Vocal Coach Reacts to Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session)
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It is not just raw talent. She has spoken about how she learned to growl. Her inspiration came from a band called Otep. She said her first growls were at passing cars or in a pillow and how she hated that her growl sounded too female. It took her years to learn how to do that.
She practise for 15 years to both sing and growl like this....it's not the same being in a band just growling or just singing but doing both like she does takes aloot of practise and of course talent
I'll just leave it here
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Girl I was in the tub and the second she started growling I got out and prayed! Lol that was scary!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫣
Watching people react to Pisces is my new hobby now.
I think 90% of the people watching reacts to Pisces can totally relate.
I love sharing it with people that haven't ever heard of them.
Yep
Yup
Me too. I'm onto the.... 10th? person at least
Pisces - two fishes, two of opposite - "One brings life, Another runs for death"
She has two voices, opposite as well.
poluchka DI in other words they are they real Gemini’s that the one where it’s supposedly two different people in one right?
@@fuzzyfallthetempest No Gemini are twins, they are aligned with each other, Pisces is more the western Yin/Yang.
don't need to tel mee that poluchka , i am of the star sign Pisces.. and yes we DO have 2 faces .... we can be very nice ... but dont piss us off because we can also be VERY mean.
Man! That's an amazing way to see it!.
Really good point. Thanks for making me realize that.
"Art should disturb the comfortable & comfort the disturbed"
You are not getting enough credit for this comment, keeping that quote.
@@wydellarmstrong9964 it's one of my favorites :) happy you like it.
Who's quote is this? It's a great one!
@@MikaTarkela Cesar A. Cruz
Being that this song comforted me speaks of my psyche.
Jinjer is the band name, the lady is called Tatiana XD
Ok Thanks!!
From Ukraine.....
It's just Tatiana not Tatiana XD I dont know where you got that from.
Mike Morgan 😬 i dont know what to say to u
This is what happens when you listen to soooo much pop
Her: You guys should have warned me.
Me: now where's the fun in that?
She doesn't youtube enough
Death is such a flirt
I was going to upvote, but the count is at 666 which is pretty fitting tbh
yepp
🤣
Ha. Warn you? The whole purpose of recommending this video was always to see the look of shock/horror on your face! Mission accomplished.
It's almost an internet ritual to recommend this to vocal coaches on youtube at this point.
@@Gearbhall LOL. The Wise Requesters nod solemly in Unison. "Tara Hath Come to the Thrice Score and Seventh Reaction. It is agreed, she is ready. She must now go forth and Face her next Trial. RELEASE THE TATIANA!!!!"
First you prep them up by making them react to Disturbed - The Sound of Silence, and then you bitchslap them with Jinjer - Pisces. Well done boys!
Absolutely 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Now it's time for Nightwish, then maybe some Dio, Maiden or Judas Priest
Vocal coach: "I've never heard this band before..."
Me: oh, this poor girl has no idea what's about to happen...
I choked on my coffee when I heard her I was so startled lol
She's not evil, she's ANGRY!
"She's either possessed or, super super talented."
She's both. She's possessed with talent.
She's both, plus she has 2 vocal growl tracks superposed to add that depth. Her growl is still amazing, but this is not what she actually sounds like.
@@Theodolphe that is actually very close to what she sounds like, I have seen them live on two different occasions. She sounds just as good live as she does in the video.
talent isn't real, hard work and dedication to do what you love is
@@deminybs "Natural aptitude or skill." Talent is very real. Some people do excel in ways that others cannot, and ultimately, with a little luck, become very successful. Athleticism is literally evident in your most successful athletes. This isn't to say that "Hard work," (which in and of itself is exceedingly subjective) or persistence and continued practice, isn't required in order to hone or maintain a specific skill set. This also does not negate outliers who defy the odds and are able to overcome deficiencies that would otherwise prove natural inhibitors to specific goals. Simply put, I disagree, and stand by my original statement that Tatiana does indeed have talent.
Stale Chips possessed with talent 🤔
"Where is the notice?"
When the guitar distortion kicks on.
She might understand vocals but she definitely doesn’t understand metal. She’s never heard of Archenemy or Otep?
Honestly 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 facts
Hahaa
@Mark Mathis yep. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I think she's a classically trained singer, so i.e. probably opera / very uninformed about genres with harsh vocals
Needless to say with her being a classically trained singer, props for her tho to making this a teaching experience and not just throwing shade
0:00 Me: She is not ready for what is coming
1:30 Kevin Hart, on a stage somewhere "SHE WASNT READY"
😂🤣😂
No she is not ready for this:
Rage of Light
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This:
Seven Spires
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or This:
The Agonist
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@@Tarasimonstudios the distortion from the electric guitar was the clue you were looking for by the way!
🤣🤣🤣
The Siren's Song lures you in... then out comes the Succubus.
"she sounds really beautiful...uh at the beginning of the song" LOL she sounds beautiful through the ENTIRE song. This song gives me chills every time I hear it. Lyrics are pretty powerful as well.
Katy perry: You’re gonna hear me roar
Napalm records: Hold my beer
😂😂😂😂
lmao yes!
Lol Katy Perry
Ryder Soul 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Female metal vocalists that can growl/scream aren't that rare, but, Tatiana's growls are SO low, and, her cleans are so beautiful. She's a rare talent, and, of course, the rest of the band are AMAZING!
Look up the band Aephanemer. For the longest time, I thought the vocalist was a male. But after seeing a music video for them, I was shocked when I saw a female growling like that. Great band
Female vocalists who can pull of a vocal fry like that are insanely rare.
Entheos (Chaney Crabb)
Couldn't have said it better myself!
It also has to do with her inner facial structure and her sinus cavities to be able to produce such a low gutteral
I feel I need to correct Tara here! Actually vocal fry the vocal cords do NOT connect which is why, if done correctly, it doesn't destroy your voice. Using proper vocal fry you should need no rest, false cord screamers may need rest but vocal fry done right is almost 100% safe! A University study was done using a laryngoscope to see why metal singers don't destroy their voice over time doing this. They found the 'vocal folds' do NOT slap together, or make contact in any way, which is why it doesn't cause damage when done correctly! False chord 'screaming' on the other hand is usually very destructive over time! The vocal fry is an open articulation which is why it produces lower notes whereas false cord is a constricted articulation which is why it produces higher notes!
Good explanation my friend. You are also not projecting from your throat, your air should come your chest. It can mess up your voice if you project straight from your throat.
@@justinrennick9503 Exactly because the only way to project from the throat, which the huge majority of false chord screamers do everything constricts onto itself and as the air flaps the constricted vocal cords they slap against each other causing swelling and leads to likely formation of nodules and/or scar tissue (can't think of his name- the guy from The Used destroys his throat)! It can also, over time, cause paralysis of vocal cords. Fry vocals are always misrepresented as screamers, they are not!
False chord=screamer
Fry vocal=geowler
@@justinrennick9503 Dr. Izdebski goes on to explain that by using a very, very high-speed camera (16,000 frames per second - by way of contrast, note that a movie is traditionally only 24 frames per second) placed inside a singer’s throat, he was able to determine that the vocal cords of your average metal frontman or woman never collide, which is how damage to those cords is normally created:
“The images that we recorded clearly show that it’s produced predominately, predominately by structures above the glottis. So, the vocal folds do open and vibrate but actually don’t collide, and the entire sick area above - aryepiglottic folds, arachnoids, epiglottis - everything claps and dances, basically, and creates vibrations and creates acoustic orchestration… It’s that the area above [that’s] very loose and the air turbulence that comes through. The air that comes through produces turbulence, and the turbulence produces the sound.”
@@Axe_Slinger Very informative. Thank you for sharing
Great info
No dear Tara, this is not produced by exaggerated fry. That would be very unhealthy indeed and while it can be done and it is done, it appears only sparsely for coloring, in no case as a permanent technique. This is done by completely opening up the larynx, pushing it way down, then adding a serious amount of pressure from the diaphragm while in the same time closing the false vocal cords. And of course it takes practice.
My false chords pretty all come from the diaphragm. I can make myself lightheaded if I do it hard enough but my throat feels none of it
Jinjer fans will never warn you about the bipolar singing... we want a raw honest reaction
Yep
Yep
And it never dissapoints xD
It's like when you first show someone Opeth
It sometimes happens, but it doesn't matter. Nobody expects Tati's growls. Check out Cosmic Eye's reaction to this.
“It’s like she becomes evil, and now she’s beautiful again.”
Yes that’s the point. The concept of duality has always been in metal.
Kinda makes you wanna push your fingers into your eyes, amirite?
Alex Smith i don’t get it
@@wesleymiller4159 duality is a famous song by slipknot. Check the lyrics )
Well said
Why most metal-heads also love classical
Love how she is a “vocal coach” and doesn’t know that metal vocalist when screaming actually don’t hurt their voice. If done correctly it does not hurt at all
That was awesome. She was scrambling to find a way to explain what she couldn't explain. 👍
@@dougarnold7955 much like a pisces ♓️
@@esoterica412 👋😁 ...thanks for the reply.
Is Tara a Pisces too?
@@dougarnold7955 i don’t know actually lol. What i meant was that a lot of people try to understand that pisces energy, as i have heavy pisces energy within me as well. And it is considered the most confusing and dual sign. Because the symbol for pisces are the two fishes going in opposite directions. Yin/yang, light and dark, masculine/feminine. Tatiana the singer is actually a Pisces as well. And the fact that she sings softly and relaxed as well as the gutteral, growl, and scream is exactly what she was trying to portray of the duality of Pisces. We tend to act in opposite spectrums.
Yeah but there are a ton of singers out there that don't do it right and blow their voice out.
Tati does not get possessed. Tati possesses. She's clearly got the demon in her chest under perfect control...
0:44
Her: “ nice low note “
Me: “ oh, just you wait n see!”
Lmao I want to see her reaction to Iwrestledabearonce 😂😂
I'd love to see her react to Belphegor lol
🤣🤣🤣
Jinjer is the name of the band, the vocalist is called Tatiana Shmailyuk.
Шмайлюк
Thanks
Lilith is more like it
Stew Thomas Maybe that's where the "jinjer" comes from? (Lilith was ginger)
Booya!
"It's like she becomes evil in that moment" Incorrect, she becomes awesome
One thing all the reactors overlook is how the aggressive vocals are done during the most sensitive moments of the song. "Scale armor belies virgin innocence. One being brings life, the other runs for death" "Emeralds (personal armor) are ripped away" We don't deserve Tati and Jinjer.
*has 3 facial piercings*
“A lot of hardware on her face”
😂
To be fair that’s a lot in my opinion. I’ve had gauges but never facial piercings.
@@DemonGamingLLC its not your face so I wouldnt worry about it
@@daveduarte1806 how is he worrying about it
@@ktfjulien Totally obsessed with it practically.
Three? Do you count ear gauges as facial piercings? I only see the septum and tongue piercing
One of the things that annoys me about people and metal is that they just disregard the growl vocals as evil or angry. There is so much depth to many metal vocalists.
yeah man like for someone who's a vocal coach I thought they would know how to truly appreciate all aspects of the human voice
thank you! its just ignorance on their part.
To appreciate the growl it takes time and listening ... it is a taste that is refined, it is not an immediate thing.
It also requires a certain amount of empathy and depth of mind.
It's rough too, because she's got a growl with tons of depth and range. She reminds me a lot of Mikael Akerfeldt in a really good way.
@@browncoat697 Yeah, I hear a very Akerfeldtian depth too
Tatiana is a top tier vocalist. You can't change my mind.
Angela Gossow is the pioneer of women growling. God, l love them. 😂
"I've never heard her before..."
Oh, this gonna be good. :)
You know it! 😄
@Sebastian why do you text like a robot
as soon as she said that I smiled lol
Her growls are beautiful , the best female growl in the game no competition
I can appreciate your opinion but for me she's one of the best.
Lauren Heart
@@stevenwilliams1805 Oh! I don't know that one. Thanks for the reply.
@@stevenwilliams1805 Oh yes I do. Once Human. Yes she's really good.
@@dougarnold7955 Lauren is one of the many loves of this fractured Heart.
my new favorite thing to do is watch people react to this song
“... and then shes a beautiful singer again...” Correction: She is always a beautiful singer. She may not fit your comfort zone of what a female singer should be, but arent we all “individuals”? She is SUPER talented, not possessed. If you climb out of your box, you can see that “MUSIC” has many avenues, not just yours
I totally agree. Well said. 👍🏼
Bruv its a joke that she made mr. or ms. sensitive
Perfectly said Bourdeaux
You took this way too personally, relax.
Thats just it, I don't take these things seriously,, just call balls and strikes. That offends folks who havent experienced riding a bike without a helmet as a child or slide down a metal slide or not requiring immediate validation through the internet. Kindness regards, Generation X
That ain't evil.. That's beauty unleashed.
That's right. I always wonder, who decided to ascribe that scream to evil? Same how they ascribed blackness to negativity, evil and darkness. I find a beauty in that.
Correct 😁👍
They're going to be at the top of the Metal food chain and it's not going to be very long.
They'll be there for a long time too
For some people that is the most apt description for the sound.
Jinjer live is amazing
Jinjer is the name of the band not her. She is Tatianna Shmyluk and they are from the Ukraine and she is self taught.
Jamie Burnette from Ukraine, no the, pls dont be a "Trump" on that :-)
Shmailyuk
@@johnswarrior I'm struggling hard to understand what you've just said.
@@MarkyPaligs What he was trying to say is that you don't put article "the" in front of a name of a country.
MrCorvusC I am from the United States. My wife is from the Philippines. It works sometimes, and sometimes not.
Jinjer has a one take version of "Judgment and Punishment" that really shows off her vocal abilities. Please, we need you to react to it! You're reaction to Pices is probably the best on the Internet.
"I'm ok, ok, I'm ok, I'm ok"
Narrator: "she was not ok"
I heard the Stanley Parable narrator.
paintedblack09 I hear Morgan Freeman
All I hear is Ron Howard.
Lepszy Niż Wczoraj same
arrested development
Watching non metal-heads react to Jinjer makes my life complete 😂😂
Right.
6:33...this is so disturbing to me! 😁
I love this Pisces reaction. Its one of my favs. It just knocked her over!
Watching a metalhead who think Angela Gusow can not be bested (like me) must be equality hilarious
@@simonz5905 Right. There's a lot of really good female screamers! I like Angela, she's great! 👍
🤘🤣😂🤣🤘
Anyone else impressed by how masculine her growl gets? It's very impressive.
As far as I can tell when the technique used is the safe technique (focused on air projection instead of vocal chords) then the growls are gonna sound masculine even if the singer is a woman. Alyssa's growls sound masculine too for example.
Some of of you just aren’t getting the fact that Tara doesn’t like this style of music, she’s still saying that she’s talented and that she’s got the skills to do what she does, not everybody has to like or agree with this type of music.
I love all of your videos Tara!
Right.
...and that's what was so fun about this reaction too...👍
My girlfriend sounds like this when I forget to put the toilet seat down.
😄😜😁
She is right. Ya are a disgusting one
My mom 😂
@@SGTSnakeUSMC So ur dating ur own mum? Ur sick dude....
What did you find farting grandmother for?
"nice low notes" oh hun, you don't even know yet.
I said the SAME exact thing
for me personally , lower doesn't equal better, probably why I never got into death metal too much, HOWEVER "wills dissolve-the heavens are not on fire" has really gotten me into it , possibly because they have a bit of variety instead of that constant low growl
She doesn't take her growls really low in Pisces. 4 minutes into Who Is Gonna Be The One is a whole other kind of growling ua-cam.com/video/U6rv5qi8-8s/v-deo.html
In which song does she reach lower notes without growl/fry?
@@YisneySoto That's a good question, because it is definitely a different kind of "low." I haven't really paid attention to that, I suspect Bad Water live in Paris would be the lowest she's done clean, at least in a video with very good sound. I'll keep an eye out though and drop an update if I find anything exceptional.
Pick me girls and pop cover coaches could never really understand the amazement in such a vocally ranged FEMALE . It’s not Devil stuff or evil this/that, having that much control over your voice is something so sought after and even problematic for most artists today 😌 she’s a god in vocals
Tatiana gives me full body chills when she unleashes that beautiful vocal growl.
Tatiana has been singing like this for 10+ years with no discernible change In her voice. I've seen them live and it's all her. One of the best concerts I've ever seen. Met her and the band after the show. Really cool and friendly with fans. Top notch live musicians.
Which band is she with now?
@@jbdougy9290 She's still with Jinjer. I saw them live at a festival in june 2022.
@@erwinmulder1338 I saw that before your reply. Thank you for the clarification anyway. 🤝
both her clean and harsh vocals just get better and better actually
What I love most here is the dichotomy of the song. It is called Pisces. The Twin Fish. Bipolar indeed. Not only do the lyrics tell of the dual nature, but her performance does as well, siding from melodic to fry with such easy freedom.
Thank you, the two emotional natures of the fish in the water, up in the surface and down in the depths. It's very esoteric and wonderfully executed.
tbh its not fry, its like a in between of walrus and mid mixed with growl at some point
Jenna White jeez finally someone else picked up on that as well
Bewilderment of Eden To digress, the style of vocalization is irrelevant towards expressing the duality of the song and its lyrics. I used the term “fry” because, to those without vocal training, it is the term they will most likely recognize.
torcher78 lul. I am surprised at how many people didn’t, to be honest.
I believe the term your looking for when she sings with that deep demon tone is called guttural,
I love seeing people’s face when the screaming comes in and they did not expect it 😂😂
Tara's reaction is priceless. And yes, Tatiana's cleans-to-screams and back are incredible. So much talent and practice.
That’s what I’m saying!
@@Tarasimonstudios I highly encourage you to revisit Jinjer. Check out "Teacher Teacher" or "Who Is Gonna Be The One" (Live) in particular. Look deeper into the meaning of the songs that they are playing, and how they inform the performance. Pisces is all about the characteristics of the astrological sign, one of the biggest pieces being duality, so the clear switching back and forth is HIGHLY informed by the content of the lyrics.
I love the fact that you did this in the first place, but just tapping the tip of the iceberg when it comes to rock and metal singing, especially with female vocalists, is in my humble opinion, doing a disservice to a large percentage of the vocal music that is out there. I was browsing through your reaction video playlist and I noticed a theme revolving mostly around a lot of melodic and more traditionally clean sounding singers. Nothing wrong with that, at all, but I think that your followers could benefit from some additional vocal styles.
Some suggestions on the female vocalist side
Lzzy Hale of Halestorm
Taylor Momson of The Pretty Reckless
Joan Jett
Lita Ford
These are, as I said, just the tip of the iceberg.
Also,
Ronnie James Dio
Corey Taylor
Miles Kennedy
The HU
Have a great day.
@@Tarasimonstudios I encourage you to check out I Speak Astronomy by Jinjer as well
@@Tarasimonstudios Yep,most of us here understand perfectly what you said but some people are practising hard to be offended by opinions that differ from their own.
Agreed
"Then she's this beautiful singer again" lady I don't know what you're thinking this is all beautiful. I've never heard this kind of singing either but I find it all beautiful not just her soft voice
I thought that was so rude of her. Shes still beautiful her voice is amazing.
@@haileykelley4269 Rude?You really are practising being offended by opinions that differ from yours.
@Roby Dee Didn't you know that if you have a different opinion than other people you're being offensive and shouldn't make people cry. LOL I really hope the sarcasm came through texted.
its not really my style, but i cant help be seriously impressed at the talent to swing her range that far
All of it is beautiful. I love Jinjer. This is a really good band with a lot of good songs. For me as a Metalhead and identify with this band I wasn't offended by Tara's reaction but rather found it funny. Tara's reaction is totally candid and being a vocal specialist with no background in this style she was grasping for something to say. I love this reaction honestly...😊✌
Once you start listening to Jinjer you can't stop. Tatiana is unbelievable.
"Bipolar singing" - New terminology accepted :D
do you think tatianna comes to watch reactions to this video just for laughs?
she most certainly should! LOL
@@zap8oneway Jinjer reacts to people reacting to Jinjer
@@dakotamcree9310 Jinjer-ception! That would be great to watch
This song was prolly meant as the biggest troll job on the net! Lol I'm sure they watch all the reacts lol
@@parzivalplays7403
It was originally meant to showcase the new (at the time) drummer. But Tatianna had kinda overshadowed that a little bit.
Jinjer concert ticket: $50
Valet parking: $7.95
2:04 Tara's reaction: priceless
I wanna know where you get parking for 8 bucks
@@corywinn1637 in South Florida bruh
Dave - top call that
Jinjer concert ticket? $50
Valet parking? $7.95
Tara’s reaction? Priceless
Hotel? Trivago
Jinjer 50$ ?! Just daw then last Sunday for 28€ + Amorphis/Soilwork/Nailed yo Obscurity
Passion has many voices, but in it's purest form, it burns some. I cherish her voice. And her ability to control it to it's fullest extent. One cannot truly appreciate the light without knowing what's in the dark.
No warnings given with this son, it is just too fun to watch people see it for the first time.
Tatiana is an amazingly talented vocalist. Your reaction was priceless. I love this song, but understand that this style isn't for everyone. You are absolutely right in that there is a right and wrong way to do this type of a vocal. Thanks for checking it out!
Couldn't agree more. Jinjer are one the hardest working bands in metal too. They did almost 100 shows last year alone.
Are they being appreciated by the band community? As in, are people recognizing them and their talent? Just curious cause so many times I get annoyed when a group I follow don't get the recognition they deserve from the wider fans of the same genre.
@@Adam-oe4te They are. They kinda burst onto the scene and have been getting a ton of attention. They've also been touring with some of the biggest names in the metal scene.
It'd be so cool if she reviewed Devin Townsend's "Kingdom" because it's a similar style, but he's able to do it without it "costing" something :-)
Muttley's Stuff yeah, though ~240 actually
Love it when non-metal people have the "shock and awe" upon hearing Jinjer for the 1st time. Thanks for not watching the video beforehand. Better to see a genuine reaction. 🤘
not shocked and not awed. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@@howlingmine Agreed. I'm sorry fans, but all these acts are the same.
@@howlingmine just hopelessly jaded.
@@rickfromthecape3135 Absolutely not the same. You obviously know little of the genre.
I'm a metal guy and I listen to heavy stuff and I was in awe when I heard pisces.
She's Ukranian thats probably why she pronounces some words cuter than americans do XDDDDD
East slavic accent is not pretty at all, so I guess, she, as many other ukrainians, tries to nail pronunciation as best as possible. I wish I could speak with a proper british accent, but I still can't remove my native accent, lol.
@@MrDarthImperius yeah well i think slavic accents r cool :P
nah in this song the way she some of the words are accented like "love" is really cute to me so you are not alone
Have you ever heard any Ukrainian speakers yet? Lol 😆😆. Ukrainian sounds a bit similar to Russian. And Russian by any means is not cute at all.
@@justrandomthings709 ukranian is a bit softer, i guess. but anyway, slavic languages are rough, that is obvious
im not ok... i am in love.
Her reaction seems like she's watching a family series that turned into a gruesome murder real quick.
Or The Red Wedding!
once were warriors when they learn it's not a romcom.
As a person who listens to death metal, it’s funny to me that people are scared by death growls, because the vocals sound awesome and beautiful to me. 😆 I’m just imagining if she reacted to cannibal corpse 😂
Well I have a really hard time understanding why Death metal apparently sounds soothing. I guess it's just personal preference. We just all have different opinions.
Liebach it’s basically like any aggression or frustration gets taken out when I listen to it, so it leaves me feeling happier if that makes sense
@@chocolatepudding1241 I totally get that, and I guess I worded it incorrectly. But I could never see myself in a position to sit back and enjoy it like I enjoy a capella arrangements like voctave.
What do you listen to if you're happy and content?
Liebach I listen to it when I’m happy too lol. I also listen to classical, rock, indie, and a little pop
Or Cattle Decapitation LOL
Not sure why people always come up with this, “she is out of her mind” “demonic voice” like people always get disgusted or shocked by death metal, hardcore, she is a girl because she sings like a “girl” how can an amazing power voice like that will disturb someone, every freaking singer now a days sounds the same the all can do se up and down voice, this is sooo powerful, it just fills you up with energy such an unique way to sing, sick of people reacting bad when it comes to this type of music. Go listen to Shakira or Adele 💁♀️
She said nice low notes 10 seconds in and I couldn't stop laughing.
" Not in her right mind in parts of the song " Seriously? My eyes cannot roll harder than they just did..
Wow you’re so edgy
I agree. Comes of pretty elitist.
Simmer down, don’t get offended people don’t like everything you like.
I can't count how many times I rolled my eyes😂
"It's like she's possessed"
🙄
"She's back to being a girl again"
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I'm very impressed by the fact that despite the fact that it's not really your cup of tea, you have an incredibly good grasp of how difficult of a technique it is and that you took the time to explain it. Loved watching it, keep up the fantastic work!
As many has said before, Nightwish - Ghost Love Score from Wacken 2013 is also quite an experience but definitely not as extreme.
And in that vein, we need to use our collective UA-cam power to get Tatiana/Dimash together in a disney/metal sing along and watch Tara (and our) head's explode.
It's never been difficult for me. One day during practice with one of the bands I was in over a decade ago it just came out. All the pent up hurt, aggression, past traumas made it's way to the surface. I never taught myself or learned how to do it from someone else. That may be rare, idk ... With this band it looks to me as there is no struggle for her either.
One of the most detailed, professional and throughout reactions on this viral from all over the UA-cam. Not disappointed in one of my most trusted music observers.
Thanks, Tara! ^^
P.S. Oh, and nice facial reactions btw! :P
Your reactions to her rasps are hilarious. I may have hurt myself laughing. That was great fun!
The growl is not demonic or evil. In progressive metal, it denotes a change in emotion or the darkness within someone warring with their light half; the duality that lies within us all, if you will. It's meant to sound disturbing because not unlike fire alarms or sirens, it's a sonic cry for help and/or understanding.
Yes, the growl represents the dark element of duality. Light and darnkness, good and evil. Of course the growl represents negativity, anger/evil, in contrast to the cleaner vocals.
That was put beautifully, alot of people find it hard to understand this
Such a beautiful comment and so true.
Yes!
It’s called Grunting
Nightwish - Ghost love Score live at Wacken 2013. No where near this extream but would be a great reaction I think
Second to this! It's intense at times, but never demonic sounding like this. I actually love Jinjer but Nightwish is a nice happy medium. Please react to some Nightwish!
yes yes yes
I want delain reaction
Yes please!!! There is no screaming in this Tara!
Absolutely. Floor Jansen is amazing in everything she does, and that's a great showcase of her abilities.
Omg! That was the cutest reaction ever! Having seen Tati sing live, I can confirm that's she IS that good! Sweet to demonic in perfect transition! Loved your reaction! Made my night 😂😂
There is a warning, it's when they switch to the electric guitar.
The guitars electric throughout the whole song my guy :/
@@GlockGrippa what he means is when the guitar switches to distortion ...thats the warning, and he is correct
Sarge0341 Yeah I know, but what I meant was the clean sound still technically comes from an electric guitar and it’s electric counterparts...
This lady sounds like my mom trying to listen to metal
1:35 that's everyone's reaction. I'm gonna speak for every metalhead, Tatiana (that's her name) is Super talented. We haven't seen a female singer who can growl like that since Angela Gossow quitted from Arch Enemy. She's really talented. She's basically a monster.
The best part of this is that she can perform live as good as in the studio.
Have you never heard of The Agonist? Alyssa White-Gluz. Arch Enemies new vocalist as of like 8 years ago. Alyssa is amazing.
@@KICKBIDENOUTOFOFFICE alissa is better in mixing good growling technique with super nice and dinamic clean vocals(something arch enemy rarely lets her do).Angela had super evil sounding growls and screams(fit the arch enemy feel better than alissas growls). Tatiana surpassed both,and her technique is still getting better with every album. Also arch enemy without women growling would sound like average melodeath band,while Jinjer instrumentaly is still insanely original,and songwriting is not straight forward like in a most of metal,everithing is in place even tho lot of their songs have some unexpected or unusual elements. cant get Perennial out of my head since its release
And she's been doing those growls for a decade with a relentless tour performance schedule. Oh, and she can take her growls way lower than that too (4 minutes into Who Is Gonna Be The One, for example).
I agree with you. And in my opinion Gossow is a way better growler than Alyssa. Also I liked this girl's style but her live performance remains to be seen. But it's cool as in studio vocals.
Fedora wearer.
To me she is representing her song feelings in the change up, she is beautiful in both ways.
Her scream reveals a lot about the song on an emotional scale
Thats true.. and I appreciate that perspective!!
“She’s a little woman, she’s not even butch”. Cracked me up
A bit sexist for me but okay
@@hanahmichele6566 The, "Now she's a girl again" annoyed me a bit.
Pumpkin V Get over it...
@@TheNerdess I think "Now she's a girl again is referring to the fact you very rarely see a woman sing like this. She goes from soft singing to growling. Her remarks basically say anyone who is bigger or butch is unattractive. Her opinion tho.
Pumpkin V agreed but it annoyed me a lot. So judgmental and sexist. She’s very narrow-minded
Just so you know, Jinjer is the band, not the girl.
Dat' Bassist tho...
@@TN_Travesty The whole band is pretty sick, the shock of Tatianna's voice tends to make people miss it first few listens. Pay attention to the drummer, he's not just wrecking the set but his ability to add and fill is incredible.
@@rileyrat13 The whole band is tight. Not my cup of tea, but the talent is undeniable.
Tatiana Shmaylyuk
thanks , i was wondering about that
Oh my God. Your reaction was so great. I mean, I was shocked as well, and I would have thought I was listening to 2 different people if I hadn't seen the video. She's amazing. But your reaction was so hilarious I couldn't focus on the song, because I was rolling. 🤣 I legitimately rewatched your reaction a few times and I've shown several people. Lol Typically, I'm watching for your coaching and instruction, but I honestly can't remember anything you said after the reaction. This is my favorite.
😂🤣😂
Me too!
I am a huge fan of Jinjer and I love this reaction. What a great way to explain the vocal specifics behind the growl!!!
Your reaction to Tatiana screaming the first time was priceless, have to give a like just for that.
Tatiana is a great singer. Now the next one is the vocal beast Floor Jansen of Nightwish. Ghost Love Score live Wacken.
Yes, not nearly as scary. The only thing intimidating about our sweet Valkyrie Queen is she's a raven haired 6 foot tall Danish Woman who sings with a metal version of the cast of the Hobbit ;-)
@@rhettkennedy3507 Floor is Dutch. Not Danish.
The dutch are the only people regularly breeding girls over 2m tall ^^
@@ioanniskostoulas4448 Humblest apologies. I have a condition that mixes up any nationality that starts with a "D". ;-)
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer I think it's really a matter of taste. Tarja is like a finely honed sword. Floor is like a Swiss Army Knife. Tarja has the goods on Floor for what she does (Opera), but Floor can sing Opera pretty darn well (even though she said it's not something she studied as much in depth) and she can do rock and metal equally well.
That sounds of being evil is kinda the goal. The fact that she brings that feeling of evil and intense power shows how effective the technique is
Tatiana is an incredible talent and an incredible singer..The band is incredibly tight
Jinjer = The Group's name
Exactly!!! The singer is Tatiana ;-)
@Sebastian Glad I didn't say anything. Some death metal fans get upset if you call it anything but growling. That's what I know it as.
does it really matter what people call it
@@timpecover8600 To some people, yes. It's just like anything else, some people want you to call it what it actually is, not what everyone else is calling it.
@@timpecover8600 Yes, that's why we have words for things. Do you drive a car or a wheelie-thing? We have words to describe what we experience and what's around us.
“This is so disturbing to me!“
Does this lady own a television??
I react the way she does when i am forced to listen to a Top 40 song. I seriously would rather be deaf if i had only pop music.
@@ChuckBeefOG But honey... where are my paaaaaaaants?! *laugh track* Come on, man. You know that everything is awesome...
@@ChuckBeefOG geezuz... top 40... i smashed that radio at work because of all that repetitive junk they feed society.
Pulled the car to the front door, jammed a Slayer CD in the disc changer and fullblasted that thing until it was time to fo home. At that point in time, Jinjer hadn't formed yet.
@@ChuckBeefOG Right.
Yeah its disturbing when you are not a metalhead
She abnormal in a Beautiful way. I learned how too appreciate that approach of singing. The most impressive is how easily and quickly transition her voice live in key and dancing all over the stage. Also her band is one of the tightest in the game.
My favourite part of the video is at 1:34 😂 i love your reaction ! And i love the fact that you never watch videos on beforehand, your reaction is pure every time.
Both the song and your explanation how the singer does it, fills me with emotions.
Kudos to whoever got her to watch this. Priceless.
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score live at Wacken
Even the poet and the pendulum live with Floor
i concur
Even She Is My Sin- Live from Wacken as well!
It’s so cool watch the people’s reactions listening to Nightwish
I've been requesting this for weeks.
Having a pretty good experience with growling, we can see that her throat stays relaxed the whole time when she has that possessed voice. Back in my early days of growling i could get sore in a matter of second. I realised it surely wasnt the right way to do it. Some of my favourite bands were talking just fine in between songs.
When I learned it properly I could go a long time ''screaming'' without even bruising my voice. To finish I would advise to anyone who'd love to learn to growl, If it feels tight in your throat you are doing something wrong with it.
And this is why it's fun to watch the watcher.
Hahahaha! The Jinjer army strikes again! Great reaction. I can watch these all day. The song is great, the band is great. All hail the Queen!
"I'm here to review her vocals..."
"WOAH! That's alot of hard ware on her face..."
😂🤣😂
I've watched a lot of your reactions and they are always very informative. I'm definitely a fan of your channel. One of these days I'll take the dive and start working on singing again...
I know the extreme vocals aren't your thing, but I do like that you still give respect where it's due. I think this reaction was my first exposure to Jinjer and at first I was a bit not sure what to do with them as I was never into growls and screaming in vocals. But I love her voice and the band is just awesome (not to mention just really cool down to earth people in general). But after seeing your reaction and many other vocal coaches/musicians react to Jinjer, I've learn to really appreciate the skill and talent it takes to do what she does. She is crazy talented. I've fallen complexly in love with this band (more like I'm obsessed now ). They are my favorite band and I don't listen to metal typically. I didn't comment back at the time I watched this as I'm typically quiet online.
I know the growling and screams aren't your thing, but I'm interested in hearing your take on some of their other music and Tatiana's vocals showcased in some other songs. I love this song, but compared to their other songs, it doesn't showcase her full range as much. She is self taught (some brief formal training) and she taught herself how to growl/scream over a 4 year period of time (it's her own technique - she says she can't explain it very well - all her attempts at learning the normal ways didn't work for her). They have been touring for 10 years now and they had 152 shows in one year once. So whatever her technique is, it seems to barely affect her clean vocals. It's pretty darn amazing how fast she can switch between clean and extreme vocals.
The whole band is extremely talented and they draw on many different genres (jazz, reggae, nu metal, progressive rock/metal, etc.). They have some songs that don't have as much extreme vocals; Bad Water (official live video) is a cool bluesy groove rock song (no extreme vocals) has a bit of Alice in Chains vibe to it, Prologue and Beggar's Dance (intro and outro to their King of Everything LP - just audio videos available - no extreme vocals), I speak Astronomy (official video) showcases her range really well and is definitely a different vibe than this one. It has two shorter sections of extreme vocals but changes from fast to slow (very dynamic song). Perennial (Live at Wacken) is awesome - great example of her switching between the vocals. It has the growls but she also has some amazing soaring vocals in that one as well. Teacher, Teacher is awesome - another very different song... a bit rapish/hip hop vibe at the start. Really cool. Also, they have a One Take Vocal of their song Judgement (&Punishment) - great video to see her technique up close and that switches up a lot.
SHE IS SUPER TALENTED!!!Tati has gone through so much to get to us, and I STILL get goosebumps when I listen to this song! It just blows my arce away!
You know what would be more up your alley? Nightwish, all three of their singers are amazing female vocalists. "Phantom of the Opera" with Tarja Turunen, "Ghost Love Score" with Floor Jansen, and "The poet and the Pendulum" with Anette Olzon. You'll love those three.
Floor! "Ghost Love Score" Awesome voice and the way she smiles at the audience makes me melt. She's my favorite Operatic Rock Valkyrie ;-)
dont forget marco....
Big yes!
I'm not sure about that. I always loved Tarja (and stopped loving Nightwish when she left), but I still honestly think all the singers are more of average talent.
I was going to say the same thing!
The notice is actually quite clear, it’s when the guitar distortion comes in. Even you yourself started to lean back and cringe a bit because you subconsciously felt it coming XD.
Tucker Drums Right?? I was about to comment about this.
However, when she was about to feel it, the scream already reached her in supernatural speed.
We don’t WANT you to prepare for it. The fun is watching you see/hear it for the first time. 😱
Hi Tara,
Wonderful reaction/review!
I am glad that no one forewarned you, as your reaction is raw and pure.
It is probably the same reaction I had watching this first time round.