Northern Chinese vs Southern Chinese
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- There are many cultural differences in China and this is very apparent between the North and the South.
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My parents are from southern China (Canton). I am not an expert but I think Cantonese cuisine emphasizes on the natural flavor of the food. For example, if you are eating fish, you want to taste the fish. Dumplings, noodles and such are indeed tasty, but I don't think I can go a few days without eating rice.
Yes! When cantonese ppl cook we cook to enhance the flavor. If we r paying for a lobster we want to taste the natural flavor of the lobster. If we r cooking steak, we want to taste the steak itselve. We don't want a thousand lb of sauce drowning over our dish
Yeah my parents are the same way. They put a strong emphasis on the freshness of food and they try to keep recipes simple but flavorful. All the dishes my mom cooks have subtle flavors, but when you eat it often you learn taste the simplistic natural richness.
Yes, I actually always eat rice. I can not go on a dinner with rice. Rice for life.
霜夜 彬 That is actually very accurate indeed! We don’t like changing the taste much at all. We want a natural flavour out of the food we eat.
Same I don't think I can live without rice
Thumbs up for Felicia!!!
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Fuck yeah Aussie Chinese girls!!
***** Do you mean Carmen?
***** yes all Aussie-Asians are related
***** i miss carmen too!!!
Thumbs up for Team Dan!
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Southern food is quality food. Fresh vegetables and seafood. In my opinion southern food is so much better. Dim sum, seafood, just everything is so good. Northern food is so hot. They need that heat to cover up the taste of bull frog and other strange meats. Some northern dishes have mouth numbing peppers etc. So Team Dan all the way!
Southern food is fresher and more delicate. People care how a dish looks in addition to its tastes. When you look at the desserts糕点, they are almost like art! And the taste is not too heavy (northern food is either too salty or too spicy or too sour or too much garlic or a combination of these), so definitely healthier!!
Yangtze Rive really?? Not Qinling-Huaihe (秦岭淮河一线) Line??
Thumbs up for Team Mike!!!!
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Northern Food for the Win!
Northern food!
Dumplings, Noodles and Skewers rule. Hebei represent.
I love northern food!!!
I think it's funny that Mike roots for the North and Dan for the South when - going by their looks - Mike looks like he's from the South and Dan from the North.
Totally
Actually both of them look pretty northern. I'd say Felicia looks the most southern out of the three of them though shes a mix of north and south
Dan looks southern
goshadowkenny that is so honestly true.
So jackie chan is from north if i got this right and jet li is south
Is it just me or does the guy with the Vancouver shirt look like Jackie Chan?
+That T-shirt Guy too true
+That T-shirt Guy My daughter was like 5y.o. and while watching a report on China said: "Thank's God I was not born in China" "Why sweetheart?" "Cause I would never know who were my father and mother"
+That T-shirt Guy That could be construed as racist, except... he really DOES look like Jackie Chan!
agree!
his youtube id is literally Mickie Chan, b/c of his resemblance to jackie
America is the same way. Americans from the South have their own unique style of Southern foods, dating, marriage standards, spirituality, language, dialects, and everything. It's amazing how similar China and America are in that respect.
Triumvirate888 My sister took human geo and she said how there are patterns in human populations. Not entirely sure why, but apparently there are reasons.
silveryfeather208
I think that reason is called "human nature". Doesn't make it any less amazing. Knowing the mechanism behind something only makes it more astonishing. It's like how the more you know about painting, the more you are amazed at the genius of a Rembrandt.
So many countries are like that, it's not an american and chinese thing. When you look at India with its difference from the North and South. Or Iran with it's North and South.
xinyiquan666 You should read the original poster's comment.
Im pretty sure, most if not ALL countries of the world are like that ...
Like if you're Southern Chinese!
If you are, which province or area of China?
(I'm from Fuzhou, Fujian)
I'm from Fuzhou as well!
shanghai :D
I'm from Fuzhou,Fujian too!! More specifically Guan Tou
im a quarter southern Chinese does that count?
Eeyy ! Me too 😊 fujian,fuzhou 😅
Southern China ! Who else is cantonese here :)?
I'm cantonese! But I'm located more south than southern china. Descendants of southern china immigrants in singapore. Woot!
Canto team 😁
im a quarter Cantonese does that count?
Canto here
I'm cantonese! *high five*
How can one claim spicy to be a northern flavor?!! That's totally Southern (Hunan, Sichuan, Guizhou). Hot Pot is definitely Southern (Sichuan). Wanton, oh please, it's also Southern (Canton, Fujian). Northern food is salty, then what? more salty.
This is a poorly researched video.... They dont really know the difference cuz as felicia say, they grew up in western cultures
Chill
then u may dont know Shaanxi, Gansu, Xinjiang they all have spicy food... u also poorly researched about it, so calm down. and if you really know about the geography of hot food in china, then the South East of China, Yunnan, Guizhou... they also have hot food. So it is more like Western Chinese food (hot) vs. East Coast Chinese food (non-hot) and yes im from beijing, traditionally we dont take hot food, so I do agree with you that northen food from where i am is more about soy sauce flavoured, and it is salty....
Chinese people on the whole are pretty good at eating spicy food, but the southern half is known for eating well.
I wonder if this relates to northern climates in general. My family originally came from Scandinavian (Sweden, Norway, Finland). During the holidays we'd have traditional Scandinavian dishes which were: boiled cabbage, boiled beets, boiled potatoes and lefse a very thin, chewy (undercooked) pancake made with potatoes and flour. One of the specialty dishes was luetefisk. Literally Lye fish. Traditionally, it was prepared by drying whitefish and burying it in lye as a preservative, which jellified the fish and gave it a slightly metallic, soapy taste.
It's not surprising that Scandinavia was the land of the Vikings. The only way you could get something good to eat was by getting in a boat and raiding more southernly countries that had access to spices, different types of foodstuffs, better cooking technology and a long established culinary culture. If you died in at sea or in the raid? Oh, well, at least you weren't stuck back home eating lye fish.
It is not Yangzi River，it should be QinLing Huaihe (秦岭淮河). Come on，how can you mistake this if you are going to introduce what is south and what is north. You don't even figure out the right boundary!
About hot pot, obviously, Sichuan province and Chongqin are as good as the northern cities. Actually, their hotspot are more popular!
I think it depends. I am a Chinese, and I don't usually eat those hotpots since they are too spicy. It sounds a little dicriminative toward the rest of the China.
hahahahhaha. i love hotpot but i'm from Lanzhou
Wen Z hang China history are fakes just like most of world history.
Wen Z hang Yeah! It disturbs me that they use the wrong boundary
for us Cantonese, outside GuangDong, it's Northern China
+鄉講仁 how about HaiNan lol
+鄉講仁 For rest of Southern Chinese, everywhere South of China except Guang Dong.
hahh, you are hilarious...its like in a class which has 10 boys and 10 girls, and you are saying I am the only girl and the rest are all boys. no matter what you girls think, I believed tho, lol
True. I actually still think that way. Out of GuangDong is northern china, or as I call it, the mainlanders.
ahhahah that's true. And one more thing is that as long as the guy whocan't speak Cantonese，he must be from northern china（no matter you are from hainan or other southern place）😂
the physical differences are huge, the noses and the shape of the eyes are so different between north and south, also southerners tend to be more tanned. I live in Taiwan for 2 years and now I'm living in Sichuan, people is SO different really.
They're both in the South, lmao.
Sichuan is a southerner
don't get too stereotypical on this matter. Domestic migration within China is far more complex than you think.
How are the noses and shape of the eyes different from the southerners vs northerners? Can you be more specific? Thanks. :)
@@amyr3285something easy to imagine is north is more like korean eyes and noses and south is more like vietnamese eyes and noses
I'm not chinese but I'm fascinated by the diversity within that country. I was really interested in your video and plan to visit you again to learn more. I'm Puerto Rican born and raised in Ohio in the USA but our household was very traditional Puerto Rican customs, traditions, food, language, manner of dressing (modestly) but when it came to my education and school friends it was like stepping into another world.
Down in ohio 💀
I've lived in Shanghai, and I'm Italian…I'm looking forward to go back there.
I totally LOVE Shanghai, I've travelled a lot, and I can totally see why you pointed out these differences, because they're reeeeeally true.
Also one thing for me super surprising at the beginning were those park full of parents trying to find a wife or a husband for their sons and daughters, with billboards in which mainly there were written proprieties of the person, like if they had car license or not, if they had a car, a bicycle, a house, a job and what…there was something written about education, but was mainly about material stuff.
I love your videos btw
Shanghai non è Cina, lo è solo dal punto di vista amministrativo
absolutely!!most CHINESE parents are helicopter parents
Happy to see that you love Shanghai.
@luigispina6693 😂😂😂😂 che Cosa ?? Posa il vino 😂
Sooner south india too needed those kind of parks. Unmarried guys are expecting that
My grandfather and ancestors are from Fujian province. They migrated to the Philippines during the war. Hokkien is greatly spoken by most Filipino-Chinese and Chinese living in the Philippines. Mandarin is taught in Chinese schools here but most of us speak and understand Hokkien better as it is the language our relatives spoke.
Wow. I did not expect filipino chinese to know mandarin at all
In the French Concession in Shanghai during the 1920's, the French authorities had a unit of riot police manned by northern Chinese (from the Beijing ang Manchuria regions, apparently), because they were considered taller and more physically imposing than the Shanghainese. Seems like Dan's not the only one with that impression.
It's because of their diet northerners eat more meat.
It is fantastic that you guys openly and fairly discuss all kind of topics and issues that are mysteries to waiguoren, lol. I am learning the hard part about living in or visiting China: the cultural part. Language is one thing, culture something else again. So, thanks for the amusing and instructive videos!
Definitely South, no questions about it. First of all, the very fact of it being linguistically diverse shows that not only "being southern" is paradoxically not exactly a thing, but what unites them (even before the advent of Standard Mandarin) is the need to overcome communication and cultural barriers. Already, you have some cultural exchange in a region (think Central Europe with its diverse Slavic and Germanic peoples), which prepares them for the next big thing: worldliness. Shandong, Tianjin, and Dalian are coastal, and yet no-one speaks of a "Shandong diaspora" or a "Tianjin diaspora" the same way you hear about a "Cantonese diaspora" or "Overseas Hokkien". Southern peoples were the first to venture beyond the confines of continental China all across the world.
Contrast this with the North, which really exists as a thing because it is just so monolithic. Due to geography and culture, frontier elements from Mongol, Manchu, and Uighur/Muslim cultures seem to be absorbed unconsciously into the northern way of life without actually making a significant cultural impact. Because the North was the center of power for a long time, constantly having to deal with nomadic invaders as well as farming/pasturing for survival, I believe they are consequently less equipped to deal with the intricacies of polite society, so one could hardly blame them for being "direct" (i.e. brutish). Now, this wasn't always the case, as during the Silk Road times, Northern China had the same cosmopolitanism that we associate with Southern China today. Yes, Virginia - once upon a time, Xi'an was basically Shenzhen. But due to the development of history (and a few barbarian invasions), the North was relegated to the boonies while the South rose.
Southern and northern China are separated by qinling and huaihe. Jesus, you think Sichuan is in the north?
Actually it is usually regarded as part of norther China.
+Alex Guan impossible.Sichuan is a classical example for southern part
+DeGroff Tevie actually I we wrong. But so are you. It's western China
Alex Guan lol. .We usually define western China as 甘肃 山西 新疆 青海...
agreed. fact from geography class
Omg!!! Yay! Felicia in da house! Don't worry Dan, I'm on ur team! Lol go shanghainese XP
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The girl in beauty within is felicha????????
there's no way northern food is better than southern food...we got seafood and all kind of fruits, lychee and all that. That alone can end this argument.
Dalian is North and it's got plenty of seafood.
seafood in north is better..
@@yilongliu2353 Fishes travel across the ocean there isn't a specific location where it thrives.
Yes true southern Chinese food is more diverse. Cause of the climate which enables it to grow many things.
The main difference between the taste is that the northern dishes is more salty and the southern dishes are sweeter
Tiawan is an independent country.
If you could, I would love to see an episode where you talk about some of the lesser known peoples that make up China's over 50 ethnic groups. Especially some of the more surprising ones, like Uyghurs and Tajiks of Xinjiang for example.
I thought the guy on the right was Cantonese because he looked sort of like Jackie Chan, lol
hahaha same
***** are you sure ?i couldn't find any information about his ancESTRY
xinyiquan666 Jackie Chan had single eyelids before, he got surgery to make them double eyelids.
xinyiquan666 double eyelids are more common among southerners IMO
TheXanian Yup. Google "Qin Kai and He Chong". Shows the difference between Northern and Southern.
I'm Indian and I find this video very interesting because north and south India has some of the same differences you mention between the north and south of China.
+Avi Arun True, the same goes to Europeans as well, especially the height and skin pigmentation differences between north and south populations, but I think the difference between northern and southern Indians is greater than the difference between north and south Chinese,because ethnically India is way more diverse than China, be it north or south Chinese, no matter how different they are ,in the end they still grouped under same ethnic group.
Most of People who lives in Chinatown are Cantonese whom from southern China. The ridiculous thing is they are representing for a Whole China, considering the fact that They are so different from Mandarins.
That's because in the past, southern chinese were more adventurous in search of new opportunities in foreign lands. Cantonese immigrants travelled to many parts of the world, to the west and other parts of asia. In south east asia, most early chinese immigrants were teochew, hainanese, hakanese, fujianese and cantonese which are all southern chinese.
Southern Chinese people have smaller body because they were mixed blood with Southern tribes like the Baiyue people who were basically small bodied.
GRIM UA-cam Channel yeah the “real” Chinese look like skinny ass girls but aight
GRIM UA-cam Channel and northern Chinese are not pure “Han” as well as mongols Manchus and other northern nomadic populations also integrated with the northern populous, if you want a full blooded han, central China could be your “real” Chinese
So you actually thought that Cantonese and Mandarin are also... names of people??? man you are so funny
Felicia is very pretty.
She is Aussiefied ❤
Hot pot is not from the North. You guys need to have the fact checked. Hot pot is from Sichuan (south of China) ...
Hotpot is from the North. The spicy broth is from Sichuan.
@@chit-kwaiyuen6360 The broth is the essence of the dish so it plays a important part.
Is Mike from the same part of China as Jackie Chan? He looks like Jackie chan
+Boristos Jaxon Jackie Chan is from Hong Kong ,his dad was from somewhere that's quite close to where Mike is from.
Broken Chen Well that explains their similar looks
+Broken Chen But Jackie Chan's father is from Shandong.XD
+Boristos Jaxon they both have parents from northern China, does it count?
Warrior Son chan
You should do a video breaking down all the regions in china explaining their cuisine and such that would really interesting! Because there is so many ones and each is unique like Guangdong, Sichuan, Zhejiang, jilin along with hearing about western china(Xinjiang, tibet ext) which I don't think you have covered yet.
cheers!
I always though HK tv shows and films were full of bad acting/writing because the characters seemed so fake. Then I went to HK, hung out with my teenage cousins. Only then did I understand that the acting wasn't bad; that's just how people acted IRL. lol #princesssyndrome No hate. Cultural differences are interesting :-)
One of the most interesting topics on this channel because I've seen similar correlations between the western and eastern regions in Japan across all the aspects you discussed. I'm not trying to be politically correct but I love BOTH authentic northern and southern Chinese cuisine! And I love your fearlessly frank talk that breaks so-called taboo across all East Asian countries!
My parents are from Hainan Island. Not many people are familiar with the small island. So many people are so used to asking me if I strictly speak Cantonese and/or Mandarin. But I can speak both and Hainan as well.
north food - lets put chilli in everything because food tastes like shit
I'm Southern Chinese (Hong Kong) and personally I love northern food better x3
I actually think there's a difference between north and south Taiwan as well! My family is Taiwanese and there's always a lot of comparison on the people from the north (AKA Taipei) and everyone else. I'd love to see a comparison video!
ive been living in japan for a year now, i discover this channel today and heard Felicia talk. instnt homesick. the most strayan accent ever. i guess im so surprised as i dont seem to find many aussies on the youtubes.
The dividing line for Northern and Southern China is not the Yangtze. It's actually the Huai River(淮河). The major cities along the Yangtze coast are considered southern China. Off the Great Wall
it's interesting seeing the parallels between north and south china areas and the north and south of the united states
Forgot that northern chinese people have better sharper nose
The way I see it, Taiwan is part of China, but it’s simply not under the jurisdiction of the Communist Party. It’s the same way you can say that both South Korea and North Korea are part of Korea.
+Daniel Chen That's a strange way to see it. Because North Korea and South Korea, politically, are very different. So how can it be that they are 'part' of Korea? Then I could say Canada is a part of the United States. LOL
+silveryfeather208 most likely Korea as the Korean peninsula.
+Daniel Chen Nope. Because Taiwan isn't connected to China. South/North Korea are both part of a Peninsula, which makes up Korea. Same goes with Canada/United States. They are both part of the North American Continent.
+Ai´s CHANNEL (another stupid channel) Yup. People in China hate to hear of Taiwan being called a country. But Taiwan has its own government, president, military, constitution, laws, currency, passports, etc., so yes, Taiwan is a country.
+CNVideos more like north Cyprus and turkey.
just want to point out that wonton is definitely a southern/cantonese thing... even the word itself is in canto...
The north and south of China also had different warrior cultures. In the north, there was most use of siegecraft and cavalry in warfare while in the south there was a stronger emphasis on marines and naval combat.
Mike would gain 30 lbs if he visits Taiwan. I'm from there and absolutely love the food.
TW's food is so bad only the Night market's food is edible. I don't get what the hype is about. SEAsia food wins hands down.
you shut your face
Gee,how criticism friendly
Summary of my life as a Taiwanese American:
Gain 30 lbs
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I'm gonna visit my family next month. I'm scared of the weight I'll gain, but those Taiwanese breakfast sandwiches are so good. Why god, why is grandpas house on top of the best goose meat restaurant on earth?!? That goose liver on rice is not kind to my waistline.
You guys need to visit Thailand, M'sia or other SEA nations. TW food is overrated compared to them. Not to mention their japanese food is so bad even though they follow the japanese culture. How?
The provinces close to South East Asian have a lot of spicy foods too.
These guys are doing a great thing!
You probably didnt catch all the mistakes they made there then
Yixi Guan Then you didn't catch any mistakes they actually had.
The boundary is not Yangtz River, and according to geographics textbook in China, it is supposed to be Qingling Mountain-Huai River boundary.
Yes true.
In Vietnam we have many differences between north and south, and it’s very similar to northern and southern China.
One reason I think needs to be addressed is the weather, you find hardier people in snow, and you find more delicate people in warmer regions.
when I see a video about china, there are always have argumen about whether taiwan is a part of china. can we just don't talk about it.
Time will prove everything.
Why is that people r arguing about if Taiwan is a part of china. I to b honest think it's mostly. I'm from hk and we call ourselves Chinese. Taiwanese people speak mandarin and write in chinese characters so they r kinda in a way chinese. Hk and Taiwanese people both hav roots from china so remembering where ur roots r from. Because at the end of the day ur roots r what made u.
Taiwanese do identify themselves as Chinese ethnically (華人), just not in the sense of "I am part of China's citizens".
Yeah its really just a different system of governance its like the US and canada and the UK, different countries that are BFFs, you can kind of see taiwan as Mainland china's cheating ex girfriend
I know this comment is 6 years late but it seems like many people (mostly young people) are trying to promote as separate Taiwanese cultural identity nowadays, and video makers need to mention it since people get really heated over this type of thing for some reason.
Whether or not Taiwan is legally part of "China" it is culturally part of China even if it has its own unique brand of culture, just like the other regions of China.
I am not Chinese or Taiwanese or American, but I strongly believe Taiwan should unite again with China. Economic and political causes shouldn't be a reason for a country to split up.
luuchoo G thx.
luuchoo G Chinese unification is unlikely
luuchoo G that sounds like you should say that to North Korea... hmm...
agree
Northern China=Jackie Chan
Southern China=Bruce Lee
Lmaoooo
What we learned from school is "The geographical dividing line between northern and southern China is the Huai River-Qinling Mountains line. This line approximates the 0 degree January isotherm and the 800 mm isohyet in China." I'm a Chinese btw.
I come from Sichuan province. I always believe I come from south China, but according to the map you provide, I am from North China! Unbelievable!
No they got it wrong, it’s the qinling huaihe that’s the river they got the wrong river, Sichuan is southern
Isn't spicy food more like Sichuan / Hunan which is Southern China?
YummYakitori Exactly, which is why it's so ridiculous to group "Southerners" together in the first place!
BARRR Only southeast people don't like spicy food in china. they like sweet food and seafood.
is actually considered North
Ashley Song What? We eat mostly rice, we grow lychees and longans not to mention mangos and papayas, Chengdu is warmer than Shanghai and even Changsha in winter, how are we considered North?
xiaocaimingxia Yes, Chengdu is much warmer due to its valley effect. Chengdu it's inside the Sichuan Basin or 四川盆地. Hot scorching summer, but very cool winter.
Sorry mike I'm gona go with #teamdan with the food. Bc northern food is really in ur face n I be like 😤🙅 whoaaaaa get out of my face
Annie Wu Oh my, I actually agree.
This is SOO true! My entire family is from Northern China including me, and it's right on point!
I like both Northern and Southern Chinese food but if I had to pick one, I'd go with Southern food, mainly because I personally find that the taste of the food are more complex and they're very creative with how they use ingredients. If I wanted a hearty meal, I'd go for Northern food but yeah, they each have their own uniqueness.
my mum;s from the north and my dad's from the south ._.
Emma Cookie Hello!
You seem interesting to talk to.
Me too haha
30 lbs heavier,in Mike's case, a lot of that will be in muscle, so don't worry too much
So good to see visitors on the show
I prefer the lifestyle and the innovation of the south (I think the sea has allowed for a blend of ideas etc.) I prefer the food and morals of the north. I am generalizing completely though.
Is that Jackie Chan with his ears lowered?
Definitely need more of these type of videos! Maybe start comparing Chinese traditions from China vs Chinese traditions in Malaysia (from those that moved from China at the start of the 20th century)?
To be accurate, only compare Guangdong and Fujian region which isn't a whole lot different from Southeast Asia Chinese not to mention since OTGW is situated in the US and don't have any representative south of Shanghai, things are bound to get messed up.
I'm getting the notion, that Japan has more of a relation to southern china then north
with rice and tea ceremony all interesting
中國的南北分界線時秦嶺淮河，並不是長江，長江流域都屬於南方。
was going to make that comment too!
但是长江北岸，北方人文气息越来越重了。。
正是。
Taiwan is not part of PRC. It is part of China, same as PRC is part of China. PS. I am mainlander
超级大傻逼
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你骂死也没用，台湾本来就不是中共管的，国内洗脑严重。
台灣早就獨立了
+Tony Tang 独立了还要护照上贴纸建国啊？
+Tony Tang 联合国都没承认还瞎逼逼
My teacher says that northern girls are more tuff because they grew up in cities, while southern girls grew near rivers, making them more calm and mellow
For the last 1000 years, North [of the river] China had been mostly ruled by Hu-ren [Hu means "foreigner," and nomads]. First with Liao, then Jin [Jurchen], Yuan [Mongols ruled 40+ years before they took over the south], and Qing [ruled north again for a few decades before taking over the whole country].
I wouldn't be surprised for the Northern people would look a bit different, due to the Hu ren mixing with the Han.
I'm not from China but my ancestors are from Hainan island and Fujian
Yehezkiel Chan Nice! I'm in the same boat
I waiting for this comment. I traced my ancestor back to north east. I able to speak hainanese, fujian, cantonese, English and mandarin I from Singapore!
I'm from Singapore too! My ancestor are from Guangdong so they're probably Cantonese.
i half hainanese half fujian . i live in hongkong for 2 years due to fathers work
I'm not from china too ... But mum came from Fujian and gramma and gramps too
Taiwan is a part of China. This is written in the Japanese textbooks.
What? So confused....
Speaking as a Taiwanese girl here, I never thought of my mandarin as particularly "cutesy" until my Chinese and Singaporean friends pointed it out. So it's definitely not a deliberate attempt. But it definitely sounds gentler to my ears compared to say, the Beijing accent.
Lol when I was talking to mainland Chinese people about what a Taiwanese accent is supposed to sound like (since my mom is from Taiwan so my Mandarin is based on that) and that's what they said.
I agree I'm a Singaporean.
Did you guys know north east indians look like southern Chinese people??
So weird how behavioral differences between northern and southern china are so similar to the differences between the south and northeast America, what with northerners being more outspoken and independent and southerners being more tradition focused
I have no idea why this video aroused heated debate on whether Taiwan was politically a country. Anyway, I'd like to clarify some of the confusing issues (even if I have to offend both sides). The answer is actually "Yes" and "No", depending on how you look at it, _de jure_ and _de facto_.
_de jure_ - by the law
In this case, no, Taiwan *is not* a sovereign country. It's largely based on the membership of the United Nations. As you know, Taiwan is not a member state of UN. In terms of international recognition, Republic of China is only recognized by 21 UN members and the Holy See as of 2013. Countries like United States, Japan and so forth do not recognize Taiwan as an independent country on paper. Most importantly, Republic of China doesn't have and cannot practice certain rights that a country normally have, like joining international organizations, events or attending international conferences by the name of "Taiwan". Mostly likely it needs to attend those under the name of "Chinese Taipei", just like what Hong Kong does, under pressure from the People's Republic of China. Brainwashing Western propaganda would often neglect the _de jure_ view and tell you that Taiwan is an independent country, as it doesn't want a unified China.
_de facto_ - by actual governing
In this case the answer is largely a "yes" - Taiwan *is most likely* to be a sovereign country. Like Matt Schwartz said, Taiwan governs itself and has its own military. It decides its own economic, social and environmental policies, like taxation and social welfare. In other words, Taiwan in some way works like a country like others do. Xi Jinping still has no say on the internal affairs of Taiwan. For example, the failed Cross-Strait Service Trade Agreement - the PRC simple cannot forcefully impose the CSSTA on Taiwan. It still needs some bilateral diplomatic approach and agreement from both sides. And yet, PRC's intervention on Taiwan makes this issue a bit dubious. Brainwashing Chinese Communist propaganda would often neglect the current actual _de facto_ status of Taiwan and tell you that Taiwan is a province of China, as if the PRC already exerts full control over Taiwan. Obviously, the PRC just wants to unify China, and having support from its 1.35 billion people makes all things easier.
And to all mainland Chinese, cultural similarities like the language thing aren't reasons for a unified country, or otherwise all English speaking nations (the US, the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) or all Spanish speaking nations (Mexico, Spain, Argentina, Chile, etc.) would be one country. Ethnicity isn't a reason either, or otherwise Tibet should have been an independent country in the first place.
Sorry to offend both sides. I just want to be objective and don't look at things in a one-sided way. Stop the tedious debate please - It's just like the blind feeling different parts of an elephant. *Both sides are correct*. If you insist on arguing in a different perspective, there will be no conclusion, for it isn't a straightforward yes or no question like you've previously thought.
Lastly, for the people (someone is Taiwanese or Chinese or both?), the definition is quite sentimental. A person thinks he is Taiwanese, and then he is a Taiwanese. A person thinks he is Chinese, and he is a Chinese indeed. This subjective thing shouldn't have flared up any argument. An important inspiration for the mainland Chinese - even if the PRC successfully captured Taiwan by force, the Communist Party couldn't make Taiwanese Chinese ideologically. Their mindsets aren't to be changed by force, but by soft power. This means the Communist Party needs to make China attractive (in this case the way to achieve it would probably be further economic developments, less corruptions, democracy, being more environmentally friendly,etc.), and Taiwanese might be likely to accept their Chinese identities by then. If the CCP forcefully annexed Taiwan, the best scenario would be Hong Kong's Occupy Central movement, or even worse, war again (which caused China's lagging behind other countries).
ROC宪法了解一下？
Got to say - you three clearly missed a whole cuisine of Sichuan food. Even northerns that I met would admit this is the best food in china..
Same. I like spicy food
One of my favorite cuisine in the world
Damn, this is strangely similar to the differences in northern and southern Americans.😱 American/Chinese mirror dimension. ⚡️💜🤫🌎🌏
Agreed
I was gonna say its the same in Mexico the northern part the people are lighter skinned more mixed with european and the southern are way darker and more shorter native like. Same with countries like India the north punjabi are light skinned and southern indians are dark.
Nope, because American is a migrate country, northerners and southerners were probably from same country before they came to America. But China is not a migrate country, people from different place are originally different, that's pretty same as Indian
Actually there is more physical difference between Northern Chinese and Southern Chinese. Southern Chinese skulls are generally rounder than Northern Chinese. Also Southern Chinese are more likely to have bigger eyes and darker skin than Northern Chinese.
No, actually you guys were wrong at the very beginning. Geographically the division between north and south china is the line formed by Qin Mountains and Huai River.
Why do you keep insisting Taiwan is not part of China? According to both PRC and ROC governments, Taiwan is part of China and vice versa. The fact that the two governments are not exactly completely in accord at the moment (I hope they will have better relations in the future) is irrelevant in this matter.
Anyway, great video, as always. Keep up the good work o7
one of my favorite food in the world is cantonese
Taiwan is china too they just have political differences like Puerto Rico and the us!
Omg Mike we're so alike !!!! I have such a bad memory, especially for faces !! Once I watched a short movie and a same actor was playing 2 versions of himself, dressed differently... I didn't get the whole movie until the end because I thought that they weren't the same guy ! For the quality, that video was great, so informative. I did know there were food differences between the north and south but had no idea that there could be any other ! I thought Shanghai and Beijing would be the same atmosphere, so I really learned something from this video :) Apart from the accent, I grew up in Taiwan and in Beijing and I must say that it's 2 different worlds for the accents hahah ! I remember, we first lived in Taiwan and then moved to Beijing : my brother was born when we were already in Beijing, and he would always talk like this "ayiiiiii wo yaor qu wannrrr!!!!" ^^" ! For the food, I don't have preferences for anything, love all of them, couldn't choose. But I do have a soft spot for Taiwan though, Mike let's go live there and fill our bellies and cause starvation ! Hahahah
Enjoyed this. Pleasant surprise. Keep it up!
I'm going to share some of my thoughts on this. Start with physical differences
Southern Chinese: Shorter, weaker epicanthic folds, larger eyes, smaller and shorter face, nose is wider, and lips are thicker
Northern Chinese: Taller, stronger folds, smaller eyes, longer and larger face, nose is narrower and smaller, and thinner lips
Why is everyone in this comment section from Southern China? Where the hell are my Northerner friends?
+Chenxin Yuan
Here！Me！From the Northeast part!
+Chenxin Yuan Oh,sorry,i'm your backup,i'm in the south east Go Go north!
ME! From Liaoning :)
Northerners don't really know about vpn lol
Chenxin Yuan Sorry, Hun. Southern China just outnumbered you for a while.
Though in my school, no one is a southern. Or they're mostly all Korean.
Sichuan claims the spicy food bruh TEAM MIKE
I just want to clarify that Mandarin, Cantonese, Taiwanese, Shanghainese they are languages, not dialects. Chinese is a group of languages in China.
Firstly Taiwanese is not a language, its called Hokkien. Same thing Hong Kongese speak Cantonese not a language called Hong Kongese. Secondly, all those Chinese dialects are related hence its called Dialects not Languages.
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Each differs as well
Here that on average people in the southern provinces of China are shorter on average then the people in the northern regions of China. But that doesn't mean that southern Chinese are short IMO it is just that the northern Chinese, especially in Shandong are so tall. I feel like young adults from the southern provinces of China are on average as tall as white Americans and most Europeans, especially in southern and western Europe around 175 cm to 178 cm for men. This is my experience anyway as a white American. The northern Chinese are just tall with 180 cm to 183 cm basically like average with Shandong looking maybe 185 cm for men and the women 170 cm in Shandong. Saw a website called sixthtone showing data from 2013 with it saying that Chinese men between the ages of 20 to 25 having 56% of men between 175 cm to 180 cm and this is for all of China. So southern provinces of China really isn't short it is just that northern provinces of China have alot of tall people and even tall when compared to Europe's tall populations like in Holland and the Scandinavian countries.
Really the only short population of Chinese from what I see as a white American man are the Chinese senior citizen aged population from the southern provinces of China. Most young adult Chinese people in southern China as of now in the 2020s are as tall 175 cm for men in their shorter provinces of southern China as white Americans men 175 cm with their taller provinces in southern China slightly taller then white American men at around 178 cm for men. We have seen white American men at 177 cm for average height to as low as 175 cm for average height but the 175 cm average height had a much larger data pool and as a 170 cm white American man the 175 cm average height for white American men to me seems more accurate when I walk around in the general population here in the USA.
Sorry to disappoint you haters out there. But as the official name of Taiwan implies (Republic of China), the island is part of China. Please notice it neither says the Republic of Taiwan nor Republic of Formosa. As far as I’m aware, the island has been under the Qing rule since 1683. The Japanese took over in 1895, but the ROC took control in 1945 under the leadership of Chiang Kai-Shek. No countries have recognized the island as an independent state. Despite the fact that Taiwan has a different political system from the Mainland, it is still considered a part of China. :P
Have a good day!
Matt Schwartz Which countries recognize Taiwan as an independent state? According to the UN, Taiwan is not a country despite most Taiwanese and westerners think Taiwan is a country. In terms of determining whether a piece of land is a country, it is always based on historical claims and world leaders' decisions, not what people think.
Henry Zhang You're asking for information that Taiwan governs itself and has its own military? Do you seriously not know this?
Matt Schwartz Taiwan is qualified to be a country, but historically and politically, Taiwan is part of China. Only 21 countries and Holy See recognize Taiwan as a country.
Typical stupid brainwashed red guard. No logic with your argument whatsoever.
Yunfei Zhao i dont understand why taiwanese want to be independent so much their economy is nothing without china. look at how tiny the island is.
“厄似陕西人” very standard XD
+Kev J OMG I died at that point
BEIJING ren here!!!
It is actually not the Yangtze River, but the Huai River that seperates the northern and southern China
So funny at 2:12, that northern Chinese speak like pirates (by adding "er" to words). Great conversation!
U three all have northern face.
Taiwanese girls be like 'Aiyoooooooooo' all the time hehe
哎哟！
I'm with the South all the way, especially Cantonese/Yue culture. Even the Tang Dynasty, the Golden Age of China, spoke Cantonese and Min. That should tell you something about the authenticity of the Southern people and culture.
keep bullshitting Linguists from the whole world are very pride of you right now
Am I the only one that thinks the girl looks like Donnie Yen?
A lot of these characteristics seem similar to how it is with American Northerners vs Southerners as well
Jacob L. I think in terms of dialects, the difference is much larger in Chinese. If you are a Chinese, according to the accent a person speaks, you can easily tell which province or even which city (s)he is coming from. For people from the further southern part, although the language is the same, same grammar, same spoken words, and same writing system, but the pronunciation ls so different, it may sounds just like another language.