Oh this is awesome I can’t wait to watch it! Just stumbling across your content. I’m an old school modern player who has kept thier old 4c Gifts Control intact. I’ve updated here and there but still love the loam and ravens crime package of old. Thanks for posting this! Even if only win a little this will be so satisfying to see old Gifts Ungiven in action!
I used to play Gifts in Modern years and years ago and don't play Modern anymore so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. My first reaction was you need more instant speed removal, cutting Jace, and the Thopter package seems incredibly slow. Not 100% sure about Counterspell but you mentioned that too. I would be curious if Archon of Cruelty and maybe Persist/Noxious Revival would be a good package. Could play your own Bowmasters too bc it lines up well against other Bowmasters lol. Also, I really like having 3 wrath type effects to grab or more silver bullets. Regardless, cool idea and video!
Oh you don't need to convince me, you're absolutely right. I was very greedy with this build, mostly trying some things out, but it needs a lot of changes. I think the 3 wrath name thing is probably correct.
Definitely could go down on the Jaces, then add in a couple solitude This deck seems impossibly slow, even when u rites / gifts was a thing the deck was playing either with a tron shell or playing birds of paradise / death rite shaman and still was operating about a turn too slow to generally be competitive I really like the deck, it looks like a lot of fun, but it's just not something I'd expect to win with. My general advice would be to play with more pitch cards, cut a lot of the slower stuff like thopter sword and Jace, then be a faithless looting / goryos deck with the whole gift scheme as a backup plan (probably still not competitive)
Also fwiw 3 reanimation targets / 1 u rites seems really clunky, usually a streamlined list just plays 1 and 1. Would be better in the aforementioned goryo's / persist shell with say 4 atraxa / 1 iona for instance.
It's sweet but this is way too greedy. The whole point of Gifts is that it lets you dedicate very few slots to win cons and it works at instant speed. You have way too many win cons and slow grindy tap out stuff like lingering souls. Need to trim the fat and play fatal pushes and other cheap interaction or maybe some cantrips so that snapcasters aren't dead draws when you don't have exactly prismatic ending in hand
Oh this is awesome I can’t wait to watch it! Just stumbling across your content. I’m an old school modern player who has kept thier old 4c Gifts Control intact. I’ve updated here and there but still love the loam and ravens crime package of old. Thanks for posting this! Even if only win a little this will be so satisfying to see old Gifts Ungiven in action!
Glad you like it! Don't get your hopes too high though, it's a greedy first build and I make a lot of mistakes, haha.
Nice one of my first modern decks from way back when have all my from the vaults gifts ungiven just so slow but it can cast it out it’s good
Seems cool but id cut jace, lingering souls, thopter foundry package for more control pieces
I made a lot of play mistakes with this. Some was due to some technical distractions, but most to not playing tightly. 😅
I used to play Gifts in Modern years and years ago and don't play Modern anymore so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. My first reaction was you need more instant speed removal, cutting Jace, and the Thopter package seems incredibly slow. Not 100% sure about Counterspell but you mentioned that too. I would be curious if Archon of Cruelty and maybe Persist/Noxious Revival would be a good package. Could play your own Bowmasters too bc it lines up well against other Bowmasters lol. Also, I really like having 3 wrath type effects to grab or more silver bullets.
Regardless, cool idea and video!
Oh you don't need to convince me, you're absolutely right. I was very greedy with this build, mostly trying some things out, but it needs a lot of changes. I think the 3 wrath name thing is probably correct.
Definitely could go down on the Jaces, then add in a couple solitude
This deck seems impossibly slow, even when u rites / gifts was a thing the deck was playing either with a tron shell or playing birds of paradise / death rite shaman and still was operating about a turn too slow to generally be competitive
I really like the deck, it looks like a lot of fun, but it's just not something I'd expect to win with. My general advice would be to play with more pitch cards, cut a lot of the slower stuff like thopter sword and Jace, then be a faithless looting / goryos deck with the whole gift scheme as a backup plan (probably still not competitive)
Also fwiw 3 reanimation targets / 1 u rites seems really clunky, usually a streamlined list just plays 1 and 1. Would be better in the aforementioned goryo's / persist shell with say 4 atraxa / 1 iona for instance.
Or 4 archon / 1 terastadon or what have you in the persist shell. Just my thoughts
I think you're right, I packed it with too may greedy cards and cards I like. I used to play the mana dork version and had some success long ago.
It's sweet but this is way too greedy. The whole point of Gifts is that it lets you dedicate very few slots to win cons and it works at instant speed. You have way too many win cons and slow grindy tap out stuff like lingering souls. Need to trim the fat and play fatal pushes and other cheap interaction or maybe some cantrips so that snapcasters aren't dead draws when you don't have exactly prismatic ending in hand
This sounds correct. I had push in an earlier build, but I think it's right to back.
This sounds correct. I had push in an earlier build, but I think it's right to back.