NASA Canceled Boeing Starliner Launch, Why? Musk's reaction...
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NASA Canceled Boeing Starliner Launch, Why? Musk's reaction...
Once again, Starliner faced setbacks in its journey to lift off into space. Despite being on the cusp of its first crewed mission, unforeseen circumstances led to its postponement.
The Starliner spacecraft, mounted atop an Atlas V rocket, stood poised at Launch Pad SLC-41, ready to embark on a historic flight. Amidst anticipation and well-wishes, including a message of "Godspeed" from Elon Musk, two astronauts, Butch Willmore and Suni William, awaited inside the Starliner capsule. Everything seemed set for the journey to the ISS to commence precisely at 10:34 p.m.
NASA Canceled Boeing Starliner Launch, Why? Musk's reaction...
However, just two hours before the scheduled launch, the attempt came to an abrupt halt. According to launch procedures, this marked the time when ULA would commence fuel loading into the rocket. This critical process typically begins approximately 4 hours before launch, with the Centaur 2 stage being loaded with 4,000 gallons of liquid oxygen.
NASA Canceled Boeing Starliner Launch, Why? Musk's reaction...
The cause of the scrub was identified as an issue with "an oxygen relief valve on the Centaur Stage on the Atlas V," as confirmed by NASA. Following this revelation, ULA issued a notice on X stating that "ULA Launch Director Tom Heter III has made the decision to the launch team that launch operations will not continue tonight for Atlas V and Starliner."
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To be resolved, thank you. - Наука та технологія
I don't think Boeing is going to be around much longer. They are wasting a lot of taxpayer money and hiring people that aren't qualified. The quality isn't there anymore.
Yup. Dei in full effect.
@@ravensrulzaviation 👍👍👍
Doesn't have sh** to do with 'dei'.......this is all about corporate greed. Other rocket producers have qualified workers...why is the management team of Boeing failing to hire and train good people and attend to quality control ? Too many years of business greed over engineering realities since the 90s, and an unwillingness to listen to engineers and safety. Their corporate culture is a mess and is a hindrance to quality engineering.
NASA should cut ties with Boeing .
Boeing's problems stem from the fact that they used to be run by engineers . Now it's lawyers. But it will be around for a long time.
@@marylousherman5471 duh, u just described DEI 😂😂 neve hire Kinky nappy Brillo Pad Haired...❤
I am a self employed precision engineer, as was my father before me, from whom I inherited my business. Years ago my dad did work for two local companies and did very well out of them. Both companies gradually dismissed all those in their offices with engineering capabilities and replaced them with accountants, in the hope of increasing profitability. Within 6 months, both companies were experiencing all sorts of problems because the accountants tried to streamline production lines, about which they had no experience at all. Within 18 months, both companies went bust. This is exactly the same kind of problem that has happened with Boeing. This once great company, which did much work on the Apollo program and brought us the Jumbo jet is now a shadow of its former self. Unless they change back to their original ways of doing things they will go the same way as my father’s customers did. What a crying shame!
*These days, the engineers (and accountants) get replaced by Diversity Hires*
Boeing is one of the examples. I will leave you to supply others (hint: Disney)
Great story and comparison, bro. I hope you can keep following and discussing on our channel ☺️
@ozsteamer2755 again, it's not about 'diversity hires'...how convenient to cast blame on 'diversity', when it is actually the corporate business folk who create the problems.
@@marylousherman5471 *Hmmm, I don't recall the corporate types demanding Diversity Inclusion and Equity.*
Musta missed all those CEO's leading protest marches to demand that!
Instead I have seen the children of the rich & infamous staging such marches and demanding such policies.
@@colonbina1 Thank you. Glad you appreciated my comment. I’ve been watching your channel for some time. I just subscribed.
I can't imagine how those two astronauts must be feeling.
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I can. Test crash dummies if they had feelings would decline to participate further. And unless my family are given at least 50 million should i go poof!
Ever been a test pilot that went through Top Gun ? Could be similar.
I got the feeling that the Starliner was never going to launch. This was just a show.
So like you had a premonition a purge valve inside of the ULA Centaur is borderline ?
The delay enables United Launch Alliance to return the rocket to its Vertical Integration Facility (VIF) hangar near the pad to replace a liquid oxygen pressure regulation valve in the Centaur.
Why didn't you contact right wing media to log your premonition before the article happened ?
SPACEX should have a Dragon ready to do a rescue mission.
Maybe😂
I think they probably already have one ready.
Do you hear that Elon. Get a rocket ready for a rescue. Because its so likely to happen.
My stomach was in knots all day leading up to this launch, just hoping that everyone would be okay and having flashbacks of Challenger. I was so happy to wake up to the scrubbed launch but don't look forward to going through that again.
4.2 BILLION for starliner contract, an existing rocket program, Still are unable to Reuse a rocket.
Engines are outdated, rocket is out dated.
ULA has become out dated catch up or move aside , so others can use the money to progress
Controlled via a Joy Stick and if they had their way, Cathode Ray Tubes as Screens
With lower contract, SpaceX is continuously making new glories
Color me SHOCKED! They need to put the Boeing project managers on it first!
Boeing didn’t build the Atlas rocket.
@@davidkeller6156 Nah... ULA is more competent. If it was a Boeing malfunction, you wouldn't hear about but the astronauts families will get rich.
I'd go on it before the 737 Max. If I had a choice I mean.
I fully expected a problem. Glad it was before the launch!
I hope the crew will safe throughout the mission
Those astronauts breathed a sigh of relief when the scrub notice came through
Maybe😂
I agree lol
I am very glad nasa stood down for the astronauts sake
I still can't believe they don't have to have several successful flights before carrying people.
Yeah
If I was the two astronauts on there, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t get back in it.
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I got a question. Tony Bruno says "The valve may have exceeded its 200,000 lifetime cycles, Bruno said, which means it would have to be replaced, pushing the launch into next week. But if engineers can determine the valve is still within that limit, the launch team could try again as soon as Friday" My question is: How does a valve exceed "200, 000 lifetime cycles" on a onetime use expendable rocket stage?
Yeah, great question. Keep discussing this on our channel ☺️
Each valve must pass many factory tests.
and if so ..does no one keep track of each valves lifecycle and replace them well BEFORE the limits ??? 😮
They said they detected it "buzzing" on their accelerometers mounted near by. Essentially opening and closing back and forth cycling. If it was "cycling" at 200 hz, then it could exceed it's design lifetime in 16.7 minutes.
You’re assuming that the valve was a new part when it was installed.
Both ULA and Blue Origin will cease to exist this decade
Human lives are on the line. No way would NASA continue this Starliner launch knowing how flawed this Boeing project is.
Let's see, the Atlas V has a 100% success rate. IOW, it's never exploded. CST-100 has flown twice. It didn't dock with the station the first time, but it didn't crash either time.
Yeah, totally unreliable.
@@TheCNYMike If it has NEVER exploded as you say, then what you're REALLY saying is that they didn't TEST it hard enough. You must be Russian, because they boast the same way about their shit being 100% successful.
Isn't it interesting that there has been almost no coverage by the mainstream media of the 12 successful F9/manned Dragon missions but all the networks were on hand for the ULA scrub.
I hope the astronauts on starliner are making mass quantities of $ for the risk they are taking.
Musk says what he thinks and doesn’t care what the fake media says so they avoid him and anything he does. SpaceX fans always find the launches and like the fact that Musk is innovative and forward thinking. As usual Musk wins.
Yeah, I'm sure you're being paid good as well.
This is how rumors get started. Saw a press conference today from Tory Bruno of ULA who clarified that they probably could have just reset the flapping O2 valve, but ULA flight policy is that once the crew is in the vehicle, no changes to fueling protocols can be carried out until the crew is then out of the vehicle. In other words, they were just following procedures in the interest of safety when if this had been just a satellite payload, they would have easily just recycled the valve.
This is true, but you know the Starliner program is CANCELLED according to the click-baiters on youtube, now joined by the major networks
streaming parts of the business, trying desperately to compete with the counterfit-info click-baiters.
In reality, all this is countered by sarcastic logic from anybody with a grade 6 education. Done in by Jethro !
No surprise here…at least it wasn’t the Starliner itself this time.
Yeah, I hope they can that problem soon
The advantage of SpaceX is called vertical integration, meaning any problems that may arise are fixed immediately. Boeing has too many suppliers.
Did everyone notice the totally fogged up helmets on the astronauts as they exited Starliner? Probably another example of operational deficiency. Fogged helmets in an emergency could prove fatal.
I hope that the Boeing capsule door does not swing open during mid-flight.
I agree! Use Falcon to launch Starliner!
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I've thought that for years.
Would the Starliner fit on a falcon 9.
It was the rocket at issue; not Starliner.
This wasn’t a Starliner issue, a Atlas Issue, sure Boeing has it’s problems, but this wasn’t on them
What an embarrassment. All this money spent for ever rolling delays. Does not instill a sense of competence or safety.
Let's wait for their next attempts
Nie ma tłumaczenie na polskie?
Another astounding success for Boeing and ULA.
A 'state change' is when something changes from one state to another - examples are liquid to gas, liquid to solid. A sudden pressure drop across a valve can cause it to go from a liquid to a frozen (solid) state generating 'ice' buildup that affects the valve operation
Those poor astraunouts I feel for them
All the best for them on this journey
Well they know the score. They both have a brain, and a mouth. If they don't say no, they are fools. But that's what wanting to be first on an untried untrue rocket breeds... foolishness. At least that's what I am thinking. Some people don't have a lot of value for their lives. And NASA is full of a bunch of half ass engineers and a lot of accountants and managers who wouldn't step a foot onto that rocket themselves. All the good engineers have gone to work for SpaceX and a couple of other private companies. Safety should be paramount, and NASA should have been working on reusability 50 years ago. Reusability is an obvious progression that all rocketeers should be working for. But even now, NASA and ULA are not considering this in any of their programs. They are idiots.
For me as a non technician the starliner looks quite plugged together
What does "plugged" mean ? Like no outlets to plug in your shaver plugged ?
Liquid oxygen is not a fuel, rather it is an oxidizer.
Correct ! It was an oxygen relief valve. Why the turmoil ?
Because the NASA/Boeing/ULA safety structure agreed to does not allow them to recycle the valve while fully fueled,
which is the normal procedure when not crewed, that is highly effective that fixes the problem.
Now when a valve on a plane is intermittent, I believe the procedure is to replace it before climbing to 35,000 feet.
Good advice, crew safety.
I really enjoy your updates. Good info, no "fluff".
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I think Boeing should stay out of the Space Business
I want the senators that handed it so much money for so little to be investigated for corruption
Think they should fix their planes hope starliner doesn’t have the hatch problem their planes do
We need as many company's in the space race as possible. Unfortunately just the law of averages we will lose a few astronauts could be any company .
This criticism at Boeing, by posters, is unwarranted. That was a safety issue and NASA and ULA clearly acted in accordance. Also it was ULA and not Boeing that had the problem. I applaud the decision. Rockets are huge bombs, in reality. Safety, is a must.
Isn't UAL 50% Boeing?
I disagree. All the things so far are completely in boeings responsibility. The whole thing has been a farce. Can't get clocks right. Fill the vehicle with a load of flammable tape. Need I go on? Never mind the 737 max debacle. Don't defend the indiffensible.
@@howard6433 But Tory Bruno are the big boss opf ULA and only |HE has the last words by any decisions ! His decision following thw rules were absolutely right ! Period !
@@howard6433 dude these people dont like the Truth.
By the way, what is it with boeing and stuck valves?!?! Whatever Elon says, they never have or had problems with valves (as far i know)!
*If it's Boeing... it's not going?*
Many thanks for the video, Kevin.
We snark a heap but we're grateful for you putting the video together.
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At least the door didnt blow off aye 😂
Just as I predicted, when Boeing got the contract, they would screw up again.
There is no reason for ULA or Boeing to exist in the space launching market now. Period.
What they can do now is complete the mission that Nasa assign them
@@colonbina1 They should also start hiring "Qualified Engineers" that "Have Earned It"
I agree Boeing is useless and SpaceX is making NASA look like they’re Still using the model T
I wholeheartedly agree. But, there is just too much "K Street" money out there and politicians are greedy people who only think about themselves. What might happen is that StarLiner will hook up with StarShip booster to get into orbit. Something like that.
The US wants a system it owns. Private operators can...be unpredictable. Truth.
Why launch when they can get more money not doing so😂😂😂
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Pay SpaceX the same as Boeing. Then pay for it by dropping Boeing. Do you think Boeing's quality issues are just with planes?
I ain't flying with these guys if I was an astronaut!
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The main criticisms of Boeing are price and failing to deliver... I would not pressure them into launching quickly - better a white elephant than a lethal vehicle... 😊
I don't believe that NASA should question the motive of why Russia doesn't want a seat on Starliner, to the best of my knowledge, Russia has never declined a seat on the Crew Dragon... 🤔😏
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Russia are smart enough to watch the Demo test flight with the two astronauts. Will that be successful then maybe Russia would ask for a seat in the futre if thew would see a profit for themself .
At least they scrubbed it. I’d hate to see a repeat of the Challenger disaster.
I hope they can launch and return safely
Be Safe !❤!
Not Another Sad Attempt
Need Another Starship Attempt, because 25 failures and 3 years later Sx is a has been.
Never Able Space Attempts.
Need Another Starship Attempt, because 25 failures and 3 years later Sx is a has been.
This decision jist saved 2 lives.
Hopefully, they can ensure everything before launching this mission
By the time Starliner launches. The two astronauts will be eligible for social security... 😮😮😮
Not funny.
Maybe they can take a 737 MAX?
What about F9?
I KNEW IT !!!!! another door problem ?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now we just have to wait for another whistleblower to "EXIT stage LEFT " suddenly
Let's wait for their next attempt
I wouldn't get in a car built by DEI controlled Boeing, none the less a plane and heaven forbid, a dangerous rocket.
They can consider to use Falcon 9
anything that has Bill Nelson included certainly will fail!
I have much more faith in a manned version of DreamChaser than Starliner. In any rate, there needs to be competition for SpaceX. I think Elon himself would agree.
I agree with the need for competition; Boeing isn't that.
Starliner and Dragon will now be alternating manned crews to the ISS.
Starliner is the better craft, but that doesn't matter.
Dreamchase is the definitive future of LEO, it is obviously well advanced of the other 2 old style capsule.
It just need to be fix/repair. With money, time and hands to work. It will take off. This is mechanical adjustment.,....
Wait...Atlas 5 is not reliable?
Since when?
AFAIK, Atlas V has a 100% success rate. In other words, it hasn't blown up.
I mean Falcon 9 is more reliable than Atlas V right now
@@colonbina1 Measured how? Because as I have pointed out, Atlas V has not exploded.
Starliner is also designed by accountants. No engineers involved😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I dont think the execs at Boeing ever believed that they would be expected to deliver on the contract, or that they ever took SpaceX seriously as a competitor. That fact that boeing aquired all the techical specs and Data from NAA on the Apollo CSM, getting the starliner flight ready should have been a breeze.
Ah heeeeeeeeeeeehaaawwwwwwwww !!
space is hard.
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Look at SpaceX's valve problems haunting the Starship from the very first product - Starhoper. They became the reasons for the scrubs of cryotests, static fires and high-altitude hops. They were partially solved only in IFT-2.
Yeah, SpaceX solve this bu continuous upgrades, but Boeing is do nothing
I took a Boeing management placement test online just for fun. Every question is about how you'd work in a company in complete disarray.
Are you the same guy that narrates the Company Man channel?
This is a typical NASA program - NASA has a hand in all ULA programs while ULA has a hand in NASA’s pocket.
Cute little phrases there turtle dove !
I would never go up in that Boeing thing, not unless I had a death wish. Who keeps getting the backhanders to keep Boeing in, with huge funding and much of SpaceX out?
I wonder if copyrights prevent NASA from referring to the 'far side of the moon' as the 'dark side of the moon'?
"Dark side of the moon" is obviously a racist comment.
The door fell off.
That thing looks like 30 year old technology compare to Dragon. Why it is so rugged and grey and not white and smooth like Dragon? Anyone knows?
Yeah, great comparison
Thirty? Hell, the damned this looks like second rate competition of a Saturn IB of the c. late 1960s era. That's well over 50 years old.
Can the starliner ride atop the Falcon rocket?
Yeah, they are compatible
I still say that we would be better off if these companies helped each other. There is plenty of space out there for everyone to explore. I believe if anyone asked Musk for help he would say yes, what can I do. He has a goal. I’m not sure the other companies have any goal other than to make money. He is winning.
Yeah, he and SpaceX can save Nasa and Boeing
Fortunately Boeing does not produce elevators… bear in mind SpaceX methodology is interesting, they first test several times and use telemetry, and for Elon a failure is a “good news” cause they collect massive “data points” to improve (similar to the concept of World War II planes and the bullet impacts received by planes).
"Interesting." Launch it until it doesn't explode. Yeah, I suppose that's one thing to call it. Also interesting how an explosion is a "success" whereas a non-SpaceX rocket flying without exploding is a failure.
But Space X is a total failure with Starship after multiple attempts over 3 years of development, can't even get to orbit, not once.
The bare minimum. It will be 2040 or until Masked man bandit goes bankrupt.
Is the issue for postpnement a ULA or Boeing problem?
ULA problem bevcause the Oxygen valve problem was on the Centaur stage NOT on Starliner capsule !
How is it certified?
Should've used Falcon.
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Considering all the problem with Boeing aircraft The motto should now be If it’s Boeing I ain’t going.
What problem with Boeing aircraft ? There are thousands of Boeing planes flying with confort and safety every day , there are problems with a plane model but it will be solved . The real problem here is desasterous management made by incompetent , corrupt and greedy CEOs .
Really ? But I'll bet you're going ! Soon and a lot ! Talk like that will just scare yourself.
More than 10,000 Boeing-built commercial jetliners are in service worldwide, which is almost half the world fleet. The company also offers the most complete family of freighters, and about 90 percent of the world's cargo is carried onboard Boeing planes.
There is nothing surprising, for the first time since 1981, not a single first test flight of a spacecraft with a crew passed on time, there were always scrubs. Space Shuttle STS 1 10 April 1981 scrub, Crew Dragon Demo 2 27 May 2020 scrub, Boeing Starliner CFT 6 May 2024 scrub.
Yeah, the first time is always difficult
Yet they were flying people to the moon over 50 years ago.....so I've been told....
The Space Launch Agency needs to work on rebuild of the unit made in 2017, I believe.
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Better to delay than blow up after launch.
True, but they could have just recycled the valve which is what all other missions have done.
I don't like it. But I would go if I could. Too little too late. Space X RULES. :)
NASA needs to cancel all contracts with Boeing.
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I´ve seen a video about this issue. It seems is more expensive to NASA to cancel the current contract than to let Boing fulfill it. Though it is more expensive to Boing to do it, than it would be to just cancel the contract. They are in a catch 22 situation, when both parties are worse off by doing it than not doing it. However, if one side alone cancels it, the price to pay will be even worse.
No amount of money is worth 2 human lives…. Lives are in danger if statliner is continued
Who is Emily Linge? 🥰
boeing ought to hire kerbal space director as Mgr of starliner
Just reality on space operations, best advice !
I would feel better with the delay. It’s ready when everything works right. Space flight is not a walk in the park. At least they take the time to fix problems before launch. I would not think the rocket won’t do the job it’s just a little delay. Stuff happens .
Yeah, I'm agree to you although we don't like the delays
Starliner is supposed to be a backup to Dragon?
This is coming true
There heart monitors on the astronauts indicated they had gone into panic mode.
then stabilized when the launch was scrubbed. 🤗🩺
where did you get that info?
As I have already commented, ULA and Boeing are, after Blue Origin, at the top of the cartoon companies! And all the while, China advances!
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Yes...
My perspective: like everything "launch", waiting
Waiting
I'm 83
Waiting
It's OK
does this thing have an escape system if things get explody ?
Yes, it does, and in theory it should work even if the rocket explodes on the launchpad. There should be a video on UA-cam from their escape system test flight.
It does, its the bendoverkissyourassgoodbye ejection system, like the space shuttle (that which built the ISS).
SPACE X 👍🚀 MUSK ♥️👍💯
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Better to be safe.
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No problem! Just a few more billion dollars and another year to fix it.
Better that than have it explode in flight.
Delay and delay
@@colonbina1 The new launch date is this coming Friday. Some delay.
Yes
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Tom Heter the third?? Is he the king of Boeing? ;-)
Elon Musk & SpaceX just successfully reused 1 of their rockets for the 22nd time!
And then we have... Boeing & Starliner.
Starship just never worked in over 3 years and counting, and 20 crashes to date.
@@Mity_Mo It took almost 7 years of testing from 2011-2018 to successfully produce SpaceX's reusable Falcon Heavy rocket. If you weren't so obviously retarded, you'll understand that you're not testing hard enough if your rockets are not crashing, failing & exploding. The telemetry data from each failure ultimately contributed to the successful end product.
SpaceX is overwhelming Boeing Starliner
No way it flies today. I would replace what has proven to be a faulty valve. It doesn't matter how many times it has cycled or whether it "might" be good after a new fueling. The best you can do now is the weekend. If I were a Russian, I wouldn't fly on a Starliner either. Even after certification I would want to see it fly more times.
The Russian Cosmonauts are terrified of their own Soyuz, and want Roscom to get them seats on Dragon.
Probably we need to wait until weekend to see this mission
I was appalled to see the first astronaut being buckled in and he was holding two large operating manuals ! How ancient! Dragon is so far more advanced. The strapping in was so slow and convoluted, I actually gave up watching and guessed correctly they wouldn't be flying. Boeing - you're an embarrassment. Learn from SpaceX.
No! It's time to pull the plug on Starliner.
And the reason ?
4:12 Boeing would never use Falcon9. Reason being is that ULA is owned by both Boeing and Lockheed Martin. By going with a Falcon9 rocket, they'd be directing funds away from their own rocket program to a competitor, and ultimately admitting that they failed.
Furthermore, would Musk allow Starliner on a Flacon 9? Probably not.
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This is the problem , they can't even recognize their short comings much less make corrections to improve Quality and if that is 100 % Safety walks hand in hand
@@chainlighting5638 Um, Atlas V already has a 100% success rate.
You said competitor. Wouldn't that suggest a meaningful competition? Competing at the same level? They aren't even close and if you consider cost, ummmm, yeah...
I would of been shocked if it launched. Not if it blew up after the launch though.
god has heard my prayers and stopped the madness of this prominent accident
So you expect it to blow up, like Starship. ?
@@Mity_Mo Well yes, the whole production has been a comedy of errors.
duh, u just described DEI 😂😂 neve hire Kinky nappy Brillo Pad Haired...❤
At this point, I dont think I would even trust my life with anything Boeing built even an automobile, unless it was built more than 30 years ago
Boeing didn’t build the part that caused the problem.
@@foley15136 They sourced it though. They must have specified it!
You will. You think your demand to pick a plane is viable in the world ?
More than 10,000 Boeing-built commercial jetliners are in service worldwide, which is almost half the world fleet. The company also offers the most complete family of freighters, and about 90 percent of the world's cargo is carried onboard Boeing planes.
I mean you could request a 30 year old plane..