The Queen's University Talk: The Rising Tide of Compelled Speech
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2018
- I was invited to Queen's University March 5 to give the inaugural lecture/discussion of the Liberty Lecture series, funded by Faculty of Law alumnus, Gregory Piasetzki (LLB 1980).
Dr. Bruce Pardy (law.queensu.ca/faculty-resear...) and I discussed the increasingly frequent requirements for compelled speech that characterize the Canadian sociopolitical landscape.
The entire event was, in a word, surreal. Initial controversy over its acceptability rose to the point where the Dean of the Law School William Flanagan and Principal of Queen’s Daniel Woolf wrote missives in defence of free speech (the former: bit.ly/2EQJDm3; the latter: bit.ly/2tJB8VB). The Queen's University "Human Rights Office" posted a link to the Levana Gender Advocacy Centre and Education on Queer Issues Project "active support" efforts during this event at their “Trans-Positive and People of Colour Positive Chill-In” in Dunning Hall, room 11, where there was coloring pages, music, food, and discussion.
The 900 or so people who attended (who comported themselves admirably and thoughtfully throughout) were subject to a continual 90-minute barrage of noise generated by the protestors, who leaped up on the stained glass windows lining the hall and banged continually on them, breaking one. Inside, we could see shadowy figures dimly outlined through the colored glass. The outside doors were barricaded. One protestor was caught on film saying "Lock them in and burn it down." The din was substantial and ominous, although it is much attenuated in this video, due to the nature of the microphones used, which were designed to pick up speech close at hand.
The protestor who broke the window was arrested, but not before she bit a policeman, attempted to kick the back window out of a police cruiser, and was found to be in possession of a garrotte, a particularly brutal weapon with no defensive utility whatsoever (bit.ly/2HoTDAu). The man who cursed so profoundly and eloquently near the beginning of the lecture accosted me and my crew after the talk, and yelled and cursed and threatened at close quarters during our 200-yard walk from the venue to the parkade.
No one who was at this event will forget it.
Not good. Not good at all.
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*"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar; you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."*
~ Tyrion Lannister.
Cringe.
@@Aaron-hq4bu how? It's a great quote and it suits this video.
@@p.a.w.sthetravelinggamer6750 "Look at me! Perennial truths about the complex basis of the parrhesia of Western thought make me think of quotes from a dumb Netflix series!" Not based.
@@Aaron-hq4bu Man, you are dense...
@@Aaron-hq4bu Does its source make it any less applicable? No. It does not.
"Hate is unacceptible", they wrote. Yet, their actions show hatred towards a man exercising the very freedom they claim they are promoting. Such irony.
It's unbelievable
yes
Sadly, this irony is lost on them.
@darthShadie, you assume those guys can detect irony!
ARTyrdom You're right. It's a great solution. And makes me thing of grey rock technique in dealing with narcs and toxic people. We don't react in the way they expect us to, we stay calm, and continue on without their approval or authority and they will stop due to our lack of attention to them.
I grew up in the USSR. My great grandparents were stripped of their wealth by the communists and they died shortly after from a broken heart. They left my grandma to fend for herself and her 5 younger siblings in 1939.
These people have no idea what they are ushering in. Perhaps they long for it...who knows?
Rivers of blood could again be spilled on our streets if these people come to power!
I left a communist country as a Vietnamese refugee and I have been saying the same things. Most Westerns have no clues.
No they are ushering in health care and other social programs. Think Sweden , Norway etc.
You might not agree with it and are free to vote how you wish.
@@robg4472 "No they are ushering in health care and other social programs. Think Sweden , Norway etc."
The modern left is not taking junkets to Scandinavia and praising them. They are doing so to Venezuela and Cuba, and did so to the Soviet Union before them. Venezuela is their model. Scandinavia is their fig leaf.
Digital Nomad who is going to Venezuela and Cuba?
@@robg4472 Hollywood figures and other leftist celebs: Sean Penn, Oliver Stone, Kevin Spacey, Danny Glover, Susan Sarandon, Benicio del Toro, Don King, Michael Moore
Political figures: Gregory Meeks, Jesse Jackson, Bernie Sanders, Al Franken, Chesa Boudin
Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar, Ro Khanna and Tulsi Gabbard have mischaracterized the protests against Maduro and condemned President Donald Trump’s widely supported moves to help end Maduro’s dictatorship.
Is this news to you? Chavez/Maduro has fallen out of fashion recently, but they were all the rage at least up to the time Chavez died, with many celebs attending the funeral. An electorate that forgets on command is not conducive to the preservation of freedom.
I am severely disabled. U.S. Army. Tears welled when Peterson said we struggle up the hill, with our "crutches" (!!!), toward the City of God. That's what we must do! It is our duty. Others are watching - and many need inspiration, example, encouragement and hands-on real help. When I'm in the fight with another disabled and their family, I forget about my limitations because I'm too damned focused on what's at the top of that mountain. A pleasure to go to a source where honor, duty, integrity, guts, and ingenuity still mean something.
God bless you and thank you for your service hero 🙏 ❤ amen
God bless you. Thank you for your service sir.
I too am a disabled veteran although ambulatory and I must tell you that I’ve never heard the thoughts you expressed said any better than you just stated. I am of the opinion and believe that each and every young Man in the U.S. should be compelled to serve 2 years upon graduation from high school as I believe it would instill in them the attitude you expressed. I grew up in a house where all males dating back to the Jacobite wars in Scotland have served under arms and are taught that life is many things but it is Duty Honor Country first and foremost right after a personal relationship with God Almighty. This belief has held me in good stead from childhood and will, I believe sustain me unto death. Thank you my Brother for your sacrifice in the service of our nation.
Thank you for your service Sir
@@vangyang1696 oh god. shut up. you don't care.
"That's the sound of the barbarians pounding at the gates."
Marxist Zombies
That's the quote.
that's what i thought when i saw the hands on the window. Scary..
It is interesting, at the end of the video they are blocking the door from anyone exiting... what do they want to do next, burn everyone inside? These people are violent and hateful.
Interesting that the "barbarians" are the mostly from the county's elite.
Where the Hell is security or police?
This is horrifying, it's like the zombie apocalypse trying to get into the church to eat the brains of the survivors
Brains! Yes, please try to get some brains in you!
I was half expecting Rick Grimes to show up and save the day.
Campus security was outside blocking the front doors, along with a couple of officers (at some point). Why the police didn't do anything when people started banging on the side windows, I'm not entirely sure about, maybe they didn't even know it was happening, considering the mob out front. Or they probably didn't want to get targeted by the media for supporting "hate speech" and wimped out.
Satya Nanda If brains were made out of dynamite, these protesters couldn't blow their noses.
LMAO
Imagine a world where you earn respect instead of having it imparted on you as part of your "I'm a victim" package.
Victimhood currency has turned women on to feminism and has destroyed families, communities, and even the possibility of happiness for women. Now they opt out for "education", which provides no skills or the promise of a job at the end of that "education", debt they can't pay back, and anger when they realize how useless they are. What they do o get is brainwashing that makes them incapable of being functional, handling every day life, being accountable, and most important, incapable of happiness.
For real
"Behaviour that would be out of place at a 4 year olds birthday party"
Priceless
🤣
How to beat Jordan Peterson in an argument. You bang on the windows, because you can't beat Peterson in an argument.
haha this made my day
hilarious, so true!
LOLOLOLOL
Because he speaks the truth, and the truth will out.
When the barbarians came to the walls...
...JBP called them narcissistic children and then continued with his planned activities undisturbed.
Jordan Peterson so popular that people are literally knocking at the windows to get in.
Tehemai L. Haha, this is funny, but sad at the same time.
🤣🤣🤣
Yep, that's pretty much cults in a nutshell
@@Bingewatchingmediacontent thank you for the stroll down memory lane. :)
🤣😂😂😁😃😆🤗😊😂
I'm in that audience. The whole thing was surreal
Looks like you had demons at the windows. It really does.
It is truly some mesmerizing footage I watch it every 6 months or so
Question for you: those two with the sign, after they left the stage they pulled out something and started spraying it at the crowd. Do you know what that was?
@@rainbowcoloredsoapdispenser pepper spray
@@ScaryTimeTravel no way! Are you sure?
JP's stuff is going to age beautifully.
“That’s pure narcissism at work by the way” -Jordan Peterson (the legend)
iPad what an opening eh
You're bloody well right it was
Those violent domestic terrorists need to just go home and clean their room!
Thats one way of thinking about it
JP is Spot on again.
That was very brave of Dr. Peterson to give a speech during the Night of the Living Dead.
JanstonCordell
Legend has it that thumping can still be heard echoing off the stained glass back and forth across the lecture hall.
Joe Absolutely Joe!
Andrew Bronee Ha ha! Haunted forever!
I love how when Antifa tried to take over that Sargon event, that one guy did not hesitate to start throwing punches. What a beast.
School shootings sound like a pretty nice idea at this point..
inside: people encouraged to think for themselves, take responsibility and ask questions
outside: one person with a megaphone says something, the audience repeats it
I don't care what the protest is, I think I'd rather be inside.
Give me an "A"!
Adults vs adult children.
Amen !
I really admire how brave the guy at 1:15:00 was in asking his question - he clearly isn't a confident public speaker, but he went for it anyway.
I agree, and good for him. All that matters is the content of the question.
Absolutely
Everyone seemed to also be patient and very curious about what he had to say.
Which I find more fascinating. Coming from a place where people would dismiss and pressure you if you were in that position
"You were born with freedom that's why its easy for you to spit on it" Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Damn. So real.
*drops the mic*
Leslie love is that the ex Muslim fgm victim who speaks out against pisslam?
Exactly Right
Leslie love Brilliant quote.
“That’s the sound of the barbarians pounding at the gates”
ua-cam.com/video/3WMuzhQXJoY/v-deo.html a red pill for women
To debile są zwykłe.
Don't you think that pounding noise adds "importance" to Dr. Peterson's words?
If I was producing a movie of this, I would definitely want that sound of barbarian opposition.
It's great!
It makes his case for him; what better proof of the existence of a dangerous Leftist mob threatening liberty.
Lmao 😂 👍
21:50
So incredibly proud to call Dr. Peterson a Canadian 🇨🇦 and what a brilliant, articulate group of young people at Queens University! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@Melissa Oestreich ... nope, no sarcasm ... I was referring to how well Dr. Peterson & the students ‘inside’ just carried on and ignored the idiots outside the building. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
As. awoman how is it possible for you to support someone holding his views?
@@unknownkingdom can you expand on the exact views that you're referring to, possibly with references to him stating those views?
he is one of the very few canadians that i consider being almost american
I just watched enough of this video - so far - to be totally embarrassed that Queen's University, in my home town, allowed this guest of theirs to be harassed to such an extent, and so persistently throughout the evening. As Dr Peterson said to this effect, "How disrespectful to attack an event that so many people put so much work and effort into; appalling." Total understatement of course, but as simple as that. How on earth did Queen's not know that this would happen. The MC actually mentioned the security staff as having put so much effort into the event. I'm sorry, but they should be sacked forthwith. Even after the protests began - and I've only watched a short snippet - there was no sign of security to any effect - imagine - in Belfast a shortage of effective security!!
I sincerely hope that no one I know even remotely took part in such a shameful attack. I can only imagine that the attackers are so afraid of those they disagree with that they simply have to descend into childish tantrums with their hands over their ears repeating, "No! Don't say that! No! Don't say that, it's not true, it can't be true! And if it is true I won't be able to handle it!"
I feel like I should say a lot more but words fail me as to the logic or the purpose.
PS - I take my hat off to the trans person in these comments who was courageous enough to say that Jordan Peterson was reasonable in his presentation - thank you - that's how we get things done! There is hope.
' ..no sign of security to any effect - imagine - in Belfast a shortage of effective security!!' It wasn't Queen's University Belfast, it was Queen's University, Kingston, Ontario, Canada.
@@bendigeidfran1282 I know; I realised that a few minutes after posting. Embarrassing! Queen's Belfast is better though!
The staff were complicit with the mob
"There's nothing worse than a real conversation, except the war that you have if you don't have the conversation"
Damn.
Yes. damn. Wisdom that is hard to hear.
This is how Peterson's stayed married, he'll tell you! ;P
Like in the Sum of all Fears?
Good remark. Thanks
I support peaceful protest but that crowd should have been dispersed by police a long time ago. Banging on fragile windows and attempting to trap people in is not peaceful.
I haven't even watched the video yet but just from reading the description I know someone said, "Lock them in and burn it down". That's a damn scary threat, whoever said that deserves to be arrested if they weren't.
Baton rounds FTW.
Dank Cat I wouldn't mind if they got ht by a bus
It's hilarious that they claim to oppose tyranny while circling and physically threatening whomever they happen to identify as 'other'.
One was actually arrested for breaking one of the windows, and they found a garrote in her backpack. Some of these people are legitimately deranged.
Thank goodness this man recovered.
The pounding on the windows is incredibly infantile, JP is absolutely correct in saying that they should be ashamed of their behavior. All of this shouting down and shutting down of open discourse is a clear example of fascism. As mentioned many, many times, the irony is entirely lost on these activists. Ugh, the ending was so infantile.
there is no longer any shame....that is the problem.
wait 10 years and theyll be cringing at the people they were
@@jupit3r131 yeah, but will our country still be free in 10 years - not sure if we can wait that long. That's the problem...
It's not infantile. It works. People like JP won't back down, but most of the people sadly will.
@@damian_ski Indicating that this behavior works in oppressing free speech does not make it less of infantile behavior. At the very least it is shameful. It is disgusting what is being presented around the country. Large groups of "adults", screaming loudly, shouting down the lecturers and pounding on the windows, because they don't like what they hear and they do not want anyone else to hear . What I find the most disturbing is how these misbehaving juveniles cannot understand that they are practicing severe fascism.
A very well thought out argument professor, now lets go to the opposition for their counter-argument- *BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG*
The Channel Fadge - *SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP*etc.
Only argument they have, they don’t even know why.
Legend.
They’re trying to do Morse code!
**RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE**
The Channel Fadge Im shocked how they saying Peterson is spreading hate or hating other people. Like they were not inside they have no idea what he was talking about and how far it was from hate speech.....
my favorite line was where he said something to the effect of "i might be wrong, but you're not going to stop me from figuring out whether or not I am"
Rich Mahogany I think what you're talking about went more like: I don't know that I'm doing the right thing but I'm not going to let anything stop me from finding out what that (the right thing) is.
2021 here. Looking back to a prophetic lecture.
9:47 with how calm everything was, I wasn’t expecting things to just go from 1 to 100 so fast.
Each time the SJW's protest Dr. Peterson, he sells another 500 books.
I read his book. It changed me. My change got my wife and my father to read his book.
I might even manage to get my sister to read it. Probably not, but one has to aim high...
SlocketSeven I just purchased his book today. I haven’t been this excited to read in awhile. What can I expect from this book?
Since its on the best sellers list. I would say add one more zero
You can expect lobsters! Rules for living your life in a manner that will make it meaningful. A fair amount of talk about the significance of the stories in the bible, and how they show us how to live our lives, and what happens when we don't follow the right path (It's not proselytizing though). Why cleaning your room is the first step to a life that is under your control. Parenting advice. Some tragic personal stories from peterson's life. How to be a bit more dangerous, and why that will prevent you from being evil. Why you should tell the truth, always, or at least not lie.
All sorts of things you already know, but have never been able to put words to, so you can define those things, and truly understand them.
+SlocketSeven which book?
What a strange spectacle. There are people inside having a calm discussion about society, and there are people outside making incoherent noise and banging on the doors and windows like zombies. Who can watch this and think, "these sincere and articulate people have clearly thought a lot about this and are making good points, but I think I'm gonna go with the zombies on this one."
coffeeandlifting exactly
That's the problem. They're ideologues. They don't think. They eat up the 'truth' their leaders and 'teachers' feed them and ignore anything that contradicts that 'truth'.
right....but, being logical and intelligent isnt in vogue these days, its not a hashtag that the media can grab and run with
coffeeandlifting so true. It's unreal really. 🤣
Brilliant description: The zombie apocalypse is here. Seriously.
1:05:33 "so what you're saying is" what an absolute madlad who said that in the crowd lol
Lol
Lmao cathy
If I made JP laugh I think my life would be complete.
@@JukesMcGee
Imagine if people were to start mailing him jokes and "witty" banter in the post. He would feel like banterclause.
Anyone cringing yet?
Whoever you are who can't sleep tonight, is tired or sad, believe that there will be tomorrow that will light up your beautiful days.
You just need to endure a little more, a little more, and a little more ...
Thank you for being patient, thank you for being able to survive. And as you read this, promise yourself that you will be able to get through your toughest days in the future.
Promise to keep smiling, no matter how you are ...
You deserve to be happy :)
Imaging being part of the group outside disrupting an extremely civil conversation, screaming like maniacs, and genuinely believing the people inside are the oppressors. It baffles me how people can be so blind.
Unfortunately you cannot rationalize the irrational actions of the mentally deranged.
not blind lets call it by what it is stupid oppressive people.
It hurts genius trans people making them look bad when most of them aren’t at all.
None so blind as those who will not see
@@FrankTheTank7575 Your response is insanely sharp! Greetings & mabuhay from tropical Philippines!
"That's pure narcissism by the way" .......I love this guy !!!
They should have arrested every single one of those hooligans outside.
10 years
Nah just a big ass fine along with that walk of shame at the end of their tantrum
I am a brown, Muslim Canadian man - and I love Mr. Jordan B Peterson, I understand his point, I don't always agree with him 100% of the time, but I still love him and pray for his good health
you forgot one, most important political identity which you are: a human being
22:17 "And there's not much difference between knocking on the doors and knocking on you"
That's EXACTLY right. Not a laughing matter.
Gave me chills the first time I heard it.
So true
I would like to thank the ridiculous SJW of Toronto, for making such a fuss of Dr Peterson’s stance on compelled speech. I saw him on the news, found him on UA-cam n twitter, and have been completely engrossed in his knowledge n brilliance ever since. I am forever grateful.
B Vox did you hear yourself?
Oh the irony! 😆
From Israel,and I also wouldn't have heard of him if it wasn't for all of these horrible SJW's.
@24601 Love your handle, Jean.
There is no louder videographic irony possible than what this video portrays in its display of unscripted debauchery contrasted with glory. Each side is laid bare for what each side intrinsically is.
The respectful, informed, dialogue of the speakers and audience has my greatest admiration. Well done!
Only Plato could have wrote such masterful irony
I am extremely grateful to the students of Queens University for bringing my attention to Mr Peterson. I have checked him out on UA-cam and while previously I would have to admit that I would not have approved of his views and opinions I now find that I do. His lectures and interviews are very entertaining and insightful. Consequently I recommended them to my friends, acquaintances and colleagues - most of whom were roughly centre left - now they are centre right - all because of the actions of a few boneheaded students.
This feels like an historical event.
Indeed. Intellect vs. SJW barbarian zombies is just patent.
That's how it felt to be there! The video does not at all capture the anxiousness felt in the room from that incessant banging and breaking of the windows. But Peterson and Pardy really persevered!
Violence marks deeper impression therefore historic feel. Novelty that will become nostalgia.
you should see the mcmaster U video. It is powerful.
This feels like a staged event like everything else. Shooting at school blablabla, nuclear attack blablabla, Right vs left blablablabla. It's all bull.
This is so intense. I felt like I was watching a horror or suspense movie. Or 1984. The quiet, pensive, attentive audience sitting peacefully in the pews of this beautiful old building (church?) while the wisdom of JBP echoes through the rafters. Then suddenly, like drums in the deep, a knocking and banging slowly builds and builds and yet no one budges inside. Their determined stares fixed on the sound of reason in the room. Their yearning for truth not wavered by the possible doom outside. Shadows fill the stained glass windows and blurred figures move into view and eclipse the beauty of the ancient glass panes, as the hammering increases. The similarities of the protesters to “barbarians at the gate” or the “subdue the free thinkers” as in 1984, Equilibrium, or that Mac computer ad, or even metaphor of mindless zombies banging on the door is filled with irony as they shout “lock them in, burn it down.” This is a lecture that should be shown in schools to educate future generations. Indescribably important and metaphorical. Amazing job everyone inside. Clean your room. Speak the Truth. Slay the Dragon. Save your Father. Bring home the Treasure. ❤️
Well said. The building is Grant Hall - named after Principle George Monro Grant (A preacher and political advocate for Canadian unity in the latter half of the 19th century). The building is where Queen's has its convocation - and some exams. During WW1 it was a military hospital. It's a historic building, and it's a shame the stained glass window was broken.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Monro_Grant
It's good to have a big brain
Lizzie Meerkat
Very very nice! Well said my friend!
SO WELL written! LOVE this
Amazing XD
"This conversation is about intelligence"
Way to call out every SJW ever.
To think at this point in time, Peterson had 2 years of this, and worse, ahead of him.He went on to tour the world with his book and change peoples lives for the better.ThAnk You JP🙏💜. Great to see you returning to the public arena.
Holy shit...
This is getting properly sinister.
This shit is legendary. All at that anger and pounding at the windows combined with the speech really hits it home. These people are an actual existential threat who will absolutely use violence to achieve their ends. Can't remember the last time a video gave me chills like this.
Indeed, I remember documentaries and films about the cold war, or other chilling times of the past, but I never though I would see something so alarming happening right now. It is surreal.
Well said good sir.
Well I guess we know what happened to the silent majority back in 1930s Europe and Maoist China. Never think it won't happen again, human nature ain't gonna change.
Scary
JoeInJapanDotCom bro I know yo
“That’s pure narcissism ...”.
the university professor or representative was gold in this. he showed how you conduct yourself in a civil conversation and didnt allow those outside forces to influence his speech in order to appease the loud minority. a+ to this moderator.
I'm confused. were the protesters there to protest or to prove the speakers point?
Christian Gerber .those protesters make mealtime with jackals and hyenas look like high tea with the Queen.
Mana Montana yes
TMW you want to rebel but end up looking like a prop he brought from home for dramatic effect 😂
That's the way cosmic evolution shows it face, it's where you can see the symmetrical nature of seemingly opposing forces coming back together=) Resulting in a cosmic joke hahahaha
Brilliant .. Thanks Mana !
I can hear Cathy Newman shouting from the outside "So you're saying?"
😂🤣😂 #HearHear
LOL
😆😂
😂😂😂😂
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His ability to stay calm all through is something beyond inspiring. Learning...
The great Thomas Sowell comments in his book, "The Quest for Cosmic Justice", that the ability to analyze, question, and critically think ends at the point a claim to moral superiority begins.
Jordan Peterson is a great gift to our times. So thankful for his voice and courage and for Bruce Pardy.
The pounding on the windows only serves to drive Peterson's points home. He couldn't have scripted it better. They are playing into his hands at every turn. They are beating out the rhythm of their own defeat.
Paul Stringini
Unfortunately, everything seems to indicate the defeat will come only after most of us are dead. I cannot see it other way when I watch what's happening.
"beating out the rhythm of their own defeat" - nice line.
Bakavasa, I have seven sons, so the future that I will never see is important to me. Even if it takes that long, it is sufficient for me if they are ultimately defeated.
Right? I almost thought he hired them to prove his point.
JP is right that they are essentially throwing tantrums.
“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.”
Abraham Lincoln
Yep exactly: he was right!
Wow this speech even has its own drum track!
Dr Pardys contribution is also appreciated. Anyone who thinks and speaks clearly on the free speech issue reassures the public.
The audience's favourable reaction is clear to see.
As an ex SJW, whenever he points out how silly it all is i am prone to laugh nervously lol
Im glad thats not my life anymore, i feel like im happier since i let that go.
I did protests, organized events and all that, from the ages of 16-18. I didnt even know how to make a resume but i was out there shouting nonsense about politics i thought i understood. It turns out its easy to convince a teenager they know better than everyone else lol.
I had an interest in politics and social issues but instead of being encouraged to study and learn the basics of it, i was taught to lead chants and organize mobs.
I know enough now to know i dont know everything.
And I now value a long, tiring debate over a screaming match any day.
I know that this was posted a while ago, but it always warms my heart when people make the conversion to a more rational view. To your story, I say bravo and welcome. I do have a question, however, on the off chance that you see this. My question being, what made it click for you? To leave the SJW type of behavior behind? I think it's important to gain some insight from someone who was actually a part of that type of that movement. Not to mention I have a friend that is teetering on going full SJW. I want to keep her rational, the way she always seemed to be. If there is any way to keep her interested in debates rather than screaming matches, I would like to hear it.
Congratulations! Knowledge about lack of knowledge is the start of life-time journey through land full of questions and answers which can easily lead to another two or three fundamental questions which of at least one can answer for any further questions connected to exactly this one answer, like a drop in ocean of relevant factors and biases. Good luck!
Same story for me.
That was very brave of you to share this!! These are moments that give me hope! Thank you very much for sharing!
Warcorn Sugarfart That is so great as well as inspiring to hear! I'm very happy for you!'
The furious shadowy figures hammering at the stained glass is too perfect and terrifying a metaphor for what's going on in the larger picture. But here not only a metaphor. Absolutely eerie. Like a nightmare. A moment when metaphor and real life overlap and align as JP would say.
VanilNoir cheers! Collecting Some of the most beautiful moments of live opera recorded is my goal and since they are hard to get hold of marking them available to all. Glad you enjoyed!
"The furious shadowy figures hammering at the stained glass" is like an image from a dream. Spooky.
David Fideler yes absolutely. Like I said, a nightmare.
Great moments of opera -not just trying to break through the glass, but trying to break through your ability to think freely.
Make no mistake: These communists want us dead
When Peterson talks of the great thinkers in his lectures, I can't help but admire him for being one of those voices for this and many generations to come.
People like Jordan Peterson do not come along very often, not all will agree with him but we should still listen and open our selfish minds to the possibility that we might be wrong about some of our assumptions, not only about him but about our society and the individual freedoms we should not try and strip each other of.
Sound engineer and cameramen are on point 👌
note that JP has no notes
Jesus, that's right! The man speaks from his mind and his heart with such clarity as if a whole army of thinkers wrote his speech for weeks! I find it sad that someone would try to violate other people right to speak.Those kids should respect this man even if they don't agree with him.
@@moonwalkdreamer: First, they would have to be taught the meaning and value of respect... and then the meaning and value of man. That's a tall order for these kids.
Jordan knows his shit!
I noticed that immediately because I used to teach college classes. And let me tell you, what he is doing, doing his presentations with no notes is only a testament to his superior intellect and ability to make sound value judgements. Doing a presentation, especially one drawing so heavily on scholarly endeavors is difficult. You have to know your material really well, which entails remembering the most relevant material that the presentation or conversation calls for, be able to choose from among the many that your mind offers up, and last be able to present it in the right words for your audience. So you need to remember, choose, present. So, he is doing it over and over throughout any given talk like a hundred times! I have the utmost greatest appreciation and thus respect for Dr. Peterson.
Noted.
"Pure narcissism at work' - professional diagnosis was given that day.
For free too
JP: "The Nazi's were terrible."
Protesters Outside: "OMG, he's a NAZI!"
JP:....
The people hitting the windows outside reminds me a classic zombie movie
Dr. P is a miracle worker. Banging on those windows is probably the most exercise those people have seen in years.
tieltavisvt lol...so true.
tieltavisvt hahahahaha
That's what its always been about: an exercise ruse. Glad to see someone tackling issues media won't touch.
😂😂
OMG! HAHAHA I've snorted all the soft drink I was drinking on my keyboard... well played! XD
Nothing says success like "Yes, I'm free at 2 pm on Monday to protest Free Speech!"
I'll bring you facts and logic, don't let it hurt your feelings: Jordan Peterson is an uber status quo, pro capitalist, who believes no axioms are possible without God, in Jungian pseudoscience, who thinks "intellectuals have been perverted", who's an in-the-closet Christian, who hangs out with climate deniers and denies global warming, who loves retweeting White Supremacists (and debunked global warming blogs), who thinks all postmodernism and taxonomy is a Marxist conspiracy, who can't handle taxonomy itself (too much chaos! Must retreat to simpler times!), who believes in cultural Marxism (an old antisemitic con), who repeatedly courts the alt right and Trumpites, who "struggles to find things of value in Islam" which is a "naturally warlike religion and whom feminists defend because they subconciously want to be dominated by men", who won't touch the fact that contemporary neocolonialism (oft waged by hyper Christians) is deliberately thwarting secularism in Middle Eastern nations by arming and funding islamo fascists and proxy terrorist groups (all for private profit), who thinks marriage should be kept sanctified from gays, and that sex should be enshrined in marriage (outside of marriage women will get raped), who misunderstands the Pareto law in an attempt to "naturalize" exploitation and poverty, who has a wrong and cartoonishly simple understanding of history and economics, who has no understanding of how money is created under capitalism, who can't tell the difference between John Wheeler's Participatory Anthropic Principle and the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, who got famous for overreacting to a law which wasn't a law, who echoes the hysteria of trans-medicalist groups, criticises "poor methodology" while belonging to a field which epitomizes it, who would "oppose gay marriage if its what leftists want", who can't handle any contemporary findings in neuroscience or with regards to hard free will, and who behaves like a hilariously cranky old Republican or traditionalist.
LOL. problem with it all is productive people are usually too busy to counter them.
"I'll bring you facts and logic": a bunch of, mostly unfounded, name calling.
JordanShapiro BenPeterson there was exactly zero logic and about 4 facts in that entire screech. I seriously hope that was copypasta and you didn't actually waste time to write that
Dick Boehner It was, he/she's copy-pasted it in most of the top-rating comments.
I love the way he said he wasn’t sure he was right, but he wouldn’t let someone get in the way of him figuring out what was right. He’s defending independence and freedom of thought and speech to promote mental resilience and strength not just in his life, or your life or the lives of the people who oppose him, but in everyone’s lives. What a worthwhile occupation. It linked straight in to what he was saying about treating yourself with respect and thereby realising that all people matter in the same way that you do. Then you can begin to behave properly towards the world and the world will behave properly towards you.
As anew Canadian from Africa,Dr Peterson makes me proud to be Canadian.
Dr Peterson is a national Treasure
“That’s the sound of the barbarians pounding at the gates”
Gave me chills. I was surprised that they didn’t try to storm into the building. Amazing talk the whole thing I felt was very profound.
They are not brave enough, or strong enough, or backed up enough to do it - still. That's exactly the point.
Conversely though; if you were a Roman slave, the thunderous noise from the hooves of the horse's ridden by the horde armies of Attila the Hun as they pounded at the gates of Rome, might have sounded like music.
I very much used to be a SJW. It felt good, feeling morally superior to most, to feel justified in jumping down people's throats, because they said the wrong thing, or because I took the worst possible interpretation of their words. But seeing videos like this opened my eyes. Seeing people get shouted down, seeing a conscious effort to eliminate freedom of speech. It's horrendous. I'm glad that I graduated college, and started living in the real world.
nice job thinking for yourself. I'm hoping my daughter doesn't go down that path.
Cheers to your wonderful transition.
We’ve all probably been there. It’s how we were indoctrinated. Btw I think you’re in for a rude awakening in the real world. Every Top 2000 corporation in North America have a diversity departments that actively seek to hire people that are not white males (the pure definition of legal racism) and diversity purchasing departments (meaning they actively buy and support black, minority, LGBT companies first and receive bigger bonuses for doing so). In addition if you work at any company you will go through sexual harassment training which sounds forthright in its theory but when you get into it you will find that going to lunch with 2 male friends is sexual harassment and sexism because you didn’t invite a female colleague....and you may have discussed something at lunch work related that excluded her, or a gay person, effectively instilling your white male privildge. In addition you will be given sensitivity training, explaining to you that it literally doesn’t matter what you say, someone has the right to be offended by it and you will face repurcussions for it if they raise a complaint to HR.
Be smart you’re in for a massive ride my friend.
Welcome 🙏
@@rogerc23 It's all right there in Orwell, man. Newspeak. Communism. Totalitarianism. And I use these words carefully, believe me.
I remember watching this live.Chilling sound of the windows being rattled. Dr. Peterson wasn't rattled a bit. Such poise under duress. So inspiring.
Jordan has helped me. I think and feel well now when I imagine my self and others as LIFE. I value life presently being within. Without life is a not Being , I would have nothing of any value without life within my self experience now being imagined. I am now alive, I value Life. I remember feeling Grateful for every breath within feeling a constant sense of appreciation for Air. I enjoy watching myself change my life time experience just simply focusing on Being within my own best Behavior.
What Jordan Peterson started is something tremendous. He has made it “cool” for young people to emerge themselves in intellectualism, instead of worrying about Katy Perry’s next hit song. Peterson is truly an intellectual rockstar.
Bigsid320 oh god.
Around 22:25 Mr Peterson makes the point we ought to all realize by now: "..the protestors - more often than not - don't even know what it is they're protesting.."
That seems to be the hallmark of anything radical, you lose sense of any nuance or shades of grey. Oh he's discussing something that's vaguely related to transgender rights because of bill c-16?! Then it must be he doesn't care about transgender people, and neither do any of his followers! So it's either black or its white, there's no chance that he's discussing something in the middle somewhere. And if it triggers their emotions or challenges their virtue signalling, then it's automatically evil!! That's the logical fallacy of radical leftism in a nutshell, they judge the truthfulness of something by their initial emotional reaction to it. So they're a SLAVE to their emotions, they won't even investigate whether something is true or not or what shade of grey it might be, pitiful way to live really.
The external shots of them holding signs saying things like ‘Hate is Unacceptable’ whilst exhibiting it, ‘Stop Bigotry and Intolerance’ whilst doing it, and chanting ‘Stop White Supremecy’ to no one, shows very clearly that they have absolutely no clue what it is they’re doing, nor why.
"i dont necessarily think what im doing is the right thing, but im not gonna let anyone stands in the way of me trying to figure out what the right thing is." words! 👏👏
I appreciate how the metal bindings support the glass frame, I am up to the 30 minute mark and still the glass windows have not fractured. William Morris and his Arts and Craft movement, should take some of the credit for this!
Man, we've hit a new level guys.
Listen to what the man is saying, you can hardly call that racist, or hate speech. He is talking about YOUR right to speak your mind, analyzing Capitalism using historical thinkers, and being even about it. Jordan Peterson reminds me of the way Robert Heilbroner writes, he is balanced!
And, at the same time - at the same time - his talk is being called hate speech.
We're at a new low guys, really.
Miguel Velasco There should be a class that gives students like that a transcript of Peterson lectures and has them highlight hate speech. Then they have argue against each line they highlighted without appealing to a feelings oriented defense.
Hahahha that's probably the most difficult job I the world for an SJW! I'd pay good money to see this!
AudioGardenSlave, wow. This is actually a very good idea.
AudioGardenSlave your username deserves its fair share of likes
Jordan Peterson is like a great philosopher mix with Mr rogers.
Criminal damage to a listed building. I look forward to the court case.
I am with you mojobaj01. Private property would act like it has some worth.
The Canadian government is on their side their crimes will go unpunished probably
But who did it?
Wow that shows premeditation to start trouble too.
MrOoglebog More like premeditation to murder :-(
Dr. Peterson is an absolute professional. My anxiety is up and I’m just watching this on you tube! The fact that he can focus in on the lecture in spite of all the hate and distractions is inspiring.
It’s almost like Peterson brought the protestors as an exhibit to demonstrate his point by theatrics! They played their roll well, point received effectively!
Am I watching a discussion on the freedom of speech or the next episode of The Walking Dead? Hard to tell.
The hopelessness I felt because of the students outside of the building was eventually overcome by the hope and optimism I felt because of the students inside. So many great questions.
I’d like to thank everyone in the room who has not devolved into the hysteria we see outside. They would prefer that we lost our sanity and that our society would fracture into the nonsense we see. So by sitting here being as patient as you are this is how we keep our Academy this is how we keep out society. Thank you. 55:17 - 55:37
Nothing more can be said.
I didn't notice it earlier but now that i saw this video i realize why i got 60% on my essays in high school and in university when i had to write my thoughts about government and topics of that nature. The compelled speech that they mentioned happens when a teacher grades essays in terms of how well it lines up with their ideological thinking, has been showing itself in schools since like 8 years ago at least in my experience looking back.
True story: My mom who is 80 years old does online surveys, and has done this for a few years. She once was taking a survey which asked many political questions and she answered from a conservative viewpoint. When she reached the end she got a message stating that she was incompatible with the survey.
Fascinating- on the inside of the building is a man with a beautiful mind- gently, kindly teaching what he believes is the best for society as a whole. After years and years of experience and study he humbly comes, admitting he doesn't have all the answers but willing to share what he has learned after a lifetime of study.....on the outside of the building is a mob.... who are mostly young, with little to no experience- little education and shockingly -some aren''t even sure of their own identity... and yet in spite of this they are out to silence one of the great minds of our time. Inside the building is inspiration and enlightenment - outside is an angry mob stirred into a frenzy... banging windows piling up garbage cans and chanting .... because they are barbarians who have no better way to communicate.... keep up the good work Jordan.... i wish i could have been there to hear you speak.
At worst Dr. Peterson is telling a cautionary tale about being careful where you tread. This is enough to threaten the extreme left, who, sadly and obviously, is about as thin skinned as a protozoa.
Unfortunately, there's nothing as much fun as raising a little self-righteous hell.
Well said!!!
@@svetik1587 I agree!
Very well said! SJW = The New Bolshevik Thuggery.
I always get the sense, listening to Dr. Peterson, that he's always on the verge of crying or collapsing emotionally with the weight of what he is saying, or that he is on the verge of giving up the honorable fight. Keep fighting, Dr Peterson, and know there are thousands, if not millions, are behind you.
The sense that he tires at times? Definitely. Personally, I don't see him on the verge of giving up, though. Hope he keeps doing this for as long as he can.
His view counts say that millions are behind him
What??!!
1:12:14-1:13:55....what incredible words! Thanks for that Dr PEterson.
I grow more frustrated by these situations by the day. I’m from the UK and I would say all ready conservative people are out numbered 10 to 1 even though the Conservative party are in power at the moment.
Each day I learn and each day I grow more able to fight this epidemic of stupidity! Won’t be long now until I have the confidence to argue with enough ammo behind me to be able to compete. People need to start to speak back and fight back so we can at least have sensible debates.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift
Yes!
To whoever was responsible for the filming and editing of this event: Bravo.
“...behavior would be out of place at a 4 year old’s birthday party.” Classic Peterson.
Don't forget the audio. Thank you.
All my respect to Dr Peterson for enduring such a disgraceful manner of being disrupted. He remained calm and stable, kept his track of thoughts and delivered an eye-opening speech.
I deeply love this man. The law professor is very admirable as well here. I viewed this 2 years ago and again today. Peterson’s direct rebuke to the screeching toddlers is both beautiful and ominously foretelling.
That poor beautiful building....
Rather telling which group treats the building with respect and for the purpose it was actually intended .................
The early bird gets the worm!! Let's just say I've seen this state of affairs coming for a long time.
I know people usually say that the people who listen to Dr. Peterson are young, white men but just by looking at the crowd here, I see quite a diverse audience. So again, this video completely dismantles the argument that ONLY young, white men follow Dr. Peterson. And this is coming from a young, Asian woman who has followed Dr. Peterson since 2016 :)
40 mostly white mom from very poor ancestors my generation the first to attend Universities much less graduate.
I think rumor started because at first he had only UA-cam which is mostly young men. Or was. More of us women are getting on now. Sadly so many are blinded by this identity politics.
I think that is because his views are, at this very moment in time, really speaking to people in that group the most. but that doesn't mean that it doesn't speak to other types of people aswell, maybe not as strongly but nevertheless it does.
that white male audience assumption is also brought into focus by the fact that he fights against the so called SJW movement, which is known to state that white males should shut up and stand back, that's one of their core ideologies, that while males and their ideas should be ignored in favor of every other group.
that's why I think that this idea exists, that he only has white male followers. and that also just shows once again that these people are bigots and they don't even realise it, or they have a very twisted definition of that term.
they group up people and act like all of the people in a group are the same. a disgusting thought but in their twisted minds it is just and caring.
they think all transgender people are the same and are baffled by the thought of some of them supporting Peterson's ideas... I bet they would be shocked that you, an Asian woman does too, because to them all asian women are one group, and as a group you should resent his views.
back in the day we called that racism or bigotry, now they redefined these words so they don't fall under these terms, when in reality they do. and then they tried to force the public to accept their new definition of these words so they can be the good guy
I am a 62 years old Asian woman and I have be following Dr. Peterson for two years.
I was a bit disappointed because I rarely see any young black men at his events and I spotted one in this video so that was nice.
30yo girl here (european if it matters), can't get enough free hours of my day to consume all the JBP content available :)
I've been a lifelong democrat having come of age in the Kennedy era. I've never had deep involvement or interest in politics except to notice that my life generally got better when a Democrat was in office, underscored by the shady characters of Nixon, Reagan, Bush Jr. and of course the latest Republican installment in the U.S. All of that said, I've followed the endless so called liberal conversations and media since 2016 and have experienced no small amount of resistance to being considered a liberal and nothing more, as if I've personally signed off on things I do not agree with at all. Watching and listening to Jordan Peterson has been my first introduction to the opinions of someone from the other side of the proverbial fence who speaks with deep intelligence and such breadth of knowledge on so many things. It's been so thought provoking to hear his views on all things, including this issue of mandated speech - and his thoughts on gender. All of that said, and to my point on this issue, I've been increasingly mystified by the enormous and relatively sudden heat on the politics of gender coming from so many circles. How did that happen? I've wondered why the furor over what is actually a very small segment of the population. It took decades for even some recognition of gay marriage and then suddenly, it seems, we're starting to legislate the use of words to address gender so as to not hurt feelings. Who or what is driving this? Seemed to me there HAD to be a monied force behind the push for the fantastic blurring of genders and sex. Nobody ever mandated calling women Ms. instead of Miss. Why not? Didn't single women get their feelings hurt when called "Miss"? Even though I reject most conspiracies, "just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean there's no one out to get you." I think it is pretty clear that there are forces who would be thrilled beyond means to bring down the big dogs of democracy on the planet, and those forces have money and access to nefarious means. There are many avenues to stoke radicalism the grooming process is pretty simple if one understands even a smattering of psychology. This talk and especially the last few minutes showing the crowd outside is a chilling example of how radicalized the extreme left is; they are not even responding to what he has said about mandating speech, vs. their imagined attack on genderism et al. Jordan Peterson's ideas give me hope and validates a lot of my secret, silenced thinking.
The fact that stuff like this is happening at QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY is soooo shocking to me that I can't even believe it.
There was a nightmarish quality to that ongoing protest. Extremely dark threatening behviour. Jordan Peterson a class act and not so easily derailed.
Where is the Police in Canada? Isn't it their duty to cease such madness?
Scorptice The description says police were called and some "protesters" were arrested, im not sure when they were called though.
Dominic...it took place at "Queen's", which to Canadians (Peterson is in Canada) means Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario.
The people in Kingston already pay over three hundred dollars a month in our property taxes on increased police costs because of the Queens party riots and other problems. Not to mention that Queens student that hit the police horse. That school needs to be shut down asap they are turning out very poorly educated students especially the medical school it's complete garbage now.
This is Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. You did not listen - Jordan was leaving for flight to Australia after that.
The administration probably told them to stand down.
Aren't we lucky to have JP to speak up for the rest of us, in ways that we could not manage ourselves.
The protests really brought out the lessons of jp in reality . We should thank them . They gave his words real meaning and context