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  • The 4-door lift back was an early departure from the traditional 3-box design, and arguably the ancestor to the modern CUV. Check out what we thought of these models back when they were new.
    Show 301 | Original Airdate 09-19-1983
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  • @thetechlibrarian
    @thetechlibrarian Рік тому +131

    Dude was looking real zesty chewing that gumball

  • @jbm0866
    @jbm0866 Рік тому +44

    Anyone else laugh at the Phoenix's braking being described as "generally straight" as its shown on screen nearly completely sideways after a panic stop test?😂😂 I love watching these things as a reminder of how far car engineering has come. These days even the slightest nose dive or tail wag on emergency stop tests are considered concerning..not to mention the door handle dragging body lean most all cars had back then...wow.

    • @retrocompaq5212
      @retrocompaq5212 7 місяців тому

      now cars are fucking garbage that are always broken and its 200 times more maintenance costly than back then

  • @adstix
    @adstix Рік тому +53

    The unique selling point of this channel is longevity!
    Many of the biggest auto youtubers today were either unborn or just out of their diapers when Motorweek started several decades ago!
    For this reason, I think Motorweek should leverage more on that heritage with a change of youtube name -
    "Motorweek since 1981"

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +71

    That is one Phoenix that will certainly not be rising from the ashes. 😂

    • @andydhillon1977
      @andydhillon1977 Рік тому +3

      Lol!!! I don't even remember that car!

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +2

      @@andydhillon1977 Please accept my apologies for the nightmare.

    • @PhilMante
      @PhilMante Рік тому +3

      My hometown, there's a neighborhood where a '77 Phoenix still rolls around.

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +3

      @@PhilMante Yes, that would be the earlier RWD Phoenix built on the Nova platform.

    • @PhilMante
      @PhilMante Рік тому +2

      @@rightlanehog3151 Those Novas took their time to sail off into space. They're one of the last ultra retro V8 muscle cars that are still affordable. If you have about 5K you might get a 4-door survivor.

  • @darylmark
    @darylmark Рік тому +55

    Ahh, I remember those days watching Motorweek on PBS. This was my college freshman year, and it was the closest to "cable" a broke young man had!

  • @advilshenk
    @advilshenk Рік тому +68

    I couldnt imagine having a 88 hp nissan datsun stanza fully loaded with 5 adults ac on going up hill or trying to pass a car lol

    • @tedunguent156
      @tedunguent156 Рік тому +7

      I had a 2001 Nissan Altima SE (Stanza) with the 2.4L, 155 HP, 4 speed Automatic and with the A/C blowing it would bog down in traffic. Get the 5-speed manual, no problem. At the time I tried to find one but they were all sold out so I bought the automatic.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 Рік тому +6

      Imagine on a Colorado high mountain pass with a full load.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 Рік тому +4

      I did as a kid. My Mom bought one for us and we drove in Apalachicola for years in it! It was so big

    • @CarringtonHollister
      @CarringtonHollister Рік тому +2

      That Stanza (OG Altima) is gutless af

    • @jasona8964
      @jasona8964 Рік тому

      ​@@oldtwinsna8347imagine being on the Moon with no gas stations! Lol

  • @MonkyPocks01
    @MonkyPocks01 Рік тому +35

    3:00 That Stanza door chime brought back a flood of memories. My mom had a 1983 Sentra that she bought brand new and had for 15 years. That door chime is the sound of my childhood. 😂

    • @justinfincher2385
      @justinfincher2385 11 місяців тому +3

      Right? I had an 82 Datsun 310GX and that immediately took me back to shifting through the gears learning how to drive a stick

    • @GeeEm1313
      @GeeEm1313 8 місяців тому +3

      My grandma's (Datsun Nissan) Maxima had that as well. I thought only the Maxima had it!

    • @gofiveggggg
      @gofiveggggg 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@GeeEm1313
      The First Generation Mazima has the talking voice.

    • @gofiveggggg
      @gofiveggggg 8 місяців тому +1

      Love the tinkle sound warning chime..
      So polite

    • @landonbenford8369
      @landonbenford8369 4 місяці тому +1

      The chime on the 1989 Accord was Very similar!!

  • @hothatchpa
    @hothatchpa Рік тому +63

    Rare to even see a Phoenix mentioned. This was great to revisit these cares that were everywhere when I was growing up. The occasional Camry or 626 are the only ones you see on occasion anymore around here.

    • @modelmanjohn
      @modelmanjohn Рік тому +4

      We had the Citation version as a kid. I didn't think it was so bad.

    • @Stressless2023
      @Stressless2023 Рік тому +1

      @@modelmanjohn Yeah my grandma had the Chevy Citation version when I was a kid, I think an 82. It seemed ok. Hers was black which I've never seen another one painted that color.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife Рік тому +11

      The X-Cars really weren't bad at all once GM got the bugs worked out. But you never get a second chance to make a good first impression. GM used basically the same platform and engineering for their A-body cars (Olds Ciera, Buick Century, Chevy Celebrity, Pontiac 6000) that sold extremely well for many years and are generally considered to be very reliable -- you still see many of them on the road today.

    • @civlyzed
      @civlyzed Рік тому +3

      @@Stressless2023 Either you got lucky or my dad got a lemon :D our 1983 Citation had lots of problems within the first 2 years. Clutch, front axle, suspension and some other issues, but it was paid for so it became my first hand me down car. Fortunately it was totaled in a 1989 crash and I bought a used Cavalier. Ahh, memories...

    • @Stressless2023
      @Stressless2023 Рік тому +4

      @@civlyzed I've heard of them being hit or miss. My grandma's 83 was fine, never left her or us stranded, but she only kept it about 4 years. She also traded it in for a new Cavalier lol.

  • @teresapflaumer5717
    @teresapflaumer5717 Рік тому +46

    Ah, the MotorWeek Players are fantastic once again! The jawbreaker test was completely unexpected!

    • @GeeEm1313
      @GeeEm1313 8 місяців тому

      We should try that with our cars haha

  • @dkt1976dt
    @dkt1976dt Рік тому +16

    I was 7 years old when all of these cars roamed America's roads and freeways, i remember seeing them all. Its hard to believe it was 40 years ago, the Family Car has gone through alot of changes since then.

  • @radsk8rbigollies594
    @radsk8rbigollies594 7 місяців тому +3

    I love the stereo with the equalizer in the Mazda, looks so high tech for the time.

  • @chrisnagel2708
    @chrisnagel2708 Рік тому +14

    Would never have guessed back in 83 that the Camry would become the world class car that it has!

    • @boggy7665
      @boggy7665 11 місяців тому

      Still with pogo-stick lousy suspension. Watching crash compilations, it's often a Camry that goes out of control & runs off the road, after an emergency maneuver on a straight, dry road.

    • @tyronepowell147
      @tyronepowell147 10 місяців тому +8

      You mean Cam-Ray!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chrisnagel2708
      @chrisnagel2708 10 місяців тому +2

      @@tyronepowell147 yes that's definitely how John Davis says it! 🤣

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 8 місяців тому +3

      If by world class, you mean extremely boring, correct.

  • @nandernugget
    @nandernugget Рік тому +87

    That generation of 626 was my mothers first car, I wasn’t around to see it but fortunately she got the next generation and kept it well until I was old enough to appreciate it. Today I’m a huge Mazda enthusiast because of it (and my dads 83 RX-7 helped too)

    • @benjaminschmied7998
      @benjaminschmied7998 Рік тому +6

      My parents had this gen as a coupe. They kept it till 2000 I think. So many childhood memories. 😊

    • @thecustardguys
      @thecustardguys Рік тому +7

      My dad's Mazda 6 has 300,000 miles on it

    • @Demun1649
      @Demun1649 Рік тому

      @@thecustardguys You have been allowed to use the permanent marker again? Don't write on real cars. Mazda, who are only vehicles, not cars, don't matter.

    • @thecustardguys
      @thecustardguys Рік тому +5

      @@Demun1649 you okay bruh?

    • @averyparticularsetofskills
      @averyparticularsetofskills Рік тому +3

      ​@@Demun1649
      Okay ..... Deep Breath... now, u wanna try that again?

  • @joebehrdenver
    @joebehrdenver Рік тому +5

    "Cam-ray" ;) Seriously a great blast from the past. Would be nice if 2023 offered options like these.

  • @kcindc5539
    @kcindc5539 Рік тому +36

    Instead of an insipid beep or droning buzzer, the 626 plays an actual melody when you leave the door open and the keys in the ignition. I hadn’t noticed this when I saw this original broadcast back in ‘83.

    • @Thegonagle
      @Thegonagle Рік тому +1

      I liked any cars that used bell chimes, with solenoids that struck a set of actual bells. I recall several makes using various bell chimes, but Subaru sticks out in my mind because I once owned one that had them.

  • @devinbiz
    @devinbiz Рік тому +54

    Love these old comparisons, hope there are still more hiding in the archives

  • @krisjones74
    @krisjones74 Рік тому +9

    I bet my Grandfather saw this and went out and bought a 626. That car was totalled in an accident, and my grandpa and grandma pulled themselves out of the wreckage and went straight back to the Mazda dealership. The replacement car was passed around our family for decades.

  • @dadgarage7966
    @dadgarage7966 Рік тому +4

    Those Orientals sure do make good cars.

  • @angryshoebox
    @angryshoebox Рік тому +20

    We had an '83 Stanza, my mom's first new car in 10 years. I was 15 1/2 when we got it; it was one of the cars I learned to drive in. That "ding ding" alert took me back.

    • @Aforementioned
      @Aforementioned Рік тому +1

      My grandparents had an '82 with the same uh, bordello red interior as MW's tester. The chime takes me back, too. ;)

    • @05gtdriver
      @05gtdriver Рік тому

      I bought a new Nissan Hard Body truck in 1992, and it, too, had that same chime! 😊

    • @adamr4198
      @adamr4198 Рік тому

      My parents had a 84 Stanza HB that looked identical. It last until 1999 and ended up being my first car. Lots of memories riding in the backseat and a year of rowing my own gears in the driver’s seat.

  • @Ben-Rogue
    @Ben-Rogue Рік тому +5

    The coupe version of this era 626 is such a classy car. There's one that I've seen around my town a couple of times, and I just can't look away when I see it.

  • @darrentoronto73
    @darrentoronto73 Рік тому +3

    Oye. 3 Orientals. Doesn't sound PC 2023. Grew up watching this show. Loved it.

  • @USNVA11
    @USNVA11 Рік тому +6

    My first new car purchase was a 1984 Mazda 626 two door coup with all the bells and whistles including digital instrumentation. It was a really great car other than it could have used a bit more power under the hood. For 1984, the styling looked pretty advanced.

  • @danielmonahan6195
    @danielmonahan6195 10 місяців тому +1

    That music is pure 80s gold. As is that ding ding sound coming from the Stanza.

  • @IndyF1FanMarquis
    @IndyF1FanMarquis Рік тому +17

    One thing that holds true from this comparison is that Mazda will always emphasize driving performance. I've owned two Mazda 6's and have never been disappointed by either of them. I'd be first in line if the rumored return of the 6 comes to be!

    • @Andyface79
      @Andyface79 Рік тому +6

      For sure. My Dad had a Mazda 3 and it was a blast to drive. My brother still has its, 18 years later and its still going strong.

    • @Thindoublechin
      @Thindoublechin Рік тому +6

      ​@@Andyface79 I drive a 2005 mazda 3 hatch to this day.

  • @atomsmash100
    @atomsmash100 Рік тому +7

    I initially was very surprised to see the Phoenix rate so well, but take away the quality and recall issues that plagued the first few years so badly and the X-cars were at their core a very capable design. Alas, the damage was done and the X-cars never recovered even when GM ironed out the issues.

    • @ce9345
      @ce9345 Рік тому

      That is true. Another reason the x-cars sales dropped off was of the A-body cars. Same wheelbase but in a larger body. I owned an 85 citation. No quality problems with mine.

  • @themanwithsauce
    @themanwithsauce Рік тому +3

    A few years ago I bought a 2017 Ford Focus ST, brand new. From the moment I pulled into work, people kept asking me why I didn't get something "nicer" which was a polite way of asking why I didn't get a pickup or a big sedan. I simply said it was big enough for me, and it has what I want. So it's funny looking back and seeing how 30+ years ago, cars that would make my FoST look big were still considered "family size" with 80hp and 3-speed autos.... I miss the lightweight and simple lines of the old cars but I do appreciate how far we've come, even if most people don't.

  • @newcarpathia9422
    @newcarpathia9422 Рік тому +8

    Brought a tear to my eye. That precise model of Camry was my first car. Mine was even the same color.

    • @burntcrumpets5616
      @burntcrumpets5616 Рік тому +1

      Oh dear lord!.......I'm so sorry.

    • @newcarpathia9422
      @newcarpathia9422 Рік тому +3

      @@burntcrumpets5616 I was a 16-year-old and entirely jazzed to have anything mobile. Was it a great car? Nope, but it took me places and that made it magical.

    • @burntcrumpets5616
      @burntcrumpets5616 Рік тому +1

      @@newcarpathia9422 but darling......there's also the bus. Travel in style I say!

    • @newcarpathia9422
      @newcarpathia9422 Рік тому +2

      @@burntcrumpets5616 The bus? Where I lived? Har! There was no bus. :)

    • @burntcrumpets5616
      @burntcrumpets5616 Рік тому +1

      @@newcarpathia9422 Train then? Forgive me but am I taking public transport for granted with me being European? In all seriousness, I was just messing with your nut before. I'm sure the early Camry's were a decent piece of kit back in the day being a well trusted model over on the States. Can't go wrong with most Japanese auto brands though the Camry wasn't an option here in Europe. Instead we had the other saloon/sedan model called the Avensis. Rather nonchalant but the cabbie's loved em! Again I apologize for my overly dry euro humour regarding your first automobile. I confess, I'm sure your Camry was a whole lot better than my first car which was a total embarrassment! May I ask what year did you take possession of your Camry? Just curious. Kind regards 😉

  • @tz612712
    @tz612712 Рік тому +15

    "Our contestants include three orientals..."
    Woweee, this uh....this was a different time wasn't it

    • @yellowhammer3
      @yellowhammer3 Рік тому

      Today they're all "Asians", Im sure future generations will be offended by that

    • @MWBenDavis
      @MWBenDavis Рік тому +9

      According to Merriam Webster, while an outdated term, it's not considered offensive when used to describe art, medicine, or objects...just when describing people

    • @Ntsej_Muag
      @Ntsej_Muag Рік тому +5

      I'm Asian and and I find that funny. 😂😂😂

    • @MrHeem94
      @MrHeem94 Рік тому +3

      Yes a different time. A better time.

    • @new2000car
      @new2000car Рік тому +4

      I can speak for John Davis at the time (no I can't, lol), but when he said it, it was meant to be witty and tongue-in-cheek. Also, since the Orientals in this review were great cars (for the time), it would be viewed (by anyone not woke-brainwashed) as a compliment to any and everything Oriental (whether it be people or country).

  • @suomenpresidentti
    @suomenpresidentti Рік тому +2

    Ahh.. The first Camry.
    I Had one back in 1990-1991.
    Great memories.
    Greetings From Finland!

  • @marshalmagooo3899
    @marshalmagooo3899 Рік тому +5

    The 1st uttering of the Cam-Ray

  • @loganlovescarsandmotorcycles
    @loganlovescarsandmotorcycles Рік тому +6

    I haven't ever seen these cars other than the Camray. Still see a few Camry on the road. It's a good car. Rust is the issue that killed the Camry my family had.

  • @wolfshanze5980
    @wolfshanze5980 Рік тому +2

    Not enough companies do the "Jawbreaker Test" for panel fit anymore... we need more of these tests in 2023.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 Рік тому +17

    I am old enough to remember this review, we have come a long long way. Incidentally, among other things, what they considered to be quiet we would today consider it extremely loud

  • @tedunguent156
    @tedunguent156 Рік тому +7

    In 1983 I bought my first new car. It was a Plymouth Colt GTS Hatchback (Mitsubishi, 1.6L 4 cyl., Super Shift which Plymouth called Twin Stick. It was a 4 speed manual with a second lever for a high-low differential). It would burn rubber in 1st, 2nd and, sometimes, 3rd in low range and get 47 MPG in high range at highway speeds. I don't remember the price but it was about $7000-$7500.

  • @donaldwilson2620
    @donaldwilson2620 Рік тому +12

    That generation Mazda 626 was a great generation. Good looking, reliable, and fun to drive.

    • @Flying_GC
      @Flying_GC Рік тому

      Yeah. My father had several of them, last one was an 87 GT Hatchback. Great car would love to find one these days

    • @djkenny1202
      @djkenny1202 Рік тому

      @@Flying_GC they were around 83-88? Why Several?

  • @ClassicTVMan1981X
    @ClassicTVMan1981X Рік тому +1

    September 19, 1983 -- same night Wheel of Fortune had first aired in primetime!

  • @NOXStellans
    @NOXStellans Рік тому +12

    'What I still think of as a "Family Sized" car: If we'd stick to Honda Civics* for diriving our kids around we would be able to afford send them to college (or your favorite trade school)-$30k today is less than $11k in 1983.

    • @billschlafly4107
      @billschlafly4107 Рік тому

      College isn't worth the price of admission unless the goal is a degree in science.

    • @carzak
      @carzak Рік тому

      The problem is Americans see small cars as a temporary embarrassment while they work towards barely being able to afford a big SUV or luxury car instead of saving for their future.

  • @AndresSalazarAutos
    @AndresSalazarAutos Рік тому +7

    I think the Mazda 626 got fuel injection in 1986 and also there was a turbo model with 120hp and it was a quick car.

    • @BeefyMon
      @BeefyMon Рік тому

      Yes, I had an 87 626 GT Turbo… it was wickedly quick for the time. Along with fuel injection the 86-87s also had a completely new interior/dash design, updated taillights and flush wide headlights.

  • @1985toyotacamry
    @1985toyotacamry Рік тому +49

    Here we go with that Cam-ray: the saga with the pronunciation til the 92 model.
    Edit: Mazda chime is familiar (is it a Australian built?)
    My first car is 1985 Toyota Camry sedan(automatic) it's pretty nice car but wow that brake test is long.
    OK I think he got it mixed up with the transmission on the mileage part

    • @JoshBrinson
      @JoshBrinson Рік тому

      Didn’t Hyundai use a similar chime in the early 2000’s?

    • @1985toyotacamry
      @1985toyotacamry Рік тому

      ​​​@@JoshBrinson I remember the USDM Hyundai one and that chime doesn't match the Mazda one. The Mazda just "sings" not the Hyundai one just "beeps". The only other car that does "sing" is Volkswagen
      Edit: I forgot the Mitsubishi Starion.

    • @hothatchpa
      @hothatchpa Рік тому +3

      LOL I love that someone pinned down the year when he corrected that!

    • @1985toyotacamry
      @1985toyotacamry Рік тому +4

      ​@@hothatchpa lol. Of course that pronunciation make me cringe. So he didn't correct it in 83 model the 84 model the 87 model the 88 model and corrected it in 92 model. Took him almost a decade to correct it.

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 Рік тому +2

      Lmao, wonder when the obsession for volt meters and oil pressure gauges started

  • @engineer_alv
    @engineer_alv Рік тому +1

    3:05 that chime takes me back to my childhood. My mom used to have a 1986 Subaru which sounded about the same.

  • @rossbynum7495
    @rossbynum7495 3 місяці тому

    The “ting-ting” of the door ajar alarm on the Nissan…that takes me back!

  • @rickymack2611
    @rickymack2611 Рік тому +2

    So the Camry is the only car on this list still around. It's come a long way

  • @HamsterWheelGaming
    @HamsterWheelGaming Рік тому +8

    2:34 bruh

  • @anibalbabilonia1867
    @anibalbabilonia1867 Рік тому +1

    Aaahhh John and the “Camray!”👌😂👍

  • @mrdorkomatic
    @mrdorkomatic Рік тому +2

    If I had the money, I'd love to get this group of cars together again after 40 years of abuse and see how they compare to their new selves. Would be hilarious and fun!

  • @vj5225
    @vj5225 Рік тому +2

    I find it a test of time when one car model in this episode is still seen currently running in the year the episode came out & still produced today. The Toyota Camry looks to me to have proven longevity.

  • @jeepthing98
    @jeepthing98 Рік тому +1

    I dont remember seeing this comparo episode during the retro marathons for some reason. Fun to watch what was considered a superlative 40 years ago.

  • @fabianherrera7391
    @fabianherrera7391 Рік тому +3

    Love the full episodes!!

  • @DanTheMailman330
    @DanTheMailman330 8 місяців тому

    My grandpa had a powder blue Stanza of that year. I nearly forgot that car until I heard the cheerful door ajar chime!

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife Рік тому +3

    I noticed the title card shifting around a little bit, and that made me realize that it was probably generated by the old trick of aiming a camera at the logo drawn on a piece of paper, inverting the video signal to make it white on black, and then luma-keying it on top of the video. No computer graphics involved!

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому

      Titles and credits swerved quite a bit even until the mid 80s!!!!!

    • @AaronSmart.online
      @AaronSmart.online Рік тому

      It looks like it was part of a filmed sequence, with the amount of noise and what could be gate weave

  • @scottschlossberg3137
    @scottschlossberg3137 Рік тому +3

    Love these multi car comparisons

  • @oldtwinsna8347
    @oldtwinsna8347 Рік тому +2

    @16:42 got enthusiastic at first hearing 5.7 second run for the Cam-ray then realized it was just for 40-55mph. Incredible how the current Cam-ray V6 could go from a dead start while this Cam-ray started at 40mph and yet the current V6 Cam-ray would still beat it to 60.

  • @elelegidosf9707
    @elelegidosf9707 8 місяців тому

    "The suspension kept out two biggest bags from _lying_ side by side". Wow - I had never heard an American use this word correctly. Well done, MotorWeek man.

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel Рік тому +2

    ❤❤❤❤ LOVE U MOTORWEEK ❤️👏👏👏... HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️

  • @adamfischer6768
    @adamfischer6768 Рік тому +3

    What were the 5 Motorweek hunks doing with their hands when they all got into the Pontiac Phoenix?

  • @dohc1067
    @dohc1067 Рік тому +1

    One of my neighbors had the Nissan Stanza and he had it for years. I never heard him complain. The 626 got the styling here. I love the jaw breaker 😅test.

  • @Hyvelez
    @Hyvelez Рік тому +1

    Grew up with two of these Mazda 626 models. Solid cars. My parents also had a 95 model later on as well.

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet Рік тому

    Excellent show 👏 my dad, who dealt in cars 🚗 for 28 years, would enjoy 😊

  • @AsteroidsDeluxe
    @AsteroidsDeluxe Рік тому +4

    626 was a hansome car and the Pontiac Phoenix was the best value. The 1983 Phoenix is a clone of the improved Citation II that addressed the reputation ruining record setting recalls of the original Citation.

  • @hussguy1990
    @hussguy1990 Рік тому

    More of the comparo videos! They are great, I watch them while doing the dishes.

  • @thetechlibrarian
    @thetechlibrarian Рік тому +3

    I always liked that old Nissan chime

  • @dannykreutzfeldt
    @dannykreutzfeldt 7 місяців тому

    That generation of 626 was a thing of beauty.

  • @Thegonagle
    @Thegonagle Рік тому +1

    I owned an '86 626 GT 5-door for a while. Although mine was a beater with a bunch of problems when I bought it, I definitely did not hate that car. It looked great and it was fun to drive (whenever it was running close enough to right).

  • @NOXStellans
    @NOXStellans Рік тому +5

    $10,000 + 40 Year = $30,000

  • @AndresSalazarAutos
    @AndresSalazarAutos Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see this generetion Mazda 626 in its Turbo/GT version, at the time it must have been the fastest of the bunch-

  • @Doobie1975
    @Doobie1975 Рік тому +2

    By 1983 the bugs that GM's X-body cars seemed to be worked out, I remember by the early 2000's the later versions of the X-body cars were still somewhat commonly seen on the road while the earlier models were nearing extinct.

    • @ce9345
      @ce9345 Рік тому

      The GM X-body cars were better than people gave them credit for. I had a 1985 chevy citation and drove it till 1994.

  • @brianruff1133
    @brianruff1133 Рік тому +1

    It says a lot about the state of the US car industry in 1983 that a Stanza can wow the reviewers.

  • @donaldwilson2620
    @donaldwilson2620 Рік тому +1

    That jawbreaker test @ 2:30 was funny.

  • @scottt172
    @scottt172 Рік тому +2

    I had a Mazda 626 in HS. It was a great car.

  • @unitedcity_mc4421
    @unitedcity_mc4421 10 місяців тому

    I didn’t expect an '83 Phoenix to appear, but okay. That car has character too.

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 Рік тому +6

    I've been thinking lately about John's continued mispronunciation of "Camry" as "Cam-Ray" back then, & am now wondering if Toyota told him to pronounce it like that just as Mitsubishi told the press to pronounce "Galant" "Ga-Lawn" for the first generation models.

    • @billschlafly4107
      @billschlafly4107 Рік тому +1

      I thought it was a typo on an early script and John simply locked in on Cam Ray forever after. But you are probably closer to the truth.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 Рік тому

      He probably dismissed any comments from staff early on with these things .This includes oil and voltmeter gauges that he kept harping about.

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng Рік тому +2

      About 1992-93 he switched to the acceptable camry instead of camray.

    • @archfapper211
      @archfapper211 3 місяці тому

      John just says certain words h'weird

  • @Wiencourager
    @Wiencourager Рік тому +1

    They didn’t test the AMC concord wagon, which was really a hatchback. But since it was basically a warmed over 1971 amc hornet, maybe it’s just as well.

  • @palebeachbum
    @palebeachbum Рік тому +7

    My heart just sank to my stomach realizing these cars are 40yrs old. FORTY years old! Man, I feel old. I was only a kid in the 80s, but I remember when these were on the road. Of the group, my choice is the Mazda 626. I really like the design and it seems the plushest inside, only bested in that regard by the Pontiac Phoenix. Camry would be at the bottom for me due to having the ugliest exterior design and poor driving dynamics.

  • @club1fan552
    @club1fan552 Рік тому +1

    Probably the best 626 ever made and looks stunning, especially from the front. Isn't it a hatch?

    • @cool.ebiaka
      @cool.ebiaka 5 місяців тому

      obviously it is, nevertheless the presenter likes to refer to it as a touring sedan.

  • @DugEphresh
    @DugEphresh 11 місяців тому

    Man I loved my Datsun B210, wish I could find another one today. I was able to find a one owner clean Toyota Cressida though. The 4 door Supra is what it was nicknamed because it had the same powerplant. Keep up the best auto show ever created MotorWeek! Love you guys

  • @petervitti9
    @petervitti9 Рік тому +1

    I had a new 1984 chevy citation for 2 years and had no problems at all.

    • @ce9345
      @ce9345 Рік тому

      I owned an 85 citation II. It had the one year only horizontal radio and hvac controls. My citation had no problems at all.

  • @markallen2984
    @markallen2984 8 місяців тому +1

    I miss simple M/T cars with graphic equalizers. Good times.

  • @crocglox7797
    @crocglox7797 Рік тому +1

    Remembering the ad jingle: "you can cross your legs in the back of a Nissan Stanza".
    I had some rude versions of that.

  • @jeremyb4493
    @jeremyb4493 2 місяці тому

    I had a charcoal grey 85 626 5 speed during/after high school. Had a burgundy interior and I drove it everywhere until I gave it to a younger brother at well over 400,000 miles.

  • @brz757
    @brz757 Рік тому

    It's amazing this guy went on to become the lead singer for the band Korn.

  • @dforrest4503
    @dforrest4503 5 місяців тому +1

    I wish Mazda still made a 5 door hatchback. I had a 2006 Mazda6 hatch and it was more practical and efficient than small SUVs, and handled much better.

  • @AngelHernandez-ls5wr
    @AngelHernandez-ls5wr Рік тому +2

    I love the early mid 80s cars...😍😊👍

  • @cblizz730
    @cblizz730 Рік тому

    That song in the beginning is really trippy.

  • @michaelcoffey7362
    @michaelcoffey7362 Рік тому +1

    Cool, I remember these cars 🥰

  • @90boiler
    @90boiler Рік тому

    That generation of 626, 929 was truly great

  • @mymomsaysimcool9650
    @mymomsaysimcool9650 2 місяці тому +1

    Those 626 could last many years and miles. My wife had a new 85 we kept for 250,000 miles.

  • @blue_lancer_es
    @blue_lancer_es Рік тому +1

    This vid is 40 years old. Damn!

    • @radudeATL
      @radudeATL 9 місяців тому

      I am 40 years old. Damn!

    • @blue_lancer_es
      @blue_lancer_es 9 місяців тому +1

      @@radudeATL I'm 45🥹

  • @JolliAllGenGamer
    @JolliAllGenGamer Рік тому +4

    Hi Toyota Camray, also I don’t think Oriental can’t really be used anymore these days.

  • @torres3800
    @torres3800 Рік тому +1

    The interior of all the imports were lightyears ahead the Phoenix. Those gages looked faded and used like Junk Yard replacements. 😂 (and im a GM guy). My favorite was the 626.

  • @simmersinner6675
    @simmersinner6675 Рік тому

    All these cars are beautiful

  • @schoolgirlshortdress
    @schoolgirlshortdress Рік тому

    Boy, do I miss these cars...

  • @McBeamer94
    @McBeamer94 11 місяців тому +1

    This is a nice comparison, with some cars we don't see anymore. Especially the Phoenix. But I noticed something about the Stanza: at the start, John said "along with the 3-speed automatic gearbox we didn't request", meaning it had an automatic transmission. The 33 mpg figure came with the automatic model but later, when the mileage points were given, John said that the car had a 5-speed manual. I guess it was an editing mistake.

  • @davidaubin3902
    @davidaubin3902 Рік тому +4

    I’d take the 626

  • @bruschmidt9943
    @bruschmidt9943 11 місяців тому

    That Nissan "Datsun" Stanza took me back to reality in 1983. ALL Nissan cars were known as "Datsuns" until 1984, the transitional year when every model wore both Datsun & Nissan badges on the rear. From 1985-present, they were known only as Nissan. The all new 1984 Datsun 300ZX 50th Anniversary Turbos sold for $29,995 plus tax, insurance & dealer fees. The same price as a new Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz. I know because my 300ZX is still in my garage with all the paperwork & 7,500 original miles. They were available on Dealer's lots starting July 11, 1983 & Dealers NEVER offered discounts!

  • @PaulEdgewatertheman
    @PaulEdgewatertheman Рік тому

    Love the downhill 0-60 track

  • @Trance88
    @Trance88 Рік тому

    That Mazda 626 is a pretty darn cool car. Crazy good breaks for not having ABS. The Pheonix's styling looks so much better than its Chevy counterpart, the Citation.

  • @CRAPO2011
    @CRAPO2011 Рік тому +1

    Still like those wheels on the mazda,thought they only came on the later turbo models

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 8 місяців тому +1

    So...40 years ago you guys weren't completely bonkers! Now it's all F-150s vs Rams. 😂🤟

  • @minnybiker4505
    @minnybiker4505 9 місяців тому

    I was a big fan of that Mazda 626 5 door hatch.

  • @KuchingKingVideoGamer
    @KuchingKingVideoGamer Рік тому

    My family used to own a Nissan Stanza and Mazda 626
    Really good cars