This video probably suggests a dpf back is pointless. I had a Torqit SS 3inch twin exit on mine. Today, after running it for 14 months or so. I decided to go back to stock exhaust. After the swap I noticed the stock exhaust feels more responsive on take off. There was no noise difference, what so ever, and took probably 20kg of weight of the vehicle. As for egts, I will see over the next few days. Dpf back systems are a waste of money imo. No dpfs, I would definitely buy again.
Good content, We have a twin 3 into 3.5, had to get a mid muffler drone was annoying at a few cruising speeds They definitely sound better under load ie towing but still can’t get it to sound anywhere as good as our 79 did I think it’s the auto / TC mellowing out the note.
Well done Nathan I think that pretty much answers my questions to the affirmative that the potential issues of drone isn’t really going to be a problem. It was interesting that you did find a narrow band where it was prominent, but not much. My only challenge, and I imagine for many others, is getting it past the ‘War Office’. One last question would you look to get an engine remap which is what most seem to do when changing the exhaust, so that you can squeeze more power and torque out of the engine and to also minimise the turbo lag at start off? Also what is your tow hitch, which seems to go nice and low? Great video 👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers mate. Glad it has helped out with a few questions. After 3,500km I'm still loving this exhaust. Fuel consumption is suffering a little bit due to that heavy right foot... Yes, I am looking at ECU and transmission remap along with a full intake clean (actually booked in for next week). PS. This is only a cheap tow hitch I use for the light box trailer, but I use this fully adjustable 4t rated tow hitch with the van - rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FAdjustable-tow-bar-tongue-50mm-towball-trailer-boat-car-4T-Rating-Mister-Hitches%2F192586541905%3Fhash%3Ditem2cd70d6b51%3Ag%3ACAQAAOSwIK5f2sB7&campid=5338630196&toolid=10001&customid=
Hi Nathan, I've recently come into ownership of an 2012 GX and been busily researching all of the usual upgrades/mods. Your videos are the best out there - super informative for the detail oriented; makes descision making a whole lot easier - thanks and keep up the good work! In response to Andrew's question above re: remaps, and your response - did you end up getting the remaps done? I'm almost at the point of pulling the trigger myself, but hesitating due to conflicting information overload! I'd be very interested to hear about your experience, as I'm sure many of your viewers would. Any plans for an episode on this? Apologies if you've covered this elsewhere and I've missed it.
Nice review mate, thanks for taking the time in putting this together. I was interested to see that the acceleration was marginally slower with the Manta in the 60-100 range. One quick question mate, did you pay full retail for the system? Keep up the good work👍
Thanks Terry 👍 Yes, it was slightly slower, however the filming was done on a different day and there could be environmental factors playing a part in there too. As mentioned, it was very informal and more to ascertain whether there would be any significant difference without the use of proper measuring equipment. PS. Yes, full RRP. I’ve made a point to keep this channel as independent as possible to create unbiased reviews 👍
@@XploringOz good stuff Nathan. Agree, as it was filmed on different days environmental factors could definitely be at play. Good to see you are trying to remain independent. I cut a video called “Product Review Videos on UA-cam” on Jafffa Adventures and if you read the comments section you can clearly get an understanding of viewership opinion on the subject. You are young with a long and bright future in front of you and it would be a shame if you went down the 24/7 route if you know what I mean. Once down that road, there is no going back (and it will be very enticing to do so at times I suspect). Stay true to your values and viewers will love you for it. Old man lecture over😂😉. Cheers😎👍
@@JafffaAdventures Cheers mate. I watched that clip (along with most of your content) and it was actually this video that cemented my focus on being independent. The comments alone just go to show that people enjoy and value watching videos with 'real' unbiased review. Channels like our may not receive the 10's or 100's of thousand's of views like the 'influencers' however thats not why I started or continue to make these videos. The positive feedback and appreciation I get from people that have received some sort of useful information from my videos is the encouragement I enjoy. All the best mate and I hope to see you around sometime. Cheers, Nathan.
@@peterj5751 I haven’t noticed a significant difference and it’s hard to measure the exact performance gains without proper measuring facilities. Saying this, I have noticed a significant drop in fuel consumption which is awesome 👍
Hi Nathan, what's your thoughts on this approx. 2 years in now? In today's money, would you happily drop circa $2k from your mods budget on doing this exhaust again? Thanks mate, love the channel. Hope you are enjoying the lap!
Hey mate, I abolsutely love this exhaust. It may be a little loud for some people but I wouldn't change a thing and would definitely buy the same option again. As I said, if you're towing all the time (as I am) and wanted a quiet ride, then probably not for you. But if you want something that flows a little faster and sounds absolutely awesome, then this is the exhaust for you! I've had 1 bolt rattle loose, no fault of the manufacture, otherwise has been perfect!
Hiya, possibly a dated reply although considering a Manta exhaust system for my 2016 GXL 200 and to date, your responses on other issues have always been valued. Your thoughts on this system for DPF back? Tia
Id like to see what direction you go with a van, make a video bud! we tow a 22ft JB dirt road extreme. Booked in for an arb gvm upgrade to gain some payload (mainly for cabin weight). U in Central Queensland feel free to touch base and i can give a heap of tips what to see where to go etc local knowledge ✌happy travels
Cheers mate! I'll definitely be sharing the van here once we finally received it... Delays after delays are pushing the delivery date back, but it's coming... The 22ft Dirt Road Xtreme was in our top 5, but isn't our final choice. Thanks mate, we'll definitely keep this in mind as we'll be over that way in about a year and half on our big lap trip! Cheers, Nathan.
Hi Nathan, nice vid and well explanations. You really need to hitch up your new van, guess you have to adjust also the height of your hitch, which looks at lawnmower height level ! Then you will acknowledge if your exhaust produce drone noise at different speeds, above 90 to 110 km/h also depending on 5th. Or 6th. gear with locked converter. But I reckon the Mud tire ‚will sing their song‘ when loading up and van on the towball. Safe trip, cheers
Thanks mate. Yes, I'm looking forward to towing the new trailer, however along with most industries, this appears to be significantly delayed due to lockdowns. So this might be a while off yet, but still coming along. Whenever it comes, I'll be sure to revisit the exhaust and see how it performs. Haha yes, the tow bar doesn't quite match the vehicle. Because the cruiser is so high now, this is what I need to tow my standard, non-offroad box trailer to keep the tandem axles on the ground. Hope you are keeping well and thanks again.
I had the local exhaust bloke make an exhaust for our 200 for $1500 fitted it has 2 2.5”high flow cats into 3.5” straight through muffler plus we picked up over 1.5L 100kms better
Nice, sure would have been a lot cheaper that something like this unit. That's an awesome fuel saving. I haven't quite got a feel for exactly how much the fuel economy has changed due to tow, vehicle testing and some harder acceleration around town to hear that new exhaust note. Cheers, Nathan.
Hey mate, I didn't physically weigh these systems, so I can't confirm any weight differences. If I had to guess though, I would say the new system is lighter due to smaller and lighter mufflers (and the lack of one...) Again, can't confirm sorry.
Great information here. I have been tossing the coin with manta and beaudesert. Then im thinking support south aussie made king brown. Oh the delema but all great aussie companies to be supported. Thanks Eric.
I know the struggle. There are soo many companies and different options when coming to choose a quality exhaust. It took me a while to finally settle on this setup, but very happy so far. All the best with your exhaust, I'm sure you'll be satisfied with whatever you choose. Cheers, Nathan.
Great Vid!!! I have same yr etc and have been doing a lot of reading to make sure i don't end up with drone. Because if it did when towing the van id get a lot more drone inside from the boss lol! Why did you choose Aluminised steel over stainless? Have been thinking of 3" highflown cats into 4" straight thru with rear resonator !
Cheers mate. I'm yet to test this towing a very heavy load like a caravan, but so far happy with the result. I only chose aluminised steel because of the cheaper price and personally, if I get 10 years from the exhaust ill be happy. I'm not too worried about a bit of surface rust on the exhaust. It would be interesting to hear your thought on the rear resonator, over the centre. Wonder if it makes makes much of a difference?
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it. So honestly, I haven't noticed a change in fuel consumption yet. It was hard to compare the fuel consumption for a lot of the highway km's as I was towing a trailer I setup differently to normal, therefore wouldn't be a fair comparison. My urban driving has remained about the same, however and its a big however... my driving style has changed a little. I always find myself accelerating that little bit harder to get to nice exhaust note. Further, I've been doing a lot of vehicle testing recently, including many hard acceleration tests which hasn't helped. In my opinion, I believe that if my driving styled remained the same, I may have seen a slight improvement, but I wouldn't believe it to be much. The vehicle is getting a tune next week and this is where I can hope to see some improvements in this area. Cheers, Nathan.
Was going to ask the same thing. Great vid again. Enjoy your scientific approach and objective based outcomes. Keep it up and looking forward to hearing about the tune. Ps. Don’t forget to ask about a transmission tune. Particularly for 6th gear.
@@jayz4771 So doing some more driving recently I have noticed a big improvement in fuel consumption. Averaging 11.8L/100km on my last tank, including 50% urban, 50% highway driving, so this is awesome. Sure thing, vehicle is in today for a full intake clean, ECU and trans remap
Nice review. You only stated a 3" into 4" with centre muffler. Did you not fit cats? . I've ordered a 2-1/2 " into 3" with 4" tip with hi flow cats and rear resonator. Hope it's just as good.
Cheers mate. Sorry yes, I forgot to mention that this is exhaust is also fitted with high flow CAT's. The exact and full details on my exhaust are listed in my instal video - ua-cam.com/video/yPKKr9aZwfw/v-deo.html I'm sure you will be happy with your choice, great value modification to these vehicles.
Nathan nice before and after video of the manta system. I too have the same system but the loud version very happy with my set-up a little drone at hwy speed @ about 120kmh but at 110 the noise level is same as the hwy road noise.
Cheers mate 👍 So does your system just missing the centre muffler? I was definitely tempted by this, but thought the medium might be a bit more sensible. Do you tow with your vehicle?
@@XploringOz no centre just straight through, i haven't towed a caravan yet but if i was would probably put a hi flow muffler in as it would on a long trip drone
@@ted0777 Yeah, good stuff. I just had a tune, intake clean and EGR block and have noticed a decent increase in the exhaust level. Not complaining, just hoping it won’t be too loud when towing, should be alright at cruising speeds though 👍
Nice. That's the great thing about Manta, is that they offer a system for all types of vehicles and applications. If you wanted an exhaust with the benefits of a larger system, like improved airflow, lower EGT's and higher performance but with no additional noise, this is all possible.
@@calumliew8243 It sounds a little more deep, but you dont notice it if you have the windows up.We did 3K Km's to S.A and we noticed no sound difference.We got the quiet one.Haven't notice more power, not sure about fuel economy as we towing.This is part one of the build, next will be intercooler and then unichip and tune, but I'm in no rush as this costs a motsa!, also car need a paintjob..
@@calumliew8243 It's a great system. Yeah, there definitely is a big difference in the sounds for sure. A much deeper and more pronounce V8 tone for sure.
Haha, yeah I’m sure if I kept a standard size and amount of mufflers that came from Toyota then it would be much quieter. I choose this for the sound and increased volume and I love it! Would buy it again if I had my time again!
Thanks mate. So yeah, had a look at their dual outlet models too, the only reason I chose this option was that the dual outlet model can restrict options for long ranger tanks and other accessories down the track if I choose to fit some. Also, yes, 2" ARB OME BP-51 suspension lift, this is highly recommended if fitting an exhaust this large.
@@XploringOz yeah, agree with the restriction on future accessories. Looks like I better put suspension on the list first then, may as well do the GVM upgrade as well....cheers for the info
@@XploringOz Dual 3" Manta LC200 'Extreme' system is significantly more rowdy for zero actual performance gain over the 2 into 1 you installed. Fortunately given the incredible job Toyota have done to reduce interior noise it's still not at all annoying nor any significant drone inside. Cheers
Hey mate, underbody protection is not something I have done and personally probably not something I will look at doing in the future. I don't find myself rock crawling and in areas where I might require it and it only complicates servicing and add's weight. Might not be needed for my applications, but certainly useful for others. It's all about how you use your vehicle. Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nathan, thanks for vids and information... just a question off topic to this vid but how is you under bonnet second battery going? Fullriver maint free.. I watched a vid from you in 2019 regarding this setup... is it still going strong.... ? Lithium’s are good but won’t last under the bonnet for their full expected long life and for the price , prob worth staying with agm?
Cheers mate 👍 So yes, the battery is still going strong and happy with the choice. I put the exact same battery is the Prado build as well, back in 2017 and it’s also still going strong (also under bonnet). I too like the idea of lithium, just waiting some some heat efficiency improvements and lower costs 👍
Hey Nathan, is the 2" lift pretty much a requirement for the exhaust, or can I get away with installing the exhaust without a lift and then look at adding a lift 6months down the track?
Hey mate, from what I understand, if you plan on 4WD'ing with the vehicle and will likely expect some articulation in the rear axle then you may risk damage to that rear tail pipe section that curves over the rear axle. This section of pipe is 4" in diameter and would take much to damage. My advice would be to probably hold off until you have the suspension lift, but it wouldn't hurt to confirm this with Manta. Cheers, Nathan.
@@blaketoby6450 Cheers mate, really happy with how they look. The only negative is the availability of those tyres... they are a hard item to replace out bush...
I have been waiting for someone to make a video on this topic.
Not even specifically for the 200, but free flows in general.
Glad that this has been helpful.
Cheers, Nathan.
Informative review and a great starting point for my research into a new system for my 2014 GXL. Cheers.
Cheers mate, glad it was helpful 🤙
Hey mate ! Just on the drone! I have same exhaust system as you , I put a resonator mid way ! Sounds great got rid of that 1700 rev drone 👍
Cheers mate, might be something I can compare in the future. At the moment, I'm loving the subtle sound of the current system.
Cheers, Nathan.
This video probably suggests a dpf back is pointless.
I had a Torqit SS 3inch twin exit on mine. Today, after running it for 14 months or so. I decided to go back to stock exhaust. After the swap I noticed the stock exhaust feels more responsive on take off. There was no noise difference, what so ever, and took probably 20kg of weight of the vehicle. As for egts, I will see over the next few days.
Dpf back systems are a waste of money imo. No dpfs, I would definitely buy again.
Good content,
We have a twin 3 into 3.5, had to get a mid muffler drone was annoying at a few cruising speeds
They definitely sound better under load ie towing but still can’t get it to sound anywhere as good as our 79 did I think it’s the auto / TC mellowing out the note.
Thanks mate.
For sure, they sounds great, but yes there definitely is a difference between these and the 79 series.
Well done Nathan I think that pretty much answers my questions to the affirmative that the potential issues of drone isn’t really going to be a problem. It was interesting that you did find a narrow band where it was prominent, but not much. My only challenge, and I imagine for many others, is getting it past the ‘War Office’. One last question would you look to get an engine remap which is what most seem to do when changing the exhaust, so that you can squeeze more power and torque out of the engine and to also minimise the turbo lag at start off? Also what is your tow hitch, which seems to go nice and low? Great video 👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers mate. Glad it has helped out with a few questions. After 3,500km I'm still loving this exhaust. Fuel consumption is suffering a little bit due to that heavy right foot...
Yes, I am looking at ECU and transmission remap along with a full intake clean (actually booked in for next week).
PS. This is only a cheap tow hitch I use for the light box trailer, but I use this fully adjustable 4t rated tow hitch with the van - rover.ebay.com/rover/1/705-53470-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fitm%2FAdjustable-tow-bar-tongue-50mm-towball-trailer-boat-car-4T-Rating-Mister-Hitches%2F192586541905%3Fhash%3Ditem2cd70d6b51%3Ag%3ACAQAAOSwIK5f2sB7&campid=5338630196&toolid=10001&customid=
Hi Nathan, I've recently come into ownership of an 2012 GX and been busily researching all of the usual upgrades/mods. Your videos are the best out there - super informative for the detail oriented; makes descision making a whole lot easier - thanks and keep up the good work! In response to Andrew's question above re: remaps, and your response - did you end up getting the remaps done? I'm almost at the point of pulling the trigger myself, but hesitating due to conflicting information overload! I'd be very interested to hear about your experience, as I'm sure many of your viewers would. Any plans for an episode on this? Apologies if you've covered this elsewhere and I've missed it.
Nice review mate, thanks for taking the time in putting this together. I was interested to see that the acceleration was marginally slower with the Manta in the 60-100 range.
One quick question mate, did you pay full retail for the system? Keep up the good work👍
Thanks Terry 👍
Yes, it was slightly slower, however the filming was done on a different day and there could be environmental factors playing a part in there too. As mentioned, it was very informal and more to ascertain whether there would be any significant difference without the use of proper measuring equipment.
PS. Yes, full RRP. I’ve made a point to keep this channel as independent as possible to create unbiased reviews 👍
@@XploringOz good stuff Nathan.
Agree, as it was filmed on different days environmental factors could definitely be at play.
Good to see you are trying to remain independent. I cut a video called “Product Review Videos on UA-cam” on Jafffa Adventures and if you read the comments section you can clearly get an understanding of viewership opinion on the subject. You are young with a long and bright future in front of you and it would be a shame if you went down the 24/7 route if you know what I mean. Once down that road, there is no going back (and it will be very enticing to do so at times I suspect). Stay true to your values and viewers will love you for it. Old man lecture over😂😉. Cheers😎👍
@@JafffaAdventures Cheers mate.
I watched that clip (along with most of your content) and it was actually this video that cemented my focus on being independent. The comments alone just go to show that people enjoy and value watching videos with 'real' unbiased review. Channels like our may not receive the 10's or 100's of thousand's of views like the 'influencers' however thats not why I started or continue to make these videos. The positive feedback and appreciation I get from people that have received some sort of useful information from my videos is the encouragement I enjoy.
All the best mate and I hope to see you around sometime.
Cheers, Nathan.
Any other observations about the performance feel of the car. Does it feel more responsive?
@@peterj5751 I haven’t noticed a significant difference and it’s hard to measure the exact performance gains without proper measuring facilities. Saying this, I have noticed a significant drop in fuel consumption which is awesome 👍
Hi Nathan, what's your thoughts on this approx. 2 years in now? In today's money, would you happily drop circa $2k from your mods budget on doing this exhaust again? Thanks mate, love the channel. Hope you are enjoying the lap!
Hey mate, I abolsutely love this exhaust. It may be a little loud for some people but I wouldn't change a thing and would definitely buy the same option again.
As I said, if you're towing all the time (as I am) and wanted a quiet ride, then probably not for you. But if you want something that flows a little faster and sounds absolutely awesome, then this is the exhaust for you!
I've had 1 bolt rattle loose, no fault of the manufacture, otherwise has been perfect!
What are the power/torque values now? I bet you have NFI
Hiya, possibly a dated reply although considering a Manta exhaust system for my 2016 GXL 200 and to date, your responses on other issues have always been valued. Your thoughts on this system for DPF back?
Tia
Have manta on my tb48, no drone, you pay for quality wa made also 👌
Agreed! I reckon it’s worth the extra coin 👍
5:27 Insane sound
Thanks mate, love the sound of this cruiser 💪
Id like to see what direction you go with a van, make a video bud! we tow a 22ft JB dirt road extreme. Booked in for an arb gvm upgrade to gain some payload (mainly for cabin weight). U in Central Queensland feel free to touch base and i can give a heap of tips what to see where to go etc local knowledge ✌happy travels
Cheers mate! I'll definitely be sharing the van here once we finally received it... Delays after delays are pushing the delivery date back, but it's coming... The 22ft Dirt Road Xtreme was in our top 5, but isn't our final choice.
Thanks mate, we'll definitely keep this in mind as we'll be over that way in about a year and half on our big lap trip!
Cheers, Nathan.
Hi Nathan, nice vid and well explanations. You really need to hitch up your new van, guess you have to adjust also the height of your hitch, which looks at lawnmower height level !
Then you will acknowledge if your exhaust produce drone noise at different speeds, above 90 to 110 km/h also depending on 5th. Or 6th. gear with locked converter. But I reckon the Mud tire ‚will sing their song‘ when loading up and van on the towball. Safe trip, cheers
Thanks mate.
Yes, I'm looking forward to towing the new trailer, however along with most industries, this appears to be significantly delayed due to lockdowns. So this might be a while off yet, but still coming along. Whenever it comes, I'll be sure to revisit the exhaust and see how it performs.
Haha yes, the tow bar doesn't quite match the vehicle. Because the cruiser is so high now, this is what I need to tow my standard, non-offroad box trailer to keep the tandem axles on the ground.
Hope you are keeping well and thanks again.
Good solid review. Well done!
Thanks mate, glad you liked it!
I had the local exhaust bloke make an exhaust for our 200 for $1500 fitted it has 2 2.5”high flow cats into 3.5” straight through muffler plus we picked up over 1.5L 100kms better
Nice, sure would have been a lot cheaper that something like this unit.
That's an awesome fuel saving. I haven't quite got a feel for exactly how much the fuel economy has changed due to tow, vehicle testing and some harder acceleration around town to hear that new exhaust note.
Cheers, Nathan.
Any weight saving on this system over the old system it all helps 👍
Hey mate, I didn't physically weigh these systems, so I can't confirm any weight differences. If I had to guess though, I would say the new system is lighter due to smaller and lighter mufflers (and the lack of one...)
Again, can't confirm sorry.
Great information here.
I have been tossing the coin with manta and beaudesert.
Then im thinking support south aussie made king brown.
Oh the delema but all great aussie companies to be supported.
Thanks Eric.
I know the struggle. There are soo many companies and different options when coming to choose a quality exhaust.
It took me a while to finally settle on this setup, but very happy so far.
All the best with your exhaust, I'm sure you'll be satisfied with whatever you choose.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great Vid!!! I have same yr etc and have been doing a lot of reading to make sure i don't end up with drone. Because if it did when towing the van id get a lot more drone inside from the boss lol! Why did you choose Aluminised steel over stainless? Have been thinking of 3" highflown cats into
4" straight thru with rear resonator !
Cheers mate. I'm yet to test this towing a very heavy load like a caravan, but so far happy with the result.
I only chose aluminised steel because of the cheaper price and personally, if I get 10 years from the exhaust ill be happy. I'm not too worried about a bit of surface rust on the exhaust.
It would be interesting to hear your thought on the rear resonator, over the centre. Wonder if it makes makes much of a difference?
Thanks for another very informative video. Have you noticed any difference in fuel economy?
Cheers
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it.
So honestly, I haven't noticed a change in fuel consumption yet. It was hard to compare the fuel consumption for a lot of the highway km's as I was towing a trailer I setup differently to normal, therefore wouldn't be a fair comparison.
My urban driving has remained about the same, however and its a big however... my driving style has changed a little. I always find myself accelerating that little bit harder to get to nice exhaust note. Further, I've been doing a lot of vehicle testing recently, including many hard acceleration tests which hasn't helped.
In my opinion, I believe that if my driving styled remained the same, I may have seen a slight improvement, but I wouldn't believe it to be much.
The vehicle is getting a tune next week and this is where I can hope to see some improvements in this area.
Cheers, Nathan.
Was going to ask the same thing.
Great vid again. Enjoy your scientific approach and objective based outcomes. Keep it up and looking forward to hearing about the tune.
Ps. Don’t forget to ask about a transmission tune. Particularly for 6th gear.
@@jayz4771 So doing some more driving recently I have noticed a big improvement in fuel consumption. Averaging 11.8L/100km on my last tank, including 50% urban, 50% highway driving, so this is awesome.
Sure thing, vehicle is in today for a full intake clean, ECU and trans remap
Nice review. You only stated a 3" into 4" with centre muffler. Did you not fit cats? . I've ordered a 2-1/2 " into 3" with 4" tip with hi flow cats and rear resonator. Hope it's just as good.
Cheers mate.
Sorry yes, I forgot to mention that this is exhaust is also fitted with high flow CAT's. The exact and full details on my exhaust are listed in my instal video - ua-cam.com/video/yPKKr9aZwfw/v-deo.html
I'm sure you will be happy with your choice, great value modification to these vehicles.
Wow what a difference! Sweet video mate! Sounds fuckin tuff!
Cheers mate, love that note now! Has to be one of my favourite mod's to date!
Nathan nice before and after video of the manta system.
I too have the same system but the loud version very happy with my set-up a little drone at hwy speed @ about 120kmh but at 110 the noise level is same as the hwy road noise.
Cheers mate 👍
So does your system just missing the centre muffler? I was definitely tempted by this, but thought the medium might be a bit more sensible.
Do you tow with your vehicle?
@@XploringOz no centre just straight through, i haven't towed a caravan yet but if i was would probably put a hi flow muffler in as it would on a long trip drone
@@ted0777 Yeah, good stuff. I just had a tune, intake clean and EGR block and have noticed a decent increase in the exhaust level. Not complaining, just hoping it won’t be too loud when towing, should be alright at cruising speeds though 👍
@@XploringOz here is a link to a 20 second video of it going up a sand dune
ua-cam.com/video/ToAmsdN6dbg/v-deo.html
@@ted0777 That does sound good 👍
I just put one(Manta 3") in my 100 series hdj100. got the quiet version, no drone at all. It seems a little more perky, but time will tell..
Nice. That's the great thing about Manta, is that they offer a system for all types of vehicles and applications. If you wanted an exhaust with the benefits of a larger system, like improved airflow, lower EGT's and higher performance but with no additional noise, this is all possible.
Hi there, looking at the same system for my 100. Is there any difference in the note or does it still sound stock?
@@calumliew8243 It sounds a little more deep, but you dont notice it if you have the windows up.We did 3K Km's to S.A and we noticed no sound difference.We got the quiet one.Haven't notice more power, not sure about fuel economy as we towing.This is part one of the build, next will be intercooler and then unichip and tune, but I'm in no rush as this costs a motsa!, also car need a paintjob..
@@calumliew8243 It's a great system. Yeah, there definitely is a big difference in the sounds for sure. A much deeper and more pronounce V8 tone for sure.
@@Mixos_place thanks so much for your reply.
sat behind a 200 with a manta and it’s definitely a show pony gimmick exhaust, there are better and quieter exhausts that do the same job.
Haha, yeah I’m sure if I kept a standard size and amount of mufflers that came from Toyota then it would be much quieter. I choose this for the sound and increased volume and I love it! Would buy it again if I had my time again!
What noise volume did you choose, quiet, medium or loud? Thanks
Hey mate, I choose the medium level. I go over all the parts and exactly what system I ordered in this video: ua-cam.com/video/yPKKr9aZwfw/v-deo.html
Great video mate, did u have a look at their dual outlet model? Also I have been told it's worth doing a 2" lift to fit the 3" pipe, did u do that?
Thanks mate.
So yeah, had a look at their dual outlet models too, the only reason I chose this option was that the dual outlet model can restrict options for long ranger tanks and other accessories down the track if I choose to fit some.
Also, yes, 2" ARB OME BP-51 suspension lift, this is highly recommended if fitting an exhaust this large.
@@XploringOz yeah, agree with the restriction on future accessories. Looks like I better put suspension on the list first then, may as well do the GVM upgrade as well....cheers for the info
@@XploringOz Dual 3" Manta LC200 'Extreme' system is significantly more rowdy for zero actual performance gain over the 2 into 1 you installed. Fortunately given the incredible job Toyota have done to reduce interior noise it's still not at all annoying nor any significant drone inside. Cheers
Of topic have you done any under body protection 🍺👍
Hey mate, underbody protection is not something I have done and personally probably not something I will look at doing in the future. I don't find myself rock crawling and in areas where I might require it and it only complicates servicing and add's weight. Might not be needed for my applications, but certainly useful for others. It's all about how you use your vehicle.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nathan, thanks for vids and information... just a question off topic to this vid but how is you under bonnet second battery going? Fullriver maint free.. I watched a vid from you in 2019 regarding this setup... is it still going strong.... ? Lithium’s are good but won’t last under the bonnet for their full expected long life and for the price , prob worth staying with agm?
Cheers mate 👍
So yes, the battery is still going strong and happy with the choice. I put the exact same battery is the Prado build as well, back in 2017 and it’s also still going strong (also under bonnet). I too like the idea of lithium, just waiting some some heat efficiency improvements and lower costs 👍
@@XploringOz cheers mate
Hey Nathan, is the 2" lift pretty much a requirement for the exhaust, or can I get away with installing the exhaust without a lift and then look at adding a lift 6months down the track?
Hey mate, from what I understand, if you plan on 4WD'ing with the vehicle and will likely expect some articulation in the rear axle then you may risk damage to that rear tail pipe section that curves over the rear axle. This section of pipe is 4" in diameter and would take much to damage.
My advice would be to probably hold off until you have the suspension lift, but it wouldn't hurt to confirm this with Manta.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hey boss please how much do you sale this car
M8 fantastic video well done
Thanks mate 👍
What size and offset wheels are they please mate
Hey mate, these are Method NV305's +25 offset. 18x9'' wheel. Tyres at a 305/65 18 BFG AT KO3
@@XploringOz legend, looks wicked
@@blaketoby6450 Cheers mate, really happy with how they look. The only negative is the availability of those tyres... they are a hard item to replace out bush...
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