The way the conversation flows between Grubby and Soda is just so fluid *chef kiss*. Grub is well spoken and manages to express his idea/questions well, extra points it's so refreshing hearing thought of a newbie learning WoW for a first time. As for Soda, you can tell he's interested, both in conversation (he's a wow enthusiastic, he clearly likes to talk about any-wow-related), and keen on learning how to teach a newbie, so he can translate it to teaching his guild later on. I put this on background and listened to the whole thing while playing Desert Strike matches, can totally see myself listening to this kind of collab as podcast during workout too etc...
You would be that guy at a party talking about strictly unfun stuff. Like bro, we all like these guys but you are borderline fantasizing about them. Get some human contact.
@@00higgoI think you're projecting. He's geeking but that's what the boys here are for. Stop letting imagined interactions dictate your behavior and you'll be happier. Plus you're ratioed
PART 2 LETS GOOOOO i literally JUST finished the first ep. This is so fun to watch an RTS pro learning basic WoW mechanics from a WoW pro who just happens to be slightly terrible at coaching but trying his best nonetheless. great entertainment value here im loving every second of it. best advice i could give is this: no matter how sweaty you want to be about min maxxing and mastering mechanics and game knowledge, at the end of the day, this game can still be played sufficiently without any of that. just take your time and go with the flow and youll be taking down fierce raid bosses and dominating epic pvp fights before you know it.
oh, and one more thing. Make that (Orc?) Shaman! Burst damage, versatile heals, travel form, tons of utility, waterwalking/breathing, low cd hearthstone, shield early and mail armor later on for extra survivability, etc etc. They are great in Hardcore, i dont care what any tier list or speedrunner says.
Hey Grubby! I can recommend straight up rebinding your number 2 (or "Q" or whatever "fast" hitting key feels comfortable) to pet attack. There are times where you want your imp to cast first to effectively tank that mob, especially in cases of multiple mobs, then have the pet quickly switch to the mob you are killing. Also when fleeing 4+ mobs it will make it easier to make your pet sacrifice itself for you while grabbing them off of you. Hardcore wow is essentially learning how to survive getting chased by 4+ mobs, and when you have decent pet control you're golden. PS. Remember to Mak'gora every hunter that needs your intellect gear! xd and GL out there
He really is. I think that's why I'm drawn into this series. He's asking questions, and really good questions for a new player. He is a true gamer and I love to see his interest in WoW. I'd love to see him get into it.
Some warlock pet tricks and shenanigans. Since felt soda didn't fully get across why pet control is important :p. 1. You can have the pet attack before you do. Corruption does not actually draw aggro untill it deals damage, and immolate can be outdamaged by the imp at least at the start. You can literally get your full DoT setup up and be into your second shadowbolt before the mob even realizes it should be attacking you (no spell pishback the whole time) - Even more effective if you manually position the pet first with the move command so it's further from you. 2. Canyion fishing. A niche case but VERY fun. Mobs... have sifferent pathing from players. Sometimes they can just straight up walk up walls and mountains. That includes pets. As such you can stand on the side of a canyon, send the pet down to attack a mob, then, by toggling between attacking and running back to you, keep the mob aggroed untill it reaches you. Safely fishing out a mob without ever risking your own life. 3. Running away. (Caves especially) more important for other pets (that have an instant mele attack) is the ability to have them aggro things in front of you while running, when you would aggro them anyway. Then having the pet run with you, pets are affected less by daze (and better them than you) serving as an additional health bar. Otherwise, you will be the target. Mastering even fundamental pet control can easily save your life in hardcore.
Hell yes. Just to add make sure the pet attack + return are given premium binds because they're fundamental to it all. I give it mousewheel up + down and it's beautiful. Gnome + imp in perfect harmony.
@notgarybrown for me I use X (attack) and ctrl+X (passive. Which also acts as retreat) with ctrl on one of my extra mouse buttons. Makes hotkeying a lot easier too having it that way x).
0:36 About grouping: grouping helps when you're doing a 'kill X number of mobs' quest. It doesn't help as much when doing a 'collect X items from mobs' quest, because the drops must be split. XP from mobs is split, but for party sizes from 3 to 5, there's a small bonus to XP. Groups can only go above 5 members if they are converted to a raid, in which XP is halved and most quests cannot progress. But other than XP, groups are efficient most of the time: in a 2-person group, you get half the XP but should be killing mobs at least twice as quickly: only one person should be taking damage. There are a few quests, like "pick up items on the ground", where being in a group is strictly worse in terms of time, but you might also be killing mobs along the way. In Hardcore, being in a group can also function as disconnect protection, but that doesn't help as much if you take on increased risk due to the increased safety. I hope that you learned mob leashing mechanics and how to avoid daze later in the video: dazing is something that mobs in the starting zone don't do but understanding it is important to escape from mobs at higher levels. For mob leashing: even many long-time players don't fully understand how leashing works in a group, which can lead to deaths.
As someone who has played this game since 2006 it is really awesome to follow the journey of someone trying it for the first time, with a fresh perspective!
Warriors struggle 10-30ish, but once you get your important skills and more talent points --- and hopefully complete your whirlwind quest, the game really opens up - with warriors being one of THE best DPS and Tanks in the game. They're very over tuned late game in classic. But those mid game levels are rough for warrior, enemies start to hit pretty hard - and your DPS output is kind of slow, so you struggle against more than 2 mobs. 4+ mobs in an equal level area are very easily a death sentence. I can't wait to see you learn about world buffs. Hyperspawns is the server adjusting for high population in an area. It can be incredibly deadly in some areas with tough enemies that are required for quests. I've had a hardcore death in Westfall because the Defias Pillagers (the mob responsible for the most hardcore deaths at low level) all respawned around me shortly after I had just killed them. I was already at half health, low mana, and I didn't have time to drink. I attempted to run but they are casters. Areas with lots of weak enemies can be just as deadly, especially murlocs. They respawn so quickly that it is easy to get caught in a never ending battle where you can't eat/drink or reset. NEVER accept a party invite when you are in an area that has dangerous or lots of mobs. They might all be dead for you, but after you accept the invite - you will be put into their layer, or 'reality' for that area - and they might all still be alive and surrounding you. Always wait until you are in an area you know is safe to accept invites. A long time ago, there was an instance where Blizzard forgot to make a demon raid boss immune to 'Enslave' - a warlock ability that temporarily enslaves a demon to serve you. The warlock enslaved Brutallus, a very difficult raid boss at that time, and somehow got him out of the raid/instance - and brought him to a capitol city; then released him on the low levels there.
Super excited to see you play grubby! The game can be super frustrating to learn but I love the energy and I’m gonna love your interactions with other streamers in similar shoes. Much love buddy!
Warlock is so fun to level, especially from around 30-40ish when you can get spell damage items and drain tanking becomes a thing. Fighting 3-4 things at once becomes the normal. Never need to eat or drink. Use succubus over void.
There are less obvious benefits to playing together. The outside the box benefits include: Your inventory fills up slower when you are sharing loot, so you might not even need to delete stuff to make room for more important things, making the game more enjoyable. You can autofollow your mate, if you trust them to keep you safe while you don't pay attention or go afk. Being in a good group is less stressful than soloing, and it is less tiring to follow someone else's lead than having to make all the decisions and calculations like you'd do when soloing, which can lead into longer sessions and end up leveling you faster than you'd have the energy to do when solo. Efficient quest sharing saves you a lot in travel time, especially with dungeon quests. You are more likely to get the tag when spawn camping quest monsters when in a group, potentially saving you hours of frustration, since five people spamming their instant attacks are more likely to get theirs in than one.
you should have played an orc shaman like you truly desired... they arent that hard and they are actually one of the strongest classes until lvl 44ish, then they start to fall off a bit (in terms of solo leveling)
They don't fall off. Orc shaman one of the strongest classes in all of WoW, extremely desired in raid and groups and good all around. But he already chose the most OP class in classic WoW anyway so he's not going to feel any weaker. It's just a shame he won't be experiencing all the shaman spells and lore fantasy.
Regarding difficulty: That spikes up once mob density gets higher and terrain is more restricted. *To put it short: caverns are death traps and dead ends if respawn is faster than your kill speed.*
Hey grubby quick pet management tip, instead of c1 c2 etc I use alt mouse wheel up and alt mouse wheel down. Alt scroll up for pet attack and alt scroll down for pet passive. I also do ctrl down for pet follow and ctrl up for pet stay. You don’t have to do these exact keybinds but it makes it a bit easier than ctrl 1-10
33:00 in Everquest, the big MMORPG before WoW you could attack everyone. If you picked the faction Iksar (some Lizard), all other faction and nearly everything would attack you on Sight. This means you could never shop in safe towns anywhere. You had to grind hundreds of hours just to get accepted (not a good reputation). The best thing: When you accidentally hit the attack button while shopping, the merchant and the whole city beat you down. But there were Iksar, Ogre and other players that would come to the Elven or human Capitol and kill every merchant, every quest NPC, even the mayor or king wasn't safe
Hey Grubster, don't change the pet attack to the 2nd ability. Use it with the first one. If you see your pet run off, just hit passive to make him heel. You want the pet to start attacking as soon as possible.
Best pet micro is Perma pet on passive, and manually sending/calling pet with keybinds (mousewheel works great) Extra points for de-selecting auto cast on specific use case abilities and also using those manually. (Spider ensnare as just one example)
@@FrazierHarcrow I always have on passive too. Typically, I have a manual attack set to a mouse button too. Just thought if he was going to macro, to at least attach it to his first spell.
If it doesnt happen in this video - you can right click the HUD frames for your unitframe and the enemies’ unitframe -> click unlock frame and it will allow you to drag it around the screen and you can re lock it. I like mine slightly above my cast bar and i pin them together so i can always see the percentages of both unitframes practically without having to move my eyes away from whats happening and up to the left corner where nothing is going on but that and i found it always jarred my movements or made me side step into more mob packs and it was always bad. Placing things out of sight of mind is bad “practice” In this game i say this with a grain salt added in because everyone has their own taste. My retail and classic hud layouts look nothing alike but EXACTLY how I want them too. Just a piece of advice I had laid into my lap
Strafing and jumping extend your hit box. There are use cases especially in hardcore where backpedelling is the better option than straffing to avoid getting meleed by a mob.
I was a hunter main and the reason why you want to manually control your pet is to prevent it from accidently aggroing something it shouldnt have aggroed... As multiple pulls are often a death sentence
Hi Grubby, love to see you playing wow and Hardcore no less! Hope you'll have fun. Here's some important advice Soda didn't mention (granted it's for later, but still): In towns/settlements there's usually an NPC called . At this NPC you can set your Hearthstone to that location. After you've moved on from an area after completing the quests there, it's usually a good idea to set your Hearthstone to the next town/area you get to. So you can just use your Hearthstone to go back to complete your quests if some of them sent you all the way across the map. Or you can just leave your Hearthstone set in a big city. Also, in towns/settlements there is an NPC called with a green exclamation mark above their heads. You NEED to click on this NPC in order to unlock your flight/fast travel to that location. The only Flightmasters in the starting areas for each race are located in the big city in that area (there is one big city in all starter areas). But after the starting areas, there can be multiple settlements with Flightmasters in the same area. It's usually a good idea to get them as you level, so you can make traveling easier.
Hey Grubby, that's very nice to see you play WoW classic hardcore. However I would love to see you do a full run in non hardcore, chilling and taking your time listening to the quests.
hey grubby. a good keybind for zooming in and out is either shift or ctrl mouse wheel, you get used to it after a while. and it feels almost the same as just using mouse wheel
man watching this is so incredible... Grubby please continue!!! so epic series HAHAHAHA, im wow arena tryhard and seeying you doing this is absolutely damn good!!
6:30 pretty sure this only happens if the person used an ability on the vanishing rogue or did something else to get on those mobs aggro table like cast an aoe on them or something. If you are not on the mobs aggro table at all they would ignore you and reset when the rogue vanishes.
When solo questing it's better to send your pet in first and then you start attacking imo. Like send your pet on attack then you start attacking. Reasoning is so your pet takes aggro first and you have more time to free cast without taking pushback. But it really doesn't make a huge difference. This is why I don't think pet classes are best for new players. A lot of people recommend pet classes for new players but I disagree. Mage is the easiest for new players. No pet, no stances, no forms, nor totems. I would count stealth as a stance as well. All of that stuff seems to confuse new players.
I guess Priest would be another easier one for new players but I wouldn't recommend a new player to be a healer and Mages just do way more damage and are funner imo.
couldnt agree more with what grubby said in the beginning...its stupid how its a MMORPG but it doesnt give u much incentive to level up in a group with people so ur stuck soloing a lot until u get to group dungeons.
Trully built different , first time playing , level 6 , already tweaking macros , asking pertinent questions about gameplay some people play for years without even thinking about it... Something tell me you will be a good player if you get into this , no doubts
27:54 How does he know that? Besides visual confirmation? 20 years of playing wow, he has the timing in his head. At that point, you pretty much "feel" when a mob respawns.
U should open with shadow bolt instead of DoT. and during travel time of bolt use something else :) then mob aggroes later and less pushback total in every fight, more efficient 🤓 Dont know if its been said.. looking at depth of harstem coaching, soda should tell u things like that 😅
You gotta bind pet to easy access bottons and use them! It will save your life. Play warlock/hunter as two characters and your journey to 60 will be fine
leaving pet on defensive is fine for hunters but we expect better of warlocks. It's almost expected your hunter will kill you and your allies with his ass-pulling leopard, but from a warlock it is a skill issue.
19:06 let’s see if he refreshes demon armor and if not let’s see if my ocd kicks in 😅 also a lot of moment/strafing and not back pedaling is getting use to controlling the camera.
Be ready to die, a lot. Hunter is a good class to get to 60 with at your level of experience. lvl 60 hardcore wow Will kill you so don't get too invested into your toon. Enhance shaman levelling with backup intellect gear hybrid/heals in your bank for dungeons can also be good as tanks will take it slower on HC and wf totem is really strong. If in doubt, just reset the pull; avoid damaging a mob as you run from it or it'll keep chasing forever.
Nah, noob hunters won't make 60. They will not know how to properly control pets and won't know about learning pet abilities. Most hunters also forget to train their defense and get crushing blows once they aggro and get 3 shot by a mob. Paladin would be the easiest class for noobs imo.
8:09 I feel like grubby is trying to get at something similar to like scv rushing in starcraft There is no rule saying you can't do something but is frowned upon, maybe like in wow killing hogger over and over or something. There nothing stopping you from doing that in hardcore might be frowned upon to not let anyone else get the tag.
As a wow player from classic to legion... wtf grubz wows controls are identical to every MMO hah how did you manage to not play any MMo for so long as a WC3 player? Cool vids
Soda's lack of vocabulary makes him not understand Grubby a lot of times. Talents absolutely modify spells. I don't know why he couldn't understand even that simple of a word. Also, green is the best color ever for mob difficulty. You can generally kill them twice as fast and only get 10% less exp. It's much more efficient than killing yellow leveled mobs.
Grubby one hour after making a character: "So how do i grief other players"
"So, how do you tower rush here"
A Tinyviolin is born
Nice, quick uploads so you can keep following. Fun to watch the learning process in something that's second nature to yourself after all these years.
The way the conversation flows between Grubby and Soda is just so fluid *chef kiss*.
Grub is well spoken and manages to express his idea/questions well, extra points it's so refreshing hearing thought of a newbie learning WoW for a first time. As for Soda, you can tell he's interested, both in conversation (he's a wow enthusiastic, he clearly likes to talk about any-wow-related), and keen on learning how to teach a newbie, so he can translate it to teaching his guild later on.
I put this on background and listened to the whole thing while playing Desert Strike matches, can totally see myself listening to this kind of collab as podcast during workout too etc...
As a longtime Soda viewer, it’s fascinating watching him not crash out when explaining the game to someone lol.
@@MissRoxyful well its cause Grubby is not a nobody he's a six time world champion, and he is older than Soda by quite a bit and acts his age.
You would be that guy at a party talking about strictly unfun stuff.
Like bro, we all like these guys but you are borderline fantasizing about them.
Get some human contact.
This indeed was very nice to have on the second monitor when eating and watching hornPub
@@00higgoI think you're projecting. He's geeking but that's what the boys here are for. Stop letting imagined interactions dictate your behavior and you'll be happier. Plus you're ratioed
Keep it up it's so interesting watching you getting into WoW
PART 2 LETS GOOOOO i literally JUST finished the first ep. This is so fun to watch an RTS pro learning basic WoW mechanics from a WoW pro who just happens to be slightly terrible at coaching but trying his best nonetheless. great entertainment value here im loving every second of it.
best advice i could give is this: no matter how sweaty you want to be about min maxxing and mastering mechanics and game knowledge, at the end of the day, this game can still be played sufficiently without any of that. just take your time and go with the flow and youll be taking down fierce raid bosses and dominating epic pvp fights before you know it.
oh, and one more thing. Make that (Orc?) Shaman! Burst damage, versatile heals, travel form, tons of utility, waterwalking/breathing, low cd hearthstone, shield early and mail armor later on for extra survivability, etc etc. They are great in Hardcore, i dont care what any tier list or speedrunner says.
Hey Grubby! I can recommend straight up rebinding your number 2 (or "Q" or whatever "fast" hitting key feels comfortable) to pet attack.
There are times where you want your imp to cast first to effectively tank that mob, especially in cases of multiple mobs, then have the pet quickly switch to the mob you are killing.
Also when fleeing 4+ mobs it will make it easier to make your pet sacrifice itself for you while grabbing them off of you.
Hardcore wow is essentially learning how to survive getting chased by 4+ mobs, and when you have decent pet control you're golden.
PS. Remember to Mak'gora every hunter that needs your intellect gear! xd and GL out there
Grubby is just so eloquent with his thoughts I love it
He really is. I think that's why I'm drawn into this series. He's asking questions, and really good questions for a new player. He is a true gamer and I love to see his interest in WoW. I'd love to see him get into it.
Some warlock pet tricks and shenanigans. Since felt soda didn't fully get across why pet control is important :p.
1. You can have the pet attack before you do. Corruption does not actually draw aggro untill it deals damage, and immolate can be outdamaged by the imp at least at the start. You can literally get your full DoT setup up and be into your second shadowbolt before the mob even realizes it should be attacking you (no spell pishback the whole time)
- Even more effective if you manually position the pet first with the move command so it's further from you.
2. Canyion fishing. A niche case but VERY fun. Mobs... have sifferent pathing from players. Sometimes they can just straight up walk up walls and mountains. That includes pets. As such you can stand on the side of a canyon, send the pet down to attack a mob, then, by toggling between attacking and running back to you, keep the mob aggroed untill it reaches you. Safely fishing out a mob without ever risking your own life.
3. Running away. (Caves especially) more important for other pets (that have an instant mele attack) is the ability to have them aggro things in front of you while running, when you would aggro them anyway. Then having the pet run with you, pets are affected less by daze (and better them than you) serving as an additional health bar. Otherwise, you will be the target.
Mastering even fundamental pet control can easily save your life in hardcore.
Hell yes. Just to add make sure the pet attack + return are given premium binds because they're fundamental to it all. I give it mousewheel up + down and it's beautiful. Gnome + imp in perfect harmony.
@notgarybrown for me I use X (attack) and ctrl+X (passive. Which also acts as retreat) with ctrl on one of my extra mouse buttons. Makes hotkeying a lot easier too having it that way x).
0:36 About grouping: grouping helps when you're doing a 'kill X number of mobs' quest. It doesn't help as much when doing a 'collect X items from mobs' quest, because the drops must be split. XP from mobs is split, but for party sizes from 3 to 5, there's a small bonus to XP. Groups can only go above 5 members if they are converted to a raid, in which XP is halved and most quests cannot progress.
But other than XP, groups are efficient most of the time: in a 2-person group, you get half the XP but should be killing mobs at least twice as quickly: only one person should be taking damage. There are a few quests, like "pick up items on the ground", where being in a group is strictly worse in terms of time, but you might also be killing mobs along the way.
In Hardcore, being in a group can also function as disconnect protection, but that doesn't help as much if you take on increased risk due to the increased safety.
I hope that you learned mob leashing mechanics and how to avoid daze later in the video: dazing is something that mobs in the starting zone don't do but understanding it is important to escape from mobs at higher levels. For mob leashing: even many long-time players don't fully understand how leashing works in a group, which can lead to deaths.
So So So excited for this series, you know the lore, now get to play it. I'm sure you'll recognize cool stuff along the way!
As someone who has played this game since 2006 it is really awesome to follow the journey of someone trying it for the first time, with a fresh perspective!
Warriors struggle 10-30ish, but once you get your important skills and more talent points --- and hopefully complete your whirlwind quest, the game really opens up - with warriors being one of THE best DPS and Tanks in the game. They're very over tuned late game in classic.
But those mid game levels are rough for warrior, enemies start to hit pretty hard - and your DPS output is kind of slow, so you struggle against more than 2 mobs. 4+ mobs in an equal level area are very easily a death sentence. I can't wait to see you learn about world buffs.
Hyperspawns is the server adjusting for high population in an area. It can be incredibly deadly in some areas with tough enemies that are required for quests. I've had a hardcore death in Westfall because the Defias Pillagers (the mob responsible for the most hardcore deaths at low level) all respawned around me shortly after I had just killed them. I was already at half health, low mana, and I didn't have time to drink. I attempted to run but they are casters.
Areas with lots of weak enemies can be just as deadly, especially murlocs. They respawn so quickly that it is easy to get caught in a never ending battle where you can't eat/drink or reset.
NEVER accept a party invite when you are in an area that has dangerous or lots of mobs. They might all be dead for you, but after you accept the invite - you will be put into their layer, or 'reality' for that area - and they might all still be alive and surrounding you. Always wait until you are in an area you know is safe to accept invites.
A long time ago, there was an instance where Blizzard forgot to make a demon raid boss immune to 'Enslave' - a warlock ability that temporarily enslaves a demon to serve you. The warlock enslaved Brutallus, a very difficult raid boss at that time, and somehow got him out of the raid/instance - and brought him to a capitol city; then released him on the low levels there.
After watching part 1 last night I was looking forward to more of these
Super excited to see you play grubby!
The game can be super frustrating to learn but I love the energy and I’m gonna love your interactions with other streamers in similar shoes. Much love buddy!
I love how min-maxy Grubby gets straight away. When I started I was just like, I quest, I ding, that's it :D truly an RTS player at work
Pretty interesting to see when someone experience something new, when you experienced the same thing 20 years ago
This is sooooo good!
I love seeing Grubby take on Classic WoW with all of his amazing noobyness, it's very entertaining :D
mousewheel pet attack 100% change zoom to modifier mousewheel
Warlock is so fun to level, especially from around 30-40ish when you can get spell damage items and drain tanking becomes a thing.
Fighting 3-4 things at once becomes the normal. Never need to eat or drink. Use succubus over void.
Also, I had pet attack on mouse button 5 my entire levelling time. It's honestly one of the most important buttons to micro where succubus attacks.
Soda leaves grubby alone with chat for a moment
Grubby to chat: "Can you take loot from other players?"
There are less obvious benefits to playing together. The outside the box benefits include: Your inventory fills up slower when you are sharing loot, so you might not even need to delete stuff to make room for more important things, making the game more enjoyable. You can autofollow your mate, if you trust them to keep you safe while you don't pay attention or go afk. Being in a good group is less stressful than soloing, and it is less tiring to follow someone else's lead than having to make all the decisions and calculations like you'd do when soloing, which can lead into longer sessions and end up leveling you faster than you'd have the energy to do when solo. Efficient quest sharing saves you a lot in travel time, especially with dungeon quests. You are more likely to get the tag when spawn camping quest monsters when in a group, potentially saving you hours of frustration, since five people spamming their instant attacks are more likely to get theirs in than one.
you should have played an orc shaman like you truly desired... they arent that hard and they are actually one of the strongest classes until lvl 44ish, then they start to fall off a bit (in terms of solo leveling)
They don't fall off. Orc shaman one of the strongest classes in all of WoW, extremely desired in raid and groups and good all around. But he already chose the most OP class in classic WoW anyway so he's not going to feel any weaker. It's just a shame he won't be experiencing all the shaman spells and lore fantasy.
@@zxbc1 i just mean fall off slightly in terms of solo questing much later on. they are very strong in general i agree
Regarding difficulty: That spikes up once mob density gets higher and terrain is more restricted.
*To put it short: caverns are death traps and dead ends if respawn is faster than your kill speed.*
Hey grubby quick pet management tip, instead of c1 c2 etc I use alt mouse wheel up and alt mouse wheel down. Alt scroll up for pet attack and alt scroll down for pet passive. I also do ctrl down for pet follow and ctrl up for pet stay. You don’t have to do these exact keybinds but it makes it a bit easier than ctrl 1-10
33:00 in Everquest, the big MMORPG before WoW you could attack everyone. If you picked the faction Iksar (some Lizard), all other faction and nearly everything would attack you on Sight. This means you could never shop in safe towns anywhere. You had to grind hundreds of hours just to get accepted (not a good reputation).
The best thing: When you accidentally hit the attack button while shopping, the merchant and the whole city beat you down. But there were Iksar, Ogre and other players that would come to the Elven or human Capitol and kill every merchant, every quest NPC, even the mayor or king wasn't safe
Hey Grubster, don't change the pet attack to the 2nd ability. Use it with the first one. If you see your pet run off, just hit passive to make him heel. You want the pet to start attacking as soon as possible.
Best pet micro is Perma pet on passive, and manually sending/calling pet with keybinds (mousewheel works great) Extra points for de-selecting auto cast on specific use case abilities and also using those manually. (Spider ensnare as just one example)
@@FrazierHarcrow I always have on passive too. Typically, I have a manual attack set to a mouse button too. Just thought if he was going to macro, to at least attach it to his first spell.
If it doesnt happen in this video - you can right click the HUD frames for your unitframe and the enemies’ unitframe -> click unlock frame and it will allow you to drag it around the screen and you can re lock it. I like mine slightly above my cast bar and i pin them together so i can always see the percentages of both unitframes practically without having to move my eyes away from whats happening and up to the left corner where nothing is going on but that and i found it always jarred my movements or made me side step into more mob packs and it was always bad. Placing things out of sight of mind is bad “practice”
In this game i say this with a grain salt added in because everyone has their own taste. My retail and classic hud layouts look nothing alike but EXACTLY how I want them too. Just a piece of advice I had laid into my lap
Strafing and jumping extend your hit box. There are use cases especially in hardcore where backpedelling is the better option than straffing to avoid getting meleed by a mob.
I was a hunter main and the reason why you want to manually control your pet is to prevent it from accidently aggroing something it shouldnt have aggroed... As multiple pulls are often a death sentence
So much nostalgia, have fun on your wow adventure grubby don't let the try hards suck the enjoyment out of it just do your thing!
Hi Grubby, love to see you playing wow and Hardcore no less! Hope you'll have fun. Here's some important advice Soda didn't mention (granted it's for later, but still):
In towns/settlements there's usually an NPC called . At this NPC you can set your Hearthstone to that location. After you've moved on from an area after completing the quests there, it's usually a good idea to set your Hearthstone to the next town/area you get to. So you can just use your Hearthstone to go back to complete your quests if some of them sent you all the way across the map. Or you can just leave your Hearthstone set in a big city.
Also, in towns/settlements there is an NPC called with a green exclamation mark above their heads. You NEED to click on this NPC in order to unlock your flight/fast travel to that location. The only Flightmasters in the starting areas for each race are located in the big city in that area (there is one big city in all starter areas). But after the starting areas, there can be multiple settlements with Flightmasters in the same area. It's usually a good idea to get them as you level, so you can make traveling easier.
Hey Grubby, that's very nice to see you play WoW classic hardcore.
However I would love to see you do a full run in non hardcore, chilling and taking your time listening to the quests.
12:10 HES FOCUSING ON ECON
GRUBBY’S FAST EXPANSION
Cant wait for grubby get into wow more, I think he will enjoy the mechanics of the game
I have two buttons on my mouse by my thumb, I use the forward one for pet attack and the back for pet passive.
hey grubby. a good keybind for zooming in and out is either shift or ctrl mouse wheel, you get used to it after a while. and it feels almost the same as just using mouse wheel
I always thought (thematically speaking) that a good choice for undead is shadow priest, but warlock is a good choice too.
You can macro your pet attack into a spell like immolate or corruption so he starts attacking whenever you pull a mob with those spells.
man watching this is so incredible... Grubby please continue!!! so epic series HAHAHAHA, im wow arena tryhard and seeying you doing this is absolutely damn good!!
So cool you’re playing wow Grubby. I hope you enjoy it as much as we do.
6:30 pretty sure this only happens if the person used an ability on the vanishing rogue or did something else to get on those mobs aggro table like cast an aoe on them or something. If you are not on the mobs aggro table at all they would ignore you and reset when the rogue vanishes.
When solo questing it's better to send your pet in first and then you start attacking imo.
Like send your pet on attack then you start attacking.
Reasoning is so your pet takes aggro first and you have more time to free cast without taking pushback.
But it really doesn't make a huge difference.
This is why I don't think pet classes are best for new players.
A lot of people recommend pet classes for new players but I disagree.
Mage is the easiest for new players. No pet, no stances, no forms, nor totems.
I would count stealth as a stance as well.
All of that stuff seems to confuse new players.
I guess Priest would be another easier one for new players but I wouldn't recommend a new player to be a healer and Mages just do way more damage and are funner imo.
50:42 excellent voice acting
I use my mouse wheel to control the pet as a warlock.
couldnt agree more with what grubby said in the beginning...its stupid how its a MMORPG but it doesnt give u much incentive to level up in a group with people so ur stuck soloing a lot until u get to group dungeons.
This is soooo cool!!! I want to see you play more WOW :D
Streamer privilege.. 6 slots bag !!! GG :)
Really happy to see you try WoW.
Have fun!
The layer addon shows how many people on each layer, at least a good estimate. It can be thousands of people spread out around the world.
And in this Mod : Do you stay Dead once Unlived?
in this game mode you remain as a ghost, but in the new servers you can transfer your ghost to a non-hardcore realm
i think u might be my new fav. wow streamer didnt knew you before
Grubby should really be an orc warlock.
Shaman*
Okay this is content I'll be sticking around for.
I love the barrage of mostly useless or inaccurate info from chat after Soda left lol.
iconic grubby moment at 1:14:41
The hate for back paddling is crazy, you got to do what you got to do. Same goes for clicking in your IU once in a while. There, I said it.
Trully built different , first time playing , level 6 , already tweaking macros , asking pertinent questions about gameplay some people play for years without even thinking about it... Something tell me you will be a good player if you get into this , no doubts
Loving Grubby learning wow
Love that you try wow! :D.
Grubby I would love you to play some guild wars 1 on stream and show people the beauty of that game
I don't know why, but it's so incredibly satisfying to watch Grubby learns to play WoW ^_^ I don't want this videos to end.
1:00:48 THE NPC IS AWARE
27:54 How does he know that? Besides visual confirmation? 20 years of playing wow, he has the timing in his head. At that point, you pretty much "feel" when a mob respawns.
U should open with shadow bolt instead of DoT. and during travel time of bolt use something else :) then mob aggroes later and less pushback total in every fight, more efficient 🤓
Dont know if its been said.. looking at depth of harstem coaching, soda should tell u things like that 😅
video becomes watchable @ 2:53
this is gonna be fun, made me wanna play wow sometime
You gotta bind pet to easy access bottons and use them! It will save your life. Play warlock/hunter as two characters and your journey to 60 will be fine
you can make a weakaura reminding you to buff yourself with demon armor
lol the bag
weakaura reminder for armor buff and all buffs in general would be so helpful to new players
Did you know theres an npc in wow classic named after you? its a yellow worm named Grubthor in silithus.
So pleasant to listen to
leaving pet on defensive is fine for hunters but we expect better of warlocks. It's almost expected your hunter will kill you and your allies with his ass-pulling leopard, but from a warlock it is a skill issue.
"you are cheating on wow with another game"
Great one Grubs!
>SodaPegging
Major yikes lmao
Teach the most important thing instant loot addon... no wasting time on quest looting
Absolutely love this so far. Please keep it coming. You’re going to die so many times haha it’s a matter of when and not if lol
honestly surprised there is no mention of south park references yet in his chat
19:06 let’s see if he refreshes demon armor and if not let’s see if my ocd kicks in 😅 also a lot of moment/strafing and not back pedaling is getting use to controlling the camera.
Neither of these guys know anything about the other's game. I play both RTS and MMO so this is both painful and hilarious
Be ready to die, a lot. Hunter is a good class to get to 60 with at your level of experience. lvl 60 hardcore wow Will kill you so don't get too invested into your toon.
Enhance shaman levelling with backup intellect gear hybrid/heals in your bank for dungeons can also be good as tanks will take it slower on HC and wf totem is really strong.
If in doubt, just reset the pull; avoid damaging a mob as you run from it or it'll keep chasing forever.
Nah, noob hunters won't make 60. They will not know how to properly control pets and won't know about learning pet abilities. Most hunters also forget to train their defense and get crushing blows once they aggro and get 3 shot by a mob.
Paladin would be the easiest class for noobs imo.
omg this shadowbolt icon and Grubby playing for first time... its sooooo nostalgic, crazy how much nostalgic it is wtfff, love this channel
Dota and then now WOW! This is the best timeline.
theres a reason you've never seen soda get up...
that 1st macro attempt was so funny
I unironically did the same thing like 10 years ago. I was so confused. 😂
When you get to know Grubby you will recognize his deadpan humor. :)
Are we going to see some grubby duels and pvp?
looking forward to the launch of FRESH
My prayers have been answered 🎉
Bring Harstem with you!
Murdering the Scarlet Crusade is one of the great joys of WoW. Always take a few more talbards if ya want. :)
ahah very nice! thank you!
Awesome! Wc3 , dota and wow 👌 the goat
8:09 I feel like grubby is trying to get at something similar to like scv rushing in starcraft
There is no rule saying you can't do something but is frowned upon, maybe like in wow killing hogger over and over or something. There nothing stopping you from doing that in hardcore might be frowned upon to not let anyone else get the tag.
back in the day Wc3 Custom games sometimes if you clicked the wrong one the load screen would be Porn
grubby don't let the people lie to you. you can never kill too many scarlet crusaders.
Soda is so nice to be giving grubby so much bad and false information.
As a wow player from classic to legion... wtf grubz wows controls are identical to every MMO hah how did you manage to not play any MMo for so long as a WC3 player? Cool vids
Love this
dudes getting addicted before our very eyes
Soda's lack of vocabulary makes him not understand Grubby a lot of times. Talents absolutely modify spells. I don't know why he couldn't understand even that simple of a word. Also, green is the best color ever for mob difficulty. You can generally kill them twice as fast and only get 10% less exp. It's much more efficient than killing yellow leveled mobs.
Haha he's doing hardcore awesome