If I'm not mistaken, and I could be wrong, Venom left a second piece of venom at the bar. As I saw, there were 2 versions of the bar, one that is set within the MCU and one in the SONYVERSE So, the piece of venom that was collected was the one in the SONYVERSE, and the other piece is still in the MCU Again, I might be wrong, but they seemed to try to show that the bartender is a different version of himself because of the hair, I think venom says "I like our version of the bartender better"
No you and other channels need to take responsibility, as you are big issue when it comes to Marvel. You over promise fans by making videos based on really bad interpretation, knull was never ever going to be a villain of this movie no matter how many videos you did. When I think back to another video, you over promise like Multiverse of madness it was the same BS from all of you. For you to call yourself a real marvel fan, then suggest that Venom needs to have to spiderman to be good, despite Venom being a character in his own right has had plenty of solo runs shows you're not . Like you dont even get mcu entire saga is secret war 2015. You're clueless that they have been introducing barons. Clueless that Avengers 5 was time runs out regardless of title. You didn't even clock that kangs role was that if molecule man ,he wasn't actual the villain. The very fact that none of you clock the Multiverse will be destroyed and Doom will build Latverion battleworld out of the remains of the Multiverse . Which means that includes venomverse. You've no clue what is actually coming. Because of this you help create this toxic environment. Saying this needs to stop is just gross .the pure entitlement is what's wrong with the world. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean a movie has to stop. I don't like football but I'm not saying that. The issue with this movie is very simple, the family wasn't needed , the underutilised Toxin they could have had more characters, not just lasher and agony at the end. But this movie was what it advised
@@andrewpearson3516look Andrew Screen crush is one of the few Channels that works on entertaining us and it a opinion it not about right or wrong you want change make a channel and put the work in
Ehhhh, I just didn’t like it 😂 I would’ve preferred him as the new Logan in the MCU rather than Eddie Brock at all. He doesn’t resemble Eddie, they didn’t try to follow any semblance of storyline for the reason he DOES want Venom…I love him as an actor, hated him in this role.
I love Hardy as Venom but not as Eddie Brock. I’d say do what they did with Hulk and Keep Hardy as the voice of Venom but have someone new play Eddie. Eddie as a character is something I don’t think Sony really ever knew what to do with. He’s a loser but he’s a loser we hate to love and when he does turn over a new leaf and becomes an anti hero he’s given a lot of time to shine as Spiderman’s doppelgänger. I really hope Sony just gives up cause without spiderman they suck.
To be fair he really tries hard to spin, there trend on UA-cam where guys are being more mindful in what they say and how they say it. Ryan been consistent and I give him his props for that
Sony is like that ex that tells you they’re going to change. You believe them time after time, they tell you how they’re going to change but they disappoint you every time.
I just came from the movie. THEY DID NOT TAKE THE GOO FROM THE MCU! Watch the movie again. When Eddie gets pulled back "home," he leaves the bar and leaves a tip. The TIP HAS GOO ON IT AND THAT'S WHAT GETS TAKEN. Not the goo from the MCU. So the symbiote is still in Mexico in the MCU. C'mon guys, pay attention!
Ryan is talking about how the goo was left in the mcu universe in the spiderman film. Then when you watch this film the goo was left in the Sony verse. So they have retconned that piece of venom left in the mcu.
@@W468thetruthno, they didn’t. they show almost the exact same scene as the post credit scene, and the goo is still left in the MCU. then when Venom pays with the coin, there is ALSO goo left on the table. two separate pieces of goo, two separate universes.
I wish that you were this hard on The Joker 2, however, this is a valid critique. Sony has bombed every single Marvel adjacent project they’ve dropped.
The only thing Marvel Adjacent project Sony have not bombed is the PS games but technically its Insomniac games that does them with backup from Sony : P I would say Sony should give the movie/serie rights to MCU Marvel and keep the Game rights. they could even make it so that Sony is the only ones that can make Games from Marvel characters couse we all know that Guardians of the galaxy, midnight suns and the Avenger game was not the best not the worst either but it was not that great but the Spiderman games are really good. couse in that way Sony would win all characters and do games with and MCU would win couse they could do great movies and series : P i think that is a good compromise
If I'm not mistaken, and I could be wrong, Venom left a second piece of venom at the bar. As I saw, there were 2 versions of the bar, one that is set within the MCU and one in the SONYVERSE So, the piece of venom that was collected was the one in the SONYVERSE, and the other piece is still in the MCU Again, I might be wrong, but they seemed to try to show that the bartender is a different version of himself because of the hair, I think venom says "I like our version of the bartender better"
Yep this. I never thought they retconned the venom in the 616 because we see that piece remain after Eddie disappeared. In Venom 3, he leaves a second piece.
@@ibrahimramzaan cuz Fox have the right and were making their Xmen films on their own at the time, on the other hand Sony and marvel are collaborating in using Spiderman, yet Sony doesn’t let marvel access certain Spiderman characters cuz they wanna fuck them up in their stupid solo films first, it’s a very big difference
@@madtitan0825 I hate it but it’s a smart move from Sony corporate and Tom Rothman. The longer they hold out selling, the more the value goes up. MCU needs Spider-Man more than Sony does really. Theatrical is a very small portion of Sony’s balance sheet and 1 of 7 major operating units. Sony (Columbia Pictures) paid $8m for the rights. That’s almost nothing. It’s like buy Apple stock at $3. They can sell and make a huge profit but right now, they have the luxury of having their cake and eating it too
@@RMCM024 if you don't know anything about venom and the series starting from the comics then you wouldn't understand. They clearly strained away from what makes these characters that's why people are mad
Honestly I will give it 7/10. Just wish knull had some action. Also don’t want spider man to be here although he is my fav. I want venom to be at the spotlight and be the hero. Or antihero . ❤
In Ejiofor's defense, having grown up with a retired army special forces father, I would say that portrayal of not knowing if he's friend of foe or how he's going to react is pretty accurate ngl
The Spiderman 1990’s cartoon did Venom and Eddie Brock justice in a couple of episodes more than 6 plus hours of movies. I knew they would mess up Knull!!!
No they didn't, they changed the source material so hard it's still changed to this day and made Venom a rather pathetic character in comparison. I'm not saying the animated show was bad by any means, but saying they did it "justice" is just plain wrong.
@@clausch.3517 it’s an opinion, so I’m not wrong. But I will say give you that maybe it didn’t do it justice, but they got Brock and Venom better than the movies.
@@generationalcursebreaker i don't disagree with you but "its an opinion so im not wrong"? lol. you can try and say the sky is red and that's just your opinion but that doesn't make you right. opinion doesn't mean it can't be debunked. you know who else had an opinion? a guy with funny moustache in germany...
@@clausch.3517 You're complaining about an adaptation that changed the source material in the comment section of video about a movie series that changed the source material even more drastically... like, at least the 90's cartoon still had Venom existing because of Spider-Man, instead of expecting us all to awkwardly pretend like he doesn't exist.
Did Eddie knock out a guy to steal his tuxedo? In Spider-Man, Venom is literally a black suit. Knull's plan must be to take over the men's wearhouse. "You're going to like the way you look... I guarantee it"
Imagine: Sony sells to Marvel. We get a proper Morbius as a horror villain story and he fights Spider-Man. He's too strong for Spider-Man, and the Black Cat won't let Spider-Man kill Morbius because she loves him. Blade shows up to help. Together they help Morbius control his thurst and together, Morbius and Blade start the Midnight Suns. It would be amazing to see Spider-Man tempted by someone like the Black Cat and how complicated their relationship would be. This is BY FAR one of my favorite stories from the Animated series.
Still better then The Celestials, She Hulk etc MCU ain't perfect neither it's been pretty trash since End Game minus Deadpool and No Way Home even tho NWH kinda sucked cause you can tell it was shot during covid!! They would did more Spider-Man scenes if it wasnt
@@carson21211Agreed the OG Venom from the 90's comics and the 90's Animated Spiderman show is the Venom i love, Unfortunately they pulled a character assassination on him in the modern dogshit trilogy
Tom Hardy and his Venom should have been in the MCU from the start, fight spidey in his first appearance (maybe change the motivation, the age gap would be weird for that) and then spin off into his own franchise. I love the old couple dynamic between Eddie and Venom honestly and like the design (just add the symbol and it's the perfect Venom for me), but holy shit Sony just stop.
An easy MCU Brock setup- Pete gets a job at the Bugle (reluctantly, seeing as it's propaganda in the MCU) Eddie Brock, the older hot shot gets taken down when he submits photos of Spider-Man that Pete knows never happened. Uses Stark tech to identify Brock used AI to fake pictures of Spider-Man fighting villains he's never even met, and then realizes all of Brocks big pieces have been fake. Brock gets fired and can't find a job as he has no real talent and had been using AI to fake being a photographer.
@@TheCesmi23 unfortunately for us fans, it’s a business. Sony already had to bump up cofinancing on Spider-Man movie to 25% (and that will certainly be higher for Spider-Man 4 with a new deal). Imagine if Sony had to split gross revenue with Venom too. There was a brief rumored window in 2019 where Sony may have been willing to sell the rights back for $5B. That’s a steal in 2024. Disney should have offered $1B in cash and $5B in stock.
Tom Hardys Venom dosen't work. This Character should be recast if they ever want to put him in the MCU, and make the Character finally work on the big screen. Adding these failure characters to Spiderman 4 would be a massive mistake.
Why isn’t anyone saying how much this doesn’t feel like venom? It feels like Spider-Man in Black. These people don’t understand the character of venom, apparently.
in response to your remarks at 14:05 i do agree that those scenes are the first enjoyable ones in the film but even still the transition into that scene feels like it comes completely out of nowhere, it's just suddenly venom respects him for literally no reason at all and it infuriates me to this day that they wont release an extended cut because i am positive that this development was left on the cutting room floor. it's like they couldn't decide if they wanted to make guardians of the galaxy or man of steel.
I think they've been very vocal about Knull not being the main villain of this movie and it's build up to other appearances (whether that happens or not is to be seen)
That was the part that did me wanna leave the theater... It was so forced to make it funny. It didn't even made any sense. First when Venom met the creature, he was scared ah. Telling Eddie that he couldn't take his full form. By then throwing his own advice overboard for a silly dance scene where they 'accidentally ' met Chen in Vegas.. I think any criticism is at it's place for this. Doesn't take it away I'm glad that you at least enjoyed it. I sadly enough couldn't 🙈
There’s two things you can do here that might help: Understand that the dude wants to do ads his own way and implement them creatively into his video, and remove the automated ads from his video because of this, or… Shut the hell up, nobody asked you to comment and the dude’s business choices Hope I helped 😊
Wouldn't you want to get paid for doing what you love? I totally get it, but I appreciate that he tries to make it entertaining. Duncan Trussell is my favorite. He does his own spots and they can run long and man they are laugh out loud nonsense. I don't even know what he's promoting!😂
@@toylips do you think doing those ads is their only source of income? Because it's not. Do it in 30 seconds, fine. Over 100 seconds? C'mon man. We don't come here for the ads.
Just watched the movie it was better than I thought. I liked how you said the buddy cop because that's what was one of the best parts. I'm not too familiar with knull so I was really hoping to learn more and I still feel the way I did when I first went into the movie
I never spent a dime on venom 1,2 or 3- I knew waaayyy b-4 hand.. this was hot garbage. Shout out all the ppl who made the 1st 1 a hit . Should have stopped from the jump😅
This movie was written just around the strike. They had to get it into production just before the strike happened suddenly. They had a deadline to release this
The point is its so bad you shouldn't even watch it there either. Don't waste your time. These people consistently try to take advantage if fans of these characters.
I didn’t get why people kept saying, I hope Venom fights Spider-Man. But I always didn’t care because it’s still not technically “Venom” fighting Spider-Man. It’s Sonys weird comedy version of Venom. And if he had fought Spider-Man then I don’t think they would make a serious MCU version, which I am hoping for at some point. They might never do it but at least there’s more hope there than hope pretty much lost if this Venom fought Spider-Man Also as a side note because these movies are so meh. Whenever I think of Tom Hardy, I never think “he’s Venom”. Like the same way you would think Batman or Spider-Man when thinking Christian Bale or Tom Holland. I think a big reason is that these movies are not definitive in any way.
Why do people act like you have to “praise” Tom Hardy? This isn’t the Venom I grew up with. That can work if done well for character development (Tom Holland Spider-Man is a unique backstory to traditionally bringing in Spider-Man but it works). I can’t stand these disjointed, camp comic movies. I’ll bet in 15 years, people will put these up with the Raimi Spider-Man because people love member berries. Sony needs to give up making Spider-Man movies. Let Marvel do it. Work out the cofinaning. Sony can sit back and collect money for just lucking into the $8m rights that they’ve made 400x profit off of
This was the best venom movie yet! I love Venom comics and I loved the movie. I just wished they'd have stayed true to the symbiote colors at the end. It made it hard to follow the action
18:35 - 18:45 So basically, Iron Man, Thanos and the Hulk also exist in the Venomverse... wait, WHAT?! Kevin Feige must be pulling out his hair and jumping around his room like a rampaging gorilla🤯 Also, 12:54 Knull is actually Ezekiel Sims's long lost twin brother. There, I CALLED IT!
lol it’s so annoying that everyone knows what they are going to get then criticize. I call it “Tyler Perry’s syndrome “ people go to the theater and shocked about the issues they knew would exist in the movie. It’s a pastime now apparently
You guys do realize the venom goo left in the MCU and the venom goo from this one are different? The venom goo is still in the MCU Eddie left it when he was ripped from that universe. This shard they captured was from the scene at the beginning when we first saw venom…it’s two completely different pieces. The MCU venom symbiote pile is still alive
Sony needs to fire every last one of its writers man. They are able to cast the right people but everything fails in the writers room. Either through barely fleshed out stories or executives interfering with an already mediocre story and turning it to absolute garbage
So how would you handled it then because from the way it sounds like as if you would’ve done it any better. You mean to tell me you would have the big bad just appear on screen for everyone to go up against right there and then for a final film when it wasn’t even built up at all? it sounds like you would have Thanos appear in the first avenger film and think it was a good idea 😂 get outta here. They handled knoll fine imo
@@noxus158wtf are you on about? If I’v been paid millions to write a story and care for the character then yes I and other people can do better the writers are just terrible literally they can start but making him a more threatening force or just make more sense his biggest issue is him only sending like 6 minions even though venom is the most important character to him he makes no sense
I think it's a set up / surrender of Sony to Marvel. The future sight might happen sometime soon. I hope they can invorporate it in Marvel projects. The movie was fun and I'm happy they did not unleash Knull because it would give the character unimagineable injustice.
I'm confused. Venom is clearly a successful franchise. It doesn't mean everyone has to like it. To each their own. It is also clearly the most successful thing Sony produces that is not connected directly to Marvel. If the point was just to say you don't like it, ok I guess. Everyone at this point knows it's not high art, and you don't see the 3rd film after seeing the first two expecting a change in form. Hence, my confusion. You knew what you signed up. You can't now complain about buyer's remorse.
If the Morbius movie worked. If the Madame Web movie worked. If they were still gonna do Sinister Six after a successful Kraven film ... then introducing Knull works. Then building him up as a big bad where the Spiderwomen and Venom would have to work with the Sinister Six to stop Knull would have been watch for me. Kinda like Civil War was scaled down to work for the MCU. But since none of their stuff is working and they clearly just misleading fans with incoherent writing with no direction.. they gotta stop
Me too, there are times where he’s right and I respectively agree with him, and there are times where I wonder if he’ll ever truly let people enjoy a movie without being a pessimist. I love his articles, but it’s so refreshing to hear Ryan’s and Colton’s a little more optimistic voice
For some reason, I still want to watch the movie and smile. I will just pretend it's not a Marvel movie. This character is just unique and it's in own universe. We'll see. I'll still watch it for Tom Hardy.
I'm torn because Sony's live-action spider-man-less films are a flagrant attempt to maintain rights to the franchise. But for that reason we also get the Spider-Verse Cartoons. In a perfect world Sony would give up on live action drivel and just make quality animated Spider-Man films, which are not shackled to the MCU
@@onrimotiondesign I work in mergers and acquisitions. There are asset and stock acquisitions. When you acquire companies in a stock acquisition you get the whole company, balance sheet, liabilities, etc. Asset acquisition is just the contracts and projects. It’s even up to you whether you retain the people. Disney could reacquire the Spider-Man rights. It would be an asset deal. They could give Lord and Miller free rein to complete the 3 installment and cut the rest of the Sony projects. I’d assume that would be the route they’d take
@@ibrahimramzaan Nah, best thing for Sony to do is to stop. Let Disney/Marvel do all the work, lease the spider-man characters to them and just collect a paycheck.
I've never disagreed with you ever in my entire 18 years, 5 months, and 8 days of life. To be exact, I've NEVER disagreed with you so much in my entire 581,990,440 seconds of life.
My thing is, why did his shoes keep coming off? I read where the director thought it would be a funny gag to keep it going but I almost stopped watching the movie because of it!
Well I heard all of them are bad ,and not worth money especially this one. Don't be the problem because of idiots they keep making money on worthless movies. Demand better for yourself. Don't be a lemming.
Wait what? Spiderman Villains need Spiderman... Maybe these are just the episodes where Spiderman is off fighting the Rhino? But everything else Screencrush was spot on.
You guys gotta chill “just let go!!” This was a super fun movie and worth seeing in the theatre with a few beers. Just have fun with it. Too much overthinking. It is what it is. Made feel feel like watching random action movies on vhs in the 90s
@@samkay1400he is saying venom 3 is an insult to Marvel fans but did Ryan ever know that joker 2 was an insult to joker fans and people who like the first movie
I'd be willing to guess that most likely, the video game writers, directors, and developers are actual comic fans that are trying to bring a hero comic experience to a video game for comic fans. Whereas movies are made by rich idiots and nepo-babies (by committee as said in this video) that have bad taste and typically haven't been comic fans since youth, who are just trying to squeeze as many dollars as they can out of general consumers. Focused on "focus groups" of non-comic fans with bad taste as they create lol.
It might have been more effective if they hadn't revealed Knull himself but instead featured his minions, letting Venom be aware that Knull was behind their appearance. This could have added an element of mystery and shifted the focus onto the truly formidable main antagonists, the minions of Knull, who are visually impressive in their own right.
@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617 comparing a TV show to a movie is like comparing loki to she hulk also Sony isn't trying to compete with Marvel, they just do it to keep the rights
Sony: "Hey, gonna make the final Venom movie with Knull as the antagonist." Fan: "Hell Yeah! And you're gonna get Spider-Man involved somehow this time to complete Venom's transformation?" Sony: "No" Fan: "What do you mean no? You basically own the character and you put both Hardy and Holland in end credit scenes of 2 movies leading up to this movie" Sony: "Yeah, we only did it for the money and to ensure you watch this movie" Fan: " Does Knull at least give Venom a challenge?" Sony: "He'll have about 10 to 15 minutes" Fan: "10 to 15 of What?" Sony: "You see, this is Venom's last movie so we're gonna focus on how Eddie and Venom developed as characters as a whole. With a Road Trip" Fan: "You telling me Spider-Man's tease was nothing, this movie's gonna be a family road trip and Knull is gonna only have a wasted screen time?" Sony: "Sorry, couldn't hear you, counting money."
I wish they would have set up the clone saga. Instead of not having Spider-Man. They should have just used Ben Riley and then had Peter Parker in the mcu and Ben Riley in the Sony verse then they join up in secret wars. Ben dies in secret wars. You would have had a Spider-Man in both. It would have continued to be able to use Peter Parker in the future.
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If I'm not mistaken, and I could be wrong, Venom left a second piece of venom at the bar.
As I saw, there were 2 versions of the bar, one that is set within the MCU and one in the SONYVERSE
So, the piece of venom that was collected was the one in the SONYVERSE, and the other piece is still in the MCU
Again, I might be wrong, but they seemed to try to show that the bartender is a different version of himself because of the hair, I think venom says "I like our version of the bartender better"
@@agb7471 literally just type this ❤
No you and other channels need to take responsibility, as you are big issue when it comes to Marvel. You over promise fans by making videos based on really bad interpretation, knull was never ever going to be a villain of this movie no matter how many videos you did. When I think back to another video, you over promise like Multiverse of madness it was the same BS from all of you. For you to call yourself a real marvel fan, then suggest that Venom needs to have to spiderman to be good, despite Venom being a character in his own right has had plenty of solo runs shows you're not . Like you dont even get mcu entire saga is secret war 2015. You're clueless that they have been introducing barons. Clueless that Avengers 5 was time runs out regardless of title. You didn't even clock that kangs role was that if molecule man ,he wasn't actual the villain. The very fact that none of you clock the Multiverse will be destroyed and Doom will build Latverion battleworld out of the remains of the Multiverse . Which means that includes venomverse. You've no clue what is actually coming. Because of this you help create this toxic environment. Saying this needs to stop is just gross .the pure entitlement is what's wrong with the world. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean a movie has to stop. I don't like football but I'm not saying that. The issue with this movie is very simple, the family wasn't needed , the underutilised Toxin they could have had more characters, not just lasher and agony at the end. But this movie was what it advised
@@andrewpearson3516look Andrew Screen crush is one of the few Channels that works on entertaining us and it a opinion it not about right or wrong you want change make a channel and put the work in
and what does the back of the bully maguire t-shirt look like?
What kept this series alive was how good Tom Hardy is
He was okay
he's great, if we consider the material he's given with
Yea the 2nd film sucked. Didn't care for it or this one. 1st sucked to honestly but Tom's acting is really good. Love him.
I love that, at the bare minimum, everyone loves Hardy as Venom.
Ehhhh, I just didn’t like it 😂 I would’ve preferred him as the new Logan in the MCU rather than Eddie Brock at all. He doesn’t resemble Eddie, they didn’t try to follow any semblance of storyline for the reason he DOES want Venom…I love him as an actor, hated him in this role.
Do they?
I love Hardy as Venom but not as Eddie Brock. I’d say do what they did with Hulk and Keep Hardy as the voice of Venom but have someone new play Eddie. Eddie as a character is something I don’t think Sony really ever knew what to do with. He’s a loser but he’s a loser we hate to love and when he does turn over a new leaf and becomes an anti hero he’s given a lot of time to shine as Spiderman’s doppelgänger. I really hope Sony just gives up cause without spiderman they suck.
He was better than Topher Grace. Hardy is the perfect cast for Eddie Brock Venom. Just wish it was like the Venom from the comics.
Its that Henry/ Superman hype. Blame the story's NOT the actors
I don't think I've ever seen a ScreenCrush episode where Ryan is like, "stop the madness, stop the absurdity" right out the gate! LMAO.
He’ll come back in a few months and switch his stance saying it was fine haha.
To be fair he really tries hard to spin, there trend on UA-cam where guys are being more mindful in what they say and how they say it. Ryan been consistent and I give him his props for that
@@garethbatchelor3305ign everyone gets a 7
He right this movie sucks
Had to close it when he brought the other dude in. Absolutely horrible takes could not get through this vid.
“I hated the movie. The movie was a failure. Stop the madness. These movies suck”……………”so buy our Venom parody merch” LOL
Lmao right these guys hate like crazy
immediately came here to say the same thing lol
Like it or not Venom is Hella popular
😭😭😂😂 this is so funny
Capitalism
Sony is like that ex that tells you they’re going to change. You believe them time after time, they tell you how they’re going to change but they disappoint you every time.
😂
Because of you pal you make them change with in 3month then return and slip back be on it like training a puppy 😂😂
Right and unfortunately Sony never giving up the rights
I can’t believe people really thought Knull would anything besides sit in that chair
Yessss! THIS RIGHT HERE! It’s like… C’mon people. It’s SONY we’re talking about here. What more did you really expect? 😩🤦🏾♀️
Bro if knull was antagonist in this, the movie is done now
At least Knull did slightly more than what Thanos did in the first Avengers movie.
Bros didn't read the comics
Right 😅😅😅😅😅
"Venom without Spiderman is dumb and weird" - Max Landis.
I can assure you that gap ist hasn't read a single venom comic in his life
True and real.
It has to be a spiderman movie not a venom movie. I don't want to see spiderman in any venom movie
venom himself is awesome bro
it's just goofy when Sony fucks up again
@@magnabeast88Why not? Some people are tired of Spider-Man movies there’s been a million of them.
I just came from the movie. THEY DID NOT TAKE THE GOO FROM THE MCU! Watch the movie again. When Eddie gets pulled back "home," he leaves the bar and leaves a tip. The TIP HAS GOO ON IT AND THAT'S WHAT GETS TAKEN. Not the goo from the MCU. So the symbiote is still in Mexico in the MCU. C'mon guys, pay attention!
👀 ok
Thanos was a villain that sat around for a few movies before infinity wars
Literally lol@@eshco1
Ryan is talking about how the goo was left in the mcu universe in the spiderman film. Then when you watch this film the goo was left in the Sony verse. So they have retconned that piece of venom left in the mcu.
@@W468thetruthno, they didn’t. they show almost the exact same scene as the post credit scene, and the goo is still left in the MCU. then when Venom pays with the coin, there is ALSO goo left on the table. two separate pieces of goo, two separate universes.
I wish that you were this hard on The Joker 2, however, this is a valid critique. Sony has bombed every single Marvel adjacent project they’ve dropped.
Spiderverse
it's so weird that he's so critical of this but wasn't even close on Joker which was a far worse product and an even worse sequel
@@balakehbthat’s what happens when one company pays him and the other company doesn’t.
@@Yoda_Saint_Cloud yeah and captain marvel also had empty seats bought by Disney to make it go to a billion dollars worldwide box-office, right?
The only thing Marvel Adjacent project Sony have not bombed is the PS games but technically its Insomniac games that does them with backup from Sony : P I would say Sony should give the movie/serie rights to MCU Marvel and keep the Game rights. they could even make it so that Sony is the only ones that can make Games from Marvel characters couse we all know that Guardians of the galaxy, midnight suns and the Avenger game was not the best not the worst either but it was not that great but the Spiderman games are really good. couse in that way Sony would win all characters and do games with and MCU would win couse they could do great movies and series : P i think that is a good compromise
Ryan's not angry, he's just disappointed
This movie was great compared to The Joker 2 and Ryan was praising that movie like it was the best thing came out this year 🤔
If I'm not mistaken, and I could be wrong, Venom left a second piece of venom at the bar.
As I saw, there were 2 versions of the bar, one that is set within the MCU and one in the SONYVERSE
So, the piece of venom that was collected was the one in the SONYVERSE, and the other piece is still in the MCU
Again, I might be wrong, but they seemed to try to show that the bartender is a different version of himself because of the hair, I think venom says "I like our version of the bartender better"
You are definitely right, I noticed that too. New Rockstars made a mistake like this too saying that the green symbiote on that detective was toxin.
You’re right
Yep this. I never thought they retconned the venom in the 616 because we see that piece remain after Eddie disappeared. In Venom 3, he leaves a second piece.
Came here looking for this comment. You are totally correct.
Did he leave a piece in both bars?
Sony gatekeeping marvel from using Spiderman characters is just another level of stupidity
Nope, it makes sense since foxdid the same thing
@@ibrahimramzaan cuz Fox have the right and were making their Xmen films on their own at the time, on the other hand Sony and marvel are collaborating in using Spiderman, yet Sony doesn’t let marvel access certain Spiderman characters cuz they wanna fuck them up in their stupid solo films first, it’s a very big difference
@@madtitan0825 I hate it but it’s a smart move from Sony corporate and Tom Rothman. The longer they hold out selling, the more the value goes up. MCU needs Spider-Man more than Sony does really. Theatrical is a very small portion of Sony’s balance sheet and 1 of 7 major operating units.
Sony (Columbia Pictures) paid $8m for the rights. That’s almost nothing. It’s like buy Apple stock at $3. They can sell and make a huge profit but right now, they have the luxury of having their cake and eating it too
Makes them too much money
Not stupidity. Greed and pettiness.
i dont care what people think or say i like this movie
People just like to be angry about something
Yeah dude it was actually really good idk what people want at this point but the past Sony movies are terrible but this one is different
@@RMCM024not angry just disappointed. If you know venom you’d understand
@@RMCM024 if you don't know anything about venom and the series starting from the comics then you wouldn't understand. They clearly strained away from what makes these characters that's why people are mad
Honestly I will give it 7/10. Just wish knull had some action. Also don’t want spider man to be here although he is my fav. I want venom to be at the spotlight and be the hero. Or antihero . ❤
Sony needs to completely stop making Marvel movies. They are killing these characters. Sell all marvel rights to Disney/Marvel. PLEASES 😢
If this and kraven bomb Disney/Marvel will have means to sue for the rights for damaging the brand.
Like Marvel can do something decent, look at all the current comics run... looking at you ASM.
Not sure about Disney, though.
@@genlus_shorrible take, Marvel has plenty of great comics ongoing right now
Fugk Disney.. Give it to Netflix with the condition that they use the same directors/writers that did Daredevil and Punisher.
Sorry to break it to you but Disney made like 3 good marvel movies all the others was trash
I pirated this movie, and I still felt ripped off.
You should get your money back for the time wasted.
In Ejiofor's defense, having grown up with a retired army special forces father, I would say that portrayal of not knowing if he's friend of foe or how he's going to react is pretty accurate ngl
😅😅😅😅
The Spiderman 1990’s cartoon did Venom and Eddie Brock justice in a couple of episodes more than 6 plus hours of movies. I knew they would mess up Knull!!!
No they didn't, they changed the source material so hard it's still changed to this day and made Venom a rather pathetic character in comparison. I'm not saying the animated show was bad by any means, but saying they did it "justice" is just plain wrong.
@@clausch.3517 it’s an opinion, so I’m not wrong. But I will say give you that maybe it didn’t do it justice, but they got Brock and Venom better than the movies.
@@generationalcursebreaker i don't disagree with you but "its an opinion so im not wrong"? lol. you can try and say the sky is red and that's just your opinion but that doesn't make you right. opinion doesn't mean it can't be debunked. you know who else had an opinion? a guy with funny moustache in germany...
@@clausch.3517 You're complaining about an adaptation that changed the source material in the comment section of video about a movie series that changed the source material even more drastically... like, at least the 90's cartoon still had Venom existing because of Spider-Man, instead of expecting us all to awkwardly pretend like he doesn't exist.
Imagine hating on Agatha All Along without having seen it, and then lining up to see this on opening night.
Cope more fangirl
That's why I hate on everything without seeing it, and sleep very well
Honestly idk why agatha all along is so gay but then i’m like oh its for witches
Thats gay
Agatha is slop babygurl
@@zubinchadha6489 I'm a guy and it's an amazing show. Marvel and DC Studios are making bangers right now on television.
Did Eddie knock out a guy to steal his tuxedo? In Spider-Man, Venom is literally a black suit. Knull's plan must be to take over the men's wearhouse. "You're going to like the way you look... I guarantee it"
Yeah, in the comics didn’t Venom have the ability to mimic any clothing or disguise?
It was implied in the trailer that Venom turned into a black suit since he does that in the comics, but not in the actual movie
Yeah, he did it in Spider-Man 2 the Insomniac game.
I thought he did that in the first or second film?
Imagine:
Sony sells to Marvel.
We get a proper Morbius as a horror villain story and he fights Spider-Man.
He's too strong for Spider-Man, and the Black Cat won't let Spider-Man kill Morbius because she loves him.
Blade shows up to help. Together they help Morbius control his thurst and together, Morbius and Blade start the Midnight Suns.
It would be amazing to see Spider-Man tempted by someone like the Black Cat and how complicated their relationship would be.
This is BY FAR one of my favorite stories from the Animated series.
non of the Venom movies ever worked. I watched the first one with my wife and the first thing she said when it was over was "....that was so bad."
I disagree the movies work just fine
shes very intelligent unlike most sheeple
The Venom franchise has never been more than lukewarm schlock
Still better then The Celestials, She Hulk etc MCU ain't perfect neither it's been pretty trash since End Game minus Deadpool and No Way Home even tho NWH kinda sucked cause you can tell it was shot during covid!! They would did more Spider-Man scenes if it wasnt
its really amazing. Im a huge fan of spiderman (comics/90's cartoon) and I love Venom, but these movies are horrific!
Very accurate description of them
Not to mention it was supposed to take place after DS MOM but it didn't since it got delayed@@TylerSane5
@@carson21211Agreed the OG Venom from the 90's comics and the 90's Animated Spiderman show is the Venom i love, Unfortunately they pulled a character assassination on him in the modern dogshit trilogy
Tom Hardy and his Venom should have been in the MCU from the start, fight spidey in his first appearance (maybe change the motivation, the age gap would be weird for that) and then spin off into his own franchise. I love the old couple dynamic between Eddie and Venom honestly and like the design (just add the symbol and it's the perfect Venom for me), but holy shit Sony just stop.
An easy MCU Brock setup- Pete gets a job at the Bugle (reluctantly, seeing as it's propaganda in the MCU) Eddie Brock, the older hot shot gets taken down when he submits photos of Spider-Man that Pete knows never happened. Uses Stark tech to identify Brock used AI to fake pictures of Spider-Man fighting villains he's never even met, and then realizes all of Brocks big pieces have been fake. Brock gets fired and can't find a job as he has no real talent and had been using AI to fake being a photographer.
@@TheCesmi23 unfortunately for us fans, it’s a business. Sony already had to bump up cofinancing on Spider-Man movie to 25% (and that will certainly be higher for Spider-Man 4 with a new deal). Imagine if Sony had to split gross revenue with Venom too.
There was a brief rumored window in 2019 where Sony may have been willing to sell the rights back for $5B. That’s a steal in 2024. Disney should have offered $1B in cash and $5B in stock.
Tom Hardys Venom dosen't work. This Character should be recast if they ever want to put him in the MCU, and make the Character finally work on the big screen. Adding these failure characters to Spiderman 4 would be a massive mistake.
Tom Hardy/Venom is confirmed for Spiderman 4 A New Home
@@cosmic_JAVno he isn’t
Somy constantly introduces plot points and characters they NEVER seem to follow up on
Why isn’t anyone saying how much this doesn’t feel like venom? It feels like Spider-Man in Black. These people don’t understand the character of venom, apparently.
Explain the character of Venom then
@@Priestradamus how bout use google and get some context
in response to your remarks at 14:05 i do agree that those scenes are the first enjoyable ones in the film but even still the transition into that scene feels like it comes completely out of nowhere, it's just suddenly venom respects him for literally no reason at all and it infuriates me to this day that they wont release an extended cut because i am positive that this development was left on the cutting room floor. it's like they couldn't decide if they wanted to make guardians of the galaxy or man of steel.
I think they've been very vocal about Knull not being the main villain of this movie and it's build up to other appearances (whether that happens or not is to be seen)
Jesus. I'm not sure I've ever heard this channel crap on a movie.
Respect
look dude, i still like venom dancing with Mrs Chen it was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was the part that did me wanna leave the theater... It was so forced to make it funny. It didn't even made any sense. First when Venom met the creature, he was scared ah. Telling Eddie that he couldn't take his full form. By then throwing his own advice overboard for a silly dance scene where they 'accidentally ' met Chen in Vegas.. I think any criticism is at it's place for this.
Doesn't take it away I'm glad that you at least enjoyed it. I sadly enough couldn't 🙈
@@theevilcherry1518 it was forced i agree
@@theevilcherry1518 theater? I never seen a venom movie in the theaters….
@jonnycashh3876 theatre, cinema, etc. However you want to name it. Now go walk the line...
Just wait, the wrath of Kraven is still remaining on the SSU.
Kraven might be decent. we will see
@@carson21211 from writers of Transformers the last knight and Uncharted movie, meh
@@madtitan0825 ahhh, great. Nevermind then.
I’m actually gonna go to the theaters to see it ….
@@jonnycashh3876 I would save your money. Seriously. It's bad.
Oh no. Wish I saw this before booking tickets for the first showing in like 2.5 hours 😂
Tell them you are sick and get a refund.
Wait, so you’re actually surprised the movie sucks? 😭
@@j.a.weishaupt1748 I was holding out hope it would be decent 😂😂
@@benjaminnaidoo9776 don't listen to Ryan. Don't forget he thought Joker 2 and she Hulk was good.
@@robertw31968 , I don’t think you watched the whole videos.
That "We are Venom" bit makes me cringe every time.
Not me
Your ad is over 100 seconds. Some people pay for UA-cam premium to skip the ads, then creators do ads anyway, so what's the point?
There’s two things you can do here that might help:
Understand that the dude wants to do ads his own way and implement them creatively into his video, and remove the automated ads from his video because of this, or…
Shut the hell up, nobody asked you to comment and the dude’s business choices
Hope I helped 😊
@@generalgaming302 hey. GFY
Everyone is a sellout.
Just a matter of how long till they expose themselves. It’s why I never give UA-camrs money
Wouldn't you want to get paid for doing what you love? I totally get it, but I appreciate that he tries to make it entertaining. Duncan Trussell is my favorite. He does his own spots and they can run long and man they are laugh out loud nonsense. I don't even know what he's promoting!😂
@@toylips do you think doing those ads is their only source of income? Because it's not.
Do it in 30 seconds, fine. Over 100 seconds? C'mon man. We don't come here for the ads.
Just watched the movie it was better than I thought. I liked how you said the buddy cop because that's what was one of the best parts. I'm not too familiar with knull so I was really hoping to learn more and I still feel the way I did when I first went into the movie
Matt is starting to become the cartoon character movie critic who is angry all the time
I never spent a dime on venom 1,2 or 3- I knew waaayyy b-4 hand.. this was hot garbage. Shout out all the ppl who made the 1st 1 a hit . Should have stopped from the jump😅
If you paid your electricity bill, technically you spent more than a dime on Venom 1-3
2nd one was a hit too😂
I hope that I can be as cool as you someday
@@Yoda_Saint_Cloud 😂
Facts facts same here …..all 3 Trash lol
This movie was written just around the strike. They had to get it into production just before the strike happened suddenly. They had a deadline to release this
.... This kinda sounds like the reasons we didnt like Joker 2
Ita definitely not as bad he said ,as some who has the movie like myself
I love how I got an ad for Venom: The Last Dance while watching this video.
"Don't see it in theatres - see it on streaming" If they disrespect the consumer, we should disrespect them back by pirating.
Shut up mcu disrespects spider-man
@@zubinchadha6489At least that's owned b Marvel and Disney and not by Sony and their "I Think It Has Something to Do With Spider-Man" universe.
Straight to Kodi here I come
@@zubinchadha6489 where? Probably the best interpretation of both spiderman and Peter Parker.
The point is its so bad you shouldn't even watch it there either. Don't waste your time. These people consistently try to take advantage if fans of these characters.
I didn’t get why people kept saying, I hope Venom fights Spider-Man. But I always didn’t care because it’s still not technically “Venom” fighting Spider-Man. It’s Sonys weird comedy version of Venom. And if he had fought Spider-Man then I don’t think they would make a serious MCU version, which I am hoping for at some point. They might never do it but at least there’s more hope there than hope pretty much lost if this Venom fought Spider-Man
Also as a side note because these movies are so meh. Whenever I think of Tom Hardy, I never think “he’s Venom”. Like the same way you would think Batman or Spider-Man when thinking Christian Bale or Tom Holland. I think a big reason is that these movies are not definitive in any way.
Why do people act like you have to “praise” Tom Hardy? This isn’t the Venom I grew up with. That can work if done well for character development (Tom Holland Spider-Man is a unique backstory to traditionally bringing in Spider-Man but it works).
I can’t stand these disjointed, camp comic movies. I’ll bet in 15 years, people will put these up with the Raimi Spider-Man because people love member berries.
Sony needs to give up making Spider-Man movies. Let Marvel do it. Work out the cofinaning. Sony can sit back and collect money for just lucking into the $8m rights that they’ve made 400x profit off of
Having watched no trailers or spoilers before seeing it, i really enjoyed the film.
The best thing we can do is, “DON’T GO TO SEE THE MOVIE”
This was the best venom movie yet! I love Venom comics and I loved the movie. I just wished they'd have stayed true to the symbiote colors at the end. It made it hard to follow the action
They’ve already announced an R Rated Animated Venom film with Seth Rogan behind it
That stoner shouldn't be making any movies.
18:35 - 18:45 So basically, Iron Man, Thanos and the Hulk also exist in the Venomverse... wait, WHAT?! Kevin Feige must be pulling out his hair and jumping around his room like a rampaging gorilla🤯
Also, 12:54 Knull is actually Ezekiel Sims's long lost twin brother. There, I CALLED IT!
lol it’s so annoying that everyone knows what they are going to get then criticize. I call it “Tyler Perry’s syndrome “ people go to the theater and shocked about the issues they knew would exist in the movie. It’s a pastime now apparently
You guys do realize the venom goo left in the MCU and the venom goo from this one are different? The venom goo is still in the MCU Eddie left it when he was ripped from that universe. This shard they captured was from the scene at the beginning when we first saw venom…it’s two completely different pieces. The MCU venom symbiote pile is still alive
Sony needs to fire every last one of its writers man.
They are able to cast the right people but everything fails in the writers room. Either through barely fleshed out stories or executives interfering with an already mediocre story and turning it to absolute garbage
We don’t go see venom 3 because it’s a masterpiece….we go see it drunk on a matinee Tuesday afternoon for 5.00😂😂
Sony should stick to making Playstations
If Knull really did be in the movie (I know he’s in the movie), there wouldn’t even be a movie since he would’ve one-shotted the entire Verse
I'm sorry, run that back?.. 13:42
Venom: The Last Dance❌
Sony:Lost Faith ✅
The only video where I rooted for Singer to leave a horrible take.
😂those who thought Knull was going handled well were just delusional
So how would you handled it then because from the way it sounds like as if you would’ve done it any better. You mean to tell me you would have the big bad just appear on screen for everyone to go up against right there and then for a final film when it wasn’t even built up at all? it sounds like you would have Thanos appear in the first avenger film and think it was a good idea 😂 get outta here. They handled knoll fine imo
No way, Knull is a trilogy on its own... or more @@noxus158
@@noxus158 True, I mean if they add knull in the movie it would be disappointing but they didn't they just show him and that's it
@@noxus158wtf are you on about? If I’v been paid millions to write a story and care for the character then yes I and other people can do better the writers are just terrible literally they can start but making him a more threatening force or just make more sense his biggest issue is him only sending like 6 minions even though venom is the most important character to him he makes no sense
@@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531 just put the fries in the bag bud 😂 you don't write anything
The movie was awesome.
Sony not doing the Clone Saga and just creating their own Silk, Scarlet spider and Superior spider man characters in movies is just mind blowing
I think it's a set up / surrender of Sony to Marvel. The future sight might happen sometime soon. I hope they can invorporate it in Marvel projects. The movie was fun and I'm happy they did not unleash Knull because it would give the character unimagineable injustice.
Sony should just stop trying to adapt Spider-Man villains they keep failing badly really badly in my opinion.
I'm confused. Venom is clearly a successful franchise. It doesn't mean everyone has to like it. To each their own. It is also clearly the most successful thing Sony produces that is not connected directly to Marvel. If the point was just to say you don't like it, ok I guess. Everyone at this point knows it's not high art, and you don't see the 3rd film after seeing the first two expecting a change in form. Hence, my confusion. You knew what you signed up. You can't now complain about buyer's remorse.
If the Morbius movie worked. If the Madame Web movie worked. If they were still gonna do Sinister Six after a successful Kraven film ... then introducing Knull works. Then building him up as a big bad where the Spiderwomen and Venom would have to work with the Sinister Six to stop Knull would have been watch for me.
Kinda like Civil War was scaled down to work for the MCU.
But since none of their stuff is working and they clearly just misleading fans with incoherent writing with no direction.. they gotta stop
im convinced matt just doesnt like anyhting
Me too, there are times where he’s right and I respectively agree with him, and there are times where I wonder if he’ll ever truly let people enjoy a movie without being a pessimist. I love his articles, but it’s so refreshing to hear Ryan’s and Colton’s a little more optimistic voice
Anything that doesn't do what he wanted them to do.
I mean, he seemed to like Joker Takes A Deuce for some reason. I mean Joker 2, but yeah I hear you man
Ya I usually leave any video with Matt in it these days. He’s just a hater.
He hates everything.
These people don’t understand venom.
Sony must be stopped
Bro the movies were all good....like. I mean we are all entitled to our opinions I reckon. I enjoyed this last movie personally.
Love the “Waiting for Godot” reference.
Yes, but the mispronunciation of Godot was jarring. It's not the same as Gal Gadot!
I haven't seen "Last Dance" yet, but I loved the 1st 2 movies.
Ryan saw a crappy movie and chose violence
For some reason, I still want to watch the movie and smile. I will just pretend it's not a Marvel movie. This character is just unique and it's in own universe. We'll see. I'll still watch it for Tom Hardy.
I'm torn because Sony's live-action spider-man-less films are a flagrant attempt to maintain rights to the franchise. But for that reason we also get the Spider-Verse Cartoons. In a perfect world Sony would give up on live action drivel and just make quality animated Spider-Man films, which are not shackled to the MCU
The best thing for Sony is to reboot and do a Spiderman universe again
@@onrimotiondesign I work in mergers and acquisitions. There are asset and stock acquisitions. When you acquire companies in a stock acquisition you get the whole company, balance sheet, liabilities, etc.
Asset acquisition is just the contracts and projects. It’s even up to you whether you retain the people. Disney could reacquire the Spider-Man rights. It would be an asset deal. They could give Lord and Miller free rein to complete the 3 installment and cut the rest of the Sony projects.
I’d assume that would be the route they’d take
@@ibrahimramzaan Nah, best thing for Sony to do is to stop. Let Disney/Marvel do all the work, lease the spider-man characters to them and just collect a paycheck.
I've never disagreed with you ever in my entire 18 years, 5 months, and 8 days of life. To be exact, I've NEVER disagreed with you so much in my entire 581,990,440 seconds of life.
Sony is so Fing downgrading our taste on super/antihero movies nowadays smh
My thing is, why did his shoes keep coming off? I read where the director thought it would be a funny gag to keep it going but I almost stopped watching the movie because of it!
Waited 10 minutes for an after credit scene that led to nowhere smh
Very disappointing.
Venom is a roach and it’s goodbye for now
How hilarious was it when the captains name I can’t remember got so mad about “losing 3 men”….when the whole freaking squad got wiped out 😂😂😂
Don’t let Sony interfere in Spider Man 4, otherwise they will make it a flop too.
They were involved in the last 3. Last I checked those movies worked.
@@chuckgreen41 the tom holland spiderman movies are awful. He's a terrible actor. everything he's involved in is bad.
@@carson21211 Billions of dollars dosen't come from awful. Lame an underwhelming is what happens in an Andrew Garfield/ Tom Hardy Sony universe.
@@chuckgreen41 the spiderman chracter drew in the casual audience. Toby McGuire movies are much better , imo
@@carson21211 that's a lifetime ago
There is no going back over 20 years ago. Big dog here and now.
I think or at least hope that it’s going to be a trust the process situation. Think about how long Thanos was in the MCU before it actually picked up.
Heard this is the best Sony supervillain movie tho
Well I heard all of them are bad ,and not worth money especially this one. Don't be the problem because of idiots they keep making money on worthless movies. Demand better for yourself. Don't be a lemming.
It’s not better than the first movie.
Imagine if they could negotiate a franchise trade and send Star Wars to Sony and Disney gets the Spiderman IP back
Let’s just accept that the entire Venom series has been *_JUNK_*
Wait what? Spiderman Villains need Spiderman... Maybe these are just the episodes where Spiderman is off fighting the Rhino? But everything else Screencrush was spot on.
You guys gotta chill “just let go!!” This was a super fun movie and worth seeing in the theatre with a few beers. Just have fun with it.
Too much overthinking. It is what it is. Made feel feel like watching random action movies on vhs in the 90s
Sony just make movies so they can make people hate these beloved characters 😭
Remember this guy said joker 2 is a masterpiece
He also loved acolyte
Never let ryan cook 😭🙏
@@samkay1400he is saying venom 3 is an insult to Marvel fans but did Ryan ever know that joker 2 was an insult to joker fans and people who like the first movie
@@dragonnet289 personally i dont want to watch joker 2 bc im not keen on musicals but i loved the first so i dont know if i should bite the bullet.
Topher Grace’s Venom is actually better, because they perfectly match each other’s personalities!!!
Hey, he was better than I remember, when I watched that again! It was an odd take, but he was nailing what they gave him, I think.
I KNEW this wasn’t going to work from the get go.
Imagine how bad Kraven the Hunter will flop...
@@LuznoLindo"flop" it made 400m
@@BlackWater-p7k That's quite sad, then, because next to nothing even happened in that movie.
All of the Sony Spiderless Movies are Turds in the Wind, All of Them, Venom is no Exception, Not Anymore after this.
No one lied. The movie is not a fail. 💀 Its such a good movie
One of the best of your vids!
Kravens next
Hope u tell Marvel to stop too with Echo and she-hulk ( one of your best TV.serie till date ) absurd
How does Sony get the Spider-Man games right, but the movies so wrong...
Only live action, the animation is firee
I'd be willing to guess that most likely, the video game writers, directors, and developers are actual comic fans that are trying to bring a hero comic experience to a video game for comic fans. Whereas movies are made by rich idiots and nepo-babies (by committee as said in this video) that have bad taste and typically haven't been comic fans since youth, who are just trying to squeeze as many dollars as they can out of general consumers. Focused on "focus groups" of non-comic fans with bad taste as they create lol.
It might have been more effective if they hadn't revealed Knull himself but instead featured his minions, letting Venom be aware that Knull was behind their appearance. This could have added an element of mystery and shifted the focus onto the truly formidable main antagonists, the minions of Knull, who are visually impressive in their own right.
Agatha All Along > Venom 3!
VENOM 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGATHA CRINGE TRASH
Agatha clears with ease
@ihaveakirbyobessesion2617 comparing a TV show to a movie is like comparing loki to she hulk also Sony isn't trying to compete with Marvel, they just do it to keep the rights
Telll me you haven't watched Agatha without telling us v@@yoyodude662
Agatha SNL all along
Sony: "Hey, gonna make the final Venom movie with Knull as the antagonist."
Fan: "Hell Yeah! And you're gonna get Spider-Man involved somehow this time to complete Venom's transformation?"
Sony: "No"
Fan: "What do you mean no? You basically own the character and you put both Hardy and Holland in end credit scenes of 2 movies leading up to this movie"
Sony: "Yeah, we only did it for the money and to ensure you watch this movie"
Fan: " Does Knull at least give Venom a challenge?"
Sony: "He'll have about 10 to 15 minutes"
Fan: "10 to 15 of What?"
Sony: "You see, this is Venom's last movie so we're gonna focus on how Eddie and Venom developed as characters as a whole. With a Road Trip"
Fan: "You telling me Spider-Man's tease was nothing, this movie's gonna be a family road trip and Knull is gonna only have a wasted screen time?"
Sony: "Sorry, couldn't hear you, counting money."
I wish they would have set up the clone saga. Instead of not having Spider-Man. They should have just used Ben Riley and then had Peter Parker in the mcu and Ben Riley in the Sony verse then they join up in secret wars. Ben dies in secret wars.
You would have had a Spider-Man in both. It would have continued to be able to use Peter Parker in the future.
That doesn't make sense. If Peter Parker is Spider-Man in the MCU how is there a clone in a separate universe? 🤔
They need to give it all back to marvel. Stop fucking up spider-man and it's universe.