Real Road Test: Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor! Part 1 - Walkaround and waffle
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Australia vs USA, in the UK! We know you've been waiting for this one. I finally compare the @furiousdriving Ford Crown Vic with my Ford AU Fairmont. In this video, I walk around the car with Matt, who takes me through the history and details of this Detective-spec Police Interceptor. Did someone say V8?
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The day has arrived. The meeting the whole interweb has been waiting for.
A nice example of a police interdeptor.
I live near Beachwood Ohio so yes, it was exposed to a lot of road salt...and pot holes. In that town,most of the miles were likely to the local donut shop.
you never know
A group test of biblical proportions from two UA-cam legends. It was bound to happen and I'm so glad it did. Thanks for sharing 👍
Body-on-frame vehicles are still common here in America. All of our pickup trucks 😅 P.S. when "civilian" sales were discontinued for the Crown Victoria (2003), a major chassis change was that the rear shock absorbers were moved from outside the frame to the inside (which improves the handling, at the expense of ride quality and maintenance). Prior to 2003, an individual could walk into a Ford dealership and buy a Crown Victoria (as long as it wasn't the Police Interceptor model). There was also a Mercury variant, the Mercury Grand Marquis. And there was a limited production high performance version of the Grand Marquis called the Marauder (worth a lot of coin today!).
Matt is so enthusiastic. He has so much information to convey he can't get the words out quickly enough.
Most of the Crown Vic taxis in NYC were special long-wheelbase models, so even with the barrier they still had adequate rear seat legroom. But needless to say, rear seat passengers of the police cars were not afforded such luxury. Did Mr. Furious hold your head down as you climbed in the back, as the cops do?
I found that with the partition leg room is still good, saying that though the one i have doesn't go all the way down so your feet can go under the front seats if you want but leg room really hasn't dissapeared at all, it's just weird having the screen there in front of you.
When I spent a few weeks working in New York many years ago every taxi was a Crown Victoria. I've wanted one ever since!
Much respect to someone overseas that wanted a (Canadian) American police car. I've watched the vids when he bought one and I love his videos. I'm a big enthusiast myself.
Ian and Matt, the ultimate UK automotive power duo!
An American Ford and an Aussie Ford meet in the UK! And two UA-cam classic car legends meet up! Fantastic video this!
These are wonderful cars. I love my ‘03 Grand Marquis.
You'll need a boating license to sail that crown vic 🤣🤣
_-The first twelve feet fit in the garage _*_magnifficently!_*_ But then you have 3 feet on a pavement, and two other feet on the road. And if you put the whole thing on the road, you'll have to pay a council tax, cause it's a mobile home._ (c) James Steed
I was a fleet services mechanic for a large U.S. city for 40 years, and worked on millions (only a slight exaggeration there) of Crown Vics. I started driving them about 25 years ago, and haven't owned any other kind of cars since. I now have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis with only 47K miles on it. Like new. Will likely last me the rest of my life. These are 500K mile cars if taken care of. Same as a civilian Crown Vic. The P71 is actually NOT the one you want. I have driven both, and the P71 has a much rougher ride, due to it's suspension designed for handling, and due to a much lower rear end ratio, the engine runs a lot faster at any given speed, burning more gas and wearing things out faster. Mine has an AOD (automatic overdrive) 4 speed transmission, and will get 30 mpg at 65 mph on the highway with the cruise control on. It rides like you're floating on air. And it's big. I'm 6' 240, and I like a big car. I especially like the V8 engine, rear wheel drive, solid rear axle, and body on frame construction. For a Crown Vic/Grand Marquis (again, same car) you want a 2003-2011. They made some significant improvements in 2003. They went to a rack and pinion steering setup, and the front end is built stronger than some trucks. These things are tanks. Mine is an Arizona car, never seen rain, much less salt. Zero rust. You do need to be careful about getting a white one. From the very beginning the white paint was defective, and began peeling off in huge sheets after a few years. And they can't be repainted without removing ALL the original defective paint. All other colors are ok.
It must be so exciting to drive that around there and see everyone's reaction to it.
What a great day - to see the two ‘foreign Fords’ side by side! Cannot wait to see the tests! Great video chaps! Matt’s enthusiasm is infectious too!
A lot of these vehicles are still in service as taxis. One, heading south of me, has hundreds of these parked up for years!
Even its twin, the Mercury Grand Marquis, are still on the road because you simply cannot kill them except for rust. They are spacious, comfortable and get reasonable fuel mileage despite its size and weight.
Mid to south Florida is a good place to pick up late model Panthers, especially if you like Town Cars. Also many nice ones near Atlanta.
Not in NY u will be lucky see 1 taxi
As a testament to how ginormous the rear seat is in the Crown Vic, I have the following story to tell: Back in 2010, me and my then wife was planing to live in LA. We flew in from Spain (her country of origin) and among other things, I brough my mountainbike. To protect my bike, I transported it in the box it was sold in. We had to take a taxi from LAX to the house we were going to rent, that could take all our stuff. First we tried with a minivan (Toyota Sienna or similar) - did not work. The bikebox would not fit. Then we tried a Crown Vic taxi. The box did not fit in the otherwise enormous boot, but if did fit in between the rear and front seats! I had to sit sideways, with my legs on the seats, but hey, I could bring the bike! Amazing!
This has to be christmas!! Two of my favourite youtubers doing a joint-venture video?! Dam yeah!!
Very nice to see these cars all over the world! Greetings from a german Crown Vic owner from Virginia!
I saw a Police Crown Vic in Germany on the way through. It was jet black with chrome mini hubcaps, bull bar and 2 search lights, looked so cool.
Oooh yes, I've been waiting for these two fords to be compared
They're both so similar yet so different !
They're like the same thing, but from different parallel universes hehe
A note for Matt: the "Panther" goes back way before 78. It was based on the 72-79 Mid-sized 2 door platform. That, in turn, was based on the full-sized 65-68 platform. The amount that can actually move from a 65 Ford Galaxie 500 to a 2010 Crown Victoria us exceedingly small, but the wheel base changed a whole ⅛ of an inch in all those years, and it was how the spindles mount in relation to the wheel arch in the frame.
The boot on the Crown Vic is 21.3 cubic feet with a full spare. The J Hook for the spare goes in the bracket in the middle. P71, P72 (both Police Packages), Performance/Handling as well as Trailer Tow III Package cars all came with full spare tires. In Canada, all 4 packages included Traction Lok limited slip Axel's with Performance Ratio. In the US Traction Lok was a separate option.
I went through a police car phase in the mid eighties. Both of my cars were B-body big block Mopars. I had a slicktop gold 77 Plymouth Fury (440) and a former county 77 Dodge Monaco (400). Back then I thought they were the last fast Mopars we would ever have. They were much faster than the police cars of the day. Thanks to both of you for the video. Cheers.
Good to see Matt's got his cup ready for teashelf testing
Awesome video, that's great you both seem so enthusiastic about it. Looks a fantastic clean car.
Slight note is the Mercury Marauder is the high performance one. So it's a 4v and very sought after as it's 300 bhp and the others are between 220-240 depending on the year. The Mercury Grand Marquis is the 2v
A great combo. You and Matt I mean but also the cars. The only thing that could have enhanced it would be Doug discussing quirks and Bill from Curious Cars reviewing potential weapon storage. Nice.
The trunk release handle's correct name is "The Gangster Handle" and its a regulation to design and fit them in new cars for the US!
Lovely to see you guys together talking about eachothers monstrously big but beautiful rides. Was laughing when you said at the end "po-po's coming through". I guess with both the Interceptor and the Fairmont people will think twice about ignoring them :-)
At least this one was saved before Cleetus McFarland could buy it for a Freedom 500 race.
I’ve been waiting for these videos ever since finding out FuriousDriving had bought the Crown Vic. ❤️
Two great channels, two great guys…and two great cars. Lovely to see your respective love for these left field cars. Thanks for this long overdue meeting of minds.
Really looking forward to the comparison drives of these to-was so good to see them side by side at the NEC!
Yay, my two favourites on one video!
Great episode. Love Matts enthusiasm about the car.
Really have been looking forward to this collaboration - great work both!
That Crown Vic is just a timeless piece of design, at current fuel prices I dread to think what it costs to fill the tank.
Yay!
Great collaboration and presentation
Brilliant video Ian 👍 two great cars but couldn't pick between them both beautiful cars
This is the head to head we've all been waiting for. Presumably Miss Hubnut and Mrs Furious are off camera assembling a wall of cardboard boxes in time for the chase scene
That sounds like something Clarkson might do ...Matt and Ian are far more sensible..even
if I heard Matt say ''there's no sensible answer to that''
This is brilliant 👏...like a ' Weekend Special , ! : well done Furious Nut's ... looking forward to the Hub Driving 🚗 😀
This is Brilliant! The enthusiasm of Matt had me grinning like a Cheshire Cat! ;)
Great interview! Thanks lads! 👍
Yessss! The one I've waited for!
I've been looking forward to this and it hasn't disappointed. Marvellous
Such a great video. Loved it.
It's a big old boat anchor, but a real beauty. Thanks for the video, both of you. 🙂👍
The fire system on the rear of those Fords came about because several instances of those cars catching fire because of rear wrecks ! One of our officers here in Phoenix Az was severly burned in one of those wrecks . His name is Jason Schechterle, he was a strong reason Ford had to fix those cars. Look for him online and see his story about the car and him. Tell the man that owns the car also. There are some good stories about him and show the car he was burned in.
Thank you. I've had comments doubting the facts around this. Just horrible.
@@HubNut You are welcome mate ! And before I forget , condolences on the recent loss of your sister !
Fantastic! Two lovely cars there the crown vic seems massive next to Betty
Two of my favourite UA-cam presenters in one video. What's not to like 😄
Two English fellas fawning over yank and Aussie big Ford's not made anymore. This is gold!
Another great video has always Ian and miss hubnut and hublets and hubmutts 👍
Great video and two of my favourite UA-camrs and two of my favourite UA-cam Cars....
This day has been fated to happen for so long - finally it has dawned!
What a very interesting vehicle indeed. Team AUS meets Team USA ! A really enjoyable video well done 👍👍
Team aus all the way
There were a tremendous amount of serving officers that DEEPLY protested the change away from the Crown Victoria as the duty vehicles. Now, they have gone to SUV body frames mostly.I find the Fairmont AU much more exotic, as the N.American Fairmont could hardly get out of their own way, when in production, until 1983, under powered under specified, unless the came with the 5.0 liter engine (standard engine was a 2.3 liter carbonated model) and rusted while you watched.
_(standard engine was a 2.3 liter carbonated model)_
Hmm.
Fizzy.
@@buggs9950 spell check was after carburetors.....
@@MrGaryRoberton Tell me about it. I'm British so we put an extra 'T' in there. Just for fun I suppose.
the US foxbody fairmont was a MUCH smaller car than even the period Aus Fairmont! It was Sierra sized and had the Sierra OHC Pinto engine. Just as slow as a sierra, except the Sierra had even slower models.
I agree with the comment about the column shift. A floor shifter on an automatic car is a bit f a waste of space. I own a 2012 FG Falcon and an American 1972 Lincoln Continental and really like the column shift in the Lincoln.
It's the video I called for! Legends. 👍
Yessss! I've been commenting about this! It was meant to be!
Brilliant, I follow both guys!
I've always wanted an early 80's Lincoln Town Car (the boxiest one), never dared to take the plunge.
That’s a very clean looking CVPI, nice colour too.
One quick visual clue to see if a Crown Vic was originally built to be a taxi is longer rear doors, as they were LWB.
Same with the p71 the tips are black not chrome
There’s a Crown Victoria round the road from us with flood light on the wing mirrors and bull bars on the front!
"So we have been arrested..." 🤣
Two lovely cars and great video 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yes, finally! Great to see you and Betty and Bosch! Very interesting to see the differences and similarities. Did they use the Falcon also as a cop car down under?
Yes they certainly did but six cylinder normally aspirated examples were general duties vehicles. The Highway Patrol used turbo sixes and V8 examples.
Sure did. I've turned my Aussie Falcon into a police divvy build :)
Oh definitely. Up until several years ago, most Australian police force fleets were made up predominantly of Holden Commodores and Ford Falcons
Most have been replaced by Beemers, VW's and Kias nowadays though
Excellent... the ‘Great Barge Off’! 😁
Lake Erie, not Lake Michigan. Which means, even more lake effect snow and road treatment in the winter. At Hopkins airport, in the southwest suburbs of Cleveland, the average is 54 inches a year, but in Beachwood in the eastern suburbs and on higher ground, the average is much higher and on the highest bits of ground in that area norms approach 100 inches a year.
Great content
Ironically this era of Crown Vic wasn't manufactured in the US. Made in St. Thomas Ontario Canada.
That is mentioned in my next video. 😉
I was hoping that you would both collaborate like this!
nice drink holder in the crown Vic! Very ingenious solution. ;-)
More circularity… both Fords delivered to / from different countries from where they were actually made… Canada / USA and Australia / New Zealand.
Betty's front end design is really similar to a MK3 2008 Ford Mondeo and her design predates when Ford designed that generation of Mondeo.
Hubnut and Regular car reviews in the same hour
Similar Taxi story with Falcons in Australia. The go to cars for taxis from about 1975 until production ceased in 2016. Almost always running on LPG and running for well over a million kilometres.
The importance of LPG in Australia to keep running costs down had Ford make factory LPG models for sale to the public as well even with the sporty XR6 models. LPG models now sought after for the stronger connecting rods.
I still drive an AU1 Fairmont wagon on dual fuel. It has 366K on the clock.
Same story in NZ as well - all the taxis were Falcons or Commodores, and almost all of them were LPG or CNG, depending on which island they were sold in. Early 2000's the Holdens went away as taxis and Camrys took over with the Falcons
I have an FG FPV GT Falcon 315.
Nothing to do with the subject……… I just like telling people. Hehe
Two very different cars, but very interested to see how they compare.
My favorite panther platform car is the Lincoln town car. The steering is wonderfully numb. Also check out the vehicle production group mv1. It’s based on a crown Vic chassis.
Fantastic 😎
'Pchwoop pchwoop, it's the sound of law enforcement!' 😊🚓
Couln't help but notice the crown Vic interor light is the same item as an EF/EL Fairmont or and NF/NL Fairlane.
Looking forward Ian. Need your videos to cheer me up as just tested positive for covid
Ah unlucky. So much of it about.
Have a cup of tea with a big drop of Whisky and you'll be fine.
I used to own a 78 chevy caprice when I lived in Scotland and the next owner converted it into a US police car
I'd love to have the LTD Crown Victoria "the brick" Matt was referring to (manufactured from the late 70s to 1991), really love that car, brought a lot of fond memories watching American movies when I was a child in the 80s - must be hard to find now, even in the States.
There are 2 genuine p72 (p71 was Aero style onwards) cop brick style ones of 1991 in the UK. As used on the Blues Brothers 2000 film. If you search for Bluesmobile party then it comes straight up...my old car 🙂
@@pizzalover3 Cheers Thanks 👍 I'll look it up.
The road test I had hoped you would do but never thought it would happen.
BTW, the owner of the Crown Victoria should have narrowed his search to 2003 models, or NEWER. In 2003 the front chassis was strengthened making for a better driving/steering car. Unfortunately, even among the " whales " some years are better than others. If it hasn't been fixed already, this 2001 model has the part plastic intake manifold that eventually leaks. Not that it's needed, but the later (2003 and newer) models have a tachometer.
those old vics were very common here in canada as well as the us. they were made in canada actually, in st thomas, ontario, canada which is about 2 hours east of detroit. not many left now, mostly taxis but the dreaded tin worm is eating them up
This is why I love UA-cam
American Law Enforcement vehicles cruising in the UK...love it! I'm sure the fuel consumption hurts when fuel is roughly £1.47 per liter, give or take, but Crown Vic's ride so well and look cool.
More like £1.60 at the moment!
@@HubNut It's getting on for €1.90 here in Tallinn, really glad I don't drive anymore. Free bus, Trolley, or Tram for me now and has been since 2015 for residents.
@@michaeljones1475 Nice to see governments are screwing their citizens in Europe. In Asia gas is not up.
We have a 2001 Ford Econoline van where I work and the volume knob does the exact same thing it’s so terrible lol
In new Quay but you are not here. Ceredigion and Aberystwyth seem to be Hubnut free today also!😜
Windshield wiper meets tea shelf.
Full size Fords from 1973 were even bigger, but not much more room if any in the inside.
I find these type of cars so much more interesting than modern day motors , however I am picking up my 2018 focus on Friday cant wait , still I want a second car was thinking about a rover 400 or a 75 or maybe a vauxhall cavalier , when I was growing up In the 90s we always had a rover or cavalier as the family car , I know rovers get a bit of abuse but I have a soft spot for them same with the cavalier
Where is the link for squires on Saturday could you post it here please 🙏
The Social? the-motorist.myshopify.com/products/hub-nut-social-at-the-motorist
It's like Batman vs Superman, but much better.
@Jon Tibbatts I'd watch that movie.
Nice 😀
Wondered when you two were going to swap these two big Americans for a drive, lovely to see!
1 AUSTRALIAN ...1 US
Now what we need is a shot of them either side of a 51 plate mondeo....
Was this filmed the same time as the nec trip?
No. We met up on Sunday just gone.
Well researched by FD, interesting.
The inner HubNut Cop has been released, assume the position......
Oh f*** yes!!