I've had this problem for 4 years on my car, turns out the timing chain upper guide was not only broken where the housing screws were, but the top guide was 30% snapped off! $8 later and I'm in tears of joy without a check engine light that's been on for 4 years! Hopefully now it's better! Thank you for showing this, considering I've had so many mechanics stumped on this!
I had the exact same problem! Been chasing that noise and power reduction for months and multiple mechanics told me there was nothing wrong. Took it upon myself to fix it and found the same issue you displayed. Really appreciate the noise comparison at the end, it's super useful!
My 2014 Cruze was clattering like an old school diesel, with uneven acceleration. My mechanic said the noise was a problem deep in the engine, too much trouble to repair, and to drive it until it dies. I followed your advice instead, plus swapped in a new valve cover & gasket (to avoid the known PVC vacuum leak problem with this engine) and spark plugs (at about 100,000 kms it's time). Yes, the chain guide was loose. Now the clatter is gone, acceleration is as smooth as a baby's cheek. Thank you.
thank you brother. you saved me. my car was doing the same. open up valve cover and sure enough that timing guide was loos. tighten it up and reassembled and noise is gone. much thanks. have a great day.
I just replaced my valve cover gasket and one thing I know of is that your existing gasket won’t seal the same when you reinstall it. So always install a new one.
Dude you are a lifesaver. Thank you. I have been chasing this for a month. Heading out to do it now. GM should have issued a service bulletin for bolts being used with no secondary retention feature from the factory. They could have added this to the service needed with the intake manifold, valve cover and PCV all blow out. If I had known I would have retorqued wtih thread lock when I put the Dorman fix it. Dorman redesign is awesome BTW. No issues on valve cover and intake manifold. 35K on those parts so far.
You saved me more money ..I just paid a shop $300 to replace the knock sensor because this problem kept triggering the P0324 code... Tore off the valve cover today and sure enough the timing chain guide was loose.. After cleaning the bolt holes and bolts and torquing it down to 71 inch lbs with lock tight on the treads... But, When torquing down the valve cover I snapped the #1 sequence bolt trying to torque it down to 74 inch lbs... I put some RTV silicone under the top and over it.. I also put a little bead along the gasket area of the broken bolt .. The car runs so much quieter and better..But, was throwing out oil from the broken bolt...So, hoping the rtv does the trick . Again, thanks for the video... Without it I would have probably spent who knows how much more money....
Thanks bro it worked like a charm I been chasing this noise for 3 months took it to the so called best mechanics you don’t know how much money and headaches you saved me
My 2013 Cruze just started making this noise. It doesn’t do it all the time, but lately it’s more frequent and louder. I’ll try checking the timing chain guide to see if it’s loose. ed. Yep found it. Guide was loose just like you said. You saved me a lot of stress and money. Thank you so much.
Hi! How did you open it? Did you buy the Screw head that opens the covers up? I am having the same issue, my engine ratlles when i reverse and sometimes when i put it in drive or in Park.
This is great to know and you’re Canadian to boot. Do you have a video on the PVC bypass system that several places sell. Hope there’s a source for that kit in Canada. Beats changing the valve cover out every couple years.
Appreciate the tip, sure enough that guide tower could be wiggled, bolts loose by finger. Clean, threadlock, and ship it. Not a bad time to inspect cam followers also!
Awsume video ive been looking for this long time, the first bolt i began unscrew snapped off lol howto remove the lit now is stucked cant remove it, ty for the nice video though
the rattle isnt as loud for me, but could this make the oil pressure light/sound activate? I just went twice to the mecanich and message still pops up when im idle after rolling a bit, but goes away as soon i press the gaa
I don't really have much time to make videos. This whole channel only came to existence because I had unusually quiet couple of months. There would be more content here if that happens again and I'll have some free time and energy, but for the most part of its existence my shop is flooded with work to the point where I have absolutely no time for making videos.
At the end of the video it sounds like the engine is ticking is that normal ? I have something like that going on and I'm just worried it's some sort of knock
Can't say without hearing your engine, but a lot of modern cars (especially these Cruzes) make a lot of injector noise. To me it almost sounds like a click/tap like some tapping a whiteboard with their fingernails. It's normal operation, the noise is due to the high pressure the fuel injectors operate at: vehicles these days can have pressures as high as 3000 PSI. Although it could be something else, it is likely just the injectors operating normally.
One of my bolts were broken on the upper timing chain guide. No stores have the bolts and doesn’t come with the guide. Anyone know the bolt size? Or know where I can get them? Not on gm direct, gm or other sites I’ve checked.
I have an engine rattle on my Cruze 1.4L turbo only when in `Drive` gear and without the AC on. replaced engine mounts - didn`t make a difference. Anyone has a clue what can it be?
Lol😂.. it came lose because the oil pressure tensioner at the bottom of the engine is leaking oil. You can hear your valves cherp.. timing is off. Fix your timing chain.
Yes they are, but this issue is 2x minimum. You know when this happens. Loss of power with no SEL caused by vibes being picked up by knock sensor due to lifter noise then retards spark with no SEL. Computer doing its job.
No, thnak you but no. If I WILL need to remove it I can do it easily by heating the bolts, I wouldn't even need to use that much heat. Actually, I never even had to use heat removing the fasteners I had previously installed on this red threadlock, it is not as "permanent" as it claims to be.
I've been having a noise issue with my 2012 Chevy Sonic LT 1.8L and I don't know what it is or what to do anymore at this point besides asking directly. I will post this link and hopefully you can help me? Link: ua-cam.com/video/0K8RF5fSkik/v-deo.html
Thanks bro it worked like a charm I been chasing this noise for 3 months took it to the so called best mechanics you don’t know how much money and headaches you saved me
I've had this problem for 4 years on my car, turns out the timing chain upper guide was not only broken where the housing screws were, but the top guide was 30% snapped off! $8 later and I'm in tears of joy without a check engine light that's been on for 4 years! Hopefully now it's better! Thank you for showing this, considering I've had so many mechanics stumped on this!
Hi, do you know your engine light code? I am having the same problem and would like to try and follow the instruction in this video.
@@curious_cat1099 I've had P0011, P0015, P0016 and P0017 not to mention a few others.
I had the exact same problem! Been chasing that noise and power reduction for months and multiple mechanics told me there was nothing wrong. Took it upon myself to fix it and found the same issue you displayed. Really appreciate the noise comparison at the end, it's super useful!
Ditto!!
Is this solve oil drping under the engine
My 2014 Cruze was clattering like an old school diesel, with uneven acceleration. My mechanic said the noise was a problem deep in the engine, too much trouble to repair, and to drive it until it dies. I followed your advice instead, plus swapped in a new valve cover & gasket (to avoid the known PVC vacuum leak problem with this engine) and spark plugs (at about 100,000 kms it's time). Yes, the chain guide was loose. Now the clatter is gone, acceleration is as smooth as a baby's cheek. Thank you.
Yep they always want to replace engines because it keeps them out of trouble. I was a long time mechanic so I know this
Just to be honest here, there was still about a 80% chance your mechanic was correct. You just got really lucky.
thank you brother. you saved me. my car was doing the same. open up valve cover and sure enough that timing guide was loos. tighten it up and reassembled and noise is gone. much thanks. have a great day.
I just replaced my valve cover gasket and one thing I know of is that your existing gasket won’t seal the same when you reinstall it. So always install a new one.
Dude you are a lifesaver. Thank you. I have been chasing this for a month. Heading out to do it now. GM should have issued a service bulletin for bolts being used with no secondary retention feature from the factory. They could have added this to the service needed with the intake manifold, valve cover and PCV all blow out. If I had known I would have retorqued wtih thread lock when I put the Dorman fix it. Dorman redesign is awesome BTW. No issues on valve cover and intake manifold. 35K on those parts so far.
You saved me more money ..I just paid a shop $300 to replace the knock sensor because this problem kept triggering the P0324 code... Tore off the valve cover today and sure enough the timing chain guide was loose..
After cleaning the bolt holes and bolts and torquing it down to 71 inch lbs with lock tight on the treads...
But, When torquing down the valve cover I snapped the #1 sequence bolt trying to torque it down to 74 inch lbs... I put some RTV silicone under the top and over it..
I also put a little bead along the gasket area of the broken bolt ..
The car runs so much quieter and better..But, was throwing out oil from the broken bolt...So, hoping the rtv does the trick .
Again, thanks for the video... Without it I would have probably spent who knows how much more money....
Thanks bro it worked like a charm I been chasing this noise for 3 months took it to the so called best mechanics you don’t know how much money and headaches you saved me
Not only the video is a great help but you made it better with the final comparison. Thanks
LETS GO FIXED MINE TODAY!!! NOISE IS GONE!!!GOOD ASS VIDEO!!!…My bolts were so loose that I could unscrew them with my hands
My 2013 Cruze just started making this noise. It doesn’t do it all the time, but lately it’s more frequent and louder. I’ll try checking the timing chain guide to see if it’s loose.
ed. Yep found it. Guide was loose just like you said. You saved me a lot of stress and money. Thank you so much.
Hi! How did you open it? Did you buy the Screw head that opens the covers up? I am having the same issue, my engine ratlles when i reverse and sometimes when i put it in drive or in Park.
@@TadiSora That's what this video shows.
what if this happened to the Cruze 1.8 which uses a rubber timing belt
what if this happened to the Cruze 1.8 which uses a rubber timing belt?
what if this happened to the Cruze 1.8 which uses a rubber timing belt ? (Not chain)
What a life saver. Thanks for the upload brudda
This is great to know and you’re Canadian to boot. Do you have a video on the PVC bypass system that several places sell. Hope there’s a source for that kit in Canada. Beats changing the valve cover out every couple years.
Thanks for the help, solved the problem and saved me some stress!
Great video, I can’t thank you enough!
Appreciate the tip, sure enough that guide tower could be wiggled, bolts loose by finger. Clean, threadlock, and ship it. Not a bad time to inspect cam followers also!
These cars can be complete headaches
Is there a torque spec for this I have a tendency to break bolts
Hope this works for me... just helping a guy that has the same sound. Thanks for the video.👊🇺🇲
Worked?
@@sparkzz5367 nope he had a different motor. We got under the valve cover and it was just different. Thanks for the video though! ✌️👍
What was it you were putting into the holes after before you put the cover back on?
You sir are a lifesaver
Most engine builders will tell you thread locker doesn't belong in an engine.
Do I need to wait 24 hours until thread lock is dry to start the engine?
Is that why it misfires ???
I have Chevy Malibu and got get that sounds like one click for one minute. That sound disappeared after one minute,
What is the problem??
Hi bro i need to know what size was the bolt head for the guide. Was it the same as valve cover (e10) ?
Gm ripped everyone off with these motors ! I have a different Cruze in the shop every week replacing parts
Awsume video ive been looking for this long time, the first bolt i began unscrew snapped off lol howto remove the lit now is stucked cant remove it, ty for the nice video though
Would you need to drain the oil to do this job?
No. You can see that the oil is at normal levels throughout the whole process when he checks the dipstick at the end
I have this exact noise on my cruze but its a 1.8L so i dont have that part under the valve cover sadly
the rattle isnt as loud for me, but could this make the oil pressure light/sound activate? I just went twice to the mecanich and message still pops up when im idle after rolling a bit, but goes away as soon i press the gaa
Same issue
perfect video!
Great video do you have any video of how to change the transmission oil on a 2012 Chevy Cruz
I don't really have much time to make videos. This whole channel only came to existence because I had unusually quiet couple of months. There would be more content here if that happens again and I'll have some free time and energy, but for the most part of its existence my shop is flooded with work to the point where I have absolutely no time for making videos.
Hi ! Did you get check engine light code p0017 ?
I had a rattling noise at idle in gear and the ac compressor bracket bolts came loose
Did it rattle more when the engine warmed up or rattle more on acceleration
Mine only makes that noise on start up then slowly goes away. Could it be anything else?
Bought the car and the timing chain was broken so replaced it and all, but does that noise on start up
How much does. To fix issue
At the end of the video it sounds like the engine is ticking is that normal ? I have something like that going on and I'm just worried it's some sort of knock
Can't say without hearing your engine, but a lot of modern cars (especially these Cruzes) make a lot of injector noise. To me it almost sounds like a click/tap like some tapping a whiteboard with their fingernails. It's normal operation, the noise is due to the high pressure the fuel injectors operate at: vehicles these days can have pressures as high as 3000 PSI. Although it could be something else, it is likely just the injectors operating normally.
Purge solenoid
One of my bolts were broken on the upper timing chain guide. No stores have the bolts and doesn’t come with the guide. Anyone know the bolt size? Or know where I can get them? Not on gm direct, gm or other sites I’ve checked.
Get the other bolt and go to a hardware store youll find it
I have an engine rattle on my Cruze 1.4L turbo only when in `Drive` gear and without the AC on. replaced engine mounts - didn`t make a difference. Anyone has a clue what can it be?
What is the solution to this problem?
Watch the video
Didn’t fix my problem
The video.
Great job thanks
I did this and it still sounds the same
Just did all that changed valve cover spark plugs everything and it still does it idk
Have you looked into the EVAP canister solenoid value?
if the rattling is in the back, check the purge solenoid
That is 1,8 liter engine guys
Mine is doing same noise exactly,don’t know how to repair it ,mechanic just asked me 1000€
Lol😂.. it came lose because the oil pressure tensioner at the bottom of the engine is leaking oil. You can hear your valves cherp.. timing is off. Fix your timing chain.
Are theese engines just noisy engines to begin with
Yes they are, but this issue is 2x minimum. You know when this happens. Loss of power with no SEL caused by vibes being picked up by knock sensor due to lifter noise then retards spark with no SEL. Computer doing its job.
geeze..use locktite BLUE Not Red...you will thank me if you ever need to remove that again!
No, thnak you but no. If I WILL need to remove it I can do it easily by heating the bolts, I wouldn't even need to use that much heat. Actually, I never even had to use heat removing the fasteners I had previously installed on this red threadlock, it is not as "permanent" as it claims to be.
Little heat goes a long way
On red
I've been having a noise issue with my 2012 Chevy Sonic LT 1.8L and I don't know what it is or what to do anymore at this point besides asking directly. I will post this link and hopefully you can help me? Link: ua-cam.com/video/0K8RF5fSkik/v-deo.html
that oil level was at minimum, no nominal
Any oil level between MIN and MAX marks on the dipstick is actually normal.
By the looks of the engine, you're getting payback for driving your car hard and neglecting it.
it’s his car he can drive it how he wants. no need to be a bitch.
His ride has 300,000 miles no payment while your paying out the nose 👃😅😮
@@rockytop4 Good luck with life. You're gonna need it. He-He.
@@kokolovitch56 made it 55 years 😂
Thanks bro it worked like a charm I been chasing this noise for 3 months took it to the so called best mechanics you don’t know how much money and headaches you saved me