos and I would really love it if you expanded on your perception of an "age of personality perfectionism" in one of them!
Can you do a video on cptsd vs ptsd?
I believe there already is one but I could be wrong.
What about someone with a dissociative disorder ?
There’s a famous doctor with bipolar working as a researcher and writer about bipolar disorder.
actualy the question is: is it good to have ppl who are personaly invested
on one hand they like there job and they can get a lot of sadisfaction from helping ppl
on the other hand they can get overinvested burnout atracktion to patrience
look at it like a ruce
if they dont feel like talking to the patience they can get more work done
but patience perahaps want social interaction
(imho) The brain ... and mental health... where do you find yourself thinking about these two philosophies and science?
I was told I had traits of but not the disorder.
What is the difference between schizophrenia and schizophrenic personality disorder?
Schizotypal PD doesn’t have hallucinations or delusions; rather, symptoms manifest as unusual beliefs and thought patterns that are considered “odd” by societal standards. It IS on the spectrum of schizophrenia, though.
That would have to be mixed results at best.
If they go through treatment, yes.
I bet it was a relief to get this out of the way! You should celebrate,. Grab your spork and eat some ice cream,,! 😋😀
Dr. Grande,
Is there an email address that we can use to send you questions, etc.? I had a question I was really wanting to ask you, and it's something a little more lengthy than comment material. Feel free to message me on here with an email address, or any other way you prefer to communicate. Thanks so much!
Kathleen
@@chocolatewheelchair it's for Dr. Grande specifically, as I'm considering starting a UA-cam channel, mostly about BPD, but I may touch on other topics from time to time. And I want to do it right and avoid any sensationalism or false information, or issues like other channels like the Rewired Soul etc. have exhibited.
@@chocolatewheelchair BPD = borderline personality disorder. However, I am bipolar as well. But BPD is the illness I know the most about through my experience. I just don't want to makes bunch of false claims. Yes itll be my own experience but some factually based stuff that I can share my experience off of.
You're God's gift to humanity! I'm serious.
Would Sam Vaknin make a good counselor?
Good question. I think he might be a bit too undisciplined and unable to maintain focus on a client who bored or tired him out.
Sam V has never gone through treatment therefore the answer would be no. Be careful.
I had to go to a counselor type person because of insurance requirements years ago the psychologist was blind so he had a seeing eye dog sitting there, (I have a HUGE fear of dogs)..... After about 20 minutes the doctor started picking his nose and eating his boogers I got up and left and never went back.
THEY OFTEN DO
My ex is the community’s most respected counselor. I am not an expert by any means but with all the research I have devoted to the last half year, I am convinced she is the classic example of a vulnerable narcissist.
Many of them do have various disorders
yes and they do
is it healthy...problebe not
personaly delth with a borderline shrink doing my intake
Great video. You presented your views with sensitivity.
I am wondering if you could do a video with your views about psychics. Since they claim to
see and hear and even feel spirits, wouldn't they actually have schizophrenia?
I nearly fell off my chair when I read this title, I vote, yes, yes, YES! Ha Ha Ha.
everyone I've ever met with pretty severe BPD says they wanna be a therapist and I'm over here like.......... yeah..................................................
LOL! It's a lover's question.
I agree that many people go into the psychiatric profession to cure their own dysfunctions and that is exactly why they should NOT become counselors! People with personality disorders will certainly do more harm than good. How can a person, who is not mentally healthy themselves, give effective and sound advice on mental health when their own issues prevent them from seeing things clearly? Well, it should be obvious that they can't and to say otherwise makes absolutely no sense.
To be funny: Consider Hannibal Lecter. If the movies are accurate, he would have the best insight!
Walter Archibald lol !!!!
Well, it depends on the sample size… he has a wide variety of tastes.
So, should he then become a therapist? I think not!
I consider my psychologist one of the most insane people I've ever met. Why can she exist in that position? And why do I know she can't produce a coherent thought? When I walked into her office I presented a complex case. With many parties involved. Court cases and settlements. I had just been waging war against former employers. Besides the paper trail, I had concrete anecdotes about the lack of boundaries. I'm talking about criminal behaviour. I think my psychologist only had clients who had experiences in a more subjective context. Then she can spin a plausible narrative. But my formal framework constrains her. Parameters outside of her limited scope. Or: she's no longer in control. And under this pressure she broke. Though she did perception management in the direction of me and her colleagues, deluded misrepresentations, her notes revealed utter chaos. Perfectly incapable of having any scope on functional language. The equivalent is painting shit on the walls with her hands. People underestimate what a disaster a cluster B is and how this is veiled. I thought of her as useless, two sessions in. Because of their perception management, one can only figure out what's really going on, when up to the neck in quicksand.
This channel always makes me think of coffee mmmm
I'm quite sure there are a lot of counselors with PD's. I have no problem with that because we are all imperfect in some way, but, when the MH professional with a PD affects the patients treatment. I suppose we all need to recognize when treatment is detrimental and look for another professional for help. Its quite scary to think if a MH professional treating someone could be a "dangerous" Cluster B.
I am astounded by many of the comments that support the idea that dysfunctional counselors can be an asset to the profession. This is ridiculous. Two dysfunctional people - one being the client and the other being the counselor - can not create a positive and functional outcome. (It's like two wrongs trying to make a right). This should be obvious to anyone with the ability to think rationally. Also, why would anyone want to go to a dysfunctional counselor for advice in the first place. If you were going to a surgeon wouldn't you want the one that had the best aptitude in his /her field so that a successful outcome was more likely?
One can have the diagnosis but managing the condition through treatment. A unqualified surgeon cannot improve by taking medication of engaging in a DBT programme, or by any means other than through his professional skills. So your metaphor doesn't entirely make sense. Further, lived experience is what I would consider an asset to the field. Often, those without none go into the sector for positions of power.
Hi Dr Grande. Was wondering if you could make a video on whether on or not you think Taylor Swift could have a personality disorder?
I've always thought she was a mix of Borderline/Histrionic going by her long history of unstable relationship patterns/writing songs all the time about her exs while constantly playing the victim throughout her whole career.
Would love to know your thoughts on this, thanks
Regards, Bjorn.
Had psychiatrist called Pieter dries, he was awefull and a narcissist.
I have 2 family members who are into "helping" others...one is a psychologist who works with chronically mentally ill, the other works in social services...BOTH are NUT JOBS
Haha why is this thumbnail pic more shady than other ones? lol
Saying that the psychiatric profession should represent every type of personality that exists in society is a bit like saying that our police force should be packed with every type of criminal in its ranks in order to be a fair representation of society and to provide a wonderful service. You could follow that by saying that we should deliberately employ sinful priests, embezzling bankers and paedophile teachers.
Every profession, particularly one so well-paid, should have the highest standards. Mentally unbalanced and dangerous people shouldn't be tasked with one of the most delicate jobs of all. We, the consumers, should get the most sympathetic, insightful, intelligent people that society has to offer, not the damaged, unbalanced, self-involved dregs.
When I was 15, I once went to see a male psychiatrist who aggressively sneered, taunted, bragged, baited, interrupted, gloated, smirked and insulted his way through the session. I barely had the chance to speak, but remained calm and polite. I was in a state of shock. My parents were present, but as malignant narcissists themselves, they did nothing.
Three years later, I saw a female counselor, who was almost equally as aggressive and, literally, did not allow me to get more than five words into a sentence before interrupting, finishing my sentence in a negative manner and then writing down everything that she had said in her notepad, obviously, in order to later claim that they were my statements.
Again, I remained calm and polite but eventually, I had to stop speaking in order to prevent her from putting more negative and untrue words into my mouth. I could say I was shocked, but after my first experience, I wasn't.
Their malignant narcissism was chillingly palpable, though I didn't know the word for it then. Maybe that's the British National Health Service for you, no checks on the mental stability of their staff. All therapists should have to go through stringent psychiatric tests before they are let loose on the public. I now wouldn't see a therapist if my life depended on it.
The worst psychologists I met said “opposites attract.” That is the stupidest, and most idiotic thing I have ever heard an amateur say. I looked at her like she was a penguin in the Saharan Desert. People who believe that are often co-dépendants to alcoholics, and do significant damage to their clients. They need to stay out of the mental health fields, and stay in therapy. A medical Doctor trained me to get away from co dependents and their alcoholic significant others. He said nine times out of ten they are both abusing others as much as each other. Can be a dangerous interaction. I quit that therapist fast. Medical doctors set the bones of abusers and know that therapists can be in on co dependent games. God bless that Orthopedic- he was a true friend. Generally I trust feedback from guys who set bones for a living.