Where Were Kratos & Mimir Falling To?
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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2023
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One of the most mysterious scenes In God of War Valhalla happens when Kratos breaks the rules of Valhalla and they start to fall into an ominous red vortex. In this video I'll try to explain what it could be
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The theories about who blew the horn will always be interesting with me. Also, the vortex above Kratos' home is such an incredible view! I never noticed that it was AN ACTUAL VORTEX there!
the horn part was probably retconned or ignored . it feels like one of those things made for later use but never used or totally retconned for a totally different explanation later .
i am pretty sure originally they meant it to be Baldur since he was the one on their feet and the one looking and asking . later fans started to think its a times loop and that it was a future kratos who did that . then they thought it was Future ragnarok's calling , they they thought it was Angrboda but fans are just looking everywhere when the original answer is that it was Baldur and Santa monica too didnt care much until fans started throwing narrative and this made them say that one year they will tell because they thought it would be too anticlimatic to ignore fan's hype about it
@@LauftFafa Cory Barlog did confirm in a tweet that it was Baldur who blew the horn. that makes no sense to me because if that is the case 1. How would he communicate with the serpent. 2. Why would that end in anything other than a fight? 3. If there was a fight where is the evidence of said fight?
@@Asgardian30 well he fought it later and he defeated the crap out of him . He knocked him out to make him throw kratos out . They didn't cause many havoc.
But back to what you said , yes i know its weird but i feel they gonna retcon that for later like with the blades and so many things
@@LauftFafathe best explanation is that it was probably baldur. If it was somebody else the developers woulve adressed it a long time now
@@LauftFafa you'd think there would be damage. Was Jormunganger's tooth always missing from that one spot?
The 3 Furies were born from a same kind of vortex, i think you forgot that primordials war scene from GOW Ascension
Hey that's a good point. The Furies were such a boring villain that I forgot their origin story 😂
@@KaptainKuba Damn. 😂
Fair, but damn.
The Novel do say The Furies were born along Aphrodite from the blood of the cutted genitals of Cronos though💀
Is Kratos a primordial in disguise? Kratos can respawn for real?
@@KaptainKuba yeah man😂, surely they were boring but we can't deny the fact that they were one of the most powerful beings in Gow universe, they easily imprisoned Aegaeon the Hecatonchires.
I think I see a connection. When Athena died protecting Zeus she ascended right?
When Thor died after fighting kratos (he was seeking to protect his daughter thrúd) he started glowing and disappeared as if he ascended to the higher plane. When kratos was getting the blades to protect Atreus. The red sky rift appeared. When kratos tried to save Mimir it appeared again. Do you think if kratos died in these situations that he would ascend to the higher plane? Is this like a selection ritual to the higher gods?
Honestly don’t know what to make of this since we might as well be stepping into fanfic territory, but let’s roll back to GoW 1, there was a red vortex when Ares showed up to help Kratos with the barbarians. Although if it is some sort of trial that might explain why the red-themed Hades realm was such a pain to go through. Come to think of it I never realised until now just how similar it is to Valhalla
@@nickfrost4518red themed Hades realm? You mean that level you go through after kratos dies in gow2
Thor Glowed Blue that might be an important detail
From what we know as of now with the higher plains. Whatever controls this existence is choosing which gods ascend. Valhalla may have shown a glimpse of what kratos has already experienced when he was falling with mimir. I won’t be surprised if this series ends with the reveal of ares ascending due to the fact that his body became a nuke, therefore he too may have found improvement where he did not before.
@@nickfrost4518David Jaffe said the level could have used more playtesting.
The 2018 novel stated that red skies & vortex were a result of Atreus dying, so I assume since he is half-Greek his death could result in chaos spreading.
that was the vortex above his house , this one look way more bigger and maybe just an aesthetic choice for a none material realm . something like a void fissure to an immaterial realm or to none existence / chaos itself
That actually makes sense in hindsight, I wonder what disaster would've happened had he died
What page?
@@thatonerotom8999 that is why i don't abide novels very often. they are often secondary canon.
it doesn't work in context of the norse pantheon. in the greek realm the gods had absolute power. in these realms the gods do not.
@@taddad2641He's half-greek and half-norse, who know how that affects stuff cosmologically
The vortex was above the home because that is where the blades were. Something is up with the blades, potentially about how they came to be (including the cutscene). Surtr said promordial fire? I think that's where your next theory/thoughts should go: how any of the pantheons are connected to the same building blocks/elements/resources and the pantheons potential origins/creation.
In the Greek mythology (and many others) chaos was the beginning of all things. In the beginning, there was only chaos, and then all the primordial beings like Gaia began to shape and take consciousness.
Interestingly enough, in the Norse mythology in the beginning there was... order, kind of? There was no big churning chaos, but fire and ice that politely sat on their own ends of the Ginnungagap. Until they started to interact and that spurred everything into action.
Funny thing is, the oldest primordial of all, is Chaos. My theory is that the Blades of Chaos were imbued with a fragment of Chaos itself. And the old, ancient primordial is slowly waking up as kratos uses it outside of greece. Chaos is trying to reach further out and destroy all, sewing Chaos.
@@itsmegoodbye9227wow someone who doesn't even know the nature of Chaos, Chaos when broken down is madness, change, uncertainty, creation, life and light, whilst Order when broken down is logic, stagnation, certainty, destruction, death and darkness, Chaos doesn't seek destruction it seeks discord, after all the good side of Chaos is freedom and the evil side is anarchy, whilst Order seeks unity and the good side of Order is justice and the evil side is tyranny
I'm gonna be honest, the fist time I saw that vortex i thought we fell into Hades because it reminded me of how Hades looked in GoW 1. My head was in full greek myth mode and the fact that Valhalla is a type of afterlife made connect the dots.
I agree, Tartarus was the first thought. To me this scene confirmed that Kratos's soul will return to his own world if he die
This makes the most sense to me, everything ain't all that difficult, I think they were simply falling to hell and their physical bodies were in the process of being banished there for breaking the rules of Valhalla
I like that sigrun is developped in this dlc and leaves her valkyrie status to explore the world
Can’t forget Atreus emotions change the weather and I think him being sick and mixed up with Kratos not telling him could be a reason for those circumstances
I could've sworn i heard a quote from Cory that said something about it being only one real answer, the person that was looking for Kratos at the time (Baldr). Bc at the final fight, he said "i knew hurting the big snake would get you guys out". So he knew that they were on good terms with Jormungandr. Likely didn't answer Baldr when he blew the horn to ask
I don't think SMS would be so tight-lipped if it was simply Baldur
@@dudeguy8686 true, I just figured they were trolling, like how Cory would do the "never heard of it" thing when asked about GoW. From what I remember, it was an interview with Cory. I'm gonna see if I can find it. Totally possible that I'm misremembering so I'm trying to find it lol
@@Krissyd215 Good luck finding it, it'd be great to have more of a clue to the horn-sounder besides that there IS someone.
Been theorizing it might be related to time-travel, with Atreus as my biggest suspect, but we'll see eventually, I'm sure.
A part of me thinks the higher order of gods are supposed to be on another level but then i remembered how Athena who is now on a higher plan of existance was terrified of Kratos when it looked like he was going to strike her down.
That was just surprise, also remember when Zeus died and he went to the "higher order" he literally destroy all the weapons of Kratos with just a little lightning and he broke Kratos neck with one arm
@@nosequeponermenosoymuyorig1712 Zeus did not ascend. It was the power of the Evils in pandora's box awakened after Kratos almost killed him.
The same thing happened when the power of hope awakened in kratos after zeus pretty much killed him.
@@virtual_bomber5698 if It was that them why all the other olimpian gods dont were in that form? Also he looks very similar to athena in that form and they were killer by the blade of Olimpus
@@nosequeponermenosoymuyorig1712bro, the dark evil Power from pandoras Box just infested Zeus, when u were in poseidons room in gow 3, u were able to collect pages there on which poseidon wrote that Zeus has gone insane or something like that.
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The thing with Athena is that there was never a secured explanation on how she reached that "Ghost God Form". It was only said that by her sacrifice of Zeus she reached that Status. Nothing more. The "Dark Evil Zeus Ghosty mf" has nothing to do with athenas Ghost God form.
My biggest concern was how Kratos was so cool with the void, the red rift, why was he so cool with what was going on? I don't think it was so simple as he relied on the mechanics of Valhalla.
Come on, it's Kratos we're talking about after all. Whatever it was in that vortex, Kratos would kill it and climb out of it or kill the vortex itself 😂.
@@colored433 you're so right but hear me out. Game dev: so what's our explanation? Oh he's to angry to die and he is chill cause he knows death. Dude, that's to easy and Santa Monica has proven again and again they subvert expectations. There is definitely more to the first climactic than meets the eye.
“In moments of crisis, panic does nothing”
Kratos literally crawled out of Hades, which looks very similar to the void, twice. I think he’s beyond being frightened of death
Kratos has been on Hell's borders so many times that this one doesn't phase him too much.
Can video about how stronge is kratos with power of hope please 😢
Honestly the thing that got me to think that Athena IS just Athena in GOW 3 is when Kratos lists "deceit " as one of the fears in the box. Also I think when Mimir says "Higher Plane" they mean a higher level in distance. I think this because it goes from normal norse realms, to the primordial realms, to Greece, and finely to the top of Olympus; the highest part of Kratos' Valhalla. Also I'm pretty sure that we fight Tyr where we fight Zeus in God of War 3 at the top of Olympus, not sure if anyone noticed this or if I'm wrong though. Thanks for reading my thoughts, great video!
I think a higher plane of existence may be related to emotions, it's a bit of a stretch, but colors are often compared to emotions and you have, for example, Red is anger, blue is hope, and green is greed. after all, the most powerful force in the universe is emotions, which even govern gods. And here they show the green Athena who wants to grab everything for herself and the green rift that made Odin greedy and only think about her. In the comics you have blue-eyed Athena who guides Kratos towards the hope of a new life and Thor, who regained hope that he can fix everything, went to a higher plane of existence in a blue glow. and of course you have Kratos who is fueled by anger because he had to retrieve the blades of chaos and was also angry that he was cheated and mimir almost got killed because of him. What if the Higher plane of existence are the deities of emotion and Kratos will have to face these three deities throughout his journeys. in the first series Kratos faced anger, in the second he understood what hope is and maybe in the third he will face greed
after going through many of the theories in this comment section and also several other videos I think this one is my favorite
Well, when I saw that red vortex in Valhalla I thought that it was simply Tartarus, and didn't think about it any further
Same haha
The Vortex also looks like the Votex inside Pandora’s box (during cinematics when Hephaestus is explaining the box to kratos)..the camera pan zoomed inside the box you can see the same vortex
Amazing video and Theory as always and btw this is the 1st time I notice that there was a vortex above Kratos' home in GOW 2018 although I have an eye for details or that is what I thought I didn't notice it. Great work 👍
I think that valhalla and the higher planes of existence are connected in a deep way. I predict that valhalla was created first as a test of sorts for higher beings to determine wether they would be fit to rule then somehow it was cast out to the Norse pantheon.
Valhalla demanded a sacrifice to enter the higher tier stages and I predict this is why the vortex formed over kratos' house atreus was the sacrifice to the realm but just like valhalla kratos chose sympathy and refused the offer and angered the realm.
I believe the mural depicting kratos' death is still yet to come and will be near the climax of the story to use your analogy.
Atreus sacrifice kratos will be similar to doctor strange giving the time stone to Thanos to save Tony but by doing so saving the universe
Atreus will have the choice to sacrifice kratos to open the vortex to save the universe/pantheon or choose sympathy and sacrifice the pantheon instead.
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finally I can know what it is, welcome back Kap
God of War connected mythos theory (based off of Gnosticism):
Personally, I like to believe that in the GOW mythos, on planet Earth there are rifts in between the different pantheons, and these invisible rifts originate from the higher plane of existence (which is where the demiurge is contained by the Monac).
These rifts act as sort of mythological containers and separators. Each rift hold the unique geography, creation myths, spiritualities, magics and pantheons of each mythology. (This could also be why the rules of the Norse pantheon might not affect Kratos or Atreus).
{ Pleroma > higher plane > rift > physical universe (earth) }
When people expand in the name of their gods, they also expand the rift (and therefore influence and territory) of their specific mythology. This is why wars are fought between cultures, because each pantheon is trying to gain more territory and worshipers over other pantheons (this would be the demiurge influencing the physical world).
But most gods of these different pantheons are ignoring the possibility of peace, diplomacy and cultural exchange. This could allow all of them to grow simultaneously and achieve enlightenment.
This could be why the Monac is collecting worthy gods who show selflessness and are sending them to the higher plane. However, some gods in the higher plane fall to the influence of the demiurge. (because of their new found power) like Athena.
The higher plane of existence acts as a further test to see if the chosen gods are worthy of entering pleroma when the time is right.
You have a point because in gnosticism there are two gods you got yaldabaoth the evil creater god aka the god of the bible and you got the monad the divine conscious of which we are apart of because if you know what if the higher existence is us reached a state of enlightenment and I don't think morality matters it's not about becoming Worthy it about us achieving self-awareness of who we truly are it not about looking outside to find god you just have to look inward to realize that you are always enlightened don't look for enlightenment because you are already enlightened we all have the ability to become gods and goddesses we don't need to worship gods or look for any gods because we are god
@@JustinJulian-bq8vmthe "evil creator" is specifically the old testament
You do realize that the old testament god is yaldabaoth because in gnosticism the story of how the world is made is different than main stream religion the stories are being told from the perspective of Adam eve and Jesus and have you watched morgue official he talks a lot about gnosticism higher consciousness and knowledge
my little brother has his own theory about the vortex, he said it's a portal to fortnite. after he said that I smacked him on the back of his head.
Loved this theory dude! Merry Christmas to you and the family
It looks like the Spark of the World that Surtur fell into when Surtur became Ragnarok in the main game, except the one in Valhalla is red instead of blue.
The Spark of the World is where the realms came into existence, therefore the red version in Valhalla could be where everything ends; or becomes "non-existent". It could be the punishment for those who try to break the rules of the trials of lower Valhalla.
Which if that's what it is, it would make sense why Mimir and Sigrun were panicking when they saw it; and why Sigrun was punished by Valhalla too for saving Mimir and Kratos from that fate. Becoming non-existent is worse than simply dying or passing into a realm for the dead. There is no way to retrieve someone if they're erased from existence completely.
This makes perfect sense, and honestly I feel like it would be somewhat common sense to anyone who's played the game even just once.. I wonder why a GOW UA-camr couldn't have put this together?
@@TheQuadraticAttenuator
Thank you, but it's just my own head canon theory. But when I played this recent DLC, I immediately thought this red vortex looked like the Spark of the World from the main game.
Just a different color.
@@Kay_The_Coffee_Weirdoit looks nothing like it
This is your best theory so far for sure. Hard evidence, good connections and some good arguments. I think you might be right here.
I believe it was kind of obvious that it was baldur who blew the horn. They never wanted to revisit it in ragnarok/valhalla, and it is unlikely that they will do so in the future as the norse god of war is over. It could simply be baldur as he was the only other person who had an interaction with the world serpent.
Wasn't it angraboda that blew the horn?
Why would Baldr blow the horn?
i just have to say i watched all of your Valhalla streams and reactions for the sole purpose of seeing you react mimir saying higher plane
and it was worth it haha
Lets gooo. He always delivers my fav creator
Love this theory video! Hope you have a great Christmas kuba
Love your videos really makes you think about things! mind blowing stuff im so ready for the next game... And maybe more dlc? who knows! i need more!
There’s a pyramid a lot closer with actual detail on it in the Nephilim area the frozen zone in the new rogue like I found it right before I entered the skull door. I took a screenshot if you’re interested.
I think it would be cool if there was a DLC where we play as Faye against Thor, the two dueling, and at the end, Faye realizing what she had done, and soon after meeting Kratos for the first time, ending wiith a few lines of dialog just before their duel
i definetely see ur point, and it's giving me goosebumps
Why is that the coolest intro I’ve ever seen
Kratos ha already met primordials so the only thing left higher that is shared in several mythologies is Chaos. Its function and form is eerily similar across many myths including the base myth of most of the eastern hemisphere; Proto-Indo European.
if you focus on the stories mimir tells in this dlc you can tell that he is from folklore
Merry Christmas kuba from my family to yours 🎄🎁🎁🎁🎁
it's amazing how you went from hating the game to making in depth analyses of it!
Nice one, Kuba. I actually never noticed that vortex in 2018 game. That it's above Kratos' home. I thought it was the weather overall.
I just thought it was the Ginnungagap. Honestly I feel like you connect waaaay too many things to the higher plane, it's basically an obsession at this point lol
That’s what I also thought, these guys don’t know jackshit about mythology but create their own theory
Would A Primordial Force of Chaos and nothingness that spawned a cosmos of 9 realms not be in some way connected to a higher plane of existence?
@@korgclips868 still feels like Kuba is pulling tons of shit out of his ass, like the whole "the sky is red" and "good side vs evil side". I liked his higher plane theories when he linked it to gnosticism, but here it's just ridiculous
May sound stupid but I thought we were falling into Hades from god of war 1 when I first saw the red vortex
That was the only God in GOW 3 that didn't just die but Kratos succd his soul
I know one thing for sure that Kuba's theories come from the higher plane of expectations!
That's a realm where if you enter, no one and nothing can satisfy your expectations :)
And that's why he always gets disappointed.
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I AGREE
Kuba, @kaptainkuba your theories really impress me on how deep they are. even when you are making a vague video like now - it still gives a lot of of thoughts and ideas. i think you should think of trying to work at santa monica (or they should think of hiring you). i mean, with your theories you already made a whole universe for them, so it makes whole lot of sense to take you on board. and since you said that channel was not enough to support your living, maybe that could actually be a good solution for everyone. didn't you think about it?
Theory: Valhalla and Utangard or however it’s spelled are part of the same place. The Ascending Sands look similar to the Utangard scene, and it would explain why Odin couldn’t control Valhalla.
Ngl I thought this was a stream, although I do think athena I gow 3 is the same Athena but affected by the evils of pandora box. Good vid tho.
I'm sad we didn't see freyr in Valhalla
I just figured the vortex was the result of the gods of Asgard being real ticked off at the death of Magni, and Modi fleeing after his attempt at revenge. Or, it was the result of some power within Atreus activating as his nature fought within himself.
Im a simple man, I see Kuba upload I watch.
The Chain of Olympus in the background looked bit a lot longer than the one we saw in regular Valhalla, without the judges as well.
The vortex looks like one of the back ground in god of war 3’s prologue
Hey Kaptain Kuba been watching since 2018 about your theories and I absolutely love you theories and just you content as a whole. I was watching this video about god of war about deep looks into characters and their decisions. I'm hoping you find this youtuber's content interesting the youtubers name is "FatBrett" Again love your content!
Could it be Ginnungagap? Also the mask and the rift could also lead to it
Oh boy there's much more story ahead this is getting deeper and deeper i hope cory direct all the upcoming games
Well, it is his game...sucks David Jaffe is no longer apart of it.
Or is he??
@@andrewhenery8945 Cory was creative director for Ragnarok. Eric Williams directed. I think it was just too much work for Cory for the 2018 game and he basically split the work load with Eric for Ragnarok.
Great vid. I don't think that Valhalla was trying to trick Kratos into putting Mimir in the cage, as the point was that he was to put himself in there.
kratos really needs to get his wings back
Could u please make an updated video where u rank all bosses including Ragnaroks and valhallas bosses
Yea Valhalla baby, I'm dressed Rick!!!
It’s disappointing that Athena didn’t make an appearance in the dlc
Cory Barlog said the red storm was the world reacting to Atreus being sick
i was more surprised kratos was struggling a bit trying to break those bars. Those must've been rlly tough, esp since he has no reason to hold back here
Yes finally a theory video
I think that the concept of ascension to a higher existence which Athena manged to do somehow is inspired by a very similar concept in Stargate SG-1 which Cory Barlog is a fan of.
Vortex of Chaos i guess😉. Sigrun's wings was almost burn to crips if not from primodial flame.
How did the rest of the Valkiries died? Good topic for a new video.
I don't know if you'll see this but the same red spiral that happens in Valhalla and when appears above kratos house appears when Ares descends from the skies and when kratos kneels
I mean, even if it was a retcon it wouldn't be an issue since it's something revealed in interviews only
For the longest time I thought she was there for real and never doubt it for a second
Kratos even says "Athena, get out of my head"
Which isn't something You usally say when You're having ptsd, but You say that when someone try to mess up with your mind and You experienced it before, which Athena did in the Fallen God comics
I have a cool idea for a video unless you decide not to use this idea for one but... for the first episode of the god of war show they could use the flashback scenes of kratos and faye the last scene being the one near the end where kratos has the last dream of faye
It looked like the portal the leads to Tartarus to me.
I was so disappointed when atreus broke the mask. I thought we will get some answers or something , idk. I felt like it was a wasted potential. but hopefully they will do something with it in the future games
Maybe Atreus breaking that mask will end up causing him to have powers from it or similar to what the mask was supposed to contain
@@dethwolf890 the mask may be some sort of test from the gods in the higher plane of existence and when someone succeeds in that test (which atreus did when he didn’t accept the easy knowledge from the mask) they will reach out to him and bless him with powers or position in that realm. Idk maybe that could be the premise of the atreus game or im just reaching too hard.
That was literally the point. Atreus broke the mask because they didn't deserve to have it, not after everything Odin did to obtain it. All the answers will come in time, it's not important and we don't need to worry about it.
WHY people continue think the Cory barlog is not involved in Ragnarok? HE is a game director in ENTIRE santa mônica (include Ragnarok) If they aproved the things happen on Ragnarok they a fucked envolved right? Soo stop this narrative on Cory is not involved in the game because this is Full copium.
They are trying to defend cory when its all on him he is the one who quit as director because he was “tired” and everyone else was stuck with his vision
I finally begun my Berserker hunting, took four today. Also Marry Christmas to everyone and Happy New Year
that Athena ._. was hilarious
W theory Kuba
Every time I've seen this video the title has changed 3 different times
Bro the soundtrack on the background video! Please share ❤❤😤😫
Theory video
Considering faey could see the future and knew kratos was the factor for Odins downfall makes me wonder if she truly loved kratos or used him
She didn't know. She believed it herself. The giant's vision were that Kratos would die at Ragnarok. Faye believed he could change and make the right choices and live. She's the one that painted the worshipped Kratos panel on top of the one showing his death. I don't think Kratos would have really changed if her love had not been real.
While watching the video I noticed that some lines almost looked like Celtic Knots at the center of the vortex.
Cory might be thinking “f**k ,he just gave spoilers for the next big game”.😂😂😂
Red vortex in gow18? Blew me up on that one. Let kuba cook!!
Wow I noticed the red sky obviously but I never noticed that there was a red vortex 😮
I think they just forgot about blowing of the horn thing. Just as they forgot about Artemis.
@KaptainKuba
I have noticed something very interesting while playing gowr again, I have noticed that the dialogue suggests that the jörmungandr that fights with thor in the game is different.
Mimir: he didn't follow us from midgard, curious.
Kratos: The snake looks different.
Atreus: it is different
Pls check for yourself
The jörmungandr in midgard and the jörmungandr who fights in asgard are different
Nice
*The hands of death could not defeat me*
Maybe they were falling into the polar opposite of the higher plane, as we had seen that Valhalla is connected to the higher plane in some way. And whatever they were falling into happened to be red, which contrasts with the green we seem to have seen depicting the higher plane.
We already know of a Higher Plane. It makes just as much sense for a Lower Plane to exist as well.
I think the mask is chaotic neutral like the mask the movie i think it would be funny if they mention a man wearing the mask by accident and a dog
I was really hoping for a hades section since the first time we saw it the whole place was mostly red but still great dlc
I always just thought it was bauldr who blew the horn
In God of war 1 when Ares came down from Olympus he appeared out of a Red vortex from the sky
Baldur blows the horn in god of war 4 he even says it. He says he had a feeling hurting the big snake would bring you two. So he called the snake.
Never even noticed the vortex in 2018, there might be something to this going forward
it's also very similar to the vortex that Ares emerges from in gow1, when Kratos calls for his help. Even if he says them "coming down from Olympus". What if Ares had to do with the higher plane of existence👀
They were going to the part in Hellheim, where you cannot come back from
I have a feeling that we will end up going to Egypt next but the game will be a prequel, maybe telling the events of the comic, just noticed they gave us young kratos. So they have the model ready and done, maybe they can make the story a prequel that leads to him meting faye, Faye could be a boss fight/ end game boss, these guys love throwing these types of twist at us, like god of war Ascension, also what do you think about tyr being Loki from the future?
Won’t be a prequel
@@Jefftoucheslittlekids what do you think about Atreus traveling time and lands by somehow splintering the world tree with thruud and angraboda?
@@KinqOfHeartsmain spin off game
The last time they went prequel after a big closure title was Ascension after GOW3 and it wasn't well received. If all the game serves is to give more details to stuff that happened before without any real goal for the future then it would just be filler and not worth doing.
Intriguing, I personally highlight more the fact of dual sides and the repercussions of the horn in the future. I frankly believe that it is literally a reflection of the Self, like a symphonic clash between chaos and order or life and death and so on...Perhaps the realm of the absolute essence of existential archetypes in constant conflict and even beyond the wheel of the life of carma! But perhaps with the actions and legacy of Kratos they will begin or restart the divine plan! I wonder what temporal relativity parameters the next Saga will have with the other Phanteons Mythologies...
Another thing to note is that Red certainly symbolizes aggressive anger, alertness or danger. but also strength, passion and security. Basically the high planes of existence stand out for their purely dual colors beyond mundane understanding!
I think they were falling into the same thing Surtr fell into. The spark of the world.
I thought you were going to say that the one other place we had seen that red vortex was in the the space between where Sutr became Ragnarok. But it's convenient that you made the connection to the moment Kratos went home and got the Blades of Chaos, because, as Sutr noted, the Blades have primordial fire in them.
The red vortex, I believe, is the primordial: The realm from which all things originate. The green light, as Atreus notes when he is first shown the rift, is "knowledge" -- perhaps a mental primordial in contrast to the red physical primordial.
And it should be noted that the blue light is most prominent during the selfless death of a god: When Athena dies defending Zeus, when Thor is killed by Odin, and especially when Kratos attempts to kill himself and releases hope back into the world. This, the realm that surpasses both physical limitations AND the conventional logic of protecting one's own existence, I believe is the higher plane.
You said that the dialoge about the higher plain had to mean something but i dont think so because in the entire game it seemed like they create dialoge and plot points but dont think it through. Even in gow 2018 with the "who blew the horn". They just put ideas in the game because they think its cool or something but they dont think deeper about it. English isnt my firat language so i hope you understand what i mean.
Bro the problem is that there are too many plot holes that are not explored in depth, such as the mysterious mask that Odin had.
@@RealZtleg yes. And the things that made gow 2018 good arent as good in ragnarok
The red is probably the realm of if not Chaos itself
I looked at it for Tartarus. It looks exactly depictions of Tartarus in other mediums and everything Kratos sees was supposed to based on the individual.