Picard & Dathon At El-Adrel

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  • Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e02 · Darmok
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  • @tjwparso
    @tjwparso  2 роки тому +14

    Star Trek · The Next Generation · s05e02 · Darmok
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    'Darmok' Clips:
    Ubaya Of Crossed Roads At Lungha
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    Kiteo. His Eyes Closed.
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    Picard Of The Federation
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    Concentrated In The Upper D Region
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    Temba!
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    His Arms Wide
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    Sokath. His Eyes Uncovered!
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    Juliet On Her Balcony
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    The Beast At Tanagra
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    Gilgamesh, A King, At Uruk.
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    Picard & Dathon At El-Adrel
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    Just For The Hope Of Communication
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  • @Shenruss
    @Shenruss 2 роки тому +413

    This scene was so poignant, it helped me understand that _true_ communication between beings was less about _words_ and more about making _feelings_ and _intentions_ known. A pertinent lesson for an 11 year old boy to remember, and have tried to live by 30 years later.

    • @aggroniq2268
      @aggroniq2268 2 роки тому +10

      ♡❤♡ It's almost the same for me, but I was 12 and it was the rerun at Québec.

    • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
      @ruthlessdraculigula1051 2 роки тому +10

      Alright, I'll make it a trifecta; I was 13 years old. I'll never forget because the original air date was on my birthday. This episode truly made me understand how shared adversity can make friends from peoples of starkly different walks.

    • @Shenruss
      @Shenruss 2 роки тому +7

      @@ruthlessdraculigula1051 Damn, my dudes, seems we ALL hit that age range and absorbed the significance of it, without ever meeting. To think that we all, from different places, cultures, backgrounds and probably ethnicities would understand this message...
      That is MEGA Meta!
      This show _literally_ did it's job and crossed civilizations to bring them all the same message of communication and harmony!
      *How freaking awesome is that?!*

    • @Shenruss
      @Shenruss 2 роки тому +1

      @@aggroniq2268 Was in New York at the time, my dude! 1992 was a good, if trying, year!

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 2 роки тому

      I think I really understood things better when I saw a guy that really wanted a cold 🍺 🍻 beer, but he had no money, and I was 9 years old, and slipped him a twenty when nobody was looking, and I could feel his gratitude.

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 2 роки тому +223

    > People panicking
    > Picard walks in with torn clothes as if that's nothing
    > Starts speaking like those weird aliens
    > Everyone impressed
    > Goes back to his chair like always
    What a boss.

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 Рік тому +13

      I love how everyone on the Enterprise is wondering wtf is going on, then the Tamarian starts speaking angrily, and then Picard goes "TEMARC!!! THE RIVER TEMARC!"
      they must have thought he was out of his mind lol

    • @DarthGTB
      @DarthGTB Рік тому +10

      Directly from the transporter. No medbay stay. Just a boring Thursday.

    • @Verbalaesthet
      @Verbalaesthet Рік тому +14

      @@DarthGTB The moment when finally someone spoke their language was the greatest day of their lives, but for Picard it was Tuesday.

    • @doesitmatter1667
      @doesitmatter1667 7 місяців тому +13

      “Picard, on the bridge, his clothes torn.”

  • @TheZetaKai
    @TheZetaKai 2 роки тому +177

    I like that the monster itself is almost ignored by everyone. "Yeah, there's an interdimensional killing machine down there on that planet, nobody knows why, but it's occasionally useful for bonding rituals." The universe is a strange place.

    • @evm6177
      @evm6177 7 місяців тому +4

      Wait, perfect strangers dropped on a unidentified planet and must fight the beast.. Sounds kinda like the exact plot for 'The Predators' right!?

    • @SuperHongTay
      @SuperHongTay 7 місяців тому +5

      I don’t constantly worry about being attacked by lions in Africa either

    • @kazemizu
      @kazemizu 6 місяців тому +2

      Don't you remember what happened to Enkidu?? Do not kill the beast straight out of mythology

  • @giordanogarduno9207
    @giordanogarduno9207 2 роки тому +160

    So sad for Dathon. He was awesome.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +15

      Paul Winfield played Captain Dathon very well in this episode. One of the finest Trek guest actor ever. RIP.

    • @stantonvalberg9814
      @stantonvalberg9814 2 роки тому +18

      @@LGranthamsHeir he was also Captain Tyrell in The Wrath Of Khan.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 2 роки тому +7

      @@LGranthamsHeir Don't forget. He was captain Tyrell in Startrek II, The Wrath of Khan.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 2 роки тому +1

      @@stantonvalberg9814 👍🖖

    • @justanobadi6655
      @justanobadi6655 Рік тому +5

      Kailash. When it rises.

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 2 роки тому +233

    Man, those tamarian ships would have been useful against the dominion. Taking out a galaxy class shields with one salvo while taking no damage whatsoever.

    • @JamesJ30t
      @JamesJ30t 2 роки тому +27

      @Yaldabaoth -- Yeah that Tamarian ship was bad ass. The Tamarians were probably one of the groups the Dominion made a not aggression pact with.

    • @yaldabaoth2
      @yaldabaoth2 2 роки тому +94

      @@JamesJ30t I would have liked to see Weyoun negotiate that. The founders, their puddle of goo wide.

    • @KenshiImmortalWolf
      @KenshiImmortalWolf 2 роки тому +13

      wouldn't of been surprised if tamarian shield tech was adapted to federation use when they joined.

    • @hunter35474
      @hunter35474 2 роки тому +13

      @@JamesJ30tThe fact that the model builders clearly used part of a (model) Imperial Star Destroyer hull as the Tamarian ship's bow makes it even more bad ass, in my opinion.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 2 роки тому +5

      Yep. The also used that same Tamarian warship model on several DS9 episodes too.

  • @bobpage6597
    @bobpage6597 2 роки тому +144

    "Sokath! His eyes open!" The way the Tamarian delivers this line, and sounds joyous I take his meaning to be something akin to "He understands!!", happy that Picard has a semblance of understanding in how the Tamarians communicate.

    • @j-marie4006
      @j-marie4006 2 роки тому +7

      What he gets told next is not so joyous.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому +3

      Kinda religious-cultish. 'He speaks our history, he is initiated now. We won him over.'
      Nerds. 😆

    • @shep9231
      @shep9231 Рік тому +16

      Even after he had the Enterprise-D dead to rights... he was STILL willing to talk!. THAT is how you know you are dealing with someone who's willing to listen...

    • @manjackson2772
      @manjackson2772 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@shep9231The Tamarians were Picard's equal in their dedication to diplomacy here.

    • @HunhowsShadowStalker
      @HunhowsShadowStalker 7 місяців тому +9

      That is exactly what it means. Their phrases have a very general meaning and require context to make sense.
      "Xinda, his face black, his eyes red" - Anger in battle, pain.
      "The river Temarc, in winter." - Stillness or silence.
      "Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra" - Cooperation between different people.
      "Darmok and Jalad on the ocean" - Two people being stranded together.
      "Sokath, his eyes open." - Understanding.
      "The beast of Tenagra" - A dangerous obstacle.
      "Uzani, his army." - A battle strategy.
      "Shaka, when the walls fell." - Failure.
      "Picard and Dathon, at El-Adrel" - First contact between alien races.
      "Mirab, with sails unfurled" - Travelling.
      "Temba, his arms open." - Offering a gift.
      "Temba, at rest" - Accepting or declining a gift.
      To offer a full translation of the conversation:
      "You have attacked us, and we will fight back if we must!"
      "Quiet! I demand that you be silent!"
      "Did you...?"
      "Cooperate? Yes. We were stranded on the planet below."
      "He understands us!"
      "We faced a powerful foe. We attempted a strategy to defeat it, but your captain died in the attempt."
      "We will remember this first meeting between our people."
      "I'd like you to have his knife back."
      "You may keep it."

  • @Bannor21
    @Bannor21 6 місяців тому +43

    Something I've realized about the Tamarian language is that communicating through metaphor is the same as communicating via meme. Once I realized this I started making up my own Tamarian phrases. A favourite example... Phillip J Fry, his eyes squinted.

    • @SeenAGreatLight
      @SeenAGreatLight 3 місяці тому +8

      Pikachu, his mouth open!
      Boromir, at the Council.
      Leeroy Jenkins, his fist closed!

    • @Whackadoodle357
      @Whackadoodle357 3 місяці тому +6

      @@SeenAGreatLightLeeroy Jenkins, when the walls fell

    • @borntopwnyou
      @borntopwnyou 3 місяці тому +3

      Felix, on the bridge, his lips loose

    • @VonArgylle
      @VonArgylle 2 місяці тому +6

      John Cena, his presence unseen.

    • @zergeistrush460
      @zergeistrush460 2 місяці тому

      Wojack, pointing in awe

  • @jodysmoviesandshowschannel8698
    @jodysmoviesandshowschannel8698 2 роки тому +248

    This really is one of the best episodes.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +8

      One of the best episodes of the entire Star Trek series, not just TNG. Rivaled only with "The Inner Light" (which will be screened later in Season 5)

    • @Bealzbob
      @Bealzbob 2 роки тому +7

      I've watched The Inner Light several times and yet on my most recent viewing it got me like it had never got me before. I must be getting old and soft.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +1

      @@Bealzbob I think we all feel the same after each re-watch. The message that resonates from the episode, like the importance of family & friends, circle of life, and consequences of climate change are all becoming consequential as we get older.

    • @Bealzbob
      @Bealzbob 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed. And it means Star Trek isn't becoming less relevant as we get older. It's becoming more relevant.

    • @zenairzulu1378
      @zenairzulu1378 2 роки тому

      @@Bealzbob this is so true

  • @Bealzbob
    @Bealzbob 2 роки тому +57

    The director has restored power sir.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai 2 роки тому +9

      LOL, I know right. The dramatic climax has passed now; we can have our denouement in standard lighting.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheZetaKai While this is a common film trope, it was so blunt that I assume the Tamarians had some suppression going on, or maybe an energetic boost to compensate for the damage.

  • @drake8050
    @drake8050 2 роки тому +43

    It speaks volumes about this series that the most badass scene of the episode is daddy Picard walking onto the bridge.

    • @YarHarFD
      @YarHarFD Рік тому +3

      Came here to say that. First contact vibes

  • @MasterTalon
    @MasterTalon 2 роки тому +52

    Temba, his beans open.
    This is one of the best examples of Trek. Always loved this episode.

    • @thejukeboxi
      @thejukeboxi 2 роки тому +4

      Shaka, when his beans fell.

  • @chrishestand1
    @chrishestand1 Рік тому +41

    I forgot that he changed the metaphor to Picard and dathan to emphasize the importance of what happened between our two species that day, and now I’m over here trying to choke back tears and stuff. We need more sci-fi like this.

    • @Tosslehoffe
      @Tosslehoffe 10 місяців тому +17

      he didn't change a metaphor, they adopted a new one. "picard and Dathon at el-adrel" just means "successful first contact"
      something the Tamarians had not managed prior to that point

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 7 місяців тому +9

      @@Tosslehoffe I always took it to mean that Picard and Dathon's story had become part of their legendarium, that those two were now regarded in the same way that Sokath and Temba were.

  • @Gustavo-The-Great
    @Gustavo-The-Great 2 роки тому +17

    Picard is such a statesman.

  • @stormthrush37
    @stormthrush37 Рік тому +13

    I always had trouble keeping up with Picard's exchange with the Tamarian First Officer starting at 2:52. For anyone else that had a problem with it here's a rough translation (this should at least be in the ballpark):
    Tamarian First Officer: We're very angry at you!
    Picard: We seek to stop fighting! We want peace. (???)
    TFO: What happened down on the planet?
    Picard: Your Captain and I stood together against the beast down on the planet.
    TFO: He understands our language now!
    Picard: We fought the beast together, we had a plan to be him...but we failed. Your captain is dead.
    TFO: (Expresses sorrow/ritualistic honor gestures along with other Tamarian crew)
    Picard: I offer you your Captain's book.
    TFO: (signals to crewman to beam it over)
    TFO: Picard and Dathon at El-Adrel fighting together against a terrible beast, finding common ground, and humans and Tamarians finally being able to communicate for the first time; we will remember this day in our legends. (Turns to crew) Alright, it's time to go.
    Picard: I offer the Captain's knife that he gave me to fight the beast with.
    TFO: No, you keep it.
    (Power comes back on on Enterprise)
    TFO: (Motions to close channel, channel closes)

    • @mastershredder2002
      @mastershredder2002 6 місяців тому +1

      Picard just killed the captain and took his book and knife.

  • @ultramaximusreviews
    @ultramaximusreviews 2 роки тому +119

    I remember when this 1st aired. My late father was very intrigued by this race & speculated they would become a bigger part in the show. Even though they didn't, when one made an appearance on Lower Decks it made me think of him. Every time I see this episode it makes me think of him. It's also the 1st time we see the Captain's jacket but the last time it had leather shoulders - the remainder of the times we see it has wool shoulders. The whole point of the jacket was Patrick Stewart wanted a more comfortable uniform he could take on and off easily when he got too hot.

    • @RevanHorner
      @RevanHorner 2 роки тому +1

      Hey, that's beautiful

    • @zagnorch1336
      @zagnorch1336 2 роки тому +7

      Picard's very first Playmates action figure sported that jacket and shirt... only without the midriff rip.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 2 роки тому +4

      It would have been great if they gave this race/speices more attention on TNG (or DS9).

    • @chrishestand1
      @chrishestand1 Рік тому +1

      It’s weird about losing your dad, isn’t it? The things he loved suddenly make a bigger impact on you. Couldn’t stand half of my dad’s favorite music until I lost him, and now most of that is in my own most favorite songs. I’m glad this stuck out to you and him. I feel like little things from your memories of what impacted him end up impacting you. I try to stress this to my kids once in a while, so maybe this thing I say might be helpful if I say it here? “When you lose someone you love, the most important thing is to remember the good things they taught you, and live the lessons you learned. Eventually you’ll pass those same lessons on to another, and maybe one day they’ll do the same. In this way, the best parts of that person you loved will live on forever. Do this, and not only will you ensure that their life wasn’t wasted, but also your own.”

  • @markmaz56
    @markmaz56 2 роки тому +32

    Not only one of the best Star Trek episodes, but one of the best examples of what makes science fiction great!

  • @BrendanBlake42
    @BrendanBlake42 2 роки тому +9

    His beans, the can open

  • @MichaelRobertHart
    @MichaelRobertHart Рік тому +7

    In the first conversation with the Tamarians, it’s nonsensical.
    By this conversation, you can follow the entire exchange.
    Beautiful

  • @taopilot2669
    @taopilot2669 2 роки тому +33

    "Stand by to fire, Mr. Worf."
    "I'm always ready to fire, you know that, sir."

    • @TheEDFLegacy
      @TheEDFLegacy 2 роки тому +1

      _Oh my_

    • @epiendless1128
      @epiendless1128 2 роки тому +2

      Stargate:
      Jackson: Uh, you should probably prepare to return fire.
      Marks: For the record, I'm always prepared. I just have to press this button here.
      (Marks points at a big red button on his console.)
      Jackson: Right… I just - I thought that's what you're supposed to say, so…
      Marks: I know.

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +83

    Putting Riker and Worf in charge of the Enterprise in a tense diplomatic situation only results in more conflict with the Tamarians because of their tendencies to use aggressive, war-like tactics. It's good that the philosopher-captain Picard was able to come in time and use his newly acquired knowledge about the Tamarian language to cool down the situation.

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 2 роки тому +3

      I couldn't possibly agree more.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Рік тому

      So you're ignoring Riker making communication attempts earlier in the episode and being ignored by the Tamarians?

    • @arthurjamesbouie7053
      @arthurjamesbouie7053 8 місяців тому +2

      @zerrodefex...Riker had no clue what they were saying to him and definitely the Tamarians hadn't mastered the English language. Knowing "Tamok and Gilead on the ocean" might have helped Riker.

  • @ReganSpor
    @ReganSpor 2 роки тому +46

    This has to be one of my favourite stand alone episodes.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +5

      One of the best episodes of the entire Star Trek series, not just TNG. Rivaled only with "The Inner Light" (which will be screened later in Season 5)

    • @jacksonheathen2092
      @jacksonheathen2092 2 роки тому +2

      @@LGranthamsHeir I'll give you that. The inner light was another good stand alone episode.

    • @armand531
      @armand531 Рік тому +1

      @@LGranthamsHeir 100% agree Darmok and The Inner light are both in my top 5 TNG epsidoes.

  • @rahn45
    @rahn45 2 роки тому +59

    Beans... fully baked.

    • @AvengerBB1
      @AvengerBB1 2 роки тому +8

      Beans, the can empty. :(

    • @david2869
      @david2869 2 роки тому +2

      Beans, all over the floor!

    • @slinkerdeer
      @slinkerdeer 2 роки тому +7

      Shaka, when the can opener failed

    • @stevenshewfelt888
      @stevenshewfelt888 2 роки тому +3

      Picard and Daithon at the campsite............*loud farting*

    • @alangumbel7514
      @alangumbel7514 2 роки тому +1

      @@stevenshewfelt888 want some more beans Mr. Taggart? No i think you fellas have had enough!

  • @spiv
    @spiv Рік тому +6

    my anthro teacher had the class watch this episode in class when we were discussing language. everyone was like "oh this is interesting" and im in the back like "watch this part lol"

  • @YD-uq5fi
    @YD-uq5fi 2 роки тому +23

    I still can't believe such an intelligent episode of television was ever created.
    In college (which was around the time this episode first aired) me and 3 of my friends who were fanatically into TNG at the time used these various phrases in our own conversations when applicable. 'Shaka when the walls fell!' was the most oft-used. But various uses of 'X and Y at Tanagrah' and 'on the ocean' were often used as well. Reciting 'Gilgamesh, a king', was a frequent ritual.

  • @ohkaygoplay
    @ohkaygoplay 2 роки тому +38

    We need more people like Picard in this world.

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 2 роки тому +6

      @DriftZ TwoSeven There is one Race, the Human Race, I hope to see Doctor Martin Luther King's vision become reality.

    • @carminemurray6624
      @carminemurray6624 2 роки тому +3

      @DriftZ TwoSeven
      Yeah, help keep Racism alive and well.
      I am from a multi ethnic multicultural family, and we have all colours, and I never divided my family by race or skin colour.
      Let us hate our tiny differences, especially anyone LGBTQI, HOW DARE THEY LOVE EACH OTHER !
      But is is fine & Dandy to blow people up, just never let two men or two women fall in 🥰 love, but they can kill each other in an approved War.
      DriftZ is obviously a Bigot.
      Racial genetics, Racial Culture, Racial thought processes.
      The Manifesto of Racists.

    • @krioni86sa
      @krioni86sa 2 роки тому

      @@carminemurray6624 he is a bigot, i agree. he ia dumb and a racist.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Рік тому

      ​@@carminemurray6624 you first say that there's only one race then talk about multiple races, try to keep your strawmen consistent at least race hustler.

    • @marcmarparran7753
      @marcmarparran7753 7 місяців тому

      Trump, tomato sauce plates smashed against the wall. Biden, inflation reduced. 💙

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines 2 роки тому +13

    Picard and Jalad..at Tanagra..at El a Dril...the River Tamak...

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +4

      Temba, his arms open...Temba, at rest.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai 2 роки тому +2

      Sokath, his eyes open!

  • @gaarathesandslayer
    @gaarathesandslayer 2 роки тому +5

    Star Trek, it's franchise paid, it's fanbase on the ocean
    Tjwparso, his uploads
    Tjwparso, his fanbase singing
    Tjwparso and his fanbase, on the ocean.

  • @ScottALaFollette
    @ScottALaFollette 2 роки тому +6

    “…. his eyes open….”.
    The ultimate commitment/sacrifice towards simple communication.
    Wishing world leaders shared the same determination. ✨ 🦻✌🏻🌟…..

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos 2 роки тому +5

    That captains jacket was cool

  • @mistermeow527
    @mistermeow527 2 роки тому +38

    Fantastic episode. It's not just about the novelty (nor the workabilty) of a race that speaks in metaphors but in the mutual desire to find the commonality between the two cultures with seemingly little in common.

    • @absue
      @absue 2 роки тому +2

      @DriftZ TwoSeven It's possible only for individuals such as Picard and Dathon. They do exist on Earth, just not in large numbers.

    • @g33dav3y
      @g33dav3y 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah that's the bees' knees. We should all meet on the gridiron and settle it Mano a Mano.

  • @filovirus1
    @filovirus1 2 роки тому +10

    everytime I watch this episode I cry. the desperation to communicate, the deadly risk, friendship, the sacrifice. it's a deep love story in a single episode. crying again today.

  • @Spacegoat92
    @Spacegoat92 2 роки тому +3

    I'm glad they corrected the phasers firing from the torpedo launcher. Now we can move forward as a species...

  • @ArK047
    @ArK047 2 роки тому +6

    In a way, a close group of friends speak in a similar manner sometimes. If I told the internet, "John's gloves in the garage. Greg's rough day at work. Steve forgot his umbrella." it would probably not make much sense, or at least not the sort of sense I meant. But if I said this to my friends, they'd pretty quickly get that someone got drunk, fell in a creek, and got sick from being soaked. And yes, it's difficult when there's an activity with friends of friends because those outside the group have no idea what we're talking about.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex Рік тому +1

      Look at how we communicate with memes in words and images, it's no different than this situation.

  • @Psiros
    @Psiros 2 роки тому +11

    Always wondered why Riker called Red Alert after the fact they initiated combat.

  • @aggressiveattitudeera887
    @aggressiveattitudeera887 2 роки тому +10

    Sure could've used those guys help during The Dominion War.

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +3

      I know. It's sad the Tamarians were never seen and mentioned again in TNG and other 'classic-Trek' series. With their firepower, they would've easily beaten the Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, and Romulans w/no problem. Only recently in the "Lower Deck" series we got another Tamarian character appeared - assuming you accept "Lower Deck" as part of the 'classic-Trek' canon, that is.

  • @trickydicky2908
    @trickydicky2908 2 роки тому +3

    Love Picard's jacket.

  • @jayo_z
    @jayo_z 2 роки тому +14

    This is probably my favorite single TNG scene. Thanks for uploading.

  • @batgurrl
    @batgurrl 2 місяці тому

    One of the very best episodes. I love the way Data tries to see how anyone else on the bridge is responding

  • @martinhavelock5106
    @martinhavelock5106 2 роки тому +34

    Why can't we have Star Trek written like this again?

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +5

      Most TNG- writers & producers have moved on to other sci-fi series - Ron Moore to BSG, Brannon Braga & Andre Bormanis to "The Orville," etc. Most writers recruited as part of 'Kurtzman-Trek' are not veterans of TNG and other 1980s-90s Trek series, hence you see the difference in how the Trek-verse was projected in the 'classic/Roddenberry-influenced' and 'Kurtzman' era easily :(

    • @Nizzet
      @Nizzet 2 роки тому +9

      Because most mainstream entertainment in the US right now is made for children by those with the mentality of children.

    • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
      @ruthlessdraculigula1051 2 роки тому +1

      @@Nizzet Spot on, Mr. Wolfe. Spot on.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai 2 роки тому +7

      Short answer: Because those in charge don't want to do so. They make money and project their chosen message without this kind of writing and acting. They don't care if you don't like it.

    • @wagnerthomas6780
      @wagnerthomas6780 2 роки тому +7

      Star trek Picard when the walls fell

  • @Mogget01
    @Mogget01 2 роки тому +7

    What an amazing scene, the writer(s) of this episode are waaaaay under appreciated.

  • @DarthDregan
    @DarthDregan 2 роки тому +2

    “Picard and Dathon at El-adrel” = Understanding.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому

      They already got one for that, the 'his eyes open' line. There would likely be a unique property assigned to it. As we have several words for almost but not exactly the same thing.
      No two encounters are identical, and by acknowledging the differences that make them unique, a new way of thinking is created.

  • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
    @ruthlessdraculigula1051 2 роки тому +5

    One of my all-time favorite episodes.

  • @warrenjones7395
    @warrenjones7395 7 місяців тому +1

    This episode made me cry.
    Peace, communication and understanding. What this world sorely needs.

  • @00z3r0
    @00z3r0 2 роки тому +4

    Phasers, their positions fixed. Trekkies, their sanity saved.

  • @retroelectrical
    @retroelectrical 2 роки тому +14

    Ya know, I've always wondered how in Star Trek they can get a lock on something and beam it. I can understand beaming life forms, that's easy. But to essentially "snipe" beam something out of someone's hand on another ship, is an entirely different story. :)

    • @david2869
      @david2869 2 роки тому +4

      It's the scanners that make it possible. Being able to scan and record something that thoroughly is the real wonder. "Beaming" is just the destruction and re-creation of the object.

    • @TheZetaKai
      @TheZetaKai 2 роки тому +3

      Just don't take the hand with it.

    • @S31Syntax
      @S31Syntax 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheZetaKai ouch my fingernails got beamed

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому +1

      Why? Seems like merely a little more focus. It's actually strange if Federation beaming cannot do that. Considering what fancy things they can do with their filters and buffers and all.

  • @Nebagram
    @Nebagram 2 роки тому +11

    Still one of the best ever episodes of Trek, and I'll give Lower Decks all the credit it deserves and then some for showing that Dathon's sacrifice was not in vain. :-)

    • @armand531
      @armand531 Рік тому

      I've never seen lower decks. Did they do a follow episode with the Tamrians?

    • @greatgoldino
      @greatgoldino Рік тому +2

      @@armand531 In Season 2 the new security chief is a Tamarian, he’s a recurring character from then on. They even managed to fully translate everything. Kayshon is a fun addition to the cast

  • @stars9084
    @stars9084 2 роки тому +8

    You know watching this for the umpteenth time I'm only just now realizing the way the first officer reacted to the Captain's log might give us a clue about how they communicated. He looked at it and recited the title of a new story. Maybe that was the significance of Dathon's log. All their stories and maybe all their complex communication is written. They use titles, settings, and characters as shorthand

    • @thething1710
      @thething1710 2 роки тому +2

      Yep, and that both Dathon and Picard will always be part of the Tamarian's language now, as an example of what happened in their situation.

  • @guitarvocs
    @guitarvocs 2 місяці тому

    I watched this the night it was broadcast. I cried like a baby at the end. This is the perfection of science fiction.

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir 2 роки тому +15

    "Star Trek TNG: Darmok" or for Captain Picard: "The one where I learn to communicate with a meme-speaking alien race!!"

  • @jamesmnguyen
    @jamesmnguyen 2 місяці тому

    I love how the viewer also gained enough knowledge to understand basically all the dialogue after Picard gets beamed back up.

  • @kasbakgaming
    @kasbakgaming 6 місяців тому

    This episode and the Tamarian's language always fascinates me when looking at our own society and how we communicate, particularly now when we use memes and references to popular media so often.

  • @Cortexion
    @Cortexion 2 роки тому +5

    Beans & toast. For dinner.

    • @david2869
      @david2869 2 роки тому +1

      Temba, his belly full!

  • @Michael-kx2bn
    @Michael-kx2bn 2 роки тому +3

    The writers out did themselves on this one! They were smart and creative on this episode. What a different spin on communication.

  • @mflinch6061
    @mflinch6061 2 роки тому +7

    Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive...

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому

      😄 I was thinking about jive at the beginning of the episode. It may help to get a better understanding of the Tamarians.

  • @markhine3232
    @markhine3232 2 роки тому +2

    I love this episode. Thesacrifice for mere communication. This is probably my fave of the series. The end sequence was especially enjoyable. Thanks for the post.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому +2

      The key is that it was not 'mere' communication. The Tamarians were demonstrating the essence of their value system.
      Basically, as one likely aspect: _Don't tell me, show me. ... I want to know whether we can work together, so we have to try to work together._

  • @dahlesa
    @dahlesa 2 роки тому +2

    Sometimes it needs dire situation before one understands another....

  • @thefurrybastard1964
    @thefurrybastard1964 2 роки тому +2

    One of the best TNG Episodes with a quite alien mindset in it.

  • @Jason.W.
    @Jason.W. 2 роки тому +3

    I’d love to have seen more of this race.

  • @Mmouse_
    @Mmouse_ 2 роки тому +3

    Weird language... And yet, the nod at the end... The nod, is universal.

  • @randomname1251
    @randomname1251 6 місяців тому +1

    This scene still gives me chills. A truly magnificent episode

  • @Kazedor
    @Kazedor 2 роки тому +1

    I've been wanting to see this scene again for so long but I couldn't remember the vernacular. Thanks for uploading.

  • @j-marie4006
    @j-marie4006 2 роки тому +3

    When they mourn their captain's death....so sad

  • @CombatIneffective
    @CombatIneffective 2 роки тому +2

    I always loved this scene. So amazingly done. It made you feel like you were actually there and this was important to have happen. The reactions and emotional connection was incredible.

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich 10 місяців тому +2

    And now thanks to Dathon's sacrifice, Kayshon became a Starfleet officer.

  • @andyh4518
    @andyh4518 2 роки тому +1

    Kind of slow on the red alert there Riker. I'm sure all of the civilians appreciated the unexpected shaking.

  • @awesomemccoolname7111
    @awesomemccoolname7111 Рік тому

    The TV, it's lights bright. Our childhood, when Star Trek was on.

  • @Verbalaesthet
    @Verbalaesthet 2 роки тому +2

    I always come back to watch this episode. It's so magical.

  • @slobodatom96
    @slobodatom96 2 роки тому +1

    The episode that taught me the epic of Gilgamesh and Enkedu

  • @sonicguyver7445
    @sonicguyver7445 2 роки тому +1

    Daemok at Tanagra! The beans are open!

  • @TheFlyingHeart
    @TheFlyingHeart 7 місяців тому

    If you are in LA, you can go to the spot where this was filmed.
    It’s in Bronson Canyon, around the corner from the mining pit that has the Batcave.
    A zillion films and tv shows have filmed there. Even episodes of TJ Hooker with William Shatner.
    At 1:10 when the creature blinks into sight, on the left, way back is a big green hill. That hill, has the Hollywood Sign on it. They cropped the shot , just to the right of the sign. Behind Picard, over the hill, is all of LA, right there.
    I’d say it was filmed in the summer. Because all of those plants on the ground are dead and dried up. In the spring, they are green , and have little yellow flowers on top.

  • @KeysofIDproductions
    @KeysofIDproductions 6 місяців тому

    I know episodes like Best of Both Worlds and The Inner Light are quintessential GOATs of Star Trek TNG, but Darmok I believe is what truly defines the core meaning behind Star Trek itself. Seeking out new life and civilizations (encountering an alien species with a language they couldn't understand), and boldly going where no one has gone before (going beyond to understand that species and become their allies).

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim
    @Just_Call_Me_Tim 6 місяців тому

    This gives me chills. And now, to bed.

  • @WessyD123
    @WessyD123 6 місяців тому +1

    i remember the phaser blasts coming out of the forward torpedo launcher in the original of this scene, they must of fixed it for the bluray release..

  • @jean-louislalonde6070
    @jean-louislalonde6070 7 днів тому

    Poetry in outer space. Riiight...

  • @adammullarkey4996
    @adammullarkey4996 Рік тому

    "O'Brien, transport me to the bridge immediately!" Potential lives lost by not giving that order.

  • @paulzy5192
    @paulzy5192 2 роки тому +1

    Nice jacket!!👍

  • @edeancozzens3833
    @edeancozzens3833 4 місяці тому

    Watching this helps me understand the communications from the Creator in the Bible. Similar methods are used there. Stories of how various people in the past related and had experiences with the Creator and with one another helps us understand concepts of al kinds of topics. David and Goliath for example, or the Prodigal Son in the New Testament, teach a whole host of lessons told in life-story forms.

  • @Brew78
    @Brew78 2 роки тому +3

    I just.. I gotta know, where'd the notepad come from? He certainly wasn't holding it during battle, and it's not like a big metal square would fit in a pocket, even if those suits *have* pockets.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому +1

      It was flat enough that we can assume he put it in/under his jacket.
      In fact, that might be a or one reason why they let him wear that jacket for this episode.
      It is also odd how he would suddenly start wearing it during his captain duties and then happen to get beamed down on a planet for days and coerced into survival mode.

  • @Bladewolf3000
    @Bladewolf3000 2 роки тому +1

    I am a huge Star Trek fan this is the one episode that made my brain hurt after watching it trying to figure out what they were talking about until the end when it finally cleared up but it was really hard to understand but it was an awesome episode

  • @wristdisabledwriter2893
    @wristdisabledwriter2893 2 роки тому +1

    What a way to tell someone someone died

  • @yrysroda8592
    @yrysroda8592 6 місяців тому

    Single best scene in the entire franchise (comoing from a VOY/B'Elanna fan)

  • @shaundis2117
    @shaundis2117 2 роки тому +3

    corrected phaser fire . the original drove me ape shit .

    • @momokochama1844
      @momokochama1844 2 роки тому +2

      well, in the original Geordi sent an ensign with a handphaser into the torpedo tube because he couldn't get the phaserbanks online xD

  • @thomasrinneberg7012
    @thomasrinneberg7012 2 роки тому +3

    I wonder how this language could work. If I'd say "Christ on the height of Golgotha" you'd probably understand that I want to say "Sacrifice". Or maybe "Torture"? In any way you understand because you know the story. But how would you learn about the story in the first place as a child, if you have no words to tell it other than via references to even earlier stories, which you can't tell because you have no words other than even... you get the point.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 2 роки тому +1

      Haha, dude, that was the whole point of this story.
      ...
      You learn through experience! You are being shown. - I imagine a very ritualistic society, with strong effort at preservation. (Which we have, too, though, but through other means.)
      How do you teach warp engineering if you only have historical metaphors? ... Less talk, more action. 😉 They talk *after* they act.

    • @TheWPhilosopher
      @TheWPhilosopher 5 місяців тому

      The reverse of us. We learn short phrases as kids. The Cat sat on the mat. (Could mean to rest also) then get more verbose. I'd imagine kids in Tamarian get read the story of Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra to understand the meaning of the phrase. It's not just metaphor but also idioms. Like kill two birds with one stone doesn't literally mean to go and kill two birds but it means to achieve two goals with one action.

  • @HellOnWheel
    @HellOnWheel 10 місяців тому +1

    For a while I tried using "Shaka, when the walls fell" as a cuss whenever I messed something up or like stubbed my toe or something. But no one around me would get the reference, so I stopped using it. I guess that's the appropriate result of speaking Tamarian.

  • @Paradox3713
    @Paradox3713 11 місяців тому +1

    Picard reporting the loss of their captain...a friend, still chokes me up.

  • @BooN877
    @BooN877 7 місяців тому

    The creature will never hurt anyone again because Mike has his head

  • @Grahf0
    @Grahf0 2 роки тому +2

    The acting captain of the other vessel better have gone on to do great things in any other fiction he appeared in.
    He literally was surprise-attacked by the the USS Enterprise and her FULL CREW, save for Picard himself, and he could have easily destroyed them if Picard hadn't arrived.
    Even Picard would think that his command of the ship during that crisis was commendable.

    • @JnEricsonx
      @JnEricsonx 2 роки тому +1

      Even funnier when you realize the original captain is Paul Winfield from Wrath of Khan.

  • @Dowlphin
    @Dowlphin 2 роки тому

    Bruce and student, his kick in the dragon's garden.

  • @randomrazr
    @randomrazr 2 роки тому +4

    wait did they fix the short scene of phasers coming out of the torpedo launcher ??????

    • @Nizzet
      @Nizzet 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, they fixed that when they updated the special effects for the HD release. I noticed that too.

    • @randomrazr
      @randomrazr 2 роки тому

      @@Nizzet they could have put more effort in showing the phase pulse goig around before it fires if i made sense

  • @obied1182
    @obied1182 22 дні тому

    The fact that Dathon actor was on the original star trek series

  • @humphreyjames6252
    @humphreyjames6252 2 роки тому

    one of my favorites 😀

  • @sluggo9687
    @sluggo9687 Рік тому +1

    Powerful

  • @tubenachos
    @tubenachos Рік тому

    Picard's uniform is awesome 👌

  • @Dowlphin
    @Dowlphin 2 роки тому

    They are matching their maneuvers? Yeah, I guess the Enterprise was flying at 0% impulse and the Tamarians did the same. No wonder they can keep up.
    What I find a bit strange is that they would still want to maintain their suppression field after their captain has died, almost as if they wanted Picard to either kill it or be killed, too. ... Maybe as a kind of pact of equals? Diplomatic negotiation where you are willing to die for the other and expect the same in return to have good relations?
    But then it was strongly indicated that they actually didn't know. ... What orders did they have? I wonder. How else was this gonna end?
    Generally this appears to be a diplomacy that doesn't value words much, but wants to know truth through testing someone, to show when someone is serious.
    It is really beautiful how they included Picard in their history. And that can also be seen as a first big stepping stone for understanding their ways.

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ 2 роки тому +3

    VERY interesting race. Damn shame they never reappeared.

    • @reddyredwolf3931
      @reddyredwolf3931 2 роки тому +3

      Actually a new character in Star Trek Lower Decks Season 2 is one.

  • @mistermonologue2442
    @mistermonologue2442 Рік тому +1

    "New friends?"
    " I don't know...but at least they're not new enemies"
    Lmaoo the poor federation just wants all the friends but everyone's so hostile that this is the best they can hope for.

  • @shawnbates1804
    @shawnbates1804 2 роки тому +2

    Made a special ceramjc mixed media piece honoring this episode. If you would like to see a picture of it let me know.

    • @ruthlessdraculigula1051
      @ruthlessdraculigula1051 2 роки тому

      Really? That's very cool. I'd like to see it; where'd you upload the image?

    • @shawnbates1804
      @shawnbates1804 2 роки тому

      @@ruthlessdraculigula1051 i can email it to you

  • @gmughadam76
    @gmughadam76 4 місяці тому

    I know it was a technical error on the part of the studio but in the original scene, firing the phasers from the photon torpedo bay looked way cooler and more powerful...

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire 2 роки тому +1

    A cloaking Tricerotaur, hell of an enemy creature.

    • @HelenaRG71
      @HelenaRG71 2 роки тому

      Maybe the founders use some of its genom for the Jem-Hadar... who knows...