Iron Sight Placement Considerations
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Here are my thoughts on Iron sight placement on RMRd handguns.
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I'm of the same mind:
The RMR is now your primary sighting system. If there is ever a compromise to be made, the compromise can only be reasonably made in favor of the RMR. Rear sight goes in front. Sacrifice sight radius for less obstructions to the RMR. Do not use the irons to get your dot. Dot should just be there, and if not, you focus on the front sight and see the rear, bring that into alignment, and boom there's your dot. If front sight's absolute cowitness, you might not even need a rear sight, but that's another thing entirely (kind of). I agree with you, it's all secondary to the RMR
I think I'm finally going to go ahead and get my P-09 milled for the RMR, and I'm going to have the rear sight in front. I've agonized endlessly over it, but between your argument, my own thoughts, and the thoughts of Aaron from Sage Dynamics, I think it's the best choice for placement.
Saying you have less clutter putting the sight in front of the sight makes no sense. Either way you are seeing the same thing and it’s taking up the same space. Only bonus to having them in front is having the extra protection of your glass Incase you need to rack the slide with one hand off of something or protecting your glass from brass ejecting
@@starxlord9856 if you watched the video, you would know that there are other benefits other than protecting glass. In awkward positions iron sights in rear may occlude your view of the red dot. Also, for shooters new to the MRDS on pistol, they have a tendency to favor the iron sights first, and use the rear iron sights to track down the red dot, which is inefficient. Less of the rear iron sights is in view if mounted forward of the optic...so it makes perfect sense that there is less clutter to look past, and perhaps an easier transition for iron sight shooters. You are not seeing the same thing with the irons in back, because you see more of the irons.
Did you ever mill the p-09 and put sights in front? How did it work out if so ?
I'm having another dilemma, which is: Should I set my optic as far back on the slide as possible, or have it place more forward in the standard position?
I'm wondering if dot presentation or the overall "feel" of the draw will be affected by this consequent change in "fulcrum" position (think, the difference between someone standing in the center of a moving teeter-totter vs standing at the end of a moving teeter-totter--except in this case the wrist acts as the fulcrum)
Did you ever finish your milled p09 I have one also and about to send it milled I’m keeping my rear dovetail but have a idrs drop in my rmr for rear iron and have a fiber optic front lower 1/3 when I’m done front site upgrade guys with long firing pin…my favorite looking to getting a shadow line or shadow 2
All good considerations bro.
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Having shot both, sights forward and rearward of the RMR, neither has had any affect on my ability to shoot accurately. But my preference is rearward of the RMR.
What iron sight height do you use for irons forward?
Very good points, who in the hell press check that many times. I think it's the sound!!
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So you have both and I am actually thinking about doing one, the sights infront seem like they will be better even though I have not tried it! I've tried a few RMR dots w/ the iron sights behind and for me it seems to bug me a little when looking through the window (if that makes sense)! Honestly which way would you say is better for someone who has not used them much?
Probably irons forward to give you a less obstructed sight picture
I like my rear sight in front. I like the no obstruction view
good lookin out i have my irons mounted forward as well..was thinkin of going with the traditional setup of irons behind the optic..but i think ill stick with irons forward..
If you run irons forward will it work with a sariland ALS holsters?
Yes
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This is the way
My rear sight is in the front and to me looks great with an unobstructed view.
What sight heights do you use for front and rear?
@@williamwoodcock8487 standard suppressor height sights.
@@jessekaiman5182 I recently got my first irons forward gun and had standard suppressor height sights and they took up about 80% of the optic window, switched to the shortest sights I could by from Dawson, and they work perfectly.
@@williamwoodcock8487 weird, I got a little under 1/3rd cowitness with suppressor height. Depends who mills your slide I guess.
@@jessekaiman5182 yeah mine was milled specifically for a RMR and it was done by Cajun gunworks. So it sat super low in the slide, that along with no optics plate, it’s definitely the lowest sitting optic on all my handguns.
Am I the only person that doesn't buy press checking will do that to a round? It would do the complete opposite (if it didn't have a crimp on the bullet at all) after about a billion press checks. For that to happen the bullet would have to come in contact with something to push it into the case like the examples shown. I have only ever seen it on reloads with no crimps and a failure to extract. The bullet picked up by the bolt from the magazine is slammed into the case that was not ejected pushing the bullet back into the case. Some one please correct me if I'm wrong.....with example please.
You are correct sir! The bullet will set itself farther into the case when chambered multiple times. When I say multiple times I’m talking about 40+....A press check will not cause the ballet to seat farther in the case. Hitting the feed ramp multiple times will cause this. Having said that this is still a great video!!!!!
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I know this is an old video, but does anyone know if you can run irons forward on a VP slide? I don't see any machine shops advertising this configuration for the VP9.
It is an old video! I’m surprised there’s a recent comment. The answer is no, no matter what optic you have mounted on your VP9 there won’t be room for the rear sight.
I don't think press checking will cause bullet set back.
You're right it wouldn't. Not sure what this guy meant when he said it because the projectile wouldn't touch anything besides empty space inside the barrel for a normal press check. Rechambering causes setback, not press checks.
I need to get some tall sights for my Glock 17 MOS! I have mine in a PDW setup with an ENDOTACTICAL stock adapter but, I still would like irons just in case. I see no need for a press check on a Glock. Not that I get my panties in a wad if someone does it but, you can clearly see the case with the gun in battery👍
Any issues with the safariland RDO holsters with irons front
None on mine
Would iron sight forward fit in a Safariland 6360rds? Can anyone confirm this??
Yes
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