Westeros.org on House of the Dragon Season 2, Episode 1: A Son for a Son
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Westeros.org returns after a long hiatus, roused like ancient dragons from their caverns. Not a review, just a discussion! In this episode we'll provide a brief recap of the episode, followed by discussing a few of the changes from FIRE AND BLOOD, some added background details concerning passing references in the show, and some dragon facts!
We are interviewing showrunner Ryan Condal this week, so if you have any questions for him, or general questions for us about the episode, put them in the comments!
Good to see you back Elio & Linda!!
Returning home to Winterfell was incredibly gratifying. The opening scene was filled with emotion, and it was heartwarming to see Lord Cregan holding the Stark family sword, Ice. I cannot wait to see the rest of the season ❤
I'm so glad to see you two back again, I always look forward to your thoughts on these episodes
Glad you like them!
I look forward to these recaps as much as the show itself. Glad you're back!
It's frustrating to see these episodes just being shy of being great, they somehow mess up things like blood and cheese in this one or rhaenys coming through the floor
Curious how you felt about how Blood and Cheese was handled, in terms of the lack of any guards, Helaena's reaction, the removal of Maelor and therefore of the choice, etc... Personally I thought it was quite disappointing, and I say this as someone who really enjoyed Season 1 despite its flaws. I know you guys don't want to formally "review" the show but maybe a short highs and lows segment for each episode?
Our recent interview with Ryan Condal, newly-posted, does get into some of these aspects. I think some aspects of the changes I can understand, especially when he discusses the practical side when using child actors.
Delighted to see both back & looking well! Looking forward to exploring season 2 with you.
I'm not much into this series. Idk, I'm just wary and tired of milking the cow that Westeros has become. However, I'm very glad to see you guys. It's always a pleasure to listen to you.
If you have ran out of ideas, I would love if you could do a series of book analysis of ASoIaF series. I know you have done a few videos on some subjects, but I was thinking to do a complete chapter by chapter analysis, for each book.
Milking the cow? It's been literally ONE show, with 1 airing it's SECOND season. How the fuck is that milking?
Torrhen made the tradition after the steady stream of recruits dropped after the Conquest - thought a nifty idea
It's great to have y'all back!
Thanks!
I'm very pleased you've resumed the task of shedding some light not only on each episode, but also on the source material. Perhaps "DUTY ABOVE ALL" should be the words of your house 😅.
As for my questions for Mr Condal: Is the managing of a major production comparable to managing a kingdom?
Great to see you guys back! And good to see Elio's still holding out on the last seasons of GOT, wise man lol
Thanks, Yousseph!
I missed you guys so much ! I’m so happy you uploaded, I recently got my younger brother into asoiaf and he finished and even got the world book and I was telling him I was watching your guys channel when that book was releasing and that your guys reviews and lore videos were my favorites. I would love to hear more about your thoughts about the new successor shows and maybe more predictions for winds of winter or where you see the books going in general! Thanks
Thanks, Hamid!
So glad you guys are back! (been a fan of y'all since 2014 now) Always good to here your ASOIAF content✅️
And as to new stuff would love to hear your takes when "reviewing" the show and drawing parallels from previous civil wars/ conflicts the Targaryens experienced previous to the dance (Maegor's wars, the "Dornish wars" Aenys' reign etc) from the books and to what the show depicts
Thanks, Geoffrey! Interesting suggestion, too.
25:35 - i suspect the goal with the scorpions is more realistically to hit the rider at a great distance
Oh I've missed the two of you...I love listening to your commentary on the shows and would love to hear you do commentary on the books. Your keen insights alone would be worth the listen.
Nice to see you back, what dragons did Balerion fight btw? 23:02
Maegor the Cruel rode Balerion against his nephew, Prince Aegon, who rode the dragon Quicksilver. Balerion tore Quicksilver apart during the Battle Beneath the Gods Eye, and Quicksilver and Aegon fell to their deaths.
I LOVE watching you analyzing the episodes
Thanks, Javi!
Great to see you guys again.
Eyyy.. Elio and Linda are back!
Glad we’re back
How do they manage to ruin that scene? Like, this scene one would have thought would have been the perfect thing for TV writers. Relatively cheap, maximum impact. Yet they decide to tone it down? Why? Why would they do that? Just bizarre.
There are perhaps some answers in the interview we've just posted with him. Whether they satisfy or not, I can't say, but I think he was pretty forthright about the considerations that had to go into how to depict it.
So great to see you both xx
Thank you!
welcome back guys!
Thank you!
They need aSirius Black, when the blood is up from battle rage, this heart is where you live Vhagar, this heart this, heart here
Welcome back!
Thanks!
9:54 well the Dornish are so hot-blooded
I actually have a question about the episode, though I'm not sure it can be answered by someone else than the production team.
Was there a reason there wasn't any guard in the royal quarters when we Blood and Cheese sneak around in there? We see Kingsguards down in the throne room with Aegon, but none up there except for Criston Cole being "busy" with Alicent, and no Hightower guards. It just seems a bit convenient, especially being on the verge of war, I can't imagine Otto or anyone in charge not tightening the security, especially for protecting every member of the royal family, including Queen Helaena and her children.
We've now done our interview with Ryan -- we'll have it up in a few days -- and we asked some questions about Blood and Cheese, which I think contains some good answers to many fan questions about the adaptation choices. We specifically get into the guard issue, as well, though YMMV on whether his answer resolves your questions.
@@WesterosTV Awesome! Can't wait to watch the interview
Glad to have you back! You could present other fantasy stories while House of the Dragon is off air! By the way, will you be travelling to Santa Fe soon for the party?
No, I was already in the US earlier this year. I would not put too.much stock on rumor sites.
11:57 - a man might not like the taste of fish but when fish is served he eats it
Well look who it is
thank you !
I’m prefer minimalist title cards of white text on black background. Because the Truth is black and white.
Understandable. What about a decade of the same 'ol, decided to have some fun and change it up a little!
@@WesterosTV I miss Breeze. And his interruptions.
Long time no see!
Chekov's scorpion
And I still think that Elio should watch seasons 6 to 8 and do reaction videos for every single episode! He kinda pusseyed out there a bit! I mean it's a free country but if we had to suffer through it, then so should Elio! And it would be entertaining for us. And at the end of the day, that's all that counts! #justsayin'
I just can't hate watch, I'm afraid!
Hi Elio & Linda. Out of curiosity. Do you know if at this juncture in the story if Cregan Stark is The Warden Of The North? Is that a concept yet in Westeros?
Torrhen was the first. And yes Cregan holds that title. Reckon before him. 😊
What Edward says -- he carries the title as all Lords of Winterfell have since Torrhen.
Please lean more towards faithful adaptation with the canon parts of the story.
Hi, missed you
Cole’s role as Alecent’s ‘toy boy’ feels significantly out of character - given his fallout with Rhaenyra was based on his moral grounds as knight of the kings guard to not be exactly what he is to the Queen. Though Alecent ‘lets him off’ his transgressions in S1, and perhaps Cole sees her words and actions as law - it feels very out of character.
Also, who knew one’s hair could grow so significantly when flying north (jacaeyrs)
I think the Criston Cole of 15 years after Rhaenyra is a much darker and more jaded person, in part because of how he processed that experience. His willingness to ignore his vows now with Alicent may also, to some degree, just be a kind of punishment as well as a pleasure -- a constant reminder that his flesh is weak and his vows are meaningless. That's my read, anyways.
I'm not going to blame the show for getting rid of a wig. Harry's natural curling hair is way better than the wig they had him in in season 1.
I can definitely see this- Cole’s sense of self, the morals on which he had once built himself - have been shattered by Rhaenyra. His hatred for her now is very blind, though, given he is in exactly the same arrangement with Alicent that he could’ve been in with Rhaenyra - minus a bit of the shame (the admission of guilt). Though he is a very emotionally driven character, and, I suppose, logic and rationale have been replaced by that blind anger for Rhaenyra. I suppose he blames Rhaenyra for what he has become, and the more he disregards his vows, the more his hatred of Rhaenyra grows.
Huzzah!
Watching this show just further highlights how out of their depth those two idiots were running GOT.
fans don't want to notice how flawed Hotd is! because they need to elevate this show out of spite for Benioff and Weiss.
@@wserthmar8908 nope
Second season started with blunder and turned into parody of itself.
With toned down fantasy elements and politics , without improving characters, only soap opera drama remains.
welcome back guys!