Lets be honest Big Chief made Street Outlaws. I been watching since season 1 episode 1 of the OG show. And if it wasnt for Chief and the 405 no one else will even be known as much as they are
Chief made 405 fast. He has been leading them since the TV show Pinks. Cheif is Street Outlaws Period! Cheif and Ryan are the two best. Chief came from nothing to be were he is at. Underdog story all day!
For many, Big Chief and the 405 basically saved drag racing in this country. The NHRA had destroyed it over the years, the original Street Outlaws come along and basically saved it with their passion. Quite honestly, the only reason I watch the show is because of Big Chief, Daddy Dave, Murder Nova, Flip, Manza, Doc, Shane and Bob, Chuck. Those are the guys, and it seems you are having fewer and fewer moments with them.
I agree. Which in turn, made NHRA look in the mirror and start making subtle changes. Now they're looking good again. Drag racing as a whole got a much needed boost thanks to Street Outlaws.
Well flip passed away before the show got real big so thats why you do t see him, but i quit watching shortly after because you can tell more and more its staged
One thing to remember is that NONE of these shows would exist today if Chief hadn't agreed to let the original producer (who they thought might be a cop) shoot them out street racing. And out of that sprang the original Street Outlaws show. All these racers on all the current shows owe Chief a debt of gratitude for the money they are making today.
Your reaching no one is chief shit period !!!! Life goes on new faces new cars new cars etc ....chief didn't pay for Thier race cars !!!!?😇😁😆😭🤣 If they don't have a race car too race no one would race !!!😁😆😇😭🤣😂
He's not reaching. There would be no Street Outlaws without Chief and the 405. They are the OG's for a reason. Yeah, those people would still have race cars but they'd be doing what they were doing before the show. Racing at the track.
I miss the days when the show was mostly about you working on you car. There was a certain fun in watching you try new things, seeing your sense of accomplishment, watching as you learned to do things that you hadn't done previously and seeing you seek out the input of your viewers. That was a great and unusual format.
We’ll be back to that this summer. I don’t have the time to do anything with Betsy during the winter because of school plus I don’t do well with the cold lol. From what I have been told the weekly shows I want to go to are happening again this summer which I can not wait to go to in Betsy!
Big Chief is Street Outlaws period l. He wouldn’t walk away over nothing.. he doesn’t care about the money. He stays true to his beliefs and the streets. He also supports Jackie he has his priorities in order
That chase is a race is some of JJ's cheating hustling shit. JJ is a hustler first and a racer second. That's just facts. I know I am going to catch some hate comments off it but I don't care. The truth is the truth!
@@warinsidemyhead8939 ye for sure lmao who are those guys!!! Maybe in the track there known but chief is known worldwide. If people that don’t even drive know you ya I’d say your bigger in the scene
Not a fan of Axman or Precious. Chief and Jackie are great at explaining the rules in the drivers meetings. Sucks that Chief is not competing and I think Chief’s racing and racing program has improved having Jackie there. People forget Jackie is a racer from a racing family.
Sounds like he didn't make the list and was crying about it .that's how he acts anyway..to big of an ego..karma from his kids..chose card over his kids..he even said he didn't have time for his kids.. that's just sorry
@Mark Bickel If I was him I wouldn't fight either. Don't want to end up like Chuck facing charges in court and shit. Everybody wants to fight until you beat the living shit out of them, then they call the cops or sue you. Got to be smart specifically when you are famous/rich.
@Brutally Honest MF folks forget, when your an adult and fight, winning is not like a kid fight. As soon as you win and the cops come, you lose. The more money you have, the more you lose. Eddie Murphy said it best. All my guys ( bodyguards)were fighting at a club, then EVERYONE sued ME!
Ever since Jackie came on the scene its been tense. Sean (Murder Nova) was smart enough to get away from it because that ship was sinking. If Ryan Martin is there and you beat him you have every right to call yourself fastest in America.
Boy do I disagree with your statement that since Jackie came to the show there's been friction. I have watched this show from day one and saw absolutely no conflict with Jackie and anyone else.
@@mozartmike nobody is saying friction. It's off. Used to be Justin and the 405 racers. He was always doing things with the other guys..... now you don't see him interact with anyone but Jackie. Good for him if he's happy. The only time you see him on the show without her is when he's doing interviews / narrating.
Look I've been saying it since the beginning. These guy's...the 405 literally made racing as a whole more mainstream...street racing more. But without the original show none of these other racers would be nearly as popularas they are,and we definitely wouldn't have spin offs like npk or fastest in America or America's top 20. That's a fact. Murder nova had videos on UA-cam...but that wouldn't have equated to where they are now.
“If you with me be with me, if you ain’t be ain’t” people need to stop feeding into rumors and just wait for the show to come out and let them tell their side of anything that’s going on
Sim, I must admit that when I first discovered you it was hard to follow your content. Over time I have seen the maturity of you and your content. This maturity was seen in this video today. Keep it coming buddy. I cannot get enough now!!! Thanks.
Chief is a street racer. He has always talked about leaving the shows and staying in the streets. He’s more about the passion for this sport than the big money events that are damn near impossible to win unless you have the most money and the best parts money can buy
Remember when Cheif and Chuck were fighting over the #1 spot. Chuck was yelling and arguing and Chief said he didn't want to argue with a friend and lose a friendship
@@omegasquad868 ,lol, yeh, I guess he is overcompensating. Just doesn't come across (to me) as a trustworthy team player,, otherthan being a cheerleader for Ryan. (and his wholesale parts store) The 405 are smart guys. Doesn't seem like anyone takes anything he has to say to seriously (I hope). But dang, that mouth just never stops.
Axman punked out against Chief! Kid you are correct about Chief. If you do not race Big Chief you are not the fastest period! I've lost all respect for Memphis. Without Big Chief I will watch Billy and Tommy.
As far as Discrediting the show because Cheif isn't there. I feel isnt really the case. Since Cheif choose to leave on his own accord, nobody made him leave, It was his decision. I understand & respect his decision to leave, but you cant discredit everyone else out there lining them up because he decided to say screw it. Also if we find out that Cheif didn't do as well as he usually does on the 405 show on tv right now. Then that would be even more reason, that him not being there, wont discredit America list.
I think it became less “street” for him and it became no fun. Look at his previous videos. He’s out testing his new small tire car. Hes excited to get Jackie’s car going and wanting to race in true street races and back of the track races. I think the argument with precious was just the straw that broke the camels back. I bet we start seeing him do a lot of racing with Billy from SRC with Mr Crow, Caddy Jack and the corvette.
@@couchfighter this is all correct, and he did it to get even MORE real than the old Chief, he became a bigger better version.. remember in the first season, he didn’t even race! Then his focus shifted and the show grabbed a hold.
MSo wanted the chase is a race chief said no we are doing the light that's the only way you can see who is the fastest that's why MSo don't do npk cause they can't compete unless it is the hussle
I feel like Chief is tired of the spotlight and track racers who claim street, he just want to race any street anytime. I hope he does bow out of the tv bs and goes back to what he loves
How does one afford to do that without the show or any of the other appearance events that pay you to be there? You have to have a lot of subscribers and content on UA-cam to be able to afford what they do with no other source of income.
Just throwing this out there. You have said this before, "it's a TV show." What does a TV show need? Drama. Can't see Chief walking away from what I assume is a pretty good paycheck.
I'm speechless ,, Rumors fly around all the time, and I just ignore , or try to rebut them,, but when they turn out to be even worse than what was said, that's just jaw-dropping news.
If Big Chief was quiting the show then he would have no problem telling everyone to clear his name but if he can't say anything then that means Big Chief and Jackie didn't quite it just makes more sense that way...if Big Chief can't talk about it then that means he didn't quite and he's still under contract...and another thing if Big Chief is still out there testing on the streets with the Crow then that means he didn't quite the show....just thought I'll throw my two cents worth in.....Thanks Sim.
Mathew fact is you don't know shit about these contractual obligations, if the contract says that you take a dump at 3:30 every afternoon and you don't you break your end of the agreement.
Chief and Murder Nova are basically the only reason I watch that stuff. And what do you expect with MSO they are all about the drama. Chief, Murder Nova, Dave, Fireball, their youtube vids are better than the show in my opinion.
When I first heard the rumor Chief left I didn’t believe it and I’m still not convinced Chief would leave the show he’s responsible for over something petty. Even if it were a heated argument what could anybody possibly say to make him of all people just say “f it I’m done”? It doesn’t add up at all, there has to be way more to this story.
Thanks for this video SIM! It’s none of my business, but we may never know what Really happened, even if they do “air” it on an episode, nor do we have a right to know - unless we hear it - voluntarily - straight from those involved and then - and only then, opinions can be made from there. Again, It’s none of my business, what happened, but if Big Chief & Jackie aren’t on America’s List, I’m not inclined to watch it. (I’m a 405 follower and mean No disrespect to the rest of the 405 Guys) Although street racing has been around since before he was born, Big Chief has transcended the ‘sport’ and not only elevated its evolution, but told the Entire World: “This Is What We Do!” He deserves more than respect from those who are involved in what “they do”! TTVE KOKO God Bless 😎
I stand with Thai comment. Not interested in any show without Big Chief…I love NPK live events, but not interested in watching it on tv. Lots of drama and the world has enough of that.
Hey Sim still looking good man. Thanks for all you do and keeping us updated. I’m glad Jackie and Chief doesn’t deal with drama. Enjoy your week. 👍😎✌️TTVE 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
Hopefully he just stops being the race master giving him time to actually work on his car. I won’t watch anything without chief in it. 6 hours ago he said they didn’t leave due to a disagreement or that they’d left at all
No chief no show! Who let him leave? Those producers should all be fired! I am not watching this joke of a show without chief! They let the man who started it all walk away and didn’t support him? Complete idiots!
I'm assuming this is from the stream? I wish your other videos could be more like this. You are way more relaxed and not speaking 1,000 words per second. Your excitement in other videos doesn't always seem genuine. But this time you had the scoop and I enjoyed watching it. I know it will be months, but I'm interested to see how much they show from this situation.
I think Big chief and Billy the Kid are going to start a Small Tire show. I think more people were relating to Street Outlaws at first. The public felt like they were more in the every day working class back then. Plus that would get Jackie into it also. Chief has a small tire car.
I get so damn tired of hearing off wit ya head! That shit gets so old! Without chief it will go down the tubes! The start of the 405 is what made it ! The chemistry of that crew!!!
I to am sad to hear this I am a big fan of Chief and Jackie the show will not be the same without them hopefully they will keep up with the UA-cam videos so we can get our fix thanks for the info Sim keep up the good work #ttve
I agree completely, but they said they are not yet able to address the rumors so this the best we got. Plus I did not get any of my info from rumors on social media.
I appreciate how you handled this. Unfortunately rumors tend to get out of hand. I'm sure we will know more in the future. I commend Chief for being racemaster I couldn't handle having to deal with all the games and drama. Not that some don't have legitimate claims but it's gotta be a headache
I was rebutting a comment on MWSC last video, someone was accusing them of "manufacturing" these rumors for clickbait. JUSTIN jumped in and left a LONG rebuttal about the situation, and hinted that there maybe long term consequences.
I hope that some of the ungrateful racers who are bashing Big Chief realize that if it wasn't for him some of you wouldn't be making the money your making now. Because of Big Chief drag racing is now back on the map. I know that there is one guy who likes to run at the mouth thinking he's a big shot. He's a short plump guy who seems to be ungrateful. One of these days he's going to open his mouth to the wrong guy and they will shut it. Sad if Big Chief is no longer racing with the 405. Again he is the guy who put you racers on the map.
Its hard for chief to test with procharger cars cause they are so loud and cant drive them to starting line so trailers gonna be on side of road he test with lutz all time and racing is not a team sport i dont know why people dont get that the 405 race together to rep there city but they all go for number 1 cause its not a number 2 sport chief did nothing wrong especially seems like most of the 405 now act like ryan is there hero to me
There's only 2 reasons why Chief would completely leave the show, either way too much drama and bs or he's being forced to . I say that because it's turned into more of a drama than actual racing if you watch how it's edited and trying to be at the top of a list in your crowd of friends is just asking for trouble, instead of competing with each other why not focus on beating everyone else. There's so much drama I don't even care to watch anymore.
@@trmcfadden4286 I kind of thought that too when they keep repeating in the OG show right now how they aren't acting like a team and how Chief should be a better racemaster ect..
The drama I can't stand anymore. Also some of the rules is crap. I can't stand chase is a race, people always jumping the light to get them to chase..it's just stupid..then racers dodging call outs, just race end of story .
Yesterday in Chiefs video.someone commented about it being fake drama etc. Chief replied that whatever was going on, it wouldn’t just affect his career but his whole life. I’m not sure what he meant by that but, it doesn’t sound good either . I’ll support Chief till the end bc NONE of those guys would be doing what they’re doing without Chief. They ALL owe him big time for being able to race for a living. Hell, remember Dave was always driving someone else’s car bc he couldn’t afford to build his own and now look at him. He has a badass street car and a quarter million dollar NPK car. How soon they forget.
@@SimABCXYZ exactly Couple years ago murder nova said something at the starting line about someones wheelie bar height. They made it sound like it was an argument or something but when he and Justin went on their you tube, it was nothing even close about it... Pilgrim, just like all reality filming like to start stuff
Big Chief is Street Outlaws. Nothing will come close to what he has made this into(or even what he and Shawn had with their podcast). If he had to walk away from some bs with Memphis(which he has alluded to before that he doesn’t like some things about what JJ has become or done of late) then I can tell you the majority of this fan base is behind him. Listener #69
Sort of sucks for the 405 to not have Chief there to help the turbo guys with their tuning. Chief could have been a helpful tool for Monza and Youngblood
From what monza has shown so far on the new season and what he has said Youngblood has the tuning figured out and the upgrades to the chassis have made it a consistent car again.. Monza has said the car has never been this good
@@martinhuotari9584 TV portraits all of them to create more drama etc. It's turned into wwf wrestling... look at reaper he's nothing like the guy who was shown on tv
Maybe big chief the racemaster left and went home, but big chief the racer is still there kicking ass? 🤔 really hard for me to believe they would just leave everything they've built over an argument with precious, but stranger things have happened.
I don't always make a comment on your videos. Watching the live feed is what makes my week. Jackie on the live feed is a very appreciated bonus. I have seen other UA-cam people showing this video and making comments about your information. Most say you are amazing at finding the facts about street outlaws. What is funny the Chief haters are so uninformed. They mouth off and can't except that Chief and Jackie could possibly take the high road like they did. Keep up your undying love for street outlaws. Your true fans are definitely Chief and Jackie fans too.
I appreciate that a lot! For the people hating on me, this video, and Chief and Jackie it is exactly as you said and they simply are just uninformed. A common misconception I have seen a lot is when Chief and Jackie filmed their most recent youtube video and where I got the information I stated in this video. Nothing I said was based on rumors it was all from primary sources. But hey I think it's pretty cool that I've got real information that is so mind blowing people instantly assume its fake lol. As always man thanks for watching and hope all is well!
Shawn has never been a a race master in 10+yrs of street outlaws! However, I do think the entire 405 and possibly the Memphis crew too have turned their backs on Chief when it was Chief that actually made Street Outlaws the most popular show on Discovery. Without Chief, there would be no spin-off shows of Street Outlaws because the 405 show would’ve never made it without Chief. Chief made the 405 show entertaining and was comfortable in front of the camera wayyyy before everyone else. Memphis wouldn’t even have a show if it weren’t for Chief and then the 405 guys who got famous in later seasons. Without Chief, none of this ever happened! Facts! Chief was and always will be the most important street outlaw. Not to mention he is the most famous too!
No point to argue with a back woods nobody that’s never accomplished anything other than tugging on JJs coat tail. Sucks people like that ruin a good thing and chief isn’t there
Jj is the most dangerous and careless scammer they could've brought on. I honestly haven't really watched since he came out. He even let's the women in family get hurt because they're not qualified. Safety isn't part of his racing. He even wrecked a car while it's on the trailer lol. He's just dangerous,mostly a snake in the grass tho.
Hope you're saying JJ is a nobody, because Chief started this shit! Go back and watch 1320 videos of street racing years and years ago! Not to mention pinks 20 years ago.
I would say regardless of what happened the 405 has Chiefs and Jackie's back. I remember all the talk back in 2017 when chief went to NPK and after a few races won the whole thing that was awesome and that was the start of the street racing channel
I feel like Discovery encourages this drama and fights, I don't know why, because most people don't care about that We want to see who's fastest. When I want to see fights I just watch the UFC not Street Outlaws 🤦
@@77yogurt I know it's a grind to just be there and race much less race and be the racemaster. Plus they are filming twice as much as usual. It's not hard to say enough is enough.
Big Chief is the main reason that I started watching Street Outlaws and he is the reason that I continue to watch it. If he leaves the show, I’m not sure it would still keep my interest.
Big Chief did not start or create street outlaws all the 405 as a group helped the show get off the ground And for those of you who have never street raced or drag raced do not truly understand what goes on ..... Arguments , fights etc happen at the majority of street races and or drag races !!!!! It's not scripted for TV i assure you ..... I've been at midwest when chief and shawn were filming on a few occasions and the producer was almost in tears due to how things were going that day as far as filming goes !!!!! It's not all roses and rainbows in real life or during filming
I don’t know why people don’t give Justin the respect he deserves. He absolutely started this show and brought it to the everyday household name that we all know today. Even if you don’t like him give respect where respect is due.
I'm pretty sure that big cheif is the reason that street outlaws exists, giving that all the drivers said that and it's obvious lol. Without Big Cheif there wouldn't be any street outlaw shows at all
@@tylercrow4912 because he’s running a 20 year old chassis which isn’t allowing him to put the power down he needs to be competitive. But he fixed that this past year
Sad that all you support Chief. Ever see the way he treats his fans? He literally said he can't stand the fans. He even said racing is more important then his family is. The money and fame got to him and changed him. He isn't the same person that started Street Outlaws.
Its a shame that this man has changed so much since getting involved with jackie. Go back watch the show and the difference is unreal. One more thing he is not gonna be involved in because of something jackie was involved in
About Chief and Axman... I remember a spirited argument I had with an old boss years ago. It was passionate on both sides and he tolerated it pretty well up to the point where he wheeled around on me and said "Look. You might be right. But I don't THINK you're right." This argument reminds me of that. Chief was the boss. If you're arguing with the boss, he's gonna win. Should never have gotten that far.
I've often seen a few from Memphis with that sawing jaw action going on.. I'm not naming anyone but watch the new season of fastest in America you will be able to see clenched jaws and mouths moving abnormal and if you have ever been around someone who is using meth you can spot the signs
I've heard other racers that have been around with mso saying that they were tired but had to fix a car and then mso showed up and they weren't tired anymore and everything got done
I've been watching Street Outlaws since the early days--when it was about drag racing. I loved to watch them drag race. Big Chief brought street drag racing back. I hope these guys get it together and stand tough. A person doesn't want to watch them kill the golden goose.
Awesome video Sam, it’s definitely a blow to the show, sometimes Precious really irritates me, for whatever reason she’s not been one of the fastest and even took some time off. I’m a huge Justin and Jackie fan so they will definitely be missed.
I agree. There's always 1 or 2 people like that when you go out street racing( been street racing over 25 yrs) but on the other thing. I did read she does have health issues thats why shes taken time off. Last year or year before there was an article written about MSO. Scoliosis i think but not 100% sure
sim do you think some of it is because he has a lot of pressure making and enforcing the rules. like he said last year it’s hard for him to be a race master and a racer because sometimes he has to enforce rules that benefit him
I can't hardly stand to watch street outlaws shows that have the Memphis people in it. Big Chief is literally the biggest name in street outlaws. Without the 405 and Chief there would never be a street outlaws.
I'll have to ask, how much of this drama is created to get interest hyped for the show? As far as not talking about it, they are probably under contract prohibiting them from spoiling anything. Do we know for a fact that they are home with a fully race ready car? The message Jackie typed out suggested that these rumors were not true. Is it possible that between the time that rules were initially negotiated and when everyone got on the set that something changed in a way that Chief is not willing to compromise. Add an argument to that factor and time to go cool off? I will say this, as pressure gets put on the show from videos like this, they will need some kind of statement. You can't just lose a key subject (if this is true) without some kind of statement.
Exactly! Of course they can’t say what happened, if anything at all happened. Wouldn’t be the first time drama was created to raise show ratings. Ol Sim here is click baiting using the title “BIG CHIEF QUITS STREET OUTLAWS” but says he doesn’t know then talks ab Jackie’s sign, etc. The show is BCs baby he def isn’t going to walk over bs drama, Jackie wouldn’t let him make a mistake so quickly-she may kick his ass, lol!
@@scootbmx01 That's not how TV contracts work. There would be language covering this type of circumstance, even if no money was paid because some damage could be had from the knowledge of the events. That damage could be as simple as reduced advertising rates or reduced viewers.
@@scootbmx01 I would just about guarantee that the contract covers spoilers of any kind until the show has finished airing. That's how entertainment contracts work. Even if the "employer" broke the conditions of the contract leading to the split, other parts of that contract will still be held in place. The weasels that make these contracts are paid very well to make certain things go in the production company's favor. Also consider the contract by the same company for the Corvette build and the small tire racing that will follow. It's all tied together and you take it as a package or risk the court costs and loss of income. It's a dirty industry completely stacked against the stars/subjects. Maybe if enough people speak loudly to Discovery, we might be able to "suggest" that they let Chief set things straight. Without that permission, his hands will be tied for a while. And he is smart to keep quiet until he is allowed to set things straight.
Big chief calling murder nova slow with Jeff lutz was a low blow considering they were best friends at one point and chief said he wanted to be a team again that’s not leadership that’s a man with his own plan
Chief called the Murder Nova a pile, a cockroach, a POS etc. when they were best friends too. He's said it about every other car too, even his main rivals Dave and Ryan. Shawn's no stranger to that kind of talk either. Not a big deal imo.
@@AGH69 when did this happen do you remember the season and episode because I can’t recall that And a pile and slow are two different things chief is really leaving the show something has happened to him
Shawn said a few times himself the car was slow and couldn’t really compete. 187 video had Shawn working with Lutz and praising him, so I don’t think they were to offended by being called slow.
None of these Street Outlaw shows would be anything W/O Big Chief. Let's go back to Pinks. That was the start of it all. His popularity and ingenuity started it all.
You make a great point: Axeman has shown how emotional and irrational he can get. Big Chief wouldn't have the same luxury of "losing his mind" because there's no situation where Axeman would show the same level of restraint Big Chief has shown. Big Chief should take a page from Lewis Hamilton's book (F1, Mercedes) - that is, say nothing for the moment - and see what happens next. Unfortunately, leaving the show doesn't hurt anyone but Big Chief (I don't see how he's got much leverage here), but I hope it sets him up for a big return in one form or another.
I don't think you'll see his influence until the show airs. Also, like him or not, Chief has one of the fastest cars in the country, whether it's no prep or street stuff. Dude's straight up good. With the shit Axeman pulled at the end of S1, I don't much like him at all. He's a big fuckin baby. If the show doesn't do as good as Discovery expects, you can bet Chief will be back at some point, and he might only be gone from the America's List show. He might still be in the 405 show.
Let’s be honest, Big Dawg Chief and Mrs. Jackie, are Street Outlaws! They have stayed STREET and GIVE BACK, not forgetting where they came from! What BIG CHIEF & Jackie / also others in OKC have done for the Culture, is AMAZING! Some “Knuckle Head Street Racers” (No Disrespect) but MAD Respect, have done for Drag Racing by far surpasses ANYTHING that NHRA or any other acronym sanctioned body has ever done for the sport!
Precious for sure wouldn't be making 8k per episode, JJ da boss wouldn't have his own show if it wasn't for Big Chief, they all need to check their attitudes at the door and man up. Take a bite of the pride cake set down shut the hell up and listen to the rules. If you don't like you can leave. THIS IS CHIEFS SHOW.. PERIOD !!!
Was a Chief fan... till I saw some of the bts stuff and how all of the guys said he acted like a diva since day one. He supposedly also was constantly showed up late and even got to the point where Pilgrim wasn't good enough for him, so he tried to go direct with Discovery 🤦♂️ The show is more than Chief, the editing made him the "star", while hiding the real person he was when not in front of the cameras. Sad when you learn the truth about someone you like, then bam... their real self comes out : /
Lets be honest Big Chief made Street Outlaws. I been watching since season 1 episode 1 of the OG show. And if it wasnt for Chief and the 405 no one else will even be known as much as they are
Shawn made street Outlaws, chief didn't even have a car
@@randyjohnson6640 Wow that’s an ignorant statement!!
Nope. It was Limpy. He just chose not to be on TV.
@@randyjohnson6640 thank you. Shawn and the og murder nova is what put the 405 on the map and is the main reason discovery came to them for a show
Chief made 405 fast. He has been leading them since the TV show Pinks. Cheif is Street Outlaws Period! Cheif and Ryan are the two best. Chief came from nothing to be were he is at. Underdog story all day!
For many, Big Chief and the 405 basically saved drag racing in this country. The NHRA had destroyed it over the years, the original Street Outlaws come along and basically saved it with their passion. Quite honestly, the only reason I watch the show is because of Big Chief, Daddy Dave, Murder Nova, Flip, Manza, Doc, Shane and Bob, Chuck. Those are the guys, and it seems you are having fewer and fewer moments with them.
Agreed, all those new guys are wack
I agree. Which in turn, made NHRA look in the mirror and start making subtle changes. Now they're looking good again. Drag racing as a whole got a much needed boost thanks to Street Outlaws.
Well flip passed away before the show got real big so thats why you do t see him, but i quit watching shortly after because you can tell more and more its staged
Maybe for the couch dragracers, they did
Nailed it
One thing to remember is that NONE of these shows would exist today if Chief hadn't agreed to let the original producer (who they thought might be a cop) shoot them out street racing. And out of that sprang the original Street Outlaws show. All these racers on all the current shows owe Chief a debt of gratitude for the money they are making today.
Your reaching no one is chief shit period !!!! Life goes on new faces new cars new cars etc ....chief didn't pay for Thier race cars !!!!?😇😁😆😭🤣 If they don't have a race car too race no one would race !!!😁😆😇😭🤣😂
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He's not reaching. There would be no Street Outlaws without Chief and the 405. They are the OG's for a reason. Yeah, those people would still have race cars but they'd be doing what they were doing before the show. Racing at the track.
And there's nothing wrong with racing at the track btw.
Facts
I miss the days when the show was mostly about you working on you car. There was a certain fun in watching you try new things, seeing your sense of accomplishment, watching as you learned to do things that you hadn't done previously and seeing you seek out the input of your viewers. That was a great and unusual format.
We’ll be back to that this summer. I don’t have the time to do anything with Betsy during the winter because of school plus I don’t do well with the cold lol. From what I have been told the weekly shows I want to go to are happening again this summer which I can not wait to go to in Betsy!
Who can forget murder nova reaching down and pulling a beer tab out of Flips carb from the old elco? That was classic street outlaws. RIP FLIP
@@mbowman240 right thats when it was good.
I miss back when it was actually about racing actual street legal cars...illegally. Ya know..like STREET OUTLAWS 🤷♂️
it was never about that, it was about the craziness that happened at the races and the racing. We rarely seen them work on their cars tbh
Big Chief is Street Outlaws period l. He wouldn’t walk away over nothing.. he doesn’t care about the money. He stays true to his beliefs and the streets. He also supports Jackie he has his priorities in order
He cares about money or he would no be selling merch !
no prep kings asking for more money lol
@@fr_clan.official8938 racing ain't free
Thats why he left hid wife and children, and Even saying i have no time for My children, thats keeping his prioriteres right
@@fr_clan.official8938 dumbest comment on the internet
BIG CHIEF IS THE ONLY REASON WHY I WATCH THE SHOW LIKE OTHER PEOPLE SAY HE IS THE STREET OUTLAWS
Agree 100%
Big chief is OG
Thats fact But seriously dont believe everything you hear unless it comes from Chief himself
@John John 405 is better than JJ and his bitchrs
YEPS....
JUSTIN MADE HIS 405 BUDDIES RICH BUT NOW HE MUST BECOME A TRUE LEGEND....
IMO if they wanted America's List to be 100% legit there would be no "Chase is the Race" only losers need gimmicks to win!
Thank you i agree
Bingo, and this I bet is what it was about. Memphis and their stupid chase is the race is not true street and doesn't prove who the faster is.
That chase is a race is some of JJ's cheating hustling shit. JJ is a hustler first and a racer second. That's just facts. I know I am going to catch some hate comments off it but I don't care. The truth is the truth!
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER!!!!
Absolute truth!
Big chief is the only reason I watch the show
Chief and Shawn for me
Me too
Me too
SAME HERE...CHIEF IS THE EINSTEIN OF DRAG RACING
Same
Chief and the 405 MADE drag racing bigger then it EVER was.
On gawd
IF CHIEF LEAVES, IM DONE W/DISCOVERY & THE BS SHOWS FOR GOOD
Bigger than John Force? Kenny Bernstein? Don “The Snake” Prudhome? Big Daddy Don Garlits???
@@warinsidemyhead8939 just in recent times
@@warinsidemyhead8939 ye for sure lmao who are those guys!!! Maybe in the track there known but chief is known worldwide. If people that don’t even drive know you ya I’d say your bigger in the scene
Not a fan of Axman or Precious. Chief and Jackie are great at explaining the rules in the drivers meetings. Sucks that Chief is not competing and I think Chief’s racing and racing program has improved having Jackie there. People forget Jackie is a racer from a racing family.
I'm with you brother.
I 100 % agree with you 🤙🤙
The street outlaws brand shouldnt let these people that dont bring no viewers run off their main draw
I hope the 405 mops the track with memphis and l used to like memphis.
Not a fan of the MSO either. JJ I don't care for. Sorry about his wreck but don't care for him.
No Big Chief, No Street Outlaws for me I stand by him and Jackie!!
Yes always he is the best..🤓
No Titanic? No cruise ships for me!
Just like he stood by his family and kids that he left to be with Jackie ? Get the scumbag outta here
Sounds like he didn't make the list and was crying about it .that's how he acts anyway..to big of an ego..karma from his kids..chose card over his kids..he even said he didn't have time for his kids.. that's just sorry
Yeah buddy
Chief don't deal with drama, he let's the CROW do the talkin
@@markbickel3149 🤣 haters gotta hate somethin. Those that can't talk about those that do.
@@markbickel3149 you subscribe to this channel for a year just to come here and talk crap. That's devotion... sounds like a fan
@Mark Bickel If I was him I wouldn't fight either. Don't want to end up like Chuck facing charges in court and shit. Everybody wants to fight until you beat the living shit out of them, then they call the cops or sue you. Got to be smart specifically when you are famous/rich.
@Brutally Honest MF folks forget, when your an adult and fight, winning is not like a kid fight. As soon as you win and the cops come, you lose. The more money you have, the more you lose. Eddie Murphy said it best. All my guys ( bodyguards)were fighting at a club, then EVERYONE sued ME!
@Michael Bowman Exactly.
Ever since Jackie came on the scene its been tense. Sean (Murder Nova) was smart enough to get away from it because that ship was sinking. If Ryan Martin is there and you beat him you have every right to call yourself fastest in America.
Truth right here
Things absolutely changed when Jackie came around and that may not be a good thing in the end.
Boy do I disagree with your statement that since Jackie came to the show there's been friction. I have watched this show from day one and saw absolutely no conflict with Jackie and anyone else.
@@mozartmike nobody is saying friction. It's off. Used to be Justin and the 405 racers. He was always doing things with the other guys..... now you don't see him interact with anyone but Jackie. Good for him if he's happy. The only time you see him on the show without her is when he's doing interviews / narrating.
Word!!facts
Look I've been saying it since the beginning. These guy's...the 405 literally made racing as a whole more mainstream...street racing more. But without the original show none of these other racers would be nearly as popularas they are,and we definitely wouldn't have spin offs like npk or fastest in America or America's top 20. That's a fact. Murder nova had videos on UA-cam...but that wouldn't have equated to where they are now.
Real talk !!!
“If you with me be with me, if you ain’t be ain’t” people need to stop feeding into rumors and just wait for the show to come out and let them tell their side of anything that’s going on
*If you street, be street...if you ain't, be ain't.
I think Chief might be a little too struck on the street stuff now.
@@Coonass big money to be made in NPK
Outside of dabbling in other types of racing when has he ever been anything other than street
@@stephanie12416 Not always about the money my man, it's about the love of the race
If Big Chief ever left the show I wouldn't watch anymore. BIG CHIEF IS STREET OUTLAWS.......... great video Sim keep kicking ass ✌️
I feel the same 100% 👍
Thanks for watching!
@@SimABCXYZ I've been watching you since episode 7 I will watch your videos as long as you put them out. Much respect Sim ✌️
Let's just be honest there is alot of people jealous of chef and Jackie they are the ones starting rumors.... I want to see them doing no prep racing!
Sim, I must admit that when I first discovered you it was hard to follow your content. Over time I have seen the maturity of you and your content. This maturity was seen in this video today. Keep it coming buddy. I cannot get enough now!!! Thanks.
MSO is a virus to this franchise.
Agree 1000 percent. They've made a farce of it.
Just seems every filming for every show there is an issue.
Exactly! If it wasn’t for Chief and the 405 those Memphis jack assess wouldn’t exist. There’s no legitimacy to anything Memphis does.
@@kennethkreider8698 that's why I call them the Memphis cheet outlaws.
Hit the nail on the head
Shawn ain’t flagging any races because it’s pretty damn hard to run backwards in flip flops!
Lol right that just sounds funny lol have we ever seen him ever flag hell no 🤣🤣
Maybe he'll be racemaster but have someone else flagging the races? Racemaster doesn't have to be the flagger, right?
@@77yogurt true true
Farmtruck is a Sean/Shawn too.. he didn’t specify which one
Chief is a street racer. He has always talked about leaving the shows and staying in the streets. He’s more about the passion for this sport than the big money events that are damn near impossible to win unless you have the most money and the best parts money can buy
Yeah that’s why Ryan and everyone left because favoritism chief was giving to his boys ! That was enough for me to stop watching..
@@jerry7433able facts !
Remember when Cheif and Chuck were fighting over the #1 spot. Chuck was yelling and arguing and Chief said he didn't want to argue with a friend and lose a friendship
I completely forgot about that but that’s another perfect example
IMO, Chuck has always had a borderline personality disorder. Grandiose narcissism is his biggest talent.
@@SimABCXYZ I think they had an even bigger fight before that which Chief said basically ruined their friendship.
@@gcrady im surised Chuck hasnt been knocked out i guess they had a good security team to protect the little people
@@omegasquad868 ,lol, yeh, I guess he is overcompensating.
Just doesn't come across (to me) as a trustworthy team player,, otherthan being a cheerleader for Ryan. (and his wholesale parts store)
The 405 are smart guys. Doesn't seem like anyone takes anything he has to say to seriously (I hope). But dang, that mouth just never stops.
No matter what Chief and Jackie do I will support them 100% for what they've done for street racing!. Good job reporting!.
What's exactly did Jackie do?
They didnt do anything!, it's a matter of what direction the rumors are saying!, watch and understand the content of this video!.
Axman punked out against Chief!
Kid you are correct about Chief. If you do not race Big Chief you are not the fastest period!
I've lost all respect for Memphis.
Without Big Chief I will watch Billy and Tommy.
Billy and Tommy had a good weekend. Love them and the old man!
As far as Discrediting the show because Cheif isn't there. I feel isnt really the case. Since Cheif choose to leave on his own accord, nobody made him leave, It was his decision. I understand & respect his decision to leave, but you cant discredit everyone else out there lining them up because he decided to say screw it. Also if we find out that Cheif didn't do as well as he usually does on the 405 show on tv right now. Then that would be even more reason, that him not being there, wont discredit America list.
If chief isn’t on the show I probably won’t watch!!
I think it became less “street” for him and it became no fun. Look at his previous videos. He’s out testing his new small tire car. Hes excited to get Jackie’s car going and wanting to race in true street races and back of the track races. I think the argument with precious was just the straw that broke the camels back. I bet we start seeing him do a lot of racing with Billy from SRC with Mr Crow, Caddy Jack and the corvette.
I KNOW JUSTIN AND JACKIE WILL READ THIS. Chief brings Legitimacy. Chief brings Ethical Thinking. Chief brings Fairness. N o C H I E F N o S H O W
Absolutely he is why we have the show street outlaws to watch Love ya Chief and Jackie
left his wife and left shawn... sooooo...OK BRO........Just saying...although they came and raced with us and they were really nice...
@@couchfighter uhm... Shawn left Midwest streetcars. Chief didn't kick him out. Might want to check your facts bro
@@couchfighter did they come and race on your couch? 🤣🤣🤣
@@couchfighter this is all correct, and he did it to get even MORE real than the old Chief, he became a bigger better version.. remember in the first season, he didn’t even race! Then his focus shifted and the show grabbed a hold.
MSo wanted the chase is a race chief said no we are doing the light that's the only way you can see who is the fastest that's why MSo don't do npk cause they can't compete unless it is the hussle
Did you not watch Mega Cash Days? Memphis did much better than the 405 on just a flashlight. Your statement is not supported by facts.
People need to realize without chief, none of these shows would be on tv.
It was a group effort that made Street Outlaws what it is today.
He was d the only one car dude..he would s to conceded..cry baby..got to be his way or no way..that's why Shaun got tired of his ass
I feel like Chief is tired of the spotlight and track racers who claim street, he just want to race any street anytime. I hope he does bow out of the tv bs and goes back to what he loves
Oh I see it clearly, he’s definitely over the drama of hot heads that don’t listen.
How does one afford to do that without the show or any of the other appearance events that pay you to be there? You have to have a lot of subscribers and content on UA-cam to be able to afford what they do with no other source of income.
Just throwing this out there. You have said this before, "it's a TV show." What does a TV show need? Drama. Can't see Chief walking away from what I assume is a pretty good paycheck.
I'm speechless ,, Rumors fly around all the time, and I just ignore , or try to rebut them,, but when they turn out to be even worse than what was said, that's just jaw-dropping news.
Drag racing news its SHOCKING
He isn’t quitting this is bul717&%
If Big Chief was quiting the show then he would have no problem telling everyone to clear his name but if he can't say anything then that means Big Chief and Jackie didn't quite it just makes more sense that way...if Big Chief can't talk about it then that means he didn't quite and he's still under contract...and another thing if Big Chief is still out there testing on the streets with the Crow then that means he didn't quite the show....just thought I'll throw my two cents worth in.....Thanks Sim.
Even if he quit, he would still be bound by the contract.
You make a very good point 👍
There are multiple shows... just because he quit one doesn't mean he quit them all.
Mathew fact is you don't know shit about these contractual obligations, if the contract says that you take a dump at 3:30 every afternoon and you don't you break your end of the agreement.
Chief and Murder Nova are basically the only reason I watch that stuff. And what do you expect with MSO they are all about the drama. Chief, Murder Nova, Dave, Fireball, their youtube vids are better than the show in my opinion.
When I first heard the rumor Chief left I didn’t believe it and I’m still not convinced Chief would leave the show he’s responsible for over something petty. Even if it were a heated argument what could anybody possibly say to make him of all people just say “f it I’m done”? It doesn’t add up at all, there has to be way more to this story.
Yeah something big happened in the first drivers meeting.
I'm guessing that they're just not down with all of the drama. Like the man always says "I just wanna race"
Exactly, more to the story than just a argument
If he walked out on his kids..what u think he would do..
Thanks for this video SIM!
It’s none of my business, but we may never know what Really happened, even if they do “air” it on an episode, nor do we have a right to know - unless we hear it - voluntarily - straight from those involved and then - and only then, opinions can be made from there.
Again, It’s none of my business, what happened, but if Big Chief & Jackie aren’t on America’s List, I’m not inclined to watch it. (I’m a 405 follower and mean No disrespect to the rest of the 405 Guys)
Although street racing has been around since before he was born, Big Chief has transcended the ‘sport’ and not only elevated its evolution, but told the Entire World: “This Is What We Do!”
He deserves more than respect from those who are involved in what “they do”!
TTVE KOKO
God Bless
😎
I stand with Thai comment. Not interested in any show without Big Chief…I love NPK live events, but not interested in watching it on tv. Lots of drama and the world has enough of that.
Take the shows airing, with a grain of salt. There will be editing involved.
insert still shot of chief reacting to reaper saying "you know we got a problem" moment
Hey Sim still looking good man. Thanks for all you do and keeping us updated. I’m glad Jackie and Chief doesn’t deal with drama. Enjoy your week. 👍😎✌️TTVE 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
Cheif and Jackie are all about drama
Ah that’s crazy. Thats the first I’ve heard about this. Keep us posted my man! I wish Big Chief and Jackie the best and hope all is well.
Hopefully he just stops being the race master giving him time to actually work on his car. I won’t watch anything without chief in it. 6 hours ago he said they didn’t leave due to a disagreement or that they’d left at all
I really hope that cooler heads can prevail and he does come back. I dont see a guy like Chief quitting anything let alone Fastest in America.
Chief needs to go ahead and get 1320 involved, get billy from src involved and do something in the future.
Im down for the cause!!!! They would would lead in a new erra ! Again.
Billy is too busy with Matt the mooch.
No chief no show! Who let him leave? Those producers should all be fired! I am not watching this joke of a show without chief! They let the man who started it all walk away and didn’t support him? Complete idiots!
I'm assuming this is from the stream? I wish your other videos could be more like this. You are way more relaxed and not speaking 1,000 words per second. Your excitement in other videos doesn't always seem genuine. But this time you had the scoop and I enjoyed watching it. I know it will be months, but I'm interested to see how much they show from this situation.
Precious shouldn't be on the show, she's not one of the fastest in America. She's only there because of JJ
Totally a agree queen of what she has been loosing quite a bit invthe last two years
I think Big chief and Billy the Kid are going to start a Small Tire show. I think more people were relating to Street Outlaws at first. The public felt like they were more in the every day working class back then. Plus that would get Jackie into it also. Chief has a small tire car.
Yeah maybe chief could make billy fast
I get so damn tired of hearing off wit ya head! That shit gets so old! Without chief it will go down the tubes! The start of the 405 is what made it ! The chemistry of that crew!!!
Off wit ya head, ya whole head 😂
I'm 75 years old and I love Big Chief! ❤ u will not be watching America's last if Chief and Jackie are not here 😤 😔
I to am sad to hear this I am a big fan of Chief and Jackie the show will not be the same without them hopefully they will keep up with the UA-cam videos so we can get our fix thanks for the info Sim keep up the good work #ttve
I've learned to not believe rumors. Until you actually hear from the ppl involved.
I agree completely, but they said they are not yet able to address the rumors so this the best we got. Plus I did not get any of my info from rumors on social media.
I appreciate how you handled this. Unfortunately rumors tend to get out of hand. I'm sure we will know more in the future. I commend Chief for being racemaster I couldn't handle having to deal with all the games and drama. Not that some don't have legitimate claims but it's gotta be a headache
I was rebutting a comment on MWSC last video, someone was accusing them of "manufacturing" these rumors for clickbait. JUSTIN jumped in and left a LONG rebuttal about the situation, and hinted that there maybe long term consequences.
@@shisnoelite7790 dealing with all that you said ➕ trying figure out your car and the tunning, shits gotta be rough
@@sithshallrulethegalaxy485 oh yeah I didn't even include him having to get his car ready too
I hope that some of the ungrateful racers who are bashing Big Chief realize that if it wasn't for him some of you wouldn't be making the money your making now. Because of Big Chief drag racing is now back on the map. I know that there is one guy who likes to run at the mouth thinking he's a big shot. He's a short plump guy who seems to be ungrateful. One of these days he's going to open his mouth to the wrong guy and they will shut it. Sad if Big Chief is no longer racing with the 405. Again he is the guy who put you racers on the map.
Its hard for chief to test with procharger cars cause they are so loud and cant drive them to starting line so trailers gonna be on side of road he test with lutz all time and racing is not a team sport i dont know why people dont get that the 405 race together to rep there city but they all go for number 1 cause its not a number 2 sport chief did nothing wrong especially seems like most of the 405 now act like ryan is there hero to me
How do you explain Ryan, Shawn and Dave testing at the same time all making a hit with their procharger set ups?
Me to it’s because they can’t beat them cheif has
@@drewwrobel564 i didnt say they fouldnt i was just repeating what chief said so go watch his you tube video if u dont wanna believe me idc
There's only 2 reasons why Chief would completely leave the show, either way too much drama and bs or he's being forced to . I say that because it's turned into more of a drama than actual racing if you watch how it's edited and trying to be at the top of a list in your crowd of friends is just asking for trouble, instead of competing with each other why not focus on beating everyone else. There's so much drama I don't even care to watch anymore.
My guess it's all staged, could be wrong but we will all see in time.
NO KIDDING...IT SUX
IF CHIEF IS GONE THEN IM DUMPING CABLE...ITS A RIPOFF ANYWAYS
@@trmcfadden4286 I kind of thought that too when they keep repeating in the OG show right now how they aren't acting like a team and how Chief should be a better racemaster ect..
The drama I can't stand anymore. Also some of the rules is crap. I can't stand chase is a race, people always jumping the light to get them to chase..it's just stupid..then racers dodging call outs, just race end of story .
I stand with big chief and Jackie
I SWEAR ILL DUMP CABLE TODAY IF I FINDOUT ITS TRUE, RUMORS FLOATING AROUND ABOUT CHUCKY CHASING JACKIE ON SET
Yesterday in Chiefs video.someone commented about it being fake drama etc. Chief replied that whatever was going on, it wouldn’t just affect his career but his whole life. I’m not sure what he meant by that but, it doesn’t sound good either . I’ll support Chief till the end bc NONE of those guys would be doing what they’re doing without Chief. They ALL owe him big time for being able to race for a living. Hell, remember Dave was always driving someone else’s car bc he couldn’t afford to build his own and now look at him. He has a badass street car and a quarter million dollar NPK car. How soon they forget.
It was a group effort that made the show.
Glad to Hear some TRUTH about this situation. Thankx for keeping it REAL👍🏻👍🏻
I guess we'll all see this on T.V next year
Ryan is the Fastest in the 405 . No loss
Wonder how Pilgrim is going to edit the argument. Both sides can explain their side but when Pilgrim edits it, it can make it look so different.
That’s a good point. We’ve seen in the past how arguments have been portrayed to be very one sided
@@SimABCXYZ exactly
Couple years ago murder nova said something at the starting line about someones wheelie bar height. They made it sound like it was an argument or something but when he and Justin went on their you tube, it was nothing even close about it...
Pilgrim, just like all reality filming like to start stuff
@@jbuckshot01 it was kamakazi wheelie bar on the elco
@@sithshallrulethegalaxy485 Yes now i remember. I remember how they edited it and made it different than what really did happen.. Thanks
Sucks that precious queen of the big mouths on the street would cause chief to not be on America's list. Sad state of affairs here.
Big Chief is Street Outlaws. Nothing will come close to what he has made this into(or even what he and Shawn had with their podcast). If he had to walk away from some bs with Memphis(which he has alluded to before that he doesn’t like some things about what JJ has become or done of late) then I can tell you the majority of this fan base is behind him. Listener #69
Sort of sucks for the 405 to not have Chief there to help the turbo guys with their tuning. Chief could have been a helpful tool for Monza and Youngblood
From what monza has shown so far on the new season and what he has said Youngblood has the tuning figured out and the upgrades to the chassis have made it a consistent car again.. Monza has said the car has never been this good
From what I’ve seen chief is no team player
@@martinhuotari9584 TV portraits all of them to create more drama etc. It's turned into wwf wrestling... look at reaper he's nothing like the guy who was shown on tv
Maybe big chief the racemaster left and went home, but big chief the racer is still there kicking ass? 🤔 really hard for me to believe they would just leave everything they've built over an argument with precious, but stranger things have happened.
See the thing is Chief is fast yes but the fastest dude on the show by far has proven to be Ryan
I don't always make a comment on your videos. Watching the live feed is what makes my week. Jackie on the live feed is a very appreciated bonus. I have seen other UA-cam people showing this video and making comments about your information. Most say you are amazing at finding the facts about street outlaws. What is funny the Chief haters are so uninformed. They mouth off and can't except that Chief and Jackie could possibly take the high road like they did. Keep up your undying love for street outlaws. Your true fans are definitely Chief and Jackie fans too.
I appreciate that a lot! For the people hating on me, this video, and Chief and Jackie it is exactly as you said and they simply are just uninformed. A common misconception I have seen a lot is when Chief and Jackie filmed their most recent youtube video and where I got the information I stated in this video. Nothing I said was based on rumors it was all from primary sources. But hey I think it's pretty cool that I've got real information that is so mind blowing people instantly assume its fake lol. As always man thanks for watching and hope all is well!
Shawn has never been a a race master in 10+yrs of street outlaws! However, I do think the entire 405 and possibly the Memphis crew too have turned their backs on Chief when it was Chief that actually made Street Outlaws the most popular show on Discovery. Without Chief, there would be no spin-off shows of Street Outlaws because the 405 show would’ve never made it without Chief. Chief made the 405 show entertaining and was comfortable in front of the camera wayyyy before everyone else. Memphis wouldn’t even have a show if it weren’t for Chief and then the 405 guys who got famous in later seasons. Without Chief, none of this ever happened! Facts! Chief was and always will be the most important street outlaw. Not to mention he is the most famous too!
No point to argue with a back woods nobody that’s never accomplished anything other than tugging on JJs coat tail. Sucks people like that ruin a good thing and chief isn’t there
Jj is the most dangerous and careless scammer they could've brought on. I honestly haven't really watched since he came out. He even let's the women in family get hurt because they're not qualified. Safety isn't part of his racing. He even wrecked a car while it's on the trailer lol. He's just dangerous,mostly a snake in the grass tho.
Hope you're saying JJ is a nobody, because Chief started this shit! Go back and watch 1320 videos of street racing years and years ago! Not to mention pinks 20 years ago.
Memphis kicks 405 ass on regular basis don't like JJ because can't beat him.Cry me a river.
@@rmzlife no that’s what I’m saying , chief is the only reason these people are on tv. Chief is also the 🐐
@@raymorgan7177 lmfao maybe chuck on a regular basis . Memphis doesn’t have anything for chief , Dave , Ryan , lutz
I would say regardless of what happened the 405 has Chiefs and Jackie's back. I remember all the talk back in 2017 when chief went to NPK and after a few races won the whole thing that was awesome and that was the start of the street racing channel
I feel like Discovery encourages this drama and fights, I don't know why, because most people don't care about that We want to see who's fastest. When I want to see fights I just watch the UFC not Street Outlaws 🤦
They do that to try and reach a certain demographic, problem is it tends to turn off there core demographic.
@@SketchysGarage You're tight lipped about this whole thing, I would venture to say that you may know a little something about it. Eh, scotty?
@@77yogurt I know it's a grind to just be there and race much less race and be the racemaster. Plus they are filming twice as much as usual. It's not hard to say enough is enough.
@@SketchysGarage that's not what I meant but I shouldn't have put you on the spot like that. That wasn't right on my part.
Big Chief is the main reason that I started watching Street Outlaws and he is the reason that I continue to watch it. If he leaves the show, I’m not sure it would still keep my interest.
These guys are marketing geniuses, it’s like watching a soap opera, it keeps it interesting 👌
The arguments and all the drama is not set up or scripted. That’s just racing…
However, Justin posted a vid of him still testing for Americas List 2 days after this was posted so still not sure of the situation.
It seems that nearly EVERYONE has gone 'Hollywood' and wants to get famous. *Big Chief is the ONLY one that HAS NOT changed.*
Big Chief did not start or create street outlaws all the 405 as a group helped the show get off the ground
And for those of you who have never street raced or drag raced do not truly understand what goes on .....
Arguments , fights etc happen at the majority of street races and or drag races !!!!!
It's not scripted for TV i assure you .....
I've been at midwest when chief and shawn were filming on a few occasions and the producer was almost in tears due to how things were going that day as far as filming goes !!!!!
It's not all roses and rainbows in real life or during filming
Chief is the reason why i watch. He knows and understands the streets as good, if not more, than anyone.
I don’t know why people don’t give Justin the respect he deserves. He absolutely started this show and brought it to the everyday household name that we all know today. Even if you don’t like him give respect where respect is due.
He didn't start Street Outlaws alone.
Street outlaws wouldn't be around if it wasn't for Big Cheif!! He's the sole reason that it's as big as it today
Actually Shawn is the reason street outlaws exists
I'm pretty sure that big cheif is the reason that street outlaws exists, giving that all the drivers said that and it's obvious lol. Without Big Cheif there wouldn't be any street outlaw shows at all
@@dylanparker9348 chief said and I quote “Shawn and the og murder nova carried us all the way to Hollywood”.
@@Brandon_093 Justin Shearer was tuning Murder Nova then not Shawn. Murder Nova hasn’t been the same since he left Midwest Street cars.
@@tylercrow4912 because he’s running a 20 year old chassis which isn’t allowing him to put the power down he needs to be competitive. But he fixed that this past year
Sad that all you support Chief. Ever see the way he treats his fans? He literally said he can't stand the fans. He even said racing is more important then his family is. The money and fame got to him and changed him. He isn't the same person that started Street Outlaws.
Its a shame that this man has changed so much since getting involved with jackie. Go back watch the show and the difference is unreal. One more thing he is not gonna be involved in because of something jackie was involved in
Did he really put a black suit on for this shit!?!?! LMAO
It just wouldn't be the same without him full stop. I hope he is in the show some how other than the drama on the first night🤞. TTVE 🇦🇺🤙
About Chief and Axman... I remember a spirited argument I had with an old boss years ago. It was passionate on both sides and he tolerated it pretty well up to the point where he wheeled around on me and said "Look. You might be right. But I don't THINK you're right." This argument reminds me of that. Chief was the boss. If you're arguing with the boss, he's gonna win. Should never have gotten that far.
precious always carries her self like she high or medicated
I've often seen a few from Memphis with that sawing jaw action going on.. I'm not naming anyone but watch the new season of fastest in America you will be able to see clenched jaws and mouths moving abnormal and if you have ever been around someone who is using meth you can spot the signs
Because she is
I've heard other racers that have been around with mso saying that they were tired but had to fix a car and then mso showed up and they weren't tired anymore and everything got done
She's a crash who cares
I've been watching Street Outlaws since the early days--when it was about drag racing. I loved to watch them drag race. Big Chief brought street drag racing back. I hope these guys get it together and stand tough. A person doesn't want to watch them kill the golden goose.
Awesome video Sam, it’s definitely a blow to the show, sometimes Precious really irritates me, for whatever reason she’s not been one of the fastest and even took some time off. I’m a huge Justin and Jackie fan so they will definitely be missed.
Thanks for watching!
I agree. There's always 1 or 2 people like that when you go out street racing( been street racing over 25 yrs) but on the other thing. I did read she does have health issues thats why shes taken time off. Last year or year before there was an article written about MSO. Scoliosis i think but not 100% sure
sim do you think some of it is because he has a lot of pressure making and enforcing the rules. like he said last year it’s hard for him to be a race master and a racer because sometimes he has to enforce rules that benefit him
I can't hardly stand to watch street outlaws shows that have the Memphis people in it. Big Chief is literally the biggest name in street outlaws. Without the 405 and Chief there would never be a street outlaws.
Everything you see on Street Outlaws TV present happened over 1 year ago exactly time frame.
We are watching the past live.
I'll have to ask, how much of this drama is created to get interest hyped for the show? As far as not talking about it, they are probably under contract prohibiting them from spoiling anything. Do we know for a fact that they are home with a fully race ready car?
The message Jackie typed out suggested that these rumors were not true. Is it possible that between the time that rules were initially negotiated and when everyone got on the set that something changed in a way that Chief is not willing to compromise. Add an argument to that factor and time to go cool off?
I will say this, as pressure gets put on the show from videos like this, they will need some kind of statement. You can't just lose a key subject (if this is true) without some kind of statement.
Exactly! Of course they can’t say what happened, if anything at all happened. Wouldn’t be the first time drama was created to raise show ratings. Ol Sim here is click baiting using the title “BIG CHIEF QUITS STREET OUTLAWS” but says he doesn’t know then talks ab Jackie’s sign, etc. The show is BCs baby he def isn’t going to walk over bs drama, Jackie wouldn’t let him make a mistake so quickly-she may kick his ass, lol!
If they quit, any contract is void.
@@scootbmx01 That's not how TV contracts work. There would be language covering this type of circumstance, even if no money was paid because some damage could be had from the knowledge of the events. That damage could be as simple as reduced advertising rates or reduced viewers.
@@minigpracing3068 depends on the conditions of said contract. But unless it explicitly stipulates they cannot talk about it then its fair game.
@@scootbmx01 I would just about guarantee that the contract covers spoilers of any kind until the show has finished airing. That's how entertainment contracts work. Even if the "employer" broke the conditions of the contract leading to the split, other parts of that contract will still be held in place. The weasels that make these contracts are paid very well to make certain things go in the production company's favor.
Also consider the contract by the same company for the Corvette build and the small tire racing that will follow. It's all tied together and you take it as a package or risk the court costs and loss of income. It's a dirty industry completely stacked against the stars/subjects.
Maybe if enough people speak loudly to Discovery, we might be able to "suggest" that they let Chief set things straight. Without that permission, his hands will be tied for a while. And he is smart to keep quiet until he is allowed to set things straight.
It's really strange if he did quit was it really was precious or is it because Ryan Martin is the fastest car now with 405
Big chief calling murder nova slow with Jeff lutz was a low blow considering they were best friends at one point and chief said he wanted to be a team again that’s not leadership that’s a man with his own plan
Yeah man why is nobody talking about that. Thats a shitty move smh
@@pnutthe_after_life2078 right
Chief called the Murder Nova a pile, a cockroach, a POS etc. when they were best friends too. He's said it about every other car too, even his main rivals Dave and Ryan. Shawn's no stranger to that kind of talk either. Not a big deal imo.
@@AGH69 when did this happen do you remember the season and episode because I can’t recall that
And a pile and slow are two different things chief is really leaving the show something has happened to him
Shawn said a few times himself the car was slow and couldn’t really compete. 187 video had Shawn working with Lutz and praising him, so I don’t think they were to offended by being called slow.
None of these Street Outlaw shows would be anything W/O Big Chief. Let's go back to Pinks. That was the start of it all. His popularity and ingenuity started it all.
You make a great point: Axeman has shown how emotional and irrational he can get. Big Chief wouldn't have the same luxury of "losing his mind" because there's no situation where Axeman would show the same level of restraint Big Chief has shown. Big Chief should take a page from Lewis Hamilton's book (F1, Mercedes) - that is, say nothing for the moment - and see what happens next. Unfortunately, leaving the show doesn't hurt anyone but Big Chief (I don't see how he's got much leverage here), but I hope it sets him up for a big return in one form or another.
I don't think you'll see his influence until the show airs. Also, like him or not, Chief has one of the fastest cars in the country, whether it's no prep or street stuff. Dude's straight up good. With the shit Axeman pulled at the end of S1, I don't much like him at all. He's a big fuckin baby. If the show doesn't do as good as Discovery expects, you can bet Chief will be back at some point, and he might only be gone from the America's List show. He might still be in the 405 show.
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Let’s be honest, Big Dawg Chief and Mrs. Jackie, are Street Outlaws!
They have stayed STREET and GIVE BACK, not forgetting where they came from!
What BIG CHIEF & Jackie / also others in OKC have done for the Culture, is AMAZING!
Some “Knuckle Head Street Racers”
(No Disrespect) but MAD Respect, have done for Drag Racing by far surpasses ANYTHING that NHRA or any other acronym sanctioned body has ever done for the sport!
Precious for sure wouldn't be making 8k per episode, JJ da boss wouldn't have his own show if it wasn't for Big Chief, they all need to check their attitudes at the door and man up. Take a bite of the pride cake set down shut the hell up and listen to the rules. If you don't like you can leave. THIS IS CHIEFS SHOW.. PERIOD !!!
Shawn ain't race master material
You’re funny
Was a Chief fan... till I saw some of the bts stuff and how all of the guys said he acted like a diva since day one. He supposedly also was constantly showed up late and even got to the point where Pilgrim wasn't good enough for him, so he tried to go direct with Discovery 🤦♂️
The show is more than Chief, the editing made him the "star", while hiding the real person he was when not in front of the cameras. Sad when you learn the truth about someone you like, then bam... their real self comes out : /
If he's gone then the show is done. It's not street outlaws without him
This show exists because of everyone involved not just one or two people
Sounds like I’m done watching this tv show just sounds like to much drama