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I could bare Venom 1 being PG-13, but the 2nd movie? Anything with Carnage in it should be anything but child-friendly. They all should've been R rated from the get-go.
@@SlyTF1 Look up The Death Of Jean Dewolff. The writer didn't want to write your typical Spiderman story. And I think Venom was in it too, I cant remember
@RikimaruLDR I don't give a damn about some obscure comic. Venom has never been rated R in the mainstream, so where is this narrative coming from that Venom should be rated R? This narrative NEVER made sense.
The worst part of the Venom movies as compared to the other garbage Sonyverse movies is that there was a potential for them to be good. "Let There Be Carnage" should've elevated the franchise and apologized for the misses of the first movie, but instead just reinforced the mediocrity of them.
This always had mediocrity written all over it. It just has that B-grade look to them, which Sony Pictures is really good at, unless they get the right people somehow like they lucked out with Sam Raimi and such. - But I mean, any next movie was never going to "elevate" anything but perhaps the budget. They just didn't get it and kept doing the same crap.
The minute that the random science women was introduced but in such a random way i knew that it would be a mess and all i could say to myself is who the the actual fuck are these people and why do i care?
Sony being afraid to do a rated R venom because they think they can't make money marketing to adults while marvel just made a billion dollars with a rated R deadpool/wolverine. Showing all the guts and gore you can have along with the most inappropriate adult jokes. Sony gotta be run by actual monkeys and they need to prove that they are not at this point.
AVI ARAD has ruined so far... * Borderlands * Venom: Last Dance * Daredevil (2003) * The Punisher (2004) * Elektra (2005) * Fantastic Four (2005) * X-Men: The Last Stand * Spider-Man 3 * Bratz (2007) * Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance * The Amazing Spider-Man 2 * Ghost in the Shell (2017) * Venom: Let There Be Carnage * Uncharted (2022) * Morbius And now he's gonna ruin... * Kraven the Hunter * Legend of Zelda * Naruto As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
I said the same thing about Jurassic World: Dominion after the trash-pile that was Fallen Kingdom and just like that film(in my Jeff Goldblum voice) "Venom 3 found a way."
@@stimswwolf7867I personally liked the way they did him with the rumor of him might being in Spiderman 4 it makes sense to tease him first like the MCU did thanos. The only problem is the way they did him he pretty much has to be in the next Spiderman movie or my opinion really doesn’t mean much.
Even if it didn’t have to do with Spider-Man venom still should’ve been creepy and more tauntingly joking rather than goofy type joking. I’m thinking a heath ledger esc type of personality just embedded on venom
I really feel like Guardians of the Galaxy was the worst movie to have exist. It feels like after that movie released, including Vol. 2, everything has been trying to be like it no matter what genre it's trying to be.
The Worst of The Trilogy? Dude the ENTIRE Trilogy is awful. Tom Hardy is a phenomenal actor & he does the best he can but not even he could salvage this DOA film series. Both Tom & Venom deserve a better movie than these 3 stinkers.
I enjoyed the first one in the 'its garbage but its tasty garbage.' The second one... not so much, having Carnage in anything less than a hard R movie is a huge mistake.
Agree. I've never rewatched any of the Venom movies and I wasn't looking forward to this one. "...fool me twice...", the one with Carnage was their chance to redeem themselves and get me back, but no: disappointed twice, so I don't care any more.
remade sounds so wrong. these should be forgotten and totally clean slate
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If Sony had done the black suit spidey saga up to maximum Carnage they would have still managed to F'd it up. They cant figure out the formula for success. Venom is a Anti-hero not a comedian and it should be R-rated.
this last movie was amazingly entertaining with jaw dropping visuals, Action & those symbiotes uniting was a great moment... ppl these days r just too sensitive just like woke culture... that they can't even enjoy a good movie 😮😢
He got a producer credit on this one. I would argue it was not the time to put your name all over a movie, but unfortunately I don't represent Tom Hardy. I really hope he starts getting better roles again.
Fun fact: she DIRECTED this one. Her "directoral debue" actually😂 This explains sooo much of the WEIRD sexual tensioms and the fact that ALL the relationships in these movies are TOXIC or ABUSIVE😭
I know Knull was only in it for a small bit in this film. I just can’t trust Sony letting Knull potentially being the main villain in Spider-Man 4. Like Knull is a huge deal.
Unfortunately, I think the first film made close to or over a BILLION DOLLARS (supposedly, FOR WHATEVER REASON, it did REALLY WELL in overseas markets like China and Korea) so we were DOOMED to get this “trilogy” off the jump.
WORSE than Cletus Cassidy being unable to control the Carnage Symbiote, and all while having a bad wig, in prison? Now THAT'S bad. And while you can enjoy "Let There Be Carnage" for what it is, and laugh at how dumb it is, it's at LEAST, got that one fight with Venom and Carnage near the end, and maybe like, 1 or 2 jokes that work? But for this movie to be WORSE than that one? Now, how'd they do that?
@@TophTheMelonLord1 Yeah, exactly. 2 was the worst. Because of their missed potential with both Cletus Cassidy and Carnage. 3, I figured it'd be really bad, just from the trailer alone. Because you BARELY see Venom. You just see Eddie Brock, doing embarrassing and stupid things, like dancing, and singing and going to casinos and gambling. Why is he even doing that in the first place? Also, it's not even a Venom movie. It's an Eddie Brock, does dumb things by himself movie, and isn't even a photojournalist in this film trilogy. Also, no Venom vs. Spider-Man? The N64 game from 2000 gave us that! It had 3 solid Venom boss fights. And even had Venom helping Peter and he even calls Captain America, at the end of the game!! It also had the better version of Carnage, and has a better Carnage fight too. A game from over 20 years ago, does things a movie, from 2 years ago fails to even come close to doing well. So, just stick with Deadpool & Wolverine instead, or wait until next year when, Captain America 4 comes out because so far, Deadpool & Wolverine is the ONLY amazing comic book movie to come out this year. Joker 2? Venom 3? Nothing but firey, disastrous disappointments, that belong in the trash, because that's what both of those movies are: garbage.
I just saw this last night. It was NOT good. The story felt unfocused, and Knull felt misused. The Carnage film was better than this one, and I didn't even care for it. For comic book films, drone antagonists should never be the main antagonists. They are boring. Characters were killed off without emotional attachment, like the detective who was butchered. I felt nothing, but it should have had more impact. You can't have a high-level threat with characters not taking shit seriously. You didn't see any major jokes in Infinity War for a reason. Come on, now. The gag with him having to change his shoes was not good. The dancing scene was random. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm going on a rant, but BFFR.
When i saw second movie i knew that if they make another it will be worse... i was right! U could already tell from trailers alone, that third movie will be bad!
Yep, definitely. Once you see Woody Harrelson in a bad wig in the trailer for "Let There Be Carnage" it completely ruins the entire atmosphere. And when you see the awful CGI in the trailer for this movie, it honestly felt like a bad SNL skit about a potential Venom 3 movie, but the trailer was just horrible, and boring. I was hoping they'd make up for "Let There Be Carnage" being showing us the absolute WORST version of Carnage/Cletus Cassidy we could've gotten, but then; they make a 3rd movie that ends up being worse than the previous movie? How? How? How? Just when you think that Venom 2 was the worst they could get, they go and make THIS. Thanks for that, Sony!
I’m all for the existence of these movies. It’s a blatant flex by Sony to tell Disney, “yep, we know these movies suck, but we wanna keep the Spider-Man license, so we can do this aaaaaaaaaaall day.” It doesn’t result in anything good, mind you, but I appreciate the troll.
Haven’t seen this film but I’m relieved that they didn’t have Knull be the final fight cause Sony 100% would’ve screwed it up big time cause Knull isn’t some obscure Spider-Man villain, knull is a walking nightmare in Marvel, knull has killed celestials with his bare hands and launched a Hellish symbiote slave army across the universe and beyond to tear apart, kill and destroy everything enjoying every second of it. There’s no way a venom a single symbiote would be able to beat knull when it took THE ENTIRE RACE he created to just imprison knull 24/7. Plus with how huge he is in marvel there’s a lot you can do with knull given his storyline is one of the best to come out of recent marvel comics.
I really don't see how these movies could be better. I guess you could not do the dance scene that gives away his location. But there's no better way to do a plot about Eddie and Venom. Venom needs to eat people to survive.
Symbiotes were retconned a long time ago to look like Spiderman for some reason. Until Knull but even then he had a similar symbol that looked likea spider but is apparently a dragon
The problem I have with the Venom Trilogy is that they made Venom waaaaaay too friendly. In every iteration of Venom, he was a monster. Especially in the Marvel Spider-Man 2, that’s how you treat Venom. Symbiotes are parasites that force their host to abide by their will. The first Venom movie was good because Venom was acting like how he’s suppose to be, a brain hungry, super powerful being. And the voice was good, it was menacing. The whole point of him was to be an anti-hero type like Deadpool. But then came the second movie and holy shit, they made Venom into a child. His voice got more high pitch and goofy sounding, he became way more easygoing and even had emotions of betrayal with Eddie. THATS NOT VENOM. All symbiotes care about is eating brains and controlling people. And what I hated the most was the fact that every symbiote that came from Venom, so Riot and Carnage, are much stronger than Venom. Thats how they operate, but Venom still comes out on top in a 15 minute fight. Like huh? I get it, you have to have Venom win, but don’t have him say “hey we have a 0% chance of winning” and then winning anyway with no major problems
💀Just remember to those who like the venom movies, These are opinions and are not personal attacks on you as a person, It is ok to like what you like even if most people do not like it, be an adult and not cry about how they did not like this movie.💀
@@mattyryon you must be very pleasant to be around. People like bad movies and people like movies that are bad, who cares what people like?! Would you be offended if I said most of the MCU (2008 forward) is just ok and not that great? They are fun movies but poor films.
Joe , I’ve been watching you for years man and just felt the need to say this. I initially started watching your videos because of your angry & passionate rants on corporate companies ruining your favorite franchises ; there was also an amateur but raw quality to your videos that added a charm to your content (as off putting as you might sometimes come off to mainstream viewers). I have to say man - and this is for Joe and Alex too, but mainly you - you’ve come a very long way: You’ve really grown into a full-on professional media journalist/critic with the way you’ve learned to carry & articulate yourself;…I’m just proud as a fan. Your consistency has been unmatched and I thank you for never changing. cheers Joe!!!
@@Jeez001just form your own opinion if its a crap movie and you like it thats fine. I mean Other Joe enjoys cringey awful movies there is nothing wrong with enjoying mediocre art its still art.
After seeing the movie myself, I’m trying to figure out how it’s above 50%, let alone the 80% it’s currently at. Seriously, how the fuck has this gone up????
It’s better than Joker 2. At least with this movie. I left the theater with a smile with my daughter. Unlike Joker 2. We left with just coldness. We had fun with this. We knew it wasn’t good, but we didn’t care. It was just fun.
As someone who is a security guard for a theater. Yea, this movie is bringing in nobody, which surprised me. I thought it would be packed and busy, but nope.
Your guys expectations for comic movies is insane. With a franchise like venom you shouldn't be expecting a third film to be award winning like if its LOTR or something. Im already anticipating the angry joe show to crap all over kraven the hunter when it comes out because "it doesn't fit the lore of the original comics" 🙄
Yeah they hired the screenwriter for 50 shades of Grey with a background in musical theater to make a venom movie. Looks like Sony is as trash as Disney.
Aah yes, the absolute blind mindless hate on Disney, where you have to put in so little effort to think for yourself, that you get to have 3 lazy American dicks tell you what to think, instead of, you kn ow, making up your own mind like a real person...
Somy were Trash b4 Disney was. In.2018 Marvel put out INFINITY WAR ffs. In 2018...Sony released a Venom trailer...that had NO symbiotes in it💀. And then the movie dropped and it was TERRIBLE. Couldnt find someone saying it was GOOD...just that it was "fun"
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Yes, and since when has 'fun' become literally the LAST thing people want? Since when has it become nitpicking and jerking that hate boner?
It already lost me with the first trailer. Looked like crap and he said "like a turd in the wind"... Me at like 30 years old: 😐🤨🙄 Venom should be absolutely scary and intimidating, like it pretty much was to me even in the '90s cartoon. It was an unsettling presence, not some kind of weird slimy early 2000s CGI character with a stupid smile and forced jokes that don't work. - I can't believe they completed a whole trilogy out of this crap, but I guess enough people went to see them all and Sony just REALLY wanted the money and rights.
Venom should never have been a PG-13. Really hoping for Venom to be absolutely badass in Spiderman 4, if No Way Home after-credits is in the same universe.
"send Venom to the MCU", really Joe? you still think the MCU can do any better? you can count the actual good things post-Endgame on one hand for the MCU, it's been garbage show/movie after garbage show/movie, the MCU do not have competent writers or directors. Just a few days ago they canceled the Blade movie cause of how bad a production hell it was in.
Imagine if Matt McMuscles made a What Happened one day on the entire Sony’s Spider-Man Cinematic Universe. At this point, I’m hoping for that to happen
The Venom Franchise should’ve been R Rated from the start instead of PG garbage. Venom and Carnage are super duper violent over the top characters in Marvel Comics and Sony completely botched them.
Venom probably got off lighter with Sony than he would have with Disney-hed be twerking with Sam Smith and having a bbq with She-hulk by now if it was the MCU
Building up the Sony Verse this far, they should've had Venom going up against Morbius or even Vulture, since he's in that timeline now and then they could've had Keaton drop a line about battling Spiderman, which could build towards a possible Venom cameo in Secret Wars.
Yeah, this was certainly the worst of the Venom trilogy. I would go as far as to say it was worse than Morbin Time. (The one thing that I laughed at was when Venom was dancing with Mrs Chen. He recreated the Toby dance from Spiderman 3)
i love how the joes give their opinions and everyones laughing and then alex gets super passionate and hones in on his favorite and not so favorite deets. definitely one of my favorite groups to listen to. you guys have amazing chemistry.
Let me just say this, I don't like Tom Hardy as Venom or as Eddie Brock. I'll just stick to the Comic Books. I like him better as a Spider-Man Villain. Great job on the review AJS Crew.
When you guys start off the video saying "dont worry guys, we dint hate every new movie, we liked alien romulus....." it doesnt really give the credit that you guys want when alien romulus was a mash up bwtween alien and aliens. Alien romulus was so member berry filled that my father who loved the force awakens for that same reason and the remake of star treck was like "you know, i couldnt really get into this one. It felt to much like alien"
@@justifano7046 yeah it sucks when the fragments of something that blew up years before just stops in a place it shouldn't be in because of course that's how space works. Or how there are scenes that are arguably just ripped from the original alien then it's sequel. Whats worse is that this is the only channel giving it praise while everyone else is saying what I am😂
this movie was amazingly entertaining with jaw dropping visuals, Action & those symbiotes uniting was a great moment... ppl these days r just too sensitive just like woke culture... that they can't even enjoy a good movie 😮😢
Venom was never goofy in the comics. The lines COULD be taken as goofy if you choose to hear them in your head that way but they can also be taken as a bit sick and blunt mockingly dark. He was not like this more base buddy comedy interpretation.
Don't be a contrarian it's not the worst Most reviewers say it's the best of the 3 You went to a Venom Movie what you expect At least this 1 come with some emotion
Movie just came out and we already got a review. Space Marine two came out two months ago and a massive Warhammer fan such as Joe couldn’t even give it a proper review. This is sad beyond sad.
Wtf he literally explained in his warhammer review he had family shit going on and that’s why it was delayed. These kind of comments are sad beyond sad
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You know what, Joe. It's like Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. Hardy wasn't a bad Venom; he was just part of a bad story.
This movie changed my life! When Venom said it's morbing time, I morbed so hard! 👽🍌💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦
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I could bare Venom 1 being PG-13, but the 2nd movie? Anything with Carnage in it should be anything but child-friendly. They all should've been R rated from the get-go.
But Kraven is R 😒
I hate Sony
Are you people insane? Carnage is a SPIDER-MAN character. Nothing SPIDER-MAN has EVER been rated R
@@SlyTF1 Look up The Death Of Jean Dewolff. The writer didn't want to write your typical Spiderman story. And I think Venom was in it too, I cant remember
@RikimaruLDR I don't give a damn about some obscure comic. Venom has never been rated R in the mainstream, so where is this narrative coming from that Venom should be rated R? This narrative NEVER made sense.
They wanted to make movie for everyone, instead they made movie for noone.
"its like that 'turn your brain off' garbage, but i turned my brain off and its STILL garbage" 😭😭 Need to use that quote more often
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That was literally how I felt when I was watching Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom in the theater.
@@shinndig1293 and dominion
@@DireNemesis Dominion pissed me off from start to finish. Never again 🤦🏾♂️
The worst part of the Venom movies as compared to the other garbage Sonyverse movies is that there was a potential for them to be good. "Let There Be Carnage" should've elevated the franchise and apologized for the misses of the first movie, but instead just reinforced the mediocrity of them.
This always had mediocrity written all over it. It just has that B-grade look to them, which Sony Pictures is really good at, unless they get the right people somehow like they lucked out with Sam Raimi and such. - But I mean, any next movie was never going to "elevate" anything but perhaps the budget. They just didn't get it and kept doing the same crap.
At least y'all can't cry that it's woke, and that going woke was why it wasn't good 😂😂😂😂😂❤
Let's cast 60 year old Woody as Carnage..... Brilliant
Agree and it's only going to get worse
The minute that the random science women was introduced but in such a random way i knew that it would be a mess and all i could say to myself is who the the actual fuck are these people and why do i care?
I never been a fan of any of the venom movies. Wasted of a great character.
Sad that Spider-Man 3 is the best Venom movie
@@TimmyJay02 agree
Venom from 90s animated series is the best
I watched the first one. That was enough for me
@@JoeLouis-hc7mm but it isn’t a movie though
Sony being afraid to do a rated R venom because they think they can't make money marketing to adults while marvel just made a billion dollars with a rated R deadpool/wolverine. Showing all the guts and gore you can have along with the most inappropriate adult jokes. Sony gotta be run by actual monkeys and they need to prove that they are not at this point.
They just love loosing money
@@Datdaniel90 well.......the venom movies were not that expensive to make😓
Don't disrespect monkeys like that , they are actually smart
Deadpool and Wolverine was only successful because of the cameos.
@jool4867 Stop it, get some help. - Michael Jordan
AVI ARAD has ruined so far...
* Borderlands
* Venom: Last Dance
* Daredevil (2003)
* The Punisher (2004)
* Elektra (2005)
* Fantastic Four (2005)
* X-Men: The Last Stand
* Spider-Man 3
* Bratz (2007)
* Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
* The Amazing Spider-Man 2
* Ghost in the Shell (2017)
* Venom: Let There Be Carnage
* Uncharted (2022)
* Morbius
And now he's gonna ruin...
* Kraven the Hunter
* Legend of Zelda
* Naruto
As long as Arad lives, there's no hope
Im seeing you alot. But I do agree with you he fucked so many films
He was the CEO of a toy company so he specializes in taking money from absolute idiots
Spiderman 3 and xmen 3 were objectively FANTASTIC!
wow that's a terrible resume
What the fuck?! He shouldn't be touching Naruto.
How in the world can it be worse than the 2nd. 😂😂
It isn't, it's the best in the trilogy
I said the same thing about Jurassic World: Dominion after the trash-pile that was Fallen Kingdom and just like that film(in my Jeff Goldblum voice) "Venom 3 found a way."
Subjective kids.
hold sony's beer lol
Because it's Sony so there's absolutely no way it could be better 😂
Knull is exactly the kind of character they shouldnt be allowed to touch with how they constantly screw up the others.
Not like they screwed up his character
@@hectorguy5687they really didn’t screw him up. They just didn’t do much with him
@@stimswwolf7867 If they had done something, technically there wouldn’t be a movie since he’s that powerful
@@hectorguy5687 wait Knull has the power to erase the venom trilogy from our collective consciousness?
That's my guy 😎
@@stimswwolf7867I personally liked the way they did him with the rumor of him might being in Spiderman 4 it makes sense to tease him first like the MCU did thanos. The only problem is the way they did him he pretty much has to be in the next Spiderman movie or my opinion really doesn’t mean much.
Sony did Carnage, Toxin and Venom dirty. The whole trilogy is a dumpster fire.
And riot and knull and madame webb and morbius……
Please don't get me started with Toxin lol.
I was looking forward to seeing Toxin in live action as a kid, too 😪
Oh god yes, I honestly hoped Toxin would be the saviour of this trilogy but Sony completely butchered him.
I miss the 90s animated venom that would stalk peter parker and turn his life into a nightmare, he was creepy and dangerous
Even if it didn’t have to do with Spider-Man venom still should’ve been creepy and more tauntingly joking rather than goofy type joking. I’m thinking a heath ledger esc type of personality just embedded on venom
I really feel like Guardians of the Galaxy was the worst movie to have exist. It feels like after that movie released, including Vol. 2, everything has been trying to be like it no matter what genre it's trying to be.
The Worst of The Trilogy? Dude the ENTIRE Trilogy is awful. Tom Hardy is a phenomenal actor & he does the best he can but not even he could salvage this DOA film series. Both Tom & Venom deserve a better movie than these 3 stinkers.
I enjoyed the first one in the 'its garbage but its tasty garbage.' The second one... not so much, having Carnage in anything less than a hard R movie is a huge mistake.
Agreed my buddy and I walked out of the first one in theaters. Didn’t bother seeing the second as it was also pg13
Agree. I've never rewatched any of the Venom movies and I wasn't looking forward to this one. "...fool me twice...", the one with Carnage was their chance to redeem themselves and get me back, but no: disappointed twice, so I don't care any more.
Tom Hardy used to be a good actor. I don’t know what he’s doing now.
Yeah knew it would be the first joke they pulled in trailer, venom meant to be a horror type esque could’ve did so much more
Maybe hot take, but all the venom movies are dog shit and should be remade by someone competent as soon as they can.
remade sounds so wrong. these should be forgotten and totally clean slate
If Sony had done the black suit spidey saga up to maximum Carnage they would have still managed to F'd it up. They cant figure out the formula for success. Venom is a Anti-hero not a comedian and it should be R-rated.
Venom has spent more time as a villain than as an Anti-Hero
no matter wat u say Last Dance was Dam entertaining movie... u can cry with ur agendas
This couldve been a sick AF Rated R trilogy. Too bad.
this last movie was amazingly entertaining with jaw dropping visuals, Action & those symbiotes uniting was a great moment... ppl these days r just too sensitive just like woke culture... that they can't even enjoy a good movie 😮😢
Who didnt see this coming after the marketing campaign with megan the stallion 😂... Tom Hardy deserves better than this, Hope he was paid well 😂
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He got a producer credit on this one. I would argue it was not the time to put your name all over a movie, but unfortunately I don't represent Tom Hardy.
I really hope he starts getting better roles again.
You kidding he made bank
What do you expect when you get the writer of fifty shades of grey to write your venom trilogy, well fucking done again Sony
Fun fact: she DIRECTED this one. Her "directoral debue" actually😂
This explains sooo much of the WEIRD sexual tensioms and the fact that ALL the relationships in these movies are TOXIC or ABUSIVE😭
The writing wack
The characters wack
The acting wack
The jokes wack
The cgi wack
The villain wack
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Sony really needs to stop making these Spider-man villain/anti-hero movies! Venom, Morbius, Kraven... Wack
Whats worse is they didnt build to anything
u keep crying here but they minting good money over there 😂😂
@Thatdudedrew17 -facts they didn't
I’m gonna wait for this to go to streaming.. in a few weeks. lol
Going to go see it for free since I got a buddy who works at a movie theater
its already streaming lol
It wasn't the worst movie out there, give it a shot, yesterday I went on a date with someone and actually enjoyed it
It's on UA-cam
I know Knull was only in it for a small bit in this film. I just can’t trust Sony letting Knull potentially being the main villain in Spider-Man 4.
Like Knull is a huge deal.
I haven't read anything since Civil War except Daredevil so I've never even heard of him. Not very interested.
@TheTaskmaster one of the most bad ass villains look into him.
@@TheTaskmasterhe created Gorr's sword in the latest Thor.
@@DOOMStudios Definitely not Spiderman 4 but a King in black movie yeah
@alienboitv648 ah yes. if they make something of that, that'd be cool. Too bad there wasn't more Gorr.
It definitely isnt the worst, 1 was tolerable, 2 was just an insult to Venom and Carnage, this one was mid af but at least entertaining
Joker: Wanna hear a joke?
Venom: No, we appreciate it though.
5:55 that clap almost synced
Venom's a joke.
Imagine that.
He used to be this scary intimidating bad guy, and I feel these movies do so much harm to his char overall.
Wouldn’t say he was ever scary or a good character, atleast these venom movies actually made him have a personality.
Not for me. Never seen em. 😊
Oh yeah, he was so scary in the PS1 Spider-Man game and not goofy at all
Venoms has always been goofy the only time he’s bad is when spider man gets rid of him
@@hectorguy5687He was goofy, but he didn’t dance…
I absolutely loved Venom The Last Dance its honestly my favorite venom movie and it got unnecessary hate.
Deadpool and Wolverine raised the bar sooo high. Not that an R rating would have saved this.
Cant believe sony is still milking this franchise. It should have ended with the 1st movie tbh.
this one was better than the other 2 but not by much. Joe is just trippin on this film
@@Dexedus nah the second one is the best, this one is just meh.
@@bigchungus5447 Oh dear god
That’s what I thought too. After the first film, they should’ve revealed that venom actually takes place in the mcu.
Unfortunately, I think the first film made close to or over a BILLION DOLLARS (supposedly, FOR WHATEVER REASON, it did REALLY WELL in overseas markets like China and Korea) so we were DOOMED to get this “trilogy” off the jump.
Let’s be honest. None of the movies were great to begin with. They’re the best Venom movies because they’re the only Venom movies.
Good thing I never watched or gave a shit about any of the venom movies
Same, that shit always looked trash to me
You’re both here commenting on a movie you didn’t see in a trilogy you don’t like??
@@jaydonjohnson7507 And? I like hearing about how bad it is
Agreed.. I never saw any of these films but will admit if Tom hardy/venom squared off against Tom holland spidey i would of been in
It’s the internet, I’m not alone in loving to hate things
All of these movies have been absolutely terrible, it's hard to believe people still gave them money after the first.
I feel like the only thing they did right was the look of Venom. He looked dope. That’s about it.
Worse than the 2nd?
That would take great effort😂
WORSE than Cletus Cassidy being unable to control the Carnage Symbiote, and all while having a bad wig, in prison? Now THAT'S bad. And while you can enjoy "Let There Be Carnage" for what it is, and laugh at how dumb it is, it's at LEAST, got that one fight with Venom and Carnage near the end, and maybe like, 1 or 2 jokes that work? But for this movie to be WORSE than that one? Now, how'd they do that?
It's worse than Madame Web, imo. At least that one was so bad it's fun.
It's definitely not the worst, 2 was way worse
@@TophTheMelonLord1 Yeah, exactly. 2 was the worst. Because of their missed potential with both Cletus Cassidy and Carnage. 3, I figured it'd be really bad, just from the trailer alone. Because you BARELY see Venom. You just see Eddie Brock, doing embarrassing and stupid things, like dancing, and singing and going to casinos and gambling. Why is he even doing that in the first place? Also, it's not even a Venom movie. It's an Eddie Brock, does dumb things by himself movie, and isn't even a photojournalist in this film trilogy. Also, no Venom vs. Spider-Man? The N64 game from 2000 gave us that! It had 3 solid Venom boss fights. And even had Venom helping Peter and he even calls Captain America, at the end of the game!! It also had the better version of Carnage, and has a better Carnage fight too. A game from over 20 years ago, does things a movie, from 2 years ago fails to even come close to doing well. So, just stick with Deadpool & Wolverine instead, or wait until next year when, Captain America 4 comes out because so far, Deadpool & Wolverine is the ONLY amazing comic book movie to come out this year. Joker 2? Venom 3? Nothing but firey, disastrous disappointments, that belong in the trash, because that's what both of those movies are: garbage.
These movies have never been good
The fact that there's now a trilogy of them is kinda mindblowing
I just saw this last night. It was NOT good. The story felt unfocused, and Knull felt misused. The Carnage film was better than this one, and I didn't even care for it. For comic book films, drone antagonists should never be the main antagonists. They are boring. Characters were killed off without emotional attachment, like the detective who was butchered. I felt nothing, but it should have had more impact.
You can't have a high-level threat with characters not taking shit seriously. You didn't see any major jokes in Infinity War for a reason. Come on, now. The gag with him having to change his shoes was not good. The dancing scene was random. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm going on a rant, but BFFR.
The worst instalment of a crappy trilogy, what an achievement!!!
So lemme guess, this is the Thor Love and Blunder of the Venom films....
Surprisely an accurate comparison both films are so childish and immature its insulting
@@dalberttran8134 Fuck, I was hoping this one would be better than the 2nd lol
Love and thunder was a great movie
It is this one is bad but not as bad as the second@@LeeH1989
@@356zno it wasn’t
When i saw second movie i knew that if they make another it will be worse... i was right!
U could already tell from trailers alone, that third movie will be bad!
Yep, definitely. Once you see Woody Harrelson in a bad wig in the trailer for "Let There Be Carnage" it completely ruins the entire atmosphere. And when you see the awful CGI in the trailer for this movie, it honestly felt like a bad SNL skit about a potential Venom 3 movie, but the trailer was just horrible, and boring. I was hoping they'd make up for "Let There Be Carnage" being showing us the absolute WORST version of Carnage/Cletus Cassidy we could've gotten, but then; they make a 3rd movie that ends up being worse than the previous movie? How? How? How? Just when you think that Venom 2 was the worst they could get, they go and make THIS. Thanks for that, Sony!
I’m all for the existence of these movies. It’s a blatant flex by Sony to tell Disney, “yep, we know these movies suck, but we wanna keep the Spider-Man license, so we can do this aaaaaaaaaaall day.” It doesn’t result in anything good, mind you, but I appreciate the troll.
Yeah until nobody goes into their movies anymore, because everything before was bad.
To be fair, Disney's Venom would most likely be an empowered black trans woman for all we know.
@@chuckdude514dont give them any ideas
@@chuckdude514brain dead schizo
losing money is trolling who exactly
Who remembers the carnage battle in Spiderman (ps1) venom in Spiderman (sega cd) who Menaced you through the game like nemesis in R.E.2 remake.
Haven’t seen this film but I’m relieved that they didn’t have Knull be the final fight cause Sony 100% would’ve screwed it up big time cause Knull isn’t some obscure Spider-Man villain, knull is a walking nightmare in Marvel, knull has killed celestials with his bare hands and launched a Hellish symbiote slave army across the universe and beyond to tear apart, kill and destroy everything enjoying every second of it. There’s no way a venom a single symbiote would be able to beat knull when it took THE ENTIRE RACE he created to just imprison knull 24/7. Plus with how huge he is in marvel there’s a lot you can do with knull given his storyline is one of the best to come out of recent marvel comics.
I really don't see how these movies could be better. I guess you could not do the dance scene that gives away his location. But there's no better way to do a plot about Eddie and Venom. Venom needs to eat people to survive.
how about actually have knull get out of his space chair and do literally anything…?
LMAOOO BOTH venom 3 and aquaman 2 ended with a cockroach in the after credits scene WTF!?
some people in their production teams are cockroach fans i guess.
(@Sony)
Fool me once, I'm mad
Fool me twice, how could you
Fool me three times, you're officially that guy
SONY F*** YOU FOR REAL WE AIN'T HAVING THAT SH*T.
Fool me four times, you fell right into my trap
Love the jontron reference
AIN'T HAVING THAT SHIT
@@luismoran4553I don't know, I'd rather apples and grapes...
I still don’t understand why venom have Spider-Man eyes like his mask. If venom never copy Spider-Man suit
🤷🏾♂️exactly
Because no one wants a venom that looks nothing like venom
@@Cruddy129Yet they want a Venom who doesn't act like Venom and is a complete joke unlike the real Venom? 🤦
Symbiotes were retconned a long time ago to look like Spiderman for some reason. Until Knull but even then he had a similar symbol that looked likea spider but is apparently a dragon
@@LunaticKD1991 lol I was gonna comment this lol
The problem I have with the Venom Trilogy is that they made Venom waaaaaay too friendly.
In every iteration of Venom, he was a monster. Especially in the Marvel Spider-Man 2, that’s how you treat Venom. Symbiotes are parasites that force their host to abide by their will.
The first Venom movie was good because Venom was acting like how he’s suppose to be, a brain hungry, super powerful being. And the voice was good, it was menacing. The whole point of him was to be an anti-hero type like Deadpool.
But then came the second movie and holy shit, they made Venom into a child. His voice got more high pitch and goofy sounding, he became way more easygoing and even had emotions of betrayal with Eddie. THATS NOT VENOM. All symbiotes care about is eating brains and controlling people.
And what I hated the most was the fact that every symbiote that came from Venom, so Riot and Carnage, are much stronger than Venom. Thats how they operate, but Venom still comes out on top in a 15 minute fight. Like huh?
I get it, you have to have Venom win, but don’t have him say “hey we have a 0% chance of winning” and then winning anyway with no major problems
💀Just remember to those who like the venom movies, These are opinions and are not personal attacks on you as a person, It is ok to like what you like even if most people do not like it, be an adult and not cry about how they did not like this movie.💀
IDK, if someone told me they like these movies I would immediately assume they have a major mental deficiency.
@@mattyryonI watch them for fun, can’t say the same about the other SonyVerse movies or most of Phase 4 MCU movies
@@mattyryon people liked the sharknato films. They are garbage films but they were a sensation, people can have fun and their own opinions.
@@AeonWest Those are intentionally bad
@@mattyryon you must be very pleasant to be around.
People like bad movies and people like movies that are bad, who cares what people like?! Would you be offended if I said most of the MCU (2008 forward) is just ok and not that great? They are fun movies but poor films.
Joe , I’ve been watching you for years man and just felt the need to say this. I initially started watching your videos because of your angry & passionate rants on corporate companies ruining your favorite franchises ; there was also an amateur but raw quality to your videos that added a charm to your content (as off putting as you might sometimes come off to mainstream viewers). I have to say man - and this is for Joe and Alex too, but mainly you - you’ve come a very long way: You’ve really grown into a full-on professional media journalist/critic with the way you’ve learned to carry & articulate yourself;…I’m just proud as a fan. Your consistency has been unmatched and I thank you for never changing. cheers Joe!!!
Audience score is 79% lol
These are the dummies who support this trash and allow them to make more trash.
Fucking joke
Which is not great as early audience are fans, Venom 2 when it came out was close to 90 and settled at 84%
@@Jeez001just form your own opinion if its a crap movie and you like it thats fine. I mean Other Joe enjoys cringey awful movies there is nothing wrong with enjoying mediocre art its still art.
After seeing the movie myself, I’m trying to figure out how it’s above 50%, let alone the 80% it’s currently at. Seriously, how the fuck has this gone up????
It’s better than Joker 2.
At least with this movie. I left the theater with a smile with my daughter. Unlike Joker 2. We left with just coldness. We had fun with this.
We knew it wasn’t good, but we didn’t care. It was just fun.
Morbius, Madame Webb, Kraven, and Venom all got their own movies. When Spider-Man 2099 is right there.
As someone who is a security guard for a theater. Yea, this movie is bringing in nobody, which surprised me. I thought it would be packed and busy, but nope.
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@@CyclonicDeath Yeah mate I agree 👍
Perfect example of wasted potential, if they made all 3 movies rated R and got an actual good director. Could’ve been top 5 marvel trilogy
He didn't jump the shark Joe, he jumped the horse
Alex: "The brand of comedy they like isn't what I like - I like funny jokes and they don't." 🤣🤣🤣 Gotta love Alex's cuts! Genius!
holy garbonzo beans joe looks rotund!! bro has NOT been saving the halloween candy for the kids
Last review buddy watched was in 2012 💀💀
Joe has been pudgy for well over a decade now. He never really gains, just stays at what you see.
Your guys expectations for comic movies is insane. With a franchise like venom you shouldn't be expecting a third film to be award winning like if its LOTR or something. Im already anticipating the angry joe show to crap all over kraven the hunter when it comes out because "it doesn't fit the lore of the original comics" 🙄
Yeah they hired the screenwriter for 50 shades of Grey with a background in musical theater to make a venom movie. Looks like Sony is as trash as Disney.
Aah yes, the absolute blind mindless hate on Disney, where you have to put in so little effort to think for yourself, that you get to have 3 lazy American dicks tell you what to think, instead of, you kn ow, making up your own mind like a real person...
Somy were Trash b4 Disney was. In.2018 Marvel put out INFINITY WAR ffs. In 2018...Sony released a Venom trailer...that had NO symbiotes in it💀. And then the movie dropped and it was TERRIBLE. Couldnt find someone saying it was GOOD...just that it was "fun"
@@no.1spidey-fan182 Yes, and since when has 'fun' become literally the LAST thing people want?
Since when has it become nitpicking and jerking that hate boner?
@@no.1spidey-fan182 You're not wrong.
I think this is one of the better super hero movies in the last 5 years
It already lost me with the first trailer. Looked like crap and he said "like a turd in the wind"... Me at like 30 years old: 😐🤨🙄
Venom should be absolutely scary and intimidating, like it pretty much was to me even in the '90s cartoon. It was an unsettling presence, not some kind of weird slimy early 2000s CGI character with a stupid smile and forced jokes that don't work. - I can't believe they completed a whole trilogy out of this crap, but I guess enough people went to see them all and Sony just REALLY wanted the money and rights.
Musical Venom, Musical Joker, Borderlands, WTF IS HAPPENING TO MOVIES AND THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY? It's awful!
Venom should never have been a PG-13.
Really hoping for Venom to be absolutely badass in Spiderman 4, if No Way Home after-credits is in the same universe.
Venom The Last Pay Check
Edit: I didn't even bother Pirating the first two films i just like watching reviews over the actual movies lol
I already had a feeling the movie was going to be bad due to how cringe the trailers were.
"send Venom to the MCU", really Joe? you still think the MCU can do any better? you can count the actual good things post-Endgame on one hand for the MCU, it's been garbage show/movie after garbage show/movie, the MCU do not have competent writers or directors. Just a few days ago they canceled the Blade movie cause of how bad a production hell it was in.
Yes, they can do better. You're delulu
I couldn’t even finish the movie bc no amount of drinking can help with venom acting sped
Imagine if Matt McMuscles made a What Happened one day on the entire Sony’s Spider-Man Cinematic Universe. At this point, I’m hoping for that to happen
Spider-Man 4 has been confirmed by Tom Holland in The Tonight Show though… Maybe? Maybe a Venom Vs Spider-Man movie, finally?
Final Verdict 21:24
The Venom Franchise should’ve been R Rated from the start instead of PG garbage. Venom and Carnage are super duper violent over the top characters in Marvel Comics and Sony completely botched them.
Not surprised, I only watched the first one (the ''good'' one) and as a Venom fan, thought it was trash.
I have that movie because I get them for Free and still haven't watched it 😅
What is happening!? How can it just get worse?
Venom probably got off lighter with Sony than he would have with Disney-hed be twerking with Sam Smith and having a bbq with She-hulk by now if it was the MCU
I mean who’s surprised that a superhero movie in 2024 is bad
Deadpool 3 was good
Fr Deadpool 3 was very good, the last superhero related movie I’ve seen that I actually enjoyed was Spiderman no way home, the boys, and peacemaker
The first Venom was great. The 2nd one was meh, felt like it was written for kids. I'm not even going to bother with this one
We still have a chance for knull to be an avengers villain 🤞
If thats the case then probably in 10 years
Building up the Sony Verse this far, they should've had Venom going up against Morbius or even Vulture, since he's in that timeline now and then they could've had Keaton drop a line about battling Spiderman, which could build towards a possible Venom cameo in Secret Wars.
This trilogy did exactly what it’s supposed to do: be entertaining
Yeah, this was certainly the worst of the Venom trilogy. I would go as far as to say it was worse than Morbin Time. (The one thing that I laughed at was when Venom was dancing with Mrs Chen. He recreated the Toby dance from Spiderman 3)
Who’s actually going out and watching these movies? Bots?
Bleep bloop.
Indians 🇮🇳
All my non cinefile friends are really excited for this movie and are going to see it in theatres
Not me. The first movie wasn't even particularly good. I wasn't going to watch two more.
@@A.Pearsonfriends don't let friends see Venom. Lol
i love how the joes give their opinions and everyones laughing and then alex gets super passionate and hones in on his favorite and not so favorite deets. definitely one of my favorite groups to listen to. you guys have amazing chemistry.
Venom 3: the last deuce.
Thank goodness, it’s finally over.
21:12 LMAO
This film was very fun. I had no expectations and had a great time. Only two things was out of place , the dance and lightning venom.
Dudes it was not that bad man jeez
I think it's easily the best of the three.What bothered me the most was Knull.The CGI on that face was so bad.
I can tell this is gonna be an entertaining couple of videos lmao
I think this movie is for kids who have nothing to do after schoo
Can't have Spider-Man in it because than venom can't be the protagonist even though he was the antagonist in the source material
It won’t be the last dance if it makes enough money. They’ll come up with some excuse for making another and call it the last last dance
Absolutely garbage movie but I watched it with my gf and laughed at how bad the acting is…absolute shit 😂
The hole trilogy is trashy AF. And they’re so bad they’re hilarious
Let me just say this, I don't like Tom Hardy as Venom or as Eddie Brock. I'll just stick to the Comic Books. I like him better as a Spider-Man Villain. Great job on the review AJS Crew.
When you guys start off the video saying "dont worry guys, we dint hate every new movie, we liked alien romulus....." it doesnt really give the credit that you guys want when alien romulus was a mash up bwtween alien and aliens.
Alien romulus was so member berry filled that my father who loved the force awakens for that same reason and the remake of star treck was like "you know, i couldnt really get into this one. It felt to much like alien"
Yeah it sucks that the alien movie feels like alien
@@justifano7046 yeah it sucks when the fragments of something that blew up years before just stops in a place it shouldn't be in because of course that's how space works. Or how there are scenes that are arguably just ripped from the original alien then it's sequel.
Whats worse is that this is the only channel giving it praise while everyone else is saying what I am😂
this movie was amazingly entertaining with jaw dropping visuals, Action & those symbiotes uniting was a great moment... ppl these days r just too sensitive just like woke culture... that they can't even enjoy a good movie 😮😢
Venom was never goofy in the comics. The lines COULD be taken as goofy if you choose to hear them in your head that way but they can also be taken as a bit sick and blunt mockingly dark. He was not like this more base buddy comedy interpretation.
Don't be a contrarian it's not the worst Most reviewers say it's the best of the 3
You went to a Venom Movie what you expect
At least this 1 come with some emotion
Crazy that Venom from Spider-Man 3 was way better and terrifying than this goofy version of Venom
Movie just came out and we already got a review. Space Marine two came out two months ago and a massive Warhammer fan such as Joe couldn’t even give it a proper review. This is sad beyond sad.
You know if it’s that sad you could just unsubscribe and move on.
Wtf he literally explained in his warhammer review he had family shit going on and that’s why it was delayed. These kind of comments are sad beyond sad